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Yeah, an ODI has 120 balls.He was bowling to ODI/Test batsmen playing with 120 balls to score runs.
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Yeah, an ODI has 120 balls.He was bowling to ODI/Test batsmen playing with 120 balls to score runs.
Great to know he will be trowing rockets at Babar unlike Imad who will be serving pies to his master in Babar.Their captain is Brian Masaba. Watch out for him because he'll be bowling to Babar in the next series.
After watching so many pak greats, I am not able to digest present pak team mentality or stats obsession with out caring for the results.it used to be indian style in 90s .it's ironic india came out of it but pak got dragged in to it.Even manjrekar mentioned it in his auto biography how imran made the team mentality as first thing in pak.But a 40 avg is ironically more then I expected from Bobby against quality bowlers.
BHis fans do bhangra because he scored 3 fifties in losing causes in Australia on pitches where Warner was scoring 150+ for fun and Australia had racked up 350+.
That is his career highlight. 3 fifties in losing causes on roads.
Explain that to Babar and Rizwan. Stop playing ODI cricket as openers in T20 cricket. They could have taken him down in those two qualifiers and final with only two fielders outside. What was stopping them?Yeah, an ODI has 120 balls.
And you went on to say I hate Imad for something which we both agree on, so why bring something else?Imad has an economy of 8.33 In the game but he realesed pressure so fair enough.
Did i not state this?
Gives you pleasure seeing Pakistan humiliated too? That’s not an impartial cricket team.I've never spent as much time on PP as the last couple of days. Gives me pleasure to see agenda driven people getting humiliated
This is ironic coming from an Indian fan. The whole world saw the great Kohli’s full desperation to break Tendulkar’s record in the World Cup and was denying singles and coercing other batsmen to help him get to the landmark.After watching so many pak greats, I am not able to digest present pak team mentality or stats obsession with out caring for the results.it used to be indian style in 90s .it's ironic india came out of it but pak got dragged in to it.
Mate I'm not even able to digest the cake that they eat but here we are.After watching so many pak greats, I am not able to digest present pak team mentality or stats obsession with out caring for the results.it used to be indian style in 90s .it's ironic india came out of it but pak got dragged in to it.Even manjrekar mentioned it in his auto biography how imran made the team mentality as first thing in pak.
Babar had the highest strike rate in PO overs in the league stage of PSL. I know that made you very upset but it is what it is.Explain that to Babar and Rizwan. Stop playing ODI cricket as openers in T20 cricket. They could have taken him down in those two qualifiers and final with only two fielders outside. What was stopping them?
HuM oUt Ho gAyE tOu TeAm Ka KyA hOgA?
It's a great read going through the threads to see the humiliation they have received but they don't learn. The same posters were having fantasies about the conversation Babar had with PCB and their sources and then they were woken up with the news of Babar being made the captain.I've never spent as much time on PP as the last couple of days. Gives me pleasure to see agenda driven people getting humiliated
I blame this on Babar Azam. He was always selfish to the core from day one.After watching so many pak greats, I am not able to digest present pak team mentality or stats obsession with out caring for the results.it used to be indian style in 90s .it's ironic india came out of it but pak got dragged in to it.Even manjrekar mentioned it in his auto biography how imran made the team mentality as first thing in pak.
What was Babar’s strike rate in the Karachi leg? How can you finish every game with an overall strike rate of 100-115?Babar had the highest strike rate in PO overs in the league stage of PSL. I know that made you very upset but it is what it is.
I don’t like Rizwan and he won’t be opening anymore. It will be Saim and Babar.
I don’t blame you guys though. What does a generation of Pakistani fans who grew up celebrating the likes of Afridi as match-winning batsmen know about batting.I blame this on Babar Azam. He was always selfish to the core from day one.
You can’t do it in every game. He is a human not a machine. If Imad could sleep his way through the entire PSL until the play-offs Babar is also allowed to failed every now and then.What was Babar’s strike rate in the Karachi leg? How can you finish every game with an overall strike rate of 100-115?
Babar can do what he does at number 3I don’t blame you guys though. What does a generation of Pakistani fans who grew up celebrating the likes of Afridi as match-winning batsmen know about batting.
You guys deserve Asif Ali, Haris, Sharjeel, Umar Akmal and Haider Ali. Any batsman who can bat will never be your cup of tea.
To be considered selfless by such fans, batsmen should score 20 runs in 7 balls and then throw their wickets away like idiots to show that they are playing for the team and not their stats.
No one can still say anything to him. His haters are just consuming in their own hate and impacting their own mental health with their never ending agenda.Babar can do what he does at number 3
NO ONE will say anything to him.
What was your cricketer of the year Imad Wasim's batting average and economy outside Karachi, where even Malik looked as deadly as Murali?What was Babar’s strike rate in the Karachi leg? How can you finish every game with an overall strike rate of 100-115?
If any person is playing for the team,team has to come first.otherwise he can play different games like chess,boxing etc.I firmly believes team should be the first and personal records should be the secondary . I will hate anyone playing for individual records and commentators singling out other players but not their own players playing for personal milestones.Winning and losing is a team responsibility not an individual obligation.
Tbf most of the batsmens mentioned there will struggle to score 20 off 7 balls. It's more close to a dot followed by a ugly swipe across the line for a 6 or a top edge six. Next ball dot and than out. In reality it's 6 off 4 balls most of the times.I don’t blame you guys though. What does a generation of Pakistani fans who grew up celebrating the likes of Afridi as match-winning batsmen know about batting.
You guys deserve Asif Ali, Haris, Sharjeel, Umar Akmal and Haider Ali. Any batsman who can bat will never be your cup of tea.
To be considered selfless by such fans, batsmen should score 20 runs in 7 balls and then throw their wickets away like idiots to show that they are playing for the team and not their stats.
The way he played in Karachi is the way he plays generally in international cricket. Even Khawaja Nafay pumped runs at Lahore with a 170 strike rate. Shadab was going at around 160 in Pindi. Salman Agha had a strike rate of 140ish for most parts of the tournament and he was batting at 3. Saud Shakeel was going at 160ish and a couple of failures brought him down to 140ishYou can’t do it in every game. He is a human not a machine. If Imad could sleep his way through the entire PSL until the play-offs Babar is also allowed to failed every now and then.
Everyone can. Everyone is. Why are their threads about Babar’s strike rates in world tournaments? If they can’t say anything?No one can still say anything to him. His haters are just consuming in their own hate and impacting their own mental health with their never ending agenda.
Well, he came good at the end. 4 motm performances in a row to lift the PSL. He’s done the talking and walking. No point trying to devalue his efforts now that he did what he had to win the PSL for his franchiseWhat was your cricketer of the year Imad Wasim's batting average and economy outside Karachi, where even Malik looked as deadly as Murali?
In the World Cup 2023,There’s people out there that don’t rate Sharjeel Khan but will call Imam ul Haq the next Saeed Anwar.
I’m just glad that I’m not as deluded as some of these posters.
This is ironic coming from an Indian fan. The whole world saw the great Kohli’s full desperation to break Tendulkar’s record in the World Cup and was denying singles and coercing other batsmen to help him get to the landmark.
I personally have no issues with batsmen chasing milestones. I think it is the right thing to do anyway. It is a matter of pride and achievement. Winning and losing is a team responsibility not an individual obligation.
He is your only Match winner, plain and simple, his X factor innings are more then enough irrespective of whatever format they were in.I want you to be consistent with your logic. It's got nothing to do with Usman. I didn't say I agree with you logic or your views on how to rate players and neither do I want to be rating some of the players you rate.
Answer the question instead of starting another topic. Why should fakhar be given another chance at opening?
I remember one game( Forgot which one) but after agha salman got run out, Babar kept giving strike to tail enders and they kept getting out.Babar Azam is the kind of guy that if you order a Turkish mix grill platter, he will put all the nice chops, kebob and the ribs in his plate and let the rest of his mates have the chicken wings and chicken cutlets.
Maxwell on one leg is a better white ball batsman than everyone in Pakistan, it’s 220m populationI remember one game( Forgot which one) but after agha salman got run out, Babar kept giving strike to tail enders and they kept getting out.
Now in contrast look what maxwell did? When maxwell and Cummings came out to bat, Maxwell was at 25 and Cummings at 7.
But the end of the innings maxwell was at 201 and Cummings at 12.
This is what you call a team player. He advised Cummings to just tuk tuk at the other end and survive, rest he'll manage.
Edit: Just saying even if maxwell didn't win the game, I'd still cite this. Its about teamwork
Imam is better than Sharjeel in two out of three formats. He is going to retire with more runs, caps and centuries than Sharjeel in international cricket and this fact is going to make a lot of people cry.There’s people out there that don’t rate Sharjeel Khan but will call Imam ul Haq the next Saeed Anwar.
I’m just glad that I’m not as deluded as some of these posters.
He’s a better ODI bowler than Imad too who averages 45Maxwell on one leg is a better white ball batsman than everyone in Pakistan, it’s 220m population
RizwanI blame this on Babar Azam. He was always selfish to the core from day one.
Rizwan as an additional solid layerI blame this on Babar Azam. He was always selfish to the core from day one.
I'm aware.Maxwell on one leg is a better white ball batsman than everyone in Pakistan, it’s 220m population
Rizwan wants to be Babar. Have you seen the movie “the talented mr Ripley”? That should explain Rizwan’s obsession with BabarRizwan
Rizwan as an additional solid layer
That’s Sharjeel and the guy in your DP.Nothing surprising about these stats. Babar is a nothing player and he will continue to be a nothing player.
Honestly I'm happy that he was reappointed as captain. Looking throughout social media it appears that people have begun to realise what a despicable character he truely is and with the exception of his cult fan base, everyone is sick and tired of him
Inshallah this T20 world cup exposes him further and maybe in a year or two we can finally throw him into the dustbin of history
Bro this babar nonsense is vetting ridiculous.Rizwan
Rizwan as an additional solid layer
Sri Lanka too. They worship Babar but they have a few guns in their ranks that have way more potential to cause damage.I'm aware.
Every top side has 3 to 4 batsmen better then babar and more consistent.
Australia
1) Warner, Travis, Marsh, Maxwell
NZ
2) Conway, Rachin, Williamson, Darly Mitchell
India
3) Rohit, Kohli, Gill, Sheryas
SA
4) Quinton, Makram, Klaseen
Eng
5) Idk, their all woefully out of form
Afg
6) Maybe, I'm not biased like others, afghani batsmen were facing a joke opposition against us, while Bobby had to deal with goat spinners.
That guy in my DP is a two time ICC winning captain something Babar will never achieve in his dreamsThat’s Sharjeel and the guy in your DP.
I don’t think we need to move forward beyond this point because Sarfaraz is already forgotten.That guy in my DP is a two time ICC winning captain something Babar will never achieve in his dreams
No matter what happens going forward, Sarfraz will be loved and cherished by the people of Pakistan whereas Babar will be remembered as nothing but a stat padding jester
Sarfraz is the one cricketer in Pakistan who is loved by all. Babar may have his cult FC however he is slowly becoming more divisive than Imran NiaziI don’t think we need to move forward beyond this point because Sarfaraz is already forgotten.
His career tanked quicker than the reputation of a few posters here. He is now a completely forgotten cricketer outside Karachi and even QG kicked him out in the end.
Babar is 100x bigger than Sarfraz ever was.Sarfraz is the one cricketer in Pakistan who is loved by all. Babar may have his cult FC however he is slowly becoming more divisive than Imran Niazi
Saifi on the other hand is loved by all no matter the city or region. The only exception being Peshawar and greater KP who prefer the corrupt Molvi
He’s basically here looking to trigger another beat down that he suffered as a result. He hasn’t been able to digest it.I've been informed about what went on in the morning. Deeply disturbed by some of the comments that were made from the usual suspect.
Let him play first before calling him a match winner. Let him even get close to them 2 loser in any formats first.He is your only Match winner, plain and simple, his X factor innings are more then enough irrespective of whatever format they were in.
I'd rather have a player who plays for Pakistan and the crest on his chest and watch him fail 30x but perform once with a blistering match winning innings
Over
2 losers who even when performing make us fail amd play for themselves.
And just hope clones/clowns are not made like I RobotRizwan wants to be Babar. Have you seen the movie “the talented mr Ripley”? That should explain Rizwan’s obsession with Babar
Nah, I was actually telling everyone how I have been eating posters like yourself for breakfast, lunch and dinner for 12 years. This is nothing new for me.
I was never like this but you pushed me too far.
After 12 years of torture and abuse I had to snap
Everyone loves sarfi bro. Him winning ct 2017 was narratively the best moment for Pakistan surpassing 1992.Sarfraz is the one cricketer in Pakistan who is loved by all. Babar may have his cult FC however he is slowly becoming more divisive than Imran Niazi
Saifi on the other hand is loved by all no matter the city or region. The only exception being Peshawar and greater KP who prefer the corrupt Molvi
Where? In Model town?Babar is 100x bigger than Sarfraz ever was.
Reality checks / truth bombs are often disturbing and painful.I've been informed about what went on in the morning. Deeply disturbed by some of the comments that were made from the usual suspect.
Yes he said something along these lines.Continue with the insults but this is what I've been told, when you were throwing a tantrum:
Sarfaraz is the true pride of Pakistan. It’s sad to see the kids who he taught how to walk betray the crest on their shirt for their agenciesSarfraz is the one cricketer in Pakistan who is loved by all. Babar may have his cult FC however he is slowly becoming more divisive than Imran Niazi
Saifi on the other hand is loved by all no matter the city or region. The only exception being Peshawar and greater KP who prefer the corrupt Molvi
Throughout Pakistan.Where? In Model town?
Sarfaraz is the true pride of Pakistan. It’s sad to see the kids who he taught how to walk betray the crest on their shirt for their agencies
I would rate the 2017 champions trophy as Pakistan's second greatest moment behind Chagai-1Everyone loves sarfi bro. Him winning ct 2017 was narratively the best moment for Pakistan surpassing 1992.
The Narrative of Pakistan being ranked no 8 and considered a joke team, and getting humiliated by their rival nation in the first match, only to come back strong and beat every team in the tournament and give India an even more humiliating defeat by a greater run margin will always be talked about in future generations.
It's a cold hard fact.
Babar would play fakhar at no 4, put shehzad at opening, Kick Amir and imad out and would have fakhar and Shehzad fill those 10 quotasI would rate the 2017 champions trophy as Pakistan's second greatest moment behind Chagai-1
From almost not qualifying for the tournament, to being ranked number 8 going in and than being destroyed in our opening game, we were able to pull off the comeback of the century.
Once a week I watch the tournament highlights and it always amazes me how Saifi was able to take a team filled with inexperienced rookies and transformed it into probably the best ODI side we ever had.
If Babar was captaining the same side I could guarantee that currently we wouldn't even be participating in this years world T20 and would probably have lost our test status by now
Sarfaraz has made his country proud. Babar took Pakistan to THE WORST EVER cricket World Cup campaign in its history.Throughout Pakistan.
Babar is one of the most popular Pakistani cricketers ever. Sarfraz never managed to scale those heights in spite of captaining Pakistan to a CT win.
His pathetic individual skills were the blocker. You have to command respect as a player before people respect you for your captaincy.
Also, his captaincy stint ended very badly after the CT glory. 2018-19 was shocking for Pakistan in Tests and ODIs.
Sarfraz needs to spend the rest of his years thinking about how he could let everything fall off so abruptly after being on top of the world in 2017
He learned how to block well under Misbah I’ll give him that.Sarfraz himself learnt to walk under Misbah![]()
Please don't put those two in the same sentenceSarfraz himself learnt to walk under Misbah![]()
You think the 2023 campaign is worse then 2007?Sarfaraz has made his country proud. Babar took Pakistan to THE WORST EVER cricket World Cup campaign in its history.
Sarfaraz received the parade of a champion, Babar has only received chittars of humiliation for his output.
Sarfaraz has made his country proud. Babar took Pakistan to THE WORST EVER cricket World Cup campaign in its history.
Sarfaraz received the parade of a champion, Babar has only received chittars of humiliation for his output.
Yes that's why ahmedabad was booing him out of admiration.Babar and Amir are the only two Pakistani cricketers than Indians respect.
Sarfraz’s lasting image vs India is yawning with belly sticking out while Rohit was smashing his bowlers all over the park in 2019 World Cup and his “street smart captaincy” couldn’t contain him.
This was before he claimed in 2018 that India was scared of playing Pakistan before India destroyed his Pakistan twice in the 2018 Asia Cup without a prime Kohli.
Thankfully the West Indies game wasn’t washed out. Otherwise his deluded fans would used that game as an example of how Pakistan got unlucky and missed out on the semifinal because of rain.Don't forget the humiliation we suffered under Sarfraz in the 2019 World Cup. West Indies out of all the teams made a mockery of us by chasing in 13 overs in a one day game. That was the downfall of Sarfraz
Babar and Amir are the only two Pakistani cricketers than Indians respect.
Please don't put those two in the same sentence
Misbah actively tried to destroy Sarfraz's career in any way possible. Whether it be playing a washed and unfit Jamshed and having Umar Akmal keeping or better yet choosing the worst Akmal (Adnan).
Fact is Misbah was adamant on making sure Sarfraz was thrown into the dustbin of history however a house kitten cannot compete with a lion. Sarfraz with all the odds against him was able to carve out a position in the team, he was able to become captain without anyone lobbying for him and he was able to do something that Misbah could never do. WIN US A TROPHY
Other than that he was able to salvage our limited overs team which Misbah had destroyed and created a XI filled with match winners and fighters
Fans are fans. How they react in the heat of the moment while attending matches in the stadium doesn’t reflect the general public sentiment.Yes that's why ahmedabad was booing him out of admiration.
What a jokeBabar and Amir are the only two Pakistani cricketers than Indians respect.
Sarfraz’s lasting image vs India is yawning with belly sticking out while Rohit was smashing his bowlers all over the park in 2019 World Cup and his “street smart captaincy” couldn’t contain him.
This was before he claimed in 2018 that India was scared of playing Pakistan before India destroyed his Pakistan twice in the 2018 Asia Cup without a prime Kohli.
He did but then he lost it in 2018 and 2019.That's cap.
Sarfraz gained respect from Indians after seeing their side get destroyed by his men in the 2017 CT final.
We suffered humiliation in one match.Don't forget the humiliation we suffered under Sarfraz in the 2019 World Cup. West Indies out of all the teams made a mockery of us by chasing in 13 overs in a one day game. That was the downfall of Sarfraz
2019 campaign is disappointing, but it isn't a bad campaign.Don't forget the humiliation we suffered under Sarfraz in the 2019 World Cup. West Indies out of all the teams made a mockery of us by chasing in 13 overs in a one day game. That was the downfall of Sarfraz
Actions speak louder than words and Misbah's actions where nothing short of being criminal.Ok let's rewrite history and imagine things as we see fit because you don't like one player.
Misbah's support for Sarfraz is on record and even termed him as the 'oxygen of the team'
But I prefer to engage in proper discourse with intelligent people, not people who should be in an asylum right now.Here’s how it’s going to go.
Since yesterday, Babar has condemned himself to infinite laanat.
Every day, every passing hour will be a reminder of that laanat he has incurred for backstabbing a guy who stood by him.
I haven’t let people forget the betrayal of Pakistan with the fraud Rizwan being shoved down our throats
I will not let people forget this cursed person Babar Azam too.
Get used to it. This is the new normal here.
^^ This comment alone (other then your nonstop abusive comments) should outright expose your nonsense intellect.Fans are fans. How they react in the heat of the moment while attending matches in the stadium doesn’t reflect the general public sentiment.
India has a lot of ignorant and uneducated fans too. They were criticizing the Pakistan captain because of hatred; they were not criticizing Babar the batsman.
intelligent Indian fans respect Babar because he is a quality batsman and very Indian like in his batting approach and technique.
I rarely see any Australian players being trolled by Indians, why? Because they understand the difference between quality and rubbish just as they understand the Babar Azam is nothing more than just a stat padding match loserThe more popular you are, the more you are trolled. That is social media age for you.
Indians were trembling in their boots in the final against Australia.I rarely see any Australian players being trolled by Indians, why? Because they understand the difference between quality and rubbish just as they understand the Babar Azam is nothing more than just a stat padding match loser
another one that needs a geography book and a history lesson.I rarely see any Australian players being trolled by Indians, why? Because they understand the difference between quality and rubbish just as they understand the Babar Azam is nothing more than just a stat padding match loser