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WHEN Bangladesh won independence from Pakistan in 1971, it was much poorer than the country it left. Industry accounted for only 6-7% of its GDP, compared with over 20% in Pakistan. The battle for independence had killed or displaced millions, damaged roads and railways, and severed ties with Pakistan’s bankers and industrialists (including the owner of one of the world’s biggest jute mills). Even before the war, Bangladesh had been trampled by another apocalyptic horseman: a cyclone killed hundreds of thousands in 1970. The country’s independence leader, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, complained that West Pakistan had not promptly shared its bumper wheat crop or “given a yard of cloth for our shrouds”.

Last month revealed a remarkable turnaround. Bangladesh’s GDP per person is now higher than Pakistan’s. Converted into dollars at market exchange rates, it was $1,538 in the past fiscal year (which ended on June 30th). Pakistan’s was about $1,470.

Strange as it may sound, Bangladesh jumped ahead because of an advance in Pakistan. On August 25th Pakistan released the results of its census, updating earlier population estimates. They showed that the country has 207.8m people, more than 9m more than previously thought. It may now have the fifth biggest population in the world, surpassing Brazil’s. But the new count also lopped 4-5% off Pakistan’s GDP per person, the arithmetic consequence of revealing so many more people.

A caveat should be noted. A dollar stretches further in Pakistan than in Bangladesh because prices in the former tend to be lower. So Pakistan’s $1,470 per person actually has more purchasing power than Bangladesh’s $1,538.

https://www.economist.com/news/asia...t-bangladeshs-gdp-person-now-higher-pakistans


Good for Bangaldesh that they are improving but where did Pakistan go wrong? Pakistan still has a better Purchasing Power but it will also be expected to do well as it had a Head Starr during the break up.
 
Well done to Bangladesh. They've made some good moves during their nationhood, and their economy is symptomatic of them.
 
Some old posts in PP,

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Bang is still behind Pak when it comes to PPP. SL still kicking SAARC neighbors in the rear. So, not much has changed..

Maldives is dependent far too much on the tourism sector, so SL is the de facto leader..

Country ---- 2014 ------- 1991 ---- ratio
Maldives ---12,435 ---- 2,767 ---- 4.5
SL --------- 10,355 --- 2,485 --- 4.16
Bhutan------ 7,657 --- 1,533 ---- 5
India ------- 5,777 --- 1,230 --- 4.7
Pak --------- 4,746 --- 1,918 --- 2.5
Bang --------3,385 ----- 890 --- 3.8
Nepal ------- 2,381----- 851----- 2.8

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Ratio is telling us the rate of improvement. BD has improved by 3.8 times when compared to Pakistan at 2.5 times in the last 23 years.

If same trend continues for another few decades then BD economy will be bigger than Pakistan. I am pretty certain that per capita income of BD will be higher even quicker if the same trend continues. Simply because BD population will shrink but Pakistan's population will grow.


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Didn't take too long. I was expecting it will take a bit longer to be honest.
 
Isnt the population in Pakistan close to 220mn?
[MENTION=26195]DW44[/MENTION]
 
The way BD stemmed its population growth is praiseworthy. India and Pakstan can learn a lessen from BD.

The above stats from [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] is only till 2008. I hope India's kids per family went down to 2 or less.
 
The way BD stemmed its population growth is praiseworthy. India and Pakstan can learn a lessen from BD.

The above stats from [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] is only till 2008. I hope India's kids per family went down to 2 or less.

2016 List by the World Bank

Pakistan 3.6
India - 2.4
BD - 2.2


2017 List by the Population Reference Bureau

Pakistan 3.6
India - 2.3
BD - 2.3

World average is 2.5 in both lists.
 
The way BD stemmed its population growth is praiseworthy. India and Pakstan can learn a lessen from BD.

They didn't really have a choice though, look how high their population density is.
 
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They didn't really have a choice though, look how high their population density is.

Is population equally distributed in Pakistan or focused in some areas? Some time you can have a big land mass which is not suitable for population. That can make it hard inferring something meaningful from population density of entire country.
 
The way BD stemmed its population growth is praiseworthy. India and Pakstan can learn a lessen from BD.

The above stats from [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] is only till 2008. I hope India's kids per family went down to 2 or less.

If there's any country we should look at in this regard - it's Sri Lanka, not Bangladesh.
 
They've done incredibly well in such a relatively short period given the age of their nation. It's all the more impressive given that they had to come from such a low point to start with given the economic discrimination faced by the region between 1947-1971 - despite having a larger population than West Pakistan government spending in the East was pitiful.
 
Isnt the population in Pakistan close to 220mn?

[MENTION=26195]DW44[/MENTION]

Only thing that's a lock so far is that GB and AJK have a combined population of around 6 million. For the rest, preliminary figures range from 207 to 213 million, lets see when the final figures are released.
 
It was only a matter of time really. Bangladeshi economy has been consistently growing at 5-6% for almost 2 decades and is now in the 7% region and after key infrastructure projects (like the Padma Bridge and Metro rail) are completed should hit the 8% mark. Population growth has been stabilised and another area that Bangladesh has excelled in among South Asian countries and where Pakistan has faltered is the inclusion of women in the workforce. Really hard for the economy to grow when half of your population is confined to making rotis and birthing babies.
 
On topic, good on BD. They got their economic fundamentals right(ish) and, as a result, are doing well in the copy-paste growth stage. Their textile industry, which is the poster child industry for copy paste growth, has outcompeted and decimated Pakistan's once promising textile industry, primarily because of our crappy policies. This statistic says it all: In 1972, manufacturing accounted for 4% of Bangladesh's GDP. Today that figure is 18%. The corresponding figures for Pakistan are 16% in 1972 and 13% today. Good on their policymakers. Ours could learn a thing or two instead of making castles in the sky about becoming some pan Islamist military superpower.
 
It's shameful for Pakistan.

Considering the potential a few decades back and now the country is moving at such a slow pace compared to the rapid pace of others like Bangladesh.

It's not just a change of leadership but a complete overhaul of education especially women empowerment that will change things for the better.

Pakistan media should highlight this report so Alarm bells start ringing.
 
"A caveat should be noted. A dollar stretches further in Pakistan than in Bangladesh because prices in the former tend to be lower. So Pakistan’s $1,470 per person actually has more purchasing power than Bangladesh’s $1,538."


For those who didn't bother reading the article.


:salute
 
On topic, good on BD. They got their economic fundamentals right(ish) and, as a result, are doing well in the copy-paste growth stage. Their textile industry, which is the poster child industry for copy paste growth, has outcompeted and decimated Pakistan's once promising textile industry, primarily because of our crappy policies. This statistic says it all: In 1972, manufacturing accounted for 4% of Bangladesh's GDP. Today that figure is 18%. The corresponding figures for Pakistan are 16% in 1972 and 13% today. Good on their policymakers. Ours could learn a thing or two instead of making castles in the sky about becoming some pan Islamist military superpower.

also we have been at war for last 16 years
 
Bangladeshis get their heads down and are prepared to do hard labour.
Pakistanis on the hand sit and pontificate how things are bad it's because the politicians are corrupt, because the policy makers are incompetent, because the foreigners interfere in it's internal affairs, because everone's become lax and don't pray enough, because, because .....
 
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its an advanced country and a different experiment to most nation states today.

My point is that its easier to govern countries which are largely homogenous. Or atleast thats the impression I have after observations and reading case studies. For eg it wouldnt have been nearly as easy for lets say South Korea, Vietnam, Japan and in fact even China to carry out policies without mass opposition if the populations werent so ethnically homogenous.

Even in the case of US, Aus etc, my half-baked theory is that since majoirty of the population was also the one which held almost all the power, they were able to have policies without even having a debate or taking considerations of minorities into account. Basically it wouldnt matter if the policy implemented was at expense of the non-whites. Lets say in the period of US growth to being an economic powerhouse, if the policy makers didnt have such a free reign and had to take into account considerations of African-Americans or Hispanics then it would have been more difficult. Here they could achieve growth for the majority in control at expense of others.

In countries like India, Pakistan theres way too many people to make happy. And that is an important consideration obv.
 
so ? good for them. its easy to get higher GDP thn pakistan for any country if its not facing the war from last 16 years.
 
its an advanced country and a different experiment to most nation states today.

My point is that its easier to govern countries which are largely homogenous. Or atleast thats the impression I have after observations and reading case studies. For eg it wouldnt have been nearly as easy for lets say South Korea, Vietnam, Japan and in fact even China to carry out policies without mass opposition if the populations werent so ethnically homogenous.

Even in the case of US, Aus etc, my half-baked theory is that since majoirty of the population was also the one which held almost all the power, they were able to have policies without even having a debate or taking considerations of minorities into account. Basically it wouldnt matter if the policy implemented was at expense of the non-whites. Lets say in the period of US growth to being an economic powerhouse, if the policy makers didnt have such a free reign and had to take into account considerations of African-Americans or Hispanics then it would have been more difficult. Here they could achieve growth for the majority in control at expense of others.

In countries like India, Pakistan theres way too many people to make happy. And that is an important consideration obv.
And where are we vis-à-vis Pakistan, considering you also got some US aid/tech for a good 5 decades?
 
It was only a matter of time really. Bangladeshi economy has been consistently growing at 5-6% for almost 2 decades and is now in the 7% region and after key infrastructure projects (like the Padma Bridge and Metro rail) are completed should hit the 8% mark. Population growth has been stabilised and another area that Bangladesh has excelled in among South Asian countries and where Pakistan has faltered is the inclusion of women in the workforce. Really hard for the economy to grow when half of your population is confined to making rotis and birthing babies.

Do you think that credit should be given to Sheikh Hasina?
 
And where are we vis-à-vis Pakistan, considering you also got some US aid/tech for a good 5 decades?

As far as GDP per capita you are free to check out what Indias is
 
its an advanced country and a different experiment to most nation states today.

My point is that its easier to govern countries which are largely homogenous. Or atleast thats the impression I have after observations and reading case studies. For eg it wouldnt have been nearly as easy for lets say South Korea, Vietnam, Japan and in fact even China to carry out policies without mass opposition if the populations werent so ethnically homogenous.
You need to elaborate as to how/why homogeneity is/was a factor. Now had you said (as per the nations mentioned above) that the cultures of these societies had a large element of subservience towards authority, towards those in privileged positions and power, then I would completely agree with you.

I guess in that regard one could also say that Bangladeshi society also has/had a strong element of subservience towards those in power and authority, certainly as compared with their Pakistani counterparts. Many would argue even the Indians to some extent due to the historical hierarchical caste structure within Hinduism.

Even in the case of US, Aus etc, my half-baked theory is that since majoirty of the population was also the one which held almost all the power, they were able to have policies without even having a debate or taking considerations of minorities into account. Basically it wouldnt matter if the policy implemented was at expense of the non-whites. Lets say in the period of US growth to being an economic powerhouse, if the policy makers didnt have such a free reign and had to take into account considerations of African-Americans or Hispanics then it would have been more difficult. Here they could achieve growth for the majority in control at expense of others..
I would put that down to the pioneering factor.

Let me try and (badly) explain.

When someone decides to up sticks, leave his home, his friends and neighbours, perhaps even his family (or take them with him) to a new land, to the unknown, not knowing what awaits there, how one is going to make a living or even feed himself and his family, that individual has to have a pioneering spirit, a willingness to take a chance, to try something new, to innovate, and to be ready to go through hardships in order to make a better life for himself and his family.

That was the case of those early pioneers who went to North America, Australia etc, and that too in days when once you left your home shores, your friends and neighbours, you knew you will never see them again, you will never return, and any form of communication with those left behind was virtually non-existant. The same basic principle, but without the 'never seeing those left behind' factor (replacing 'never' with 'not for many years') , was the case a few centuries later for those who came from the sub-continent to the UK in the 50's and 60's.

Most of those now living in North America, Australia etc are the descendants of those mentioned above, and they would have inherited the traits of their forefathers, ie the 'get up and go' attitude of getting things done. (Simillar applies to the expat desis and their descendants born and bred in the West)
 
Trend is 25 years old here.


Pakistan would been much bigger economy than today if there was no war. Yes there has been wrong policies by our present and past governments but the war on terrorism has cost us a lot.

I didn't say it's the only reason, one of the reason for slow growth.
 
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Pakistan would been much bigger economy than today if there was no war. Yes there has been wrong policies by our present and past governments but the war on terrorism has cost us a lot.

I didn't say it's the only reason, one of the reason for slow growth.

Pakistan always does well when they are part of super power led war. Pak economy did quite well until 2006/07 if i remember correctly. Global recession, current account defecit, poor policies, PPP and PMLN govt led to slow down
 
Pakistan always does well when they are part of super power led war. Pak economy did quite well until 2006/07 if i remember correctly. Global recession, current account defecit, poor policies, PPP and PMLN govt led to slow down

That's because aid inflows increase massively when Pakistan is part of superpower led wars and Pakistan's economy is small enough for an inflow of an extra few billion dollars to produce some short term growth (during all such wars, Pakistanis GDP was comparable to a medium sized American or European city). Economic policies during dictatorships have been just as bad as under the Sharifs or Zardari.
 
"A caveat should be noted. A dollar stretches further in Pakistan than in Bangladesh because prices in the former tend to be lower. So Pakistan’s $1,470 per person actually has more purchasing power than Bangladesh’s $1,538."


For those who didn't bother reading the article.


:salute

Not an economist, but the dollar going further in Pakistan sounds to me like a sign the economy is weaker than Bangladesh's. Thats essentially cost of living...a low cost of living is usually found in underdevelopled areas where both goods and services are cheaper because the production costs (mostly human labor) are cheaper. Highest costs of living are all found in the financial capitals of the world, NYC, Hong Kong, London, Singapore, Tokyo, etc.
 
Pakistan would been much bigger economy than today if there was no war. Yes there has been wrong policies by our present and past governments but the war on terrorism has cost us a lot.

You are right, the war on terror has cost Pakistan a lot.

Pakistan could have chosen not to become involved in the war on terror. It could have stopped supporting the Taliban which was sheltering Bin Laden. However its Army/ISI decided that Taliban would be useful in the future. It could have acted against terrorists on its soil, however it tolerated a plethora of terrorist organizations to the extent that Bin Laden decided the safest place for him to hide would be Abbottabad. Bill Clinton made a good speech back in Pakistan about 17 years ago, in which he warned of the danger of the game the Pakistani Army/ISI was playing. His predictions have come to pass:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0003/25/bn.01.html
 
That's because aid inflows increase massively when Pakistan is part of superpower led wars and Pakistan's economy is small enough for an inflow of an extra few billion dollars to produce some short term growth (during all such wars, Pakistanis GDP was comparable to a medium sized American or European city). Economic policies during dictatorships have been just as bad as under the Sharifs or Zardari.

That is true. Pakistan benefitted due to these wars and working as a hired hand. most of 80s, 90 and 2000 they were involved in some or other conflict and money kept flowing inwards. Pakistan economy benefitted and for most of its existence it had a better economy and per capita than India and BD. It also helped that Pakistan had more open economic policies, and a military dictatorship which can take quick decisions (Bad or good).
 
Good to see BD progress well hopefully it gets even better for them..

Pakistan should have focussed on development rather religion/wars/terrorism/Kashmir etc Pakistan as a country had the best base to grow into a developed nation fastest amongst sub continent countries but they messed it up and are now at the bottom of the rung.. Hopefully you might get a strong leader with vision who can fix it..

India or should I say Indians are inherently corrupt from the inside so our rate of progress is hampered by that fact but still doing okayish..
 
Not an economist, but the dollar going further in Pakistan sounds to me like a sign the economy is weaker than Bangladesh's. Thats essentially cost of living...a low cost of living is usually found in underdevelopled areas where both goods and services are cheaper because the production costs (mostly human labor) are cheaper. Highest costs of living are all found in the financial capitals of the world, NYC, Hong Kong, London, Singapore, Tokyo, etc.
But then how do measure GDP? Not in the local currency, which then gets translated into dollars by applying the exchange rate? ie If the exchange rate goes down, will this not also make the GDP go down in dollar terms?
I'm not an economist, but perhaps some economist could clarify if this is the case or not? ie It's just an arbitrary figure that gets affected by exchange rates?
 
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Not an economist, but the dollar going further in Pakistan sounds to me like a sign the economy is weaker than Bangladesh's. Thats essentially cost of living...a low cost of living is usually found in underdevelopled areas where both goods and services are cheaper because the production costs (mostly human labor) are cheaper. Highest costs of living are all found in the financial capitals of the world, NYC, Hong Kong, London, Singapore, Tokyo, etc.

Incorrect thought process. GDP per capita with PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) is a better measure than GDP per capita Nominal when looking at the developing nations.

PPP takes into account what a person in the country can obtain (food, clothing etc) at local prices. For instance, buying a Big Mac will cost a lot less in $ in Pakistan than in the US. So, an average person will get more of a bang for his buck in Pakistan than in the US. So, the basics such as food, medicine, education, clothing and housing which are all procured within the same country can be better gauged by PPP.

Nominal is more useful when looking at the international products like an iPhone, airline ticket etc. These items are the same price whether you buy them in Pakistan or the US. So, the nominal is a better measure of what luxuries a nation can afford.

So looking at the figures, if Pakistan has better GDP Per capita PPP than Bangladesh, despite having a worse GDP per capita nominal, that means that Bangladesh as nation is richer, but there might be a greater disparity between the rich and the poor in Bangladesh than in Pakistan. Rich Bangladeshis can afford more luxuries, but poor ones struggle a bit more to obtain basic necessities.

Having said that I also believe that Bangladesh will take over Pakistan in GDP Per Capita PPP in a couple of years. Bangladesh has been blessed by some ingenious entrepreneurs such Md Yunus and Grameen Bank which has actually helped the poor and has concentrated on internal development. Pakistan on the other hand seems to be stuck in traditional economies and is still heavily dependent on external financing (CPEC etc) in order to grow economically. This is not a criticism of the either of the countries, but just an observation from an economics enthusiast (not an economist though).
 
Ultimately, Pakistan's conservatism is its downfall.

As [MENTION=137485]Dios[/MENTION] pointed out earlier, the rampant misogyny upon which Pakistan's society is built excludes the female 50% of the adult population from any wealth-creating activity.

Female literacy in Bangladesh is a disappointing 58.5% - even a country like Rwanda manages 68%.

But female literacy in Pakistan is an even more pathetic 42.7%.

The role of women in Pakistani society basically condemns the country to eternal backwardness and poverty.
 
Ultimately, Pakistan's conservatism is its downfall.

As [MENTION=137485]Dios[/MENTION] pointed out earlier, the rampant misogyny upon which Pakistan's society is built excludes the female 50% of the adult population from any wealth-creating activity.

Female literacy in Bangladesh is a disappointing 58.5% - even a country like Rwanda manages 68%.

But female literacy in Pakistan is an even more pathetic 42.7%.

The role of women in Pakistani society basically condemns the country to eternal backwardness and poverty.


The emancipation and empowerment of women is the best way to pull a country out of poverty and at the moment the whole region sucks in that respect.

From the UN:


Benefits of economic empowerment
When more women work, economies grow. An increase in female labour force participation—or a reduction in the gap between women’s and men’s labour force participation—results in faster economic growth [1].
Evidence from a range of countries shows that increasing the share of household income controlled by women, either through their own earnings or cash transfers, changes spending in ways that benefit children [2].
Increasing women and girls’ education contributes to higher economic growth. Increased educational attainment accounts for about 50 per cent of the economic growth in OECD countries over the past 50 years [3], of which over half is due to girls having had access to higher levels of education and achieving greater equality in the number of years spent in education between men and women [4]. But, for the majority of women, significant gains in education have not translated into better labour market outcomes [5]
A study using data from 219 countries from 1970 to 2009 found that, for every one additional year of education for women of reproductive age, child mortality decreased by 9.5 per cent [6].
Women tend to have less access to formal financial institutions and saving mechanisms. While 55 per cent of men report having an account at a formal financial institution, only 47 per cent of women do worldwide. This gap is largest among lower middle-income economies as well as in South Asia and the Middle East and North Africa [7].
The world of work
Women continue to participate in labour markets on an unequal basis with men. In 2013, the male employment-to-population ratio stood at 72.2 per cent, while the ratio for females was 47.1 per cent [8].
Globally, women are paid less than men. Women in most countries earn on average only 60 to 75 per cent of men’s wages [9]. Contributing factors include the fact that women are more likely to be wage workers and unpaid family workers; that women are more likely to engage in low-productivity activities and to work in the informal sector, with less mobility to the formal sector than men; [10] the view of women as economic dependents; and the likelihood that women are in unorganized sectors or not represented in unions [11].
It is calculated that women could increase their income globally by up to 76 per cent if the employment participation gap and the wage gap between women and men were closed. This is calculated to have a global value of USD 17 trillion [12].
Women bear disproportionate responsibility for unpaid care work. Women devote 1 to 3 hours more a day to housework than men; 2 to 10 times the amount of time a day to care (for children, elderly, and the sick), and 1 to 4 hours less a day to market activities [13]. In the European Union for example, 25 per cent of women report care and other family and personal responsibilities as the reason for not being in the labour force, versus only three per cent of men [14]. This directly and negatively impacts women’s participation in the labour force.
Gender inequalities in time use are still large and persistent in all countries. When paid and unpaid work are combined, women in developing countries work more than men, with less time for education, leisure, political participation and self-care [15]. Despite some improvements over the last 50 years, in virtually every country, men spend more time on leisure each day while women spend more time doing unpaid housework [16].
Women are more likely than men to work in informal employment [17]. In South Asia, over 80 per cent of women in non-agricultural jobs are in informal employment, in sub-Saharan Africa, 74 per cent, and in Latin America and the Caribbean, 54 per cent [18]. In rural areas, many women derive their livelihoods from small-scale farming, almost always informal and often unpaid [19].
More women than men work in vulnerable, low-paid, or undervalued jobs [20]. As of 2013, 49.1 per cent of the world’s working women were in vulnerable employment, often unprotected by labour legislation, compared to 46.9 per cent of men. Women were far more likely than men to be in vulnerable employment in East Asia (50.3 per cent versus 42.3 per cent), South-East Asia and the Pacific (63.1 per cent versus 56 per cent), South Asia (80.9 per cent versus 74.4 per cent), North Africa (54.7 per cent versus 30.2 per cent), the Middle East (33.2 per cent versus 23.7 per cent) and Sub-Saharan Africa (nearly 85.5 per cent versus 70.5 per cent) [21].
Gender differences in laws affect both developing and developed economies, and women in all regions. Almost 90 per cent of 143 economies studied have at least one legal difference restricting women’s economic opportunities [22]. Of those, 79 economies have laws that restrict the types of jobs that women can do [23]. And husbands can object to their wives working and prevent them from accepting jobs in 15 economies [24].
Women’s economic equality is good for business. Companies greatly benefit from increasing leadership opportunities for women, which is shown to increase organizational effectiveness. It is estimated that companies with three or more women in senior management functions score higher in all dimensions of organizational effectiveness [25].
Ethnicity and gender interact to create especially large pay gaps for minority women. In 2013 in the US for instance, “women of all major racial and ethnic groups earn less than men of the same group, and also earn less than white men…Hispanic women’s median earnings were USD 541 per week of full-time work, only 61.2 per cent of white men’s median weekly earnings, but 91.1 per cent of the median weekly earnings of Hispanic men (because Hispanic men also have low earnings). The median weekly earnings of black women were USD 606, only 68.6 per cent of white men’s earnings, but 91.3 per cent of black men’s median weekly earnings, which are also fairly low. Earnings for a full-time week of work leave Hispanic women well below, and Hispanic men and black women not much above, the qualifying income threshold for receipt of food stamps of USD 588.75 for a family of four” [26].
Essential to agriculture
Women comprise an average of 43 per cent of the agricultural labour force in developing countries, varying considerably across regions from 20 per cent or less in Latin America to 50 per cent or more in parts of Asia and Africa [27]. Despite the regional and sub-regional variation, women make an essential contribution to agriculture across the developing world.
Women farmers control less land than do men, and also have limited access to inputs, seeds, credits, and extension services [28]. Less than 20 per cent of landholders are women [29]. Gender differences in access to land and credit affect the relative ability of female and male farmers and entrepreneurs to invest, operate to scale, and benefit from new economic opportunities [30].
Women are responsible for household food preparation in 85-90 per cent of cases surveyed in a wide range of countries [31].
The green economy, sustainable development
From 1990 to 2010, more than 2 billion people gained access to safe drinking water, but 748 million people are still without clean drinking water [32].
Women, especially those in poverty, appear more vulnerable in the face of natural disasters. A recent study of 141 countries found that more women than men die from natural hazards. Where the socioeconomic status of women is high, men and women die in roughly equal numbers during and after natural disasters, whereas more women than men die (or die at a younger age) where the socioeconomic status of women is low. Women and children are more likely to die than men during disasters [33].
Women and children bear the main negative impacts of fuel and water collection and transport, with women in many developing countries spending from 1 to 4 hours a day collecting biomass for fuel [34]. A study of time and water poverty in 25 sub-Saharan African countries estimated that women spend at least 16 million hours a day collecting drinking water; men spend 6 million hours; and children, 4 million hours [35]. Gender gaps in domestic and household work, including time spent obtaining water and fuel and processing food, are intensified in contexts of economic crisis, environmental degradation, natural disasters, and inadequate infrastructure and services [36].

http://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/economic-empowerment/facts-and-figures
 
Incorrect thought process. GDP per capita with PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) is a better measure than GDP per capita Nominal when looking at the developing nations.

PPP takes into account what a person in the country can obtain (food, clothing etc) at local prices. For instance, buying a Big Mac will cost a lot less in $ in Pakistan than in the US. So, an average person will get more of a bang for his buck in Pakistan than in the US. So, the basics such as food, medicine, education, clothing and housing which are all procured within the same country can be better gauged by PPP.

Nominal is more useful when looking at the international products like an iPhone, airline ticket etc. These items are the same price whether you buy them in Pakistan or the US. So, the nominal is a better measure of what luxuries a nation can afford.

So looking at the figures, if Pakistan has better GDP Per capita PPP than Bangladesh, despite having a worse GDP per capita nominal, that means that Bangladesh as nation is richer, but there might be a greater disparity between the rich and the poor in Bangladesh than in Pakistan. Rich Bangladeshis can afford more luxuries, but poor ones struggle a bit more to obtain basic necessities.

Having said that I also believe that Bangladesh will take over Pakistan in GDP Per Capita PPP in a couple of years. Bangladesh has been blessed by some ingenious entrepreneurs such Md Yunus and Grameen Bank which has actually helped the poor and has concentrated on internal development. Pakistan on the other hand seems to be stuck in traditional economies and is still heavily dependent on external financing (CPEC etc) in order to grow economically. This is not a criticism of the either of the countries, but just an observation from an economics enthusiast (not an economist though).

Firstly I am not an economist, so my understanding may be llimited. But what I wanted to point out is what is the factor behind PPP disparity in different countries? Using the big mac example...lets say the Big Mac costs 5 USD in America. It might cost 2 USD in Pakistan, but 7 USD in Qatar. My idea is that it has to do with the production cost of the Big Mac. The labor and goods required to make a Big Mac in Pakistan (bread, meat, lettuce, onions) are all cheaper in PK than in US and Qatar. Cost of living is also higher in Qatar.
 
Firstly I am not an economist, so my understanding may be llimited. But what I wanted to point out is what is the factor behind PPP disparity in different countries? Using the big mac example...lets say the Big Mac costs 5 USD in America. It might cost 2 USD in Pakistan, but 7 USD in Qatar. My idea is that it has to do with the production cost of the Big Mac. The labor and goods required to make a Big Mac in Pakistan (bread, meat, lettuce, onions) are all cheaper in PK than in US and Qatar. Cost of living is also higher in Qatar.

PPP per cap GDP is a measure of how much consumption the people of a country can afford.

Unmodified per cap GDP is determined by consumption level and foreign exchange rate. The foreign exchange rate is determined by how much a country exports and imports, whether its foreign exchange reserves are increasing or decreasing etc.
 
PPP per cap GDP is a measure of how much consumption the people of a country can afford.

Unmodified per cap GDP is determined by consumption level and foreign exchange rate. The foreign exchange rate is determined by how much a country exports and imports, whether its foreign exchange reserves are increasing or decreasing etc.

I know what PPP is. But how much they can consume is in turn determined by the price of goods in their country. A big mac costs more in UAE than Pakistan.
 
I know what PPP is. But how much they can consume is in turn determined by the price of goods in their country. A big mac costs more in UAE than Pakistan.

But when you use PPP, it equates the price of the Big Mac (but generally a basket of essential items) in all countries (generally at US price) and then compares GDP per capita.

So, if the GDP per capita PPP is now $6,000 in Bangladesh and $40,000 in US and the Big Mac costs $5 in both countries, guess which country'c citizen will be able to afford more.
 
I'm pretty sure if you compared Lahore and Karachi to Dhaka they would have higher per capita incomes.
 
BANGLADESH VS PAKISTAN
A tale of two economies

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The infamous quote 'Bangladesh is a bottomless basket' made by then US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in 1974 has already been proved wrong.

In 1971, when Bangladesh achieved independence from Pakistan through a nine-month-long bloody battle that cost the lives of three million people, many doubted the survival of the new country.

But those concerns have dissipated long ago. In five years' time, Bangladesh is tipped to be a middle-income country.

Bangladesh's per capita income is estimated to be $1,909 at the end of the fiscal year, up from $120 in 1972.

Pakistan's per capita income stands at around $1,700 now from $180 in 1971.

Bangladesh is likely to be the biggest mover in the global GDP rankings in 2030, becoming the 26th largest economy in the world from 42nd last year, according to the latest HSBC Global Research report.

The report -- The World in 2030: Our long-term projections for 75 countries -- showed Bangladesh's economy would jump 16 notches, the highest by any country between 2018 and 2030. Bangladesh is now the world's second largest apparel exporter after mighty China, and its entrepreneurs have achieved that with imported machineries and raw materials.

The country exported $36.6 billion worth of goods in fiscal 2017-18, in contrast to Pakistan's just $23 billion.

Bangladesh's foreign exchange reserves is now more than double of Pakistan's less than $15 billion, and the latter's trade deficit is almost four times that of Bangladesh.

Pakistan's currency Rupee is now trading well below the value of Bangladesh's Taka: Tk 84 fetches one US dollar, whereas it costs more than Rs 140 in Pakistan.


Also, Bangladesh has made considerable progress in social sectors such as poverty reduction, health, family planning, female education, women's empowerment and child mortality reduction despite some challenges like governance crisis, corruption and political instability.

For example, the average life expectancy at birth has risen to 73 years in 2018 from less than 40 in 1971. The child mortality rate fell gradually from 224.6 deaths per 1,000 live births in 1968 to 32.4 deaths per 1,000 live births in 2017. The literacy rate has more than doubled since 1970.

So, its independence 48 years ago was for the better. This is the beauty of freedom.

https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/tale-two-economies-1720540
 
How many wars after independence has Bangladesh been in?
None i presume.
Their lucky to have no enemy. Pakistan isn't. Pakistan has been fighting a lot against terrorism and the cost has been high.
 
If Pakistan and Bangladesh by some miracle allowed free movement of people between Bangladesh and Pakistan, which of the two will show a net positive, and which will show a net negative, in terms of emigration and immigration between Pakistan and Bangladesh? ie Which country is the bigger attraction to improve one's quality of life? Are more people likely to move from Pakistan to Bangladesh than from Bangladesh to Pakistan, or vice versa?
 
How many wars after independence has Bangladesh been in?
None i presume.
Their lucky to have no enemy. Pakistan isn't. Pakistan has been fighting a lot against terrorism and the cost has been high.

They're*
 
Bangladesh is a lot smaller in area and more homogenous, Bangladesh is like if only data from Karachi and Punjab was counted for Pakistan. Both countries are very different, it's like comparing apples and oranges.
 
Bangladesh is a lot smaller in area and more homogenous, Bangladesh is like if only data from Karachi and Punjab was counted for Pakistan. Both countries are very different, it's like comparing apples and oranges.

I think the point is simple. Bangaldesh must be glad that it was worth it to put up a fight and escape from the Union of Pakistan where East Pakistan was only being exploited as a colony by the West Pakistan.

Today the previously exploited Bangaldesh is marching well ahead of Pakistan in most indicators while Pakistan is growing at a slower rate than Nepal and Maldives and only has Nuclear Weapons and a Rich army to show as it's achievement.
 
I think the point is simple. Bangaldesh must be glad that it was worth it to put up a fight and escape from the Union of Pakistan where East Pakistan was only being exploited as a colony by the West Pakistan.

Today the previously exploited Bangaldesh is marching well ahead of Pakistan in most indicators while Pakistan is growing at a slower rate than Nepal and Maldives and only has Nuclear Weapons and a Rich army to show as it's achievement.

Very happy for Bangladesh, they are Muslim brothers to Pakistan, and a shining example, may Allah bestow more prosperity on them. :)
 
I think having good relationships with both India and China is a reason for rapid Bangladeshi growth. Pakistan on the other has conflict zones on both sides of its borders and previous incompetent governments.
 
Well done Bangladesh, they must be doing something right to make such great strides. A few decades back the country was mainly associated with famines, poverty, poor drinking water, disasters and religious fundamentalism. But hope they also brace for the effects of climate change, very vulnerable to rising sea level, cyclones, floods etc.
 
I think having good relationships with both India and China is a reason for rapid Bangladeshi growth. Pakistan on the other has conflict zones on both sides of its borders and previous incompetent governments.

I think Bangaldesh has the best of both World's. Unlike Pakistan they are not involved in any useless wars on all fronts or any Global War on terror so don't have to spend precious resources on Weapons and Army and neither do they have the urge to waste money on useless Space Programmes like Poverty Hungry Malnourished India to show the World that they are some kind of Superpower

Bangaldesh has got it's priorities right.
 
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Bangladesh seem to have done well to get the fertility rate under control.

Even the ayatollahs of Iran has had more progressive policies on providing free birth control and investing in women's economic/educational opportunities than Pakistan.

One of the reasons behind this gap is because of the abysmal participation rate of women in the economy in Pakistan. I remember reading somewhere that women constitute half of Pakistan’s population, perform nearly two-thirds of work hours, receive one-tenth of the total income and own less than one-hundredth of Pakistan’s property.
 
How many wars after independence has Bangladesh been in?
None i presume.
Their lucky to have no enemy. Pakistan isn't. Pakistan has been fighting a lot against terrorism and the cost has been high.

Nothing to do with luck. Both countries are where they are because of their respective policies. Pakistan are still bearing the scars of the policies of Zia ul Haq that have plunged the country back into the dark ages and created these extremist groups that have wrecked havoc till today.
 
I also wonder does Bangladesh have a feudal and sardar/chaudhry system like it is seen in Pakistan? I was watching Najem Sethi last week and he was talking about how Pakistan is the only country in the developing world that did not have land reforms. Now, this is causing a huge burden on Pakistan's economy as it has created an elite class which is very complacent and unproductive.
 
Bangladesh seem to have done well to get the fertility rate under control.

Even the ayatollahs of Iran has had more progressive policies on providing free birth control and investing in women's economic/educational opportunities than Pakistan.

One of the reasons behind this gap is because of the abysmal participation rate of women in the economy in Pakistan. I remember reading somewhere that women constitute half of Pakistan’s population, perform nearly two-thirds of work hours, receive one-tenth of the total income and own less than one-hundredth of Pakistan’s property.

Exactly. Low fertility rate, female education, women's participation in workforce, these 3 are very important in developing countries and Bangladesh has identified these focus areas. Even in India the more developed region (South India) is doing these basics much better than North. All South Indian states have fertility rates in the 1.7-1.8 range while the cow belt has in between 3-4. It is shocking to see how we have failed so miserably in population control. Same with women empowerment, Sri Lanka is best in all these areas in South Asia region and hence are the most developed country despite a brutal decades long civil war.
 
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i will argue that GDP per capita is not a reliable statistic to show progress.
A country can have massive amounts of poverty and a high GDP per capita, if wealth is extremely concentrated in the hands of the 1%.

As GDP per capita is basically total amount of wealth divided by the population size, It is often used by governemnts to lie, using statistics.

I would prefer median household income as more robust means of showing improvements in living standards.
 
i will argue that GDP per capita is not a reliable statistic to show progress.
A country can have massive amounts of poverty and a high GDP per capita, if wealth is extremely concentrated in the hands of the 1%.

As GDP per capita is basically total amount of wealth divided by the population size, It is often used by governemnts to lie, using statistics.

I would prefer median household income as more robust means of showing improvements in living standards.

Our Gini ratio is slightly better (lower) than PAK (actually lower than IND as well), so income distribution must be better. However, for every fast growing economy, more than polarization what hurts middle class more is inflation. It's not that bad if few people starts to make lots of money as long as they launder that away from country (which doesn't seem to be the case big time considering the forex reserves & exchange rate), but that stresses the commodity price, which reduces the PPP income. Our Inflation rate is around 5.5%-6% for last few years which is lower than growth rate of around 7%; PAK's latest report from Wiki I see at alarming 9%+, which is almost twice than growth rate, means effectively country is becoming poorer - that often polarizes the wealth more (gap between rich/powerful vs poor/weak increases). Our HDI index has crossed 0.6 last year and Country stands at 116th spot, IND at 130 & PAK at 150 - so I guess, living standard as a whole won't be comparatively that bad.
 
Our Gini ratio is slightly better (lower) than PAK (actually lower than IND as well), so income distribution must be better. However, for every fast growing economy, more than polarization what hurts middle class more is inflation. It's not that bad if few people starts to make lots of money as long as they launder that away from country (which doesn't seem to be the case big time considering the forex reserves & exchange rate), but that stresses the commodity price, which reduces the PPP income. Our Inflation rate is around 5.5%-6% for last few years which is lower than growth rate of around 7%; PAK's latest report from Wiki I see at alarming 9%+, which is almost twice than growth rate, means effectively country is becoming poorer - that often polarizes the wealth more (gap between rich/powerful vs poor/weak increases). Our HDI index has crossed 0.6 last year and Country stands at 116th spot, IND at 130 & PAK at 150 - so I guess, living standard as a whole won't be comparatively that bad.

All I ask is for median household income for bangladesh, india and pakistan. If anyone has access to those, then they should publish them.

FYI, i expect bangladeh to have a better value, pakistan has been preoccupied with terrorism emanating from its east and west for quite some time now. Not to mention the calamity that was pakistan's decision to support the 'mujahideen' in the soviet invasion of afghanistan.
 
Smaller countries have it much easier in terms of economic development (Singapore,UAE,Qatar,Estonia,Gabon etc) but they are forced to rely on bigger nations for security.

Pakistan is stuck in this horrible middle where it is the only muslim nation with nuclear nations, along with 2 volatile borders. Ideally a country will build up economically(infrastrucuture) first and then militarily.
 
All I ask is for median household income for bangladesh, india and pakistan. If anyone has access to those, then they should publish them.

FYI, i expect bangladeh to have a better value, pakistan has been preoccupied with terrorism emanating from its east and west for quite some time now. Not to mention the calamity that was pakistan's decision to support the 'mujahideen' in the soviet invasion of afghanistan.

Are you sure it's just Eastern/Western borders and world politics to blame here?

Failure to provide basic education to it's kids and a resulting lack of modern industries in my opinion is the biggest factor in derailing Pakistani economy over the decades. Forget industries or economy, but the same has also led to this population being susceptible to terrorist ideology as there is no way for them to make informed decisions.

If Pakistan gets just this aspect right, there's no reason why they can't overtake India and Bangladesh in most such metrics.
 
Are you sure it's just Eastern/Western borders and world politics to blame here?

Failure to provide basic education to it's kids and a resulting lack of modern industries in my opinion is the biggest factor in derailing Pakistani economy over the decades. Forget industries or economy, but the same has also led to this population being susceptible to terrorist ideology as there is no way for them to make informed decisions.

If Pakistan gets just this aspect right, there's no reason why they can't overtake India and Bangladesh in most such metrics.

There is not one reason, but a multitude of reasons, including incompetent leadership and political instability.

Out of one such reason is Pakistan's geographic position. stuck with afghanistan as a neighbor, pakistan has suffered as a host for terrorists that entered as refugees after the Soviet and US invasion of Afghanistan.
 
Our Gini ratio is slightly better (lower) than PAK (actually lower than IND as well), so income distribution must be better. However, for every fast growing economy, more than polarization what hurts middle class more is inflation. It's not that bad if few people starts to make lots of money as long as they launder that away from country (which doesn't seem to be the case big time considering the forex reserves & exchange rate), but that stresses the commodity price, which reduces the PPP income. Our Inflation rate is around 5.5%-6% for last few years which is lower than growth rate of around 7%; PAK's latest report from Wiki I see at alarming 9%+, which is almost twice than growth rate, means effectively country is becoming poorer - that often polarizes the wealth more (gap between rich/powerful vs poor/weak increases). Our HDI index has crossed 0.6 last year and Country stands at 116th spot, IND at 130 & PAK at 150 - so I guess, living standard as a whole won't be comparatively that bad.

GDP and GDP growth is usually quoted in real terms - i.e. inflation is accounted for. It is the growth in GDP in excess of inflation. So a GDP growth rate of 7% actually means 12% growth in price or nominal terms (assuming inflation is 5%). 7% of that growth is real - i.e. coming from an actual increase in output and 5% is artificial arising simply from a rise in prices. GDP growth is usually measured in constant LCUs (local currency units) - 2010 Bangladeshi Takas for example to account for inflation.
 
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Are you sure it's just Eastern/Western borders and world politics to blame here?

Failure to provide basic education to it's kids and a resulting lack of modern industries in my opinion is the biggest factor in derailing Pakistani economy over the decades. Forget industries or economy, but the same has also led to this population being susceptible to terrorist ideology as there is no way for them to make informed decisions.

If Pakistan gets just this aspect right, there's no reason why they can't overtake India and Bangladesh in most such metrics.

Bangladesh have done a phenomenal job with regards to empowering women.

definition: age 15 and over can read and write

Bangladesh:
total population: 72.8%
male: 75.6%
female: 69.9% (2016 est.)

Pakistan:
total population: 57.9%
male: 69.5%
female: 45.8% (2015 est.)

India:
total population: 71.2%
male: 81.3%
female: 60.6% (2015 est.)

Source - https://www.cia.gov/LIBRARY/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/print_2103.html
 
GDP per capita is often considered an indicator of a country's standard of living although this is problematic because GDP per capita is not a measure of personal income.


Top 10 economies by real GDP growth rate in 2018

1. Libya
2 Ethiopia
3 Macau
4 Ghana
5 Guinea
6 Nepal
7 Ivory Coast
8 Armenia
9 Turkey
10 Bangladesh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate



Top 10 by GDP (PPP) per capita

1. Qatar
2. Macau
3. Luxembourg
4 Singapore
5 Brunei
6 Ireland
7 Norway
8 Kuwait
9 United Arab Emirates
10 Switzerland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita


I think the intelligent among us realise that context is everything. Just because an economy is in the top 10, it doesn't mean the economy is larger or more powerful. As one can see, the list of countries above have far smaller economies, and population, that the top 5 economies in the world.

In the end the only figure that matters is the purchasing power in one's pocket once expenses are subtracted from income - i.e standard of living.
 
Happy for BD. Hope they get a leader soon who will make BD a truly great nation and not just a pawn of India.
 
GDP and GDP growth is usually quoted in real terms - i.e. inflation is accounted for. It is the growth in GDP in excess of inflation. So a GDP growth rate of 7% actually means 12% growth in price or nominal terms (assuming inflation is 5%). 7% of that growth is real - i.e. coming from an actual increase in output and 5% is artificial arising simply from a rise in prices. GDP growth is usually measured in constant LCUs (local currency units) - 2010 Bangladeshi Takas for example to account for inflation.

Thanks.

I am out of BD for 6 years now - I do to travel to home once every year. Can't tell about index, but what I can say is what ever the methods, there is a massive, massive change in the lifestyle of village people - good number of households has electricity, mobile phone, some home electronic appliances, and even a motorcycle. And, almost every adult female is contributing - either through garments, or NGO or some cooperatives;and there is self enforced family planning; even illiterate village moms are not interested for more than 2 kids, neither there is desperation for a boy, and getting daughter married before 16. English quality & standard has gone to drains, but most people now can read/write in Bangla; and the communication network is unbelievably good - almost every house has quick access to nearest district town - almost every village has a paved road connected to nearest town and local bus/tempo service runs for 18-19 hours a day.
 
Turning to history provides some context. In the colonial era, peasants in Bengal suffered from economic impoverishment, which was especially acute in the inter-war period. Fragmentation in landholdings, ecological catastrophes and rising indebtedness lead to the immiseration of many. According to the economic historian, Tirthankar Roy, in Bengal acreage cropped per head was already among the lowest globally in 1891 and fell further by 80% between 1891 and 1941. It was in these circumstances that Muslim peasants - and the majority of the peasants in Bengal were Muslims - enthusiastically supported the Pakistan demand in large numbers. Social justice was a prominent theme in Muslim League appeals throughout British India, but was particularly pronounced in Bengal in the context of rising destitution and misery.

With the coming of Pakistan, as ‘peasant utopia’ failed to materialise, disillusionment with the Pakistan state became apparent. The concentration of power in the hands of the bureaucracy and army - institutions with a nominal presence of Bengalis - was another source of disenchantment. The economic policies, especially during the years of the Ayub Khan administration further intensified grievances. Foreign aid was a key component in the Ayub years, driving large infrastructure projects. But following the conditions of the donors and operating in an environment where concepts of ‘functional inequality,’ ‘social utility of greed’ and ‘trickle down’ were embraced by some economists, much of the aid was directed to West Pakistan, which was more favourably endowed with land and commercial power.

In the paintings of Zainul Abedin, an East Pakistani/Bangladeshi artist, art historian Iftikhar Dadi identifies an “abiding concern for the local, the rural, and the folk.” As Dadi notes, Abedin’s “choice of motifs” represented a “pointed bypassing of modernisation, protesting the continued underdevelopment and cultural marginalisation of East Pakistan throughout the 1950s and 1960s.” Rather than being interested in ‘pictures of Muslim glory’ which occupied a central place in the paintings of the celebrated Pakistani artist, Abdur Rahman Chughtai, “Abedin painted rural peasants and bulls emerging as labouring bodies, as heroic figures who are frequently engaged in struggle.”

When the Pakistan era came to an end in 1971, Bangladesh still stood in an economically precarious position, with an expanding population but stagnant agricultural output. Against this background, the economic performance subsequently has certainly been remarkable.

A recent book by Naomi Hossain (The Aid Lab), has argued that the key event was the devastating 1974 famine, which created a normative framework or ‘moral economy’ between the citizens and the rulers. In aftermath of the famine, the ruling elite believed that their political fortunes - indeed very survival - rested on their ability to provide ‘human development and basic social protection’ to its citizens which institutionalised protection policies against natural disasters and “helped protect key policies to transform the population through health and education against political competition and corruption, brought poor rural women to the forefront of development, and ensured the elite policed themselves to deliver these essential public goods.”

Paving the way for greater social expenditure, literacy rates for women went up which in turn led to a decline in fertility rates. Additionally, the ruling class pursued pro-market, pro-poor development policies “in return for resources from the international community” widening the scope for NGO experimentation and action.

We should also note the green revolution in the late 1970s that was crucial in increasing the supply of crops. The growth in the textile industry (helped greatly by cheapness of labour, tariff free export facilities to many countries and government policies) has also been largely responsible for the industrial growth since 1990. That this all occurred in a context where Bangladesh was relatively insulated from global politics, ensured development policies did not become entangled and eclipsed by geopolitical considerations.


 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My thoughts on Bangladesh’s economic progress relative to India/Pakistan, in response to <a href="https://twitter.com/AtifRMian?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AtifRMian</a>'s question posed to me. 13-tweet thread follows.[Warning: these thoughts are of Twitter-length & depth, not the level at which academics normally engage on such complex questions] <a href="https://t.co/b0y1BVhRH9">https://t.co/b0y1BVhRH9</a></p>— Mushfiq Mobarak (@mushfiqmobarak) <a href="https://twitter.com/mushfiqmobarak/status/1127716623081717762?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بنگلہ دیش کیper capita GDP اس وقت 1600 ڈالر ہےجو کہ 2030 میں 5700 ڈالر تک پہنچ جائے گی۔بنگلہ دیش پاکستان کا ہی حصہ تھا جو کہ ہم سے 1971 میں آزاد ہوا۔انہوں نےآخر ایسا کیا کیا کہ وہ ایک ابھرتی معیشت اور ہم معاشی دیوالیے کے قریب پہنچ گئے۔ زرا سوچیے ہم سے تو ایتھوپیا بھی آگے نکل گیا۔ <a href="https://t.co/Uh3vsJypjL">pic.twitter.com/Uh3vsJypjL</a></p>— Fakhar Durrani (@FrehmanD) <a href="https://twitter.com/FrehmanD/status/1127591817745137668?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My thoughts on Bangladesh’s economic progress relative to India/Pakistan, in response to <a href="https://twitter.com/AtifRMian?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AtifRMian</a>'s question posed to me. 13-tweet thread follows.[Warning: these thoughts are of Twitter-length & depth, not the level at which academics normally engage on such complex questions] <a href="https://t.co/b0y1BVhRH9">https://t.co/b0y1BVhRH9</a></p>— Mushfiq Mobarak (@mushfiqmobarak) <a href="https://twitter.com/mushfiqmobarak/status/1127716623081717762?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Interesting twitter thread - and to think they were significantly poorer than West Pakistan at the time of their independence.
 
Rajdeep shared in another thread that Bangladesh's economy is bigger than Pakistan's in size.

If true this is rapid rise from Bangladesh in last 10 years.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] please shed some more light and how things are shaping up for next decade
 
Bangladesh is a perfect template where investing in people, keeping a check on radicalism and religious fundamentalism and staying secular and not getting involved in other affairs can do wonders even if you have a lot of inherent problems. No wonder they have progressed.
 
^ Well said. Bangladesh has its priorities right and Pakistan could learn a lot from them. Put your head down and focus on your economy, your own people instead of yapping away about another country's territory.

But for that, great humility and maturity is needed, something the leadership in Pakistan has never had.
 
^ Well said. Bangladesh has its priorities right and Pakistan could learn a lot from them. Put your head down and focus on your economy, your own people instead of yapping away about another country's territory.

But for that, great humility and maturity is needed, something the leadership in Pakistan has never had.

Yeah it’s ironic that Pakistani leadership has always considered Bengalis and Indians (Hindus) as inferior race etc. However it never moved beyond that thought process. USA these days on a lesser extent or in the past even Nazi germany or WW2 Japan or even in the past European countries that ruled the entire world always had this superiority feeling but they channeled it towards innovation etc and strives to prove their superiority instead of telling themselves daily of their superiority and then searching for similarly “superior” friends to bail them out.
 
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