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Decent squad. Hopefully BD can beat the weaker teams like PAK, SL,AFG and pull off an upset against SA as well.
Don't think pak is in the same bracket as SL and AFG. But oh well you're indian so it's expected.
Where is taskin ahmed ?
Predictable squad, no surprise. May be one pacer short in position of Mosaddek, but otherwise it’s the best available squad.
With this team....there must be no excuses this time around. Should win the trophy with ease.
Predictable squad, no surprise. May be one pacer short in position of Mosaddek, but otherwise it’s the best available squad.
Predictable squad, no surprise. May be one pacer short in position of Mosaddek, but otherwise it’s the best available squad.
What do you reckon Bangladesh chances vs Pakistan??
No domestic uncut diamonds BD could have taken to the World CUp as surprise?
Decent squad. Hopefully BD can beat the weaker teams like PAK, SL,AFG and pull off an upset against SA as well.
No domestic uncut diamonds BD could have taken to the World CUp as surprise?
Very decent squad, inclusion of a leg spinner would have made this lineup really strong.
There is Yasir Ali who is averaging 100 in the ongoing domestic tournament after a BPL where he was one of the highest run scorers , he might be tested in the Tri series in Ireland before the world cup as they have a 17 member squad going there with him in it. Nayeem Hasan the 18 year old off spinner is also going there to get some games against Ireland and West Indies.
“Not sure why my fellow posters need to act so goody goody and give diplomatic responses like "BD is a good team but they have slim chance to reach top 4" or "It depends on how Tamim bats" or "BD surely can surprise few teams" etc etc.
I was reading all the posts and not a single honest reply. The fact is BD is a rubbish cricket team and have got absolutely ZERO chance what so ever in WC 2019. This should have been the unanimous response. Trust me...many posters knows this already but somehow try to act diplomatic and dont call spade a spade.
A team that has yet to win even a tri series in their history is dreaming about world cup semi final spot? Lol. They would do good even if they win 1 game.
#FACT“
This was your post few days back in another - what make you change your thought so quickly? It’s a genuine question & I am asking you seriously.
Lol. He's so clearly being sarcastic.
Taskin not included in the squad?![]()
“Not sure why my fellow posters need to act so goody goody and give diplomatic responses like "BD is a good team but they have slim chance to reach top 4" or "It depends on how Tamim bats" or "BD surely can surprise few teams" etc etc.
I was reading all the posts and not a single honest reply. The fact is BD is a rubbish cricket team and have got absolutely ZERO chance what so ever in WC 2019. This should have been the unanimous response. Trust me...many posters knows this already but somehow try to act diplomatic and dont call spade a spade.
A team that has yet to win even a tri series in their history is dreaming about world cup semi final spot? Lol. They would do good even if they win 1 game.
#FACT“
This was your post few days back in another - what make you change your thought so quickly? It’s a genuine question & I am asking you seriously.
They might even beat India like they did in 2007
They have no chance of that . India are too strong for them even in Asia let alone outside.
What do you reckon Bangladesh chances vs Pakistan??
Not sure about others but my reply was a perfectly honest one. I think you can easily beat Afghan s, Lanka and ,given that a few things go right, you should be able to beat SA and PAK as well.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] pure bowler or all rounder in that #8 i.e Saifuddin or Jayed? Where Sarkar might play at the top or somewhere in middle? Hope he is not picked as an allrounder.
Can mods move this to BD squad annouced? I thought I posted there.
I know.
We are at a stage now when if few things click on the day, we’ll be able to compete with every team. It’s in UK, but ODI conditions have standardised in last few years - more or less it’s balanced everywhere.
Still, apart from the 3 teams below us in ranking, any win will be considered as an upset, probably against WIN as well in UK. I think, we’ll win an unexpected odd game, but chances are equally high that we might blow the game against AFGs.
SF isn’t a realistic expectation, rather we probably is in better position to spoil someone’s party. The squad is good though - the best possible that we can put now.
Yes. This is going to be an interesting World Cup for sure. I agree that this is the best World Cup squad for BD considering that Taskin hasn't been the same since his remedial work. Also i remember discussing with you and [MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION] that Sabbir should be in the World Cup squad and looks like BCB have gone with him. He's quite a talent and it's the right time to show the world how good he is. There is a distinct lack of pace but I think pace is a bit overrated in white ball cricket these days. Only problem will be Mash bowling at 75 mph which is a bit too slow for my liking on these wickets but as long as they , collectively, bowl good line and length and the fielding/Liton back them up, they should do OK.
I think, in most games (Not sure about the D/N fixture) the playing XI will be
1. Tamim
2. Liton/Mithun (If Mithun plays SOumya opens & Sabbir bats at 3)
3. Soumya
4. Mushi
5. Shakib
6. Mahmud
7. Sabbir
8. Miraz
9. Saifuddin
10. Mash
11. Mustafiz
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Had Taskin been fit, I think Saif would have struggled to find a place in playing XI, but now they'll go for a batting heavy unit with Soumya bowling few overs. This actually limits the squad in 2 aspects - 1. the bowling is too much compromised & 2. It makes the combination quite predictable - that XI will force Mash to bowl first regardless of condition, if he wins the toss and it makes other teams' tactics quite simple.
Shakib is extremely important for this XI, because not only he is No. 5 batsman, but he is probably the best bowler for the WC as well. If we are to do anything over expected, Shakib & Mushi have to play every game and have to be at their peak - these 2 makes the XI a 13 men team actually.
I think, in most games (Not sure about the D/N fixture) the playing XI will be
1. Tamim
2. Liton/Mithun (If Mithun plays SOumya opens & Sabbir bats at 3)
3. Soumya
4. Mushi
5. Shakib
6. Mahmud
7. Sabbir
8. Miraz
9. Saifuddin
10. Mash
11. Mustafiz
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Had Taskin been fit, I think Saif would have struggled to find a place in playing XI, but now they'll go for a batting heavy unit with Soumya bowling few overs. This actually limits the squad in 2 aspects - 1. the bowling is too much compromised & 2. It makes the combination quite predictable - that XI will force Mash to bowl first regardless of condition, if he wins the toss and it makes other teams' tactics quite simple.
Shakib is extremely important for this XI, because not only he is No. 5 batsman, but he is probably the best bowler for the WC as well. If we are to do anything over expected, Shakib & Mushi have to play every game and have to be at their peak - these 2 makes the XI a 13 men team actually.
i think in day games Mash should opt to bat first if he wins toss. A pitch that has already seen 50 overs is likely to aid BD spinners better. D/N matches are harder to predict. Depends on whether there would be swing under lights or not. If there isn't any swing, batting second is always the better option since the ball comes on to the bat better. I actually think Shakib has declined as a cricketer somewhat from what he was 3-4 years ago. Key will be Mushfiq , Tamim and the form of Sowmya and Liton. With Sabbir and Mahmudullah, that batting lineup can actually target 300 + scores batting first and that's where BD have to play to their strengths.
That Liton and Soumya at 2 and 3 can be pretty risky for BD. They need to understand that wickets ard more important than few flamboyant shots.
I would go with all pace bowlers. No matter how many batsman BD plays limit is max 280. So you might as well go with enough bowlers to defend that. We cant be allowing Soumya and Sabbir to bowl, Bairstow, Butler, Hales would be licking their lips at the thought of that.
8. Mashrafe
9. Jayed
10. Rubel
11. Fizz
Pakistan are not in the same bracket. But BD have higher chances of beating SA and PAK among top 6 teams which is why I mentioned both of them.
First round exit coming
I thought you had predicted a Final loss to England only about few days back - what is the reason of this U turn, didn't like the squad?
From favourite for 2019 worldcup to be underdog against team like bd .One thing is clear now you are troll and cannot be taken seriously
Many "experts" have failed in there prediction i am no body so i can afford one
A very good squad actually. According to recent history, they will enter the world cup as 2nd best Asian team. They will need to cope with the pressure of expectations too as this is their best WC squad and their performance has been good too, at least in Asia.
Other teams will not take them lightly in this world cup.
WC shouldn’t be the place for that. After 2015 WC, most of the players picked were in teens or in their early 20s, targeting 2019, therefore this is best whatever we have, may be Taskin should have been picked for Mosaddek.
This is actually among one of the youngest squad in WC. Tamim, Shakib, Mushi, Mahmud started career almost as schoolboy for an emerging team, hence they look veteran, otherwise all of them are still in their early 30s. After the WC, we'll see a revamp again with a new Captain & deputy.
I have no questions about the squad & I do realize that BCB has unofficially implemented the selection process that I always suggest - BCB’s CS is a dummy to read out the names, this squad is picked by Rhodes & Mash.
Very good batting unit but fast bowling will be a problem. This playing XI should be capable of beating Pakistan and other minnows.
Very high.What do you reckon Bangladesh chances vs Pakistan??
For all those who think Ban will beat pak...
You'll get a rude reality check in the WC.
Lost to Bangladesh C in Asia cup. Bangladesh has far superior batting. Their bowling is weak but then you don’t need a world class bowling to dismiss Pakistani batsmen. 1 run for 4 wickets against West Indies comes to mind.
A team like Bangladesh doesn't have a "c" team.
Lol at the Far superior batting.
How many of them average over 50?
I am yet to be convinced this squad is the best one to win on the road - just going by recent away results. Sometimes throwing in couple of surprises helps in two ways: makes the current squad get less comfortable in their spots and also gives something new to the opposition to think about.
I don't know BD cricket enough to comment who should replace - but definitely think fresh thinking even with existing squad like NZ in 92 or Sri Lanka in 96 or WI in T20 2016 should help.
Predictions are there to be missed, otherwise every "expert" will become God. I actually asked the question in regard to your post No. 48. Let me repeat it again, if you can read between the lines (not much expertise required for that ...)
From favourite for 2019 worldcup to be underdog against team like bd .One thing is clear now you are troll and cannot be taken seriously.
The early post was sacrasm .but i know where you coming from and why you are making personal remarks too bad your emotional lines did not help you to delete one of my post ,For a note - a team can be favorite in a tournament, and still can be underdog in one particular game, those are not mutually exclusive .... Spain won 2010 WC after losing to Switzerland.
But, I am not sure how a team can be favorite to win the cup and then do it by exiting in 1st round? It can indeed happen - there has been a change of situation in between your "nobody" comments - the BD squad is announced in the mean time. That's why I thought, you didn't like the squad.... can't help much in that regard, this is what we have and don't have much left in tank to bring a dozen rabbits (read talunt) from hat either.
Abu Jayed is a new pacer and myself having very little clue - FC batting average of 7.5 suggests, he is picked as a specialist bowler; though List A average of 31 doesn't give confidence about how special he is.
I think, the bowling resources are as such that, throwing couple of new faces might back fire. Apart from Shakib, other bowlers are quite young actually and they can carry till 2023 WC - age won't be a factor. We could have thrown couple of new batsmen, but there is no reason for that, batting isn't the weakest point.
NZ or SRL didn't throw any new player to be honest, rather they adopted a new tactics with existing players - that is something we also can do. In fact we tried few as well - opening bowling with Miraz & Saifuddin, playing Sabbir at 3, opening with Liton, playing Soumya at 7, sending Miraz as opener, keeping with Liton and play Mushi as specialist bat, sending Mash at 5 as pinch hitter .... BD actually has done several experiments in bi-laterals or fringe tournaments in last few years. We might see some tactical changes, but don't think there is any scope of new players. It's not about availability of players only, rather this squad is built over 4 years targeting this WC; there is no point changing the formation at 11th hour, unless there is any exceptional talent - there is a 18 years old kid Nayeem, and had this WC been in Asia, he would have definitely made it. Last winter was final time to experiment and they did try few new players from Asia cup to WIN series, but this is what it is now. After WC, we'll see a massive phasing out and the start of next 4 years' cycle.
BD team may not look like world beaters but they can cause a few upsets and they probably fancy their chances of victory against WI , Pakistan and SL very high playing their normal cricket.
Beating any out of Aus/Eng/Ind/NZ might require an extraordinary effort by atleast a couple of BD players on that day but it is capable in that too.
Afghanistan are their banana peel team though
I'd say they'd fancy their chances against nz as well. They beat them in the CT17 as well.
Though I am a well wisher of BD cricket...its not looking that great for the powerhouse team against NZ tbh. In the recently concluded series NZ absolutely mauled them with 8 wickets, 8 wickets and 88 runs respectively in 3 ODIs.
https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/2741/bangladesh-tour-of-new-zealand-2019/matches
From a Pakistan viewpoint, 4 year planning cycles just don't happen here. So I will be watching BD with interest. Very much interested in how Shakib comes to the party.
Indeed you are a well wisher, that’s why despite .... you know, still you are sticking to BD cricket related threads. The warmth of your heart & thickness of skin is indeed appropriating. And, unlike the dishonest posters that you mentioned in other thread, I do believe your integrity- an honest soul.
Coming to NZ - they are among top contenders for SF spot, so obviously they are starting as favourites against us - that’s why it’s “fancying” the chance, not being favourites, which I think doesn’t need to look that great.
However, as a well wisher you must know that Kiwis are running 0-7 against BD at opposite ebb, that’s in our home. But, I do understand that condition in in Bangladesh and UK isn’t same, rather closer to NZ, therefore they definitely start as favourites. Still, in UK (IRL), we have met 3 times and the result is even for me surprisingly 2-1 in our favour, which must be encouraging for a well wisher like you.
A team like Bangladesh doesn't have a "c" team.
Lol at the Far superior batting.
How many of them average over 50?
A Bangladeshi team without Tamim, Shakib, and Sabir is their C team.
I will take the 50+ averages of Pakistani batsman with a grain of salt. The same batting lineup could not chase 240 vs Bangladesh and barely chased 258 in the last over against Afghanistan.