Bacha Khan University Makes Black Abaya Mandatory For Female Students

[saeedhk]

Presiding over the ninth Academic Council meeting held at Bacha Khan University in Charsadda district of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Vice Chancellor Prof. Dr. Bashir Ahmed issued directions making it mandatory for female students to wear a black abaya with white or black scarf. The students are only allowed to wear the black and ‘loose’ abaya with either a white or black shalwar kameez. Footwear has also been restricted to black smooth slippers.

According to a report in Peshawar’s Shahbaz Daily, the vice-chancellor ordered a ban on all types of jeans, T-shirts, trousers, short shirts, make-up, jewellery, fancy purses, thin clothing and heels at the university.

For male students the new dress code includes plain shirts with blue or black dress pants, black or brown shoes, clean winter shalwar kameez or dark blue vest or coat, sweater, and plain jacket. Students wearing a colorful muffler will not be allowed in the university.

The new order issued also calls for careful arrangements to be made for the students to study and learn the Holy Quran with detailed translation within the university.

Source: https://nayadaur.tv/2021/01/bacha-khan-university-makes-black-abaya-mandatory-for-female-students/

 

[saeedhk]

While other universities are discussing space, nano-technology and genetic engineering, our universities are telling students what to wear. Absolutely shameful!

 

[Tubs]

Inb4 the usual apologists use false equivalencies like 'there are dress codes in schools in the West' (yes, schools, not unis) and 'you can't wear anything in Western unis' (yes, but that's a farcry from a mandated dress code).

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I don't know when this Arabization of our society began. But its hard to believe we have come to this point. Hijab and burqa are not a part of our culture, dupatta is. To make something that isn't even a part of our culture mandatory is preposterous and shows the regressive midsets guiding our educational institutions. If a woman wants to wear a burqa or hijab then that is her choice. But to enforce it upon them is absolutely unacceptable.

 

[JaDed]

I don't know when this Arabization of our society began. But its hard to believe we have come to this point. Hijab and burqa are not a part of our culture, dupatta is. To make something that isn't even a part of our culture mandatory is preposterous and shows the regressive midsets guiding our educational institutions. If a woman wants to wear a burqa or hijab then that is her choice. But to enforce it upon them is absolutely unacceptable.

Cultures evolve..

 

[Thomaskutty]

oof .. what a suffocating country Pakistan is becoming under Imran Khan.

 

[moghul]

Bacha Khan , though an Indian agent in Pakistan, was a secular man and so much mullahism in the university named after him.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Cultures evolve..

This will help more participation from females in conservative societies.

What is more important, more participation by females, or more freedom in dressing for few females?

 

[Giannis]

This is ridiculous but unsurprising, desi culture mixed with wahabism is all about policing people's personal liberties and treating fully grown adults as children. Pakistan has to be one of the most sexually repressed countries in the world and with the surge in adult content search and sexual assaults along with the lack of inter-gender social skills in Pakistan proves that these policies are the cause of all these problems.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Bacha Khan , though an Indian agent in Pakistan, was a secular man and so much mullahism in the university named after him.

Mullahism has nothing to do with Islam or Pakistan, anyways.

The Mullahs and "seculars" were always against the creation of Pakistan from the beginning.

This university's name should be changed.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

While other universities are discussing space, nano-technology and genetic engineering, our universities are telling students what to wear. Absolutely shameful!

Jaahliyat (ignorance) is universal. Apparently some "western" (UK) teachers are annoyed with length of a 12 year old kid's skirt...

https://www.vogue.com/article/muslim-student-uk-sent-home-for-skirt-being-too-long

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Cultures evolve..

There is a difference between evolution and regression.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

This is ridiculous but unsurprising, desi culture mixed with wahabism is all about policing people's personal liberties and treating fully grown adults as children. Pakistan has to be one of the most sexually repressed countries in the world and with the surge in adult content search and sexual assaults along with the lack of inter-gender social skills in Pakistan proves that these policies are the cause of all these problems.

Very good point.

 

[Giannis]

Jaahliyat (ignorance) is universal. Apparently some "western" (UK) teachers are annoyed with length of a 12 year old kid's skirt...

https://www.vogue.com/article/muslim-student-uk-sent-home-for-skirt-being-too-long

You're comparing an exception to a norm; I'm sure the vast majority of female students in the UK especially Muslims one are allowed to wear long skirts, this is more of an isolated case and the parents and the kid will most likely be compensated with the subsequent media uproar and political interest (rightfully so), however controlling how people dress and behave is actual the norm in Pakistan and sadly supported by the majority. So you can't take one statistical outlier and compare it to a trend, it's just basic statistics.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

You're comparing an exception to a norm; I'm sure the vast majority of female students in the UK especially Muslims one are allowed to wear long skirts, this is more of an isolated case and the parents and the kid will most likely be compensated with the subsequent media uproar and political interest (rightfully so), however controlling how people dress and behave is actual the norm in Pakistan and sadly supported by the majority. So you can't take one statistical outlier and compare it to a trend, it's just basic statistics.

Hence, I used the word ignorance. Same argument can be said about "majority" of UK people imposing their ideas on minority. It goes both ways.

I get what you are trying to say.

 

[cricketjoshila]

University named after the great khan who was a secular man and this happens.

 

[Giannis]

Hence, I used the word ignorance. Same argument can be said about "majority" of UK people imposing their ideas on minority. It goes both ways.

I get what you are trying to say.

Except in the west you're free to disagree to some extent, women can protest a hijab ban or being forced to wear revealing clothes however very rarely do you see dissent in Pakistan against dress codes, people are just expected to conform as authorities will play the "religion card"

 

[Giannis]

University named after the great khan who was a secular man and this happens.

I wouldn't say secular, maybe progressive. Nobody in the west uses "Secular" to describe someone like they do in India, it's not really a characteristic.

 

[Giannis]

oof .. what a suffocating country Pakistan is becoming under Imran Khan.

To be fair, these policies were in place long before him you just hear about this every couple of years, you can use google search to see policies adopted earlier.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I don't know when this Arabization of our society began. But its hard to believe we have come to this point. Hijab and burqa are not a part of our culture, dupatta is. To make something that isn't even a part of our culture mandatory is preposterous and shows the regressive midsets guiding our educational institutions. If a woman wants to wear a burqa or hijab then that is her choice. But to enforce it upon them is absolutely unacceptable.

Agree with the point about regressive mindsets entering educational establishments but we cant just blame everything on Arabization.

Burqa has always existed in Pakistan and pre partition India. I guess in KPK there may also be a strong Afghan influence too.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Agree with the point about regressive mindsets entering educational establishments but we cant just blame everything on Arabization.

Burqa has always existed in Pakistan and pre partition India. I guess in KPK there may also be a strong Afghan influence too.

It has but not to the extent with which it has penetrated into society post 1980s. Tribal areas region was always known for its ultra-conservative culture but the burqas common in their society are different from the 'Arab burqa'.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It has but not to the extent with which it has penetrated into society post 1980s. Tribal areas region was always known for its ultra-conservative culture but the burqas common in their society are different from the 'Arab burqa'.

Perhaps...I just think the impact of the Arabization phenomenon is vastly overrated, although I must say that those that lived in Pakistan during these times will know better.

In this instance I seem more inclined to believe that its tribal culture infiltration rather than Arabization. Either way its wrong of course.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Jaahliyat (ignorance) is universal. Apparently some "western" (UK) teachers are annoyed with length of a 12 year old kid's skirt...

https://www.vogue.com/article/muslim-student-uk-sent-home-for-skirt-being-too-long

Is she the daughter of a key worker because uk kids cannot go to school until after March

It's sad that KP has become so radicalised considering the tribes there have fought against hegemony and assimilation against the greeks, mughals, dogras, Soviets etc for so many years
The akmal, yousufzai tribes and Safi tribes of the past might consider sending more of their girls to uni if this uniform is in place for both girls and guys

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Cultures evolve..

Indeed. In Pakistan they might be wearing burkas or long shalwar kameez, in India or Sri Lanka they may be wearing jeans or skirts rather than saris or choori pajama.

I don't know why desis abroad always obsess over what they are wearing in the old country.

 

[JaDed]

This will help more participation from females in conservative societies.

What is more important, more participation by females, or more freedom in dressing for few females?

Participation and maybe the conservatives can show that with such rules they are able to get higher number of women to participate.(data)

 

[TSA321]

This is ridiculous but unsurprising, desi culture mixed with wahabism .

Pashtun culture you mean.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Participation and maybe the conservatives can show that with such rules they are able to get higher number of women to participate.(data)

To satisfy your intellectual curiosity, the university should perform an experiment, with one batch as control group which is allowed to wear anything, and another batch, from same department, as the test group which is permitted only abaya, across a year, and then do a student-T analysis to see if the dropout and admission rates for that department compared for both groups had a p value less than 0.005.

 

[Sir-fraz]

This will help more participation from females in conservative societies.

What is more important, more participation by females, or more freedom in dressing for few females?

Nice mental gymnastics. Instead of trying to change a medevil culture lets appease it.

 

[JaDed]

To satisfy your intellectual curiosity, the university should perform an experiment, with one batch as control group which is allowed to wear anything, and another batch, from same department, as the test group which is permitted only abaya, across a year, and then do a student-T analysis to see if the dropout and admission rates for that department compared for both groups had a p value less than 0.005.

Yeah .. don’t you think conservatives should spreading the data that suits them? Liberals can counter it if they want..

Also I meant with Unis as such, checking out uni numbers in same area..

 

[CricketCartoons]

Yeah .. don’t you think conservatives should spreading the data that suits them? Liberals can counter it if they want..

Also I meant with Unis as such, checking out uni numbers in same area..

Liberals are only liberals when you agree with them. Don't think anyone should bother with providing them data.

 

[BreadPakoda]

University named after the great khan who was a secular man and this happens.

When joshila bro talks about secularism

 

[JaDed]

Liberals are only liberals when you agree with them. Don't think anyone should bother with providing them data.

It’s not about them (they will jus counter) it’s about the young and how you can get them under your umbrella with data and facts?

 

[Nadeemp]

This will help more participation from females in conservative societies.

What is more important, more participation by females, or more freedom in dressing for few females?

But women who were more comfortable with eating this new dress code had no restrictions on it before. They could have worn it anyway. Why force others

 

[Nadeemp]

This is ridiculous but unsurprising, desi culture mixed with wahabism is all about policing people's personal liberties and treating fully grown adults as children. Pakistan has to be one of the most sexually repressed countries in the world and with the surge in adult content search and sexual assaults along with the lack of inter-gender social skills in Pakistan proves that these policies are the cause of all these problems.

Agreed 1000 percent

 

[guna]

Hope the male students do not have to wear their pants above their ankles.

 

[moghul]

Mullahism has nothing to do with Islam or Pakistan, anyways.

The Mullahs and "seculars" were always against the creation of Pakistan from the beginning.

This university's name should be changed.

The guy who never accepted Pakistan and did not like to be buries in Pakistan , has a university named after him, idiotic , hope its a private and not a public university.

 

[cricketjoshila]

When joshila bro talks about secularism

I want secularism. What i cannot tolerate is Sickularism, thats basically appeasement.

One country, One law and uniform application. Is it too much to ask?

 

[Giannis]

I want secularism. What i cannot tolerate is Sickularism, thats basically appeasement.

One country, One law and uniform application. Is it too much to ask?

That's not really up to you. You need to understand that Indian Muslims and other religious groups in India signed a separate social contract with the Indian state, if the founding fathers had promised a separate legal system for a certain community then they have to keep that by principle, that's the deal that was worked out at the time India was formed and the social contract can only be changed if the people that agreed to decide to amend it, so if Indian Muslims want to forgo their personal laws for one uniform law code then that's up to them, India can't renege on its promises. Perhaps put it on a ballot as a proposition that Indian Muslims can vote on.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's not really up to you. You need to understand that Indian Muslims and other religious groups in India signed a separate social contract with the Indian state, if the founding fathers had promised a separate legal system for a certain community then they have to keep that by principle, that's the deal that was worked out at the time India was formed and the social contract can only be changed if the people that agreed to decide to amend it, so if Indian Muslims want to forgo their personal laws for one uniform law code then that's up to them, India can't renege on its promises. Perhaps put it on a ballot as a proposition that Indian Muslims can vote on.

Nothing like this was signed or promised. Who feeds you suvh stories?

Muslims who wanted a separate system, got a separate country. Those who stayed in India, were not even guaranteed a secular country, let alone separate personal laws. India could have been a hindu country.

It was only Nehru who wanted to pamper muslims, for their votes and to have a one up on his rival M A Jinnah.

So no, its not upto the muslims to decide, its upto the parliament to bring in the Uniform civil code as required by the constitution.

 

[El Generico]

University named after the great khan who was a secular man and this happens.

Don’t you always chant “our country, our rules” when someone talks about India? Going by your own logic, why do you care what Pakistan does?

 

[Mamoon]

Time to change the name from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa to Khyber Al-Bakhtunkhwa.

 

[szrana007]

Well, Burqa has always been an important part of the KPK culture, so I don't know why people are surprised about this. This move will actually help parents send their daughters to the university with more security.

Burqa is on the rise in Pakistan anyways. More and more women are wearing it now.

 

[Nadeemp]

What are dress code requirements for men at the uni?

 

[angrypathan]

What are dress code requirements for men at the uni?

It's right there in the original post

 

[Nadeemp]

It's right there in the original post

Aah. Missed that. Why no colorful scarf.