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MRSN said:
I just can't believe how Daesh can become so powerful within just few years. If anyone thinks it's just Islamists he's a fool. They are part of a bigger scheme. These people are just a tool used by bigger players of this dirty game.
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This is what I have suspected for a long time too.
 
javiersuka said:
ISIS has many supporters in Tamil Nadu and South India in general.

ISIS has attracted educated Youth in India, unlike the illiterate ones that are expected to join these groups.
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the last thing muslims in india would want is to have some idiots joing isis.
 
Thivagar said:
I don't expect ISIS support in TN but heard Kerala already has some issues and I'm very surprised cause Kerala is very multi religion state and is the most educated state in India, hard to digest that. Hyderabad had some issues from time from what I heard, I don't even wanna talk about Ahmedabad and Gujarat. If Mahinda was in power, ISIS might have gained some some support in SL, but I don't SL will have any ISIS support enough to scare the authorities. SL has various Muslims, they themselves are divided. There are Muslims who speak Tamil but the script is in Arabic and don't claim to be Tamil, there are Muslims who read and write in Tamil and claim they are Tamil, there are Muslims who lost their native language due to mixing so they speak both language with mixture of everything. There are Arabic, Sindh Muslims who speak their own language, also speak either Tamil or Sinhala based on where they live or what tv programs they watch and then there are Malay muslims like Dilshan who is a Malay-Sinhala mix, you can see that from his South East Asian looks. It is highly confusing, don't think they are serious enough or have been bullied enough to "rise up".
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The terrorists who massacred people in Dhaka were not poor kids. They were all rich kids belonging to affluent families and highly educated. Apparently one of those was educated in a university in Malaysia as well. Affluence or education doesn't matter. All these terror outfits do is recruit teenagers or those under 25 who are disillusioned with life or don't know what to do with theirs. They just brainwash them with a few verses for justifying their sick intentions and use them as pawns for their agenda.

A few people believe that ISIS losing ground in the middle east pushes them to plot frantic terror attacks like the Turkey one and Dhaka one in an attempt to stay relevant. Some others believe that they have already bases and are trying to spread further. Only a few months ago, an ISIS module was destroyed in Roorkee and Hyderabad in India and now there is already intelligence information that attacks may happen in Assam or Bengal with the help of JMB (a radical outfit). Intelligence is doing a good job till now but the threat still looms large. All it takes is a few nutjobs because they neither care about their life nor about others'.
 
hussain123 said:
the last thing muslims in india would want is to have some idiots joing isis.
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Yes, an overwhelming majority of Indian muslims are moderate and liberal muslims who are no different to me or you and go about with their everyday lives.

But the problem is the fringe element who are present in every religion. They should be curbed, counselled and deradicalised. All they need is for someone to lead them in a good direction.
 
street cricketer said:
Yes, an overwhelming majority of Indian muslims are moderate and liberal muslims who are no different to me or you and go about with their everyday lives.

But the problem is the fringe element who are present in every religion. They should be curbed, counselled and deradicalised. All they need is for someone to lead them in a good direction.
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i concur with this.responsibility doesn't end at denouncing them as unislamic or a terrorist organisation by the religious organisation and leaders,there needs to be some concrete,concentrated efforts im this regard.though i feel there is a cunning deliberate effort to link every bad stuff with isis in connivance with some jingoistic media channels.with UP elections fought on polarising grounds a tinge of isis in that atmosphere i fear would start a cycle of riots;like u said there is always fringe waiting to be manipulated.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
Stick to the topic and stop posting your gibberish, now is not the time. If you have nothing better to contribute, don't post at all. Joy Bangla, Joy Bongubondhu.
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This is on topic.Mind your own thing.And if its of any consolation the same culture is dying here as well.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
Stick to the topic and stop posting your gibberish, now is not the time. If you have nothing better to contribute, don't post at all. Joy Bangla, Joy Bongubondhu.
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And my grandparents migrated from east bengal so i know what i am talking.We still have family friends in BD.

The bengali culture of tolerance is dead in BD and dying in WB.We as a ethnicity are on the verge of extinction and i say WE as bengalis.

Kolkata hasnt had a terror attack but after Dhaka the threat level has gone through the roof here officially.Like it or not BD And WB were never on terror high alert because Bengalis by nature were considered peace loving and tolerant that is gone.The coming decades wont know bengalis as we know it.

And this is as a bengali to a bengali.Not as an Indian to a BDeshi
 
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cricketjoshila said:
And my grandparents migrated from east bengal so i know what i am talking.We still have family friends in BD.

The bengali culture of tolerance is dead in BD and dying in WB.We as a ethnicity are on the verge of extinction and i say WE as bengalis.

Kolkata hasnt had a terror attack but after Dhaka the threat level has gone through the roof here officially.Like it or not BD And WB were never on terror high alert because Bengalis by nature were considered peace loving and tolerant that is gone.The coming decades wont know bengalis as we know it.

And this is as a bengali to a bengali.Not as an Indian to a BDeshi
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I don't care if your grandparents came from god knows where. If you want to discuss about culture open another thread. Here let's pay respect to the victims here and keep discussion to how Bangladesh as a nation can tackle this kind of situation? How can we prevent it in the future?

What's done is done? Even this post that i am writing to you is meaningless, you are just another guy across the border who enjoy Bangladesh's suffering.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Were these people local?Or foreign fighters?
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LOL they were all Bangladeshis, all were students from North South University. One of the best private universities in Bangladesh, not to mention they were all from the Islamic Club in North South. North South has produced more killers than talents.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
LOL they were all Bangladeshis, all were students from North South University. One of the best private universities in Bangladesh, not to mention they were all from the Islamic Club in North South. North South has produced more killers than talents.
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Didn't some of them study abroad?
 
GenericBrand said:
Didn't some of them study abroad?
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I am talking about the terrorists bro. Among the victims, Two Bangladeshi students used to study at Emory University, Abinta was an American citizen while Faraaz was the grandson of a big shot in Bangladesh, and the third victims was an older woman who was well educated and a former employee of Grameen also worked for various multi corporation agencies.
 
GenericBrand said:
Didn't some of them study abroad?
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What I am hearing about the killers is quite shocking, they all came from good families. :facepalm:One of the north South student, he left his house and was missing from january. I will keep you updated. Stay safe bro, don't go out in restaurants and don't even go to the atm, I am suppose to be flying to NY on the 19th, I will cancel my ticket, I am staying home for a year.
 
MenInG said:
No the nationalities and religions only mean anything to those wish to malign a particular country or religion.
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MenIng, no that is not correct. All of them is a part of the problem, you cannot keep on brushing things under the rug, that ostrich mentality has led enemies at the gate.
Yes they have a leader who they follow, yes they have a group that gave them training and supplied weapons, yes they have a planner who planned and funded things, yes they have a religion for which they have killed innocent non muslims, yes they follow a twisted version of islam which makes them kill man and women, yes they have a nationality for which they let go of their own kind.

All of them, including twisted version of religion has everything to do with it. If you dont address that then you will only keep on killing them or letting them kill you and new ones will replace the old pigs, you have to address the main ideological issue.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
What I am hearing about the killers is quite shocking, they all came from good families. :facepalm:One of the north South student, he left his house and was missing from january. I will keep you updated. Stay safe bro, don't go out in restaurants and don't even go to the atm, I am suppose to be flying to NY on the 19th, I will cancel my ticket, I am staying home for a year.
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No i meant the terrorists, think I read somewhere one of them studied in Malaysia. I don't live there so I'm good, but my uncle and his family was quite the frequent guest at that specific restaurant.
 
The person who took the video is most probably a foreign national but this was indeed a very brave move. Bangladesh Army is really a professional institution. I have never seen video like this! It feels like I am seeing glimpse of action from a hollywood movie.
 
I hope it's not India next. :facepalm: Hopefully Sheikh Hasina will brutally suppress the Daesh and other Islamist elements and hang them publicly to send a strong message to such groups and their "sympathisers"
 
They look like educated and well fed independent brats. I wonder what you have to do to brain wash these kind of kids. We blame uneducated people when they do such a thing but these guys look like thinking people.

These kids had entire life ahead of them and could have done many things in their lives and had a family but instead they chose the path to hell and killed many innocent people just in the name of islam.

It must have taken more then just telling them about the mythical 72s, that brainwashing system needs to be identified and eliminated. And entire world must cooperate in weeding out these pigs.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
LOL they were all Bangladeshis, all were students from North South University. One of the best private universities in Bangladesh, not to mention they were all from the Islamic Club in North South. North South has produced more killers than talents.
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At least you accept that they were locals . i can see BD getting rid of this menance sooner then others as you guys arent afraid of the realities. You can only cure something if you dignose it right.
 
Lords said:
At least you accept that they were locals . i can see BD getting rid of this menance sooner then others as you guys arent afraid of the realities. You can only cure something if you dignose it right.
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They were all Bangladeshi citizens and most were well educated, one graduated from Monash University (Melbourne). Another from Monash University (Malaysia), another one from Scholastica ( a well known high school). This has been shocking, I thought they were Madrasa students, but they all came from English School backgrounds. Quite rich too, so I am still puzzled.
 
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Saeed said:
I think they missed an I from ISIS?
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Not sure but currently ISI being probed as per sources from Seikh Haseena's ministry. And trust me I would not be surprised if it turns out to be the case. BD recently developed a very strong deplomatic relation with India. May be an offence to retaliate that by Jammat? Who knows.

But I would not discount ISI easily...especially given their history.

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Indian_Supporter said:
Not sure but currently ISI being probed as per sources from Seikh Haseena's ministry. And trust me I would not be surprised if it turns out to be the case. BD recently developed a very strong deplomatic relation with India. May be an offence to retaliate that by Jammat? Who knows.

But I would not discount ISI easily...especially given their history.

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Terrorists were ISIS supporters and ISIS claimed the responsibility. As if Indian media and Sheikh ul deflector has never blamed Pakistan before for their problems.
 
Saeed said:
Terrorists were ISIS supporters and ISIS claimed the responsibility. As if Indian media and Sheikh ul deflector has never blamed Pakistan before for their problems.
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Maybe you are right and as of now nothing can be proved. But I dnt see a reason why ISIS would attack Bangladesh. However I can see plenty of reasons why ISI/Jaamat would. Logically speaking.

This attack has startling similarities to Mumbai in 2008 which was carried by ISI. Hostage foreign nationals...ask them to read verses of quran...anyone who can being freed...else killed. Same protocol followed then and same now. ISI then... who now?

Lets wait and see what this probe brings out.

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Ashraful_Rox said:
They were all Bangladeshi citizens and most were well educated, one graduated from Monash University (Melbourne). Another from Monash University (Malaysia), another one from Scholastica ( a well known high school). This has been shocking, I thought they were Madrasa students, but they all came from English School backgrounds. Quite rich too, so I am still puzzled.
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My apologies if someone thinks of this post as insensitive but i am puzzled that why these guys chose BD for the attack if they had to kill foreigners. I mean they all studied outside so they could have made bigger news outside.

BD doesnt seem to be logical choice, i am sure someone is pulling the strings here, these guys are just the pawns
 
Indian_Supporter said:
Maybe you are right and as of now nothing can be proved. But I dnt see a reason why ISIS would attack Bangladesh. However I can see plenty of reasons why ISI/Jaamat would. Logically speaking.

This attack has startling similarities to Mumbai in 2008 which was carried by ISI. Hostage foreign nationals...ask them to read verses of quran...anyone who can being freed...else killed. Same protocol followed then and same now. ISI then... who now?

Lets wait and see what this probe brings out.

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Maybe you are here to look for something you cant find proof for. Suggest you stop trying too hard.

Our Bangladesh posters have clarified the issue but you keep on insisting based upon personal bias.
 
street cricketer said:
The terrorists who massacred people in Dhaka were not poor kids. They were all rich kids belonging to affluent families and highly educated. Apparently one of those was educated in a university in Malaysia as well. Affluence or education doesn't matter. All these terror outfits do is recruit teenagers or those under 25 who are disillusioned with life or don't know what to do with theirs. They just brainwash them with a few verses for justifying their sick intentions and use them as pawns for their agenda.

A few people believe that ISIS losing ground in the middle east pushes them to plot frantic terror attacks like the Turkey one and Dhaka one in an attempt to stay relevant. Some others believe that they have already bases and are trying to spread further. Only a few months ago, an ISIS module was destroyed in Roorkee and Hyderabad in India and now there is already intelligence information that attacks may happen in Assam or Bengal with the help of JMB (a radical outfit). Intelligence is doing a good job till now but the threat still looms large. All it takes is a few nutjobs because they neither care about their life nor about others'.
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Education does matter. Quality education does. Do professors and school teachers discuss what goes around the world in class ? Do unis and college force you to take few Humanities, History, Social Science courses to help you a become a part of the better future ? Things like these matter. If being "educated" means all you do is talk about course material from start of the class till end of the class, through out the semester means nothing. There is a reason why majority of the foreign isis terrorists are ex "gang members" and school drop outs. I put "gang" in quotation because most of the "gangs" are never respected but pretend they are hard ball, people just get intimidated by their size. Some of the Pakistani and Punjabi "gangs" are known here for that. Lets go back to the topic. So you have dumbos being recruited, then you wonder why educated medical college students get recruited to the west. The educated recruits are loners, never given respects and ignorance. Loners who are often viewed as creepy, weird, and excluded intentionally and unintentionally often look for something to be part of. In comes a mulavi and brain wash them. From what I noticed, most of these mulavis are actually calm and very respectful. Respect is what these loners seek. Generally, majority of the people treat everyone different. Muthupaandi from Ghilli will be treated differently than Surya(jithan Ramesh) from Jithan. If Muthupandi was to ask someone "Hi how is your day going ? " people would be like "WOW HE IS SO NICEE". If Jithan Ramesh was to do the same " People wouldn't go around talking about it since he is a "songy". People will treat them both different based on who is more respectful. This is just an extreme comparison. Muthupaandi and Jithan Ramesh both can be recruited. Muthupandi has a violent tendency and he is also pretty dumb. It will take some time before Jithan Ramesh is recruited, he needs to feel that ISIS is the group that will respect him, treat him well and that he is fighting for a cause to be a hero, which he never was.
 
People need to be humans first.

If only they understood that.

Everything else is secondary :(
 
Bangladesh is finished. Everything that everyone sacrificed and fought for is now dead. Vested interests do not want the country to succeed and live in peace.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bangladeshi ministers know nothing and you know everything.And when did you became the deciding authority of credibility?
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lol these ministers...are same everywhere. They are politicians and what politicians do best is shift the blame to somewhere safe where their party is protected. ISI is prob the soft target here for these politicians...As it was in the case of Mumbai attacks.

When all the pictures and statements from ISIS are proving these were ISIS people then why don't you trust them? Is ISI that strong that it can manage ISIS in Iraq,Syria,Turkey,Afghanistan..and now Bangladesh? ISI is tackling with its own problems. It doesn't have any time for others.

ISIS is just Al-qaida with a different name. They have same job i.e make civil unrest and destroy economies of promising countries. BD was shaping up to be a big threat economy wise..and this is why it's on their target list.

I think India might have just joined these players we talk about who get benefits from such rebel groups. It really helps them that their neighbors Afghanistan,BD,Pakistan are in constant war situation and they take all the investment..:)
 
QazzarFan said:
Bangladesh is finished. Everything that everyone sacrificed and fought for is now dead. Vested interests do not want the country to succeed and live in peace.
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Bangladesh is far from finished, this is extremely sad incident and emotional reaction is understandable, Pakistan has seen far far worse times but things are slightly improving. I don't think religious extremism is such a big problem in Bangladesh, still can't understand how educated people would actually get trapped by ISIS and that too in Bangladesh?
 
IAJ said:
Well Bangladeshi minister has said NDTV is lying so what now?
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Sir that video where he gave the interview was posted on PP.he said what was reported.NDTV reported what he said.Now who is to be blamed?
 
Indian_Supporter said:
As per NDTV, Pakistans ISI is behind this attack in Bangladesh.

http://m.ndtv.com/world-news/paks-i...angladesh-attack-top-official-to-ndtv-1427408

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Indian_Supporter said:
Not sure but currently ISI being probed as per sources from Seikh Haseena's ministry. And trust me I would not be surprised if it turns out to be the case. BD recently developed a very strong deplomatic relation with India. May be an offence to retaliate that by Jammat? Who knows.

But I would not discount ISI easily...especially given their history.

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BD denied it.
 
BD recently contracted Chinese loans-investments in infrastructure worth 100s of millions. The US doesn't want China to extend its Silk Road project, which promises prosperity to the whole of Asia, and though this, both peace and ousting out the US of the region where it has no job apart from fuelling toxic schemes. Expect more "Islamists" to block BD's economic growth and esp. FDIs/economic ties with Japan (look at how many Japanese nationals were killed there... what Japanese have to do with Western imperialists ?).

May Allah help our BD brothers and shield them from the Satanic plans of the Western Leviathan.

Bangladesh has conferred with the Chinese embassy in Dhaka on loans for other rail lines too, including a $4 billion dual track from Dhaka to Chittagong, the largest single railway project in the country.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...gladesh-brings-trains-to-asia-s-longest-beach

Japanese general contractors Obayashi and Shimizu, which won a 90 billion yen ($878 million) contract for a road and bridge connection between Dhaka and Chittagong, have confirmed the safety of all their employees there. Japanese nationals were among those killed in the attack in the capital.

Japan is the biggest aid donor for Bangladesh, having provided more than 1 trillion yen in yen-dominated loans and roughly 470 billion yen in grants as of fiscal 2014. But many businesses from other countries, including software developers, also have expanded into the country.
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http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Eco...sh-terror-attack-may-chill-foreign-investment
 
cricketjoshila said:
But he did allege.Ndtv reported that.
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But they didnt mention in their article that dude said he has NO evidences.

"Pakstan's ISI and Jamaat connection is well known...they want to derail the current government," HT Imam told NDTV, adding "all victims were hacked to death like Jamaat and local terror groups do"

They eaten up that evidence quote. Didn;t they?
 
enkidu_ said:
BD recently contracted Chinese loans-investments in infrastructure worth 100s of millions. The US doesn't want China to extend its Silk Road project, which promises prosperity to the whole of Asia, and though this, both peace and ousting out the US of the region where it has no job apart from fuelling toxic schemes. Expect more "Islamists" to block BD's economic growth and esp. FDIs/economic ties with Japan (look at how many Japanese nationals were killed there... what Japanese have to do with Western imperialists ?).

May Allah help our BD brothers and shield them from the Satanic plans of the Western Leviathan.



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...gladesh-brings-trains-to-asia-s-longest-beach



http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Eco...sh-terror-attack-may-chill-foreign-investment
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so u think this is a big conspiracy by the US in bangladesh? is there any proof to back this up at all.
 
MRSN said:
lol these ministers...are same everywhere. They are politicians and what politicians do best is shift the blame to somewhere safe where their party is protected. ISI is prob the soft target here for these politicians...As it was in the case of Mumbai attacks.

When all the pictures and statements from ISIS are proving these were ISIS people then why don't you trust them? Is ISI that strong that it can manage ISIS in Iraq,Syria,Turkey,Afghanistan..and now Bangladesh? ISI is tackling with its own problems. It doesn't have any time for others.

ISIS is just Al-qaida with a different name. They have same job i.e make civil unrest and destroy economies of promising countries. BD was shaping up to be a big threat economy wise..and this is why it's on their target list.

I think India might have just joined these players we talk about who get benefits from such rebel groups. It really helps them that their neighbors Afghanistan,BD,Pakistan are in constant war situation and they take all the investment..:)
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Yeah keep believing that. The mentioned countries are very innocent nations with the best government and law and order situation, which are being made to struggle by the evil regional supapowaa that is Indyaah:narine
 
India,Afganistan regularly blame ISI for particular or any terrorist attack that happens in their countries. Its nothing new and actually Its fact. Those Pak brothers who living in dream, of course they will deny it. But this is true. There are problems in Balochistan and there will be no wonder If Raw has anything to do with that. Politics is not simple as many people think!


In Bangladesh all home grown terrorist organizations have ties with political party Jamaat e Islam. And ISI has strong relation with Jamaat leaders. I don't know how ruling Awami leaders saying that ISI has anything to do with Dhaka cafe attack. It may true( perhaps this is mere political accusation) or may not.
 
Imran Hasan said:
India,Afganistan regularly blame ISI for particular or any terrorist attack that happens in their countries. Its nothing new and actually Its fact. Those Pak brothers who living in dream, of course they will deny it. But this is true. There are problems in Balochistan and there will be no wonder If Raw has anything to do with that. Politics is not simple as many people think!


In Bangladesh all home grown terrorist organizations have ties with political party Jamaat e Islam. And ISI has strong relation with Jamaat leaders. I don't know how ruling Awami leaders saying that ISI has anything to do with Dhaka cafe attack. It may true( perhaps this is mere political accusation) or may not.
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Jamaat as an organization is dead, moreover ISI has absolutely nothing to gain by assisting such attacks in Bangladesh.
 
It is safe to say that any Muslim that suddenly abandons music and proclaims it haram should be scrutinized for possible support of Da'esh.

Mr. Kabir said the family was unaware that Meer Saameh Mubasher was being radicalized, except, in retrospect, for one clue. The young man had liked to play the guitar, his father said, but about three months before his disappearance, he stopped.

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When Mr. Kabir asked why, his son replied, “Music is not good,” reflecting an Islamist belief that music and dancing are bad influences.

Until now, he had hoped that Mr. Mubasher would reappear one day soon, like some others who disappear into Islamic groups for a time and then come back.
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India,Pakistan,Bangladesh,Nepal,Afghanistan,Lanka bunch of whining countries keep blaming each other for their problems,Myanmar joining the group as the most pathetic one now.

The only saving grace in South Asia is Bhutan,(Nazar na lag jaye)
 
[MENTION=137893]enkidu_[/MENTION] China is not thinking of boom of Asia but only themselves which is understandable,it might benefit Pakistan and maybe Iran a little but no one else would benefit by trade with China and silk route is made for CHINESE alone lets not think it can be other way around.
 
dayvancowboy said:
It is safe to say that any Muslim that suddenly abandons music and proclaims it haram should be scrutinized for possible support of Da'esh.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/04/w...html?ref=world&smid=tw-nytimesworld&smtyp=cur
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“How will we arrange a funeral for him in these circumstances?” he asked in an interview in his family’s apartment in a wealthy neighborhood close to the diplomatic district. “Who will come?”

“I will have to apologize to the whole world on behalf of my son,”



Such shameless stupid children leaving their parents to deal with their actions which no person in sane mind would support, everyday the belief that any religion is a sham just becomes truer and truer there is no two way around it!
 
JaDed said:
India,Pakistan,Bangladesh,Nepal,Afghanistan,Lanka bunch of whining countries keep blaming each other for their problems,Myanmar joining the group as the most pathetic one now.

The only saving grace in South Asia is Bhutan,(Nazar na lag jaye)
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Woow, that some true words.
 
JaDed said:
India,Pakistan,Bangladesh,Nepal,Afghanistan,Lanka bunch of whining countries keep blaming each other for their problems,Myanmar joining the group as the most pathetic one now.

The only saving grace in South Asia is Bhutan,(Nazar na lag jaye)
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theres something wrong with the subcontinent in itself i always feel. Cursed land
 
Hasina has killed Jamat but brought ISIS, I am fearing for the worst this EID. These terrorists were brainwashed in 3 months time, Jamat isn't capable of doing such things.
 
This is sensational stuff. One of the supposed 'hostages' who was in the restaurant with his family is now being speculated to be the mastermind behind the attack. He used to be a teacher in the same department of the same university as one of the attackers. In videos taken from an apartment next to the restaurant he is shown to be in conversation with the attackers and moving around freely. He is even seen to be allowed to go into the balcony of the restaurant and smoke a cigarette. He was released with his family in the morning just before the operation began. He even spoke to the media and released details about the attackers and talked about how the Muslims were being treated well and how the attackers respected his wife because she was wearing a hijab. Question is if they were respectful towards him and his family why did they not release them in the night? Why did he have to be there until after the hostages were killed. Was he the one giving directions? He recently returned to Bangladesh after living in the UK for a few years (not surprising). He is now in custody and being questioned.

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http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/among-bangladesh-hostages-who-were-freed-focus-on-a-teacher-1427822

http://dailyasianage.com/news/23998/who-was-the-bald-person-seen-talking-to-gulshan-militants

http://www.daily-sun.com/post/149280/Suspicion-over-Hasnat-Karim
 
Woah, this issue looks more deeper than we thought.

The guy sure looks like a psychopath of the highest order.
 
This guy and his family are clearly religious. Wonder why they chose this particular restaurant to dine that night during Ramadan. This is an upscale restaurant that very few ordinary Bangladeshis know about. It is frequented mostly by foreigners and only very rich Bangladeshis and most people probably wear western clothing during visits there. An interesting choice of restaurant from a middle-class religious family. Hope the detective branch and intelligence agencies are probing this properly. This guy's phone records, email records should be examined. His family should be cross examined. Maybe one of the kids will spill the beans.
 
Propagandistic Indian news channels
I hope few here will shut up for a while
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Not going by his looks but it seems very unlikely that your former teacher from other country will be dining in the same restaurant you decided to hit.
What are the odds, but still innocent until proven guilty.
 
Isn't it a huge lapse by the BD special forces that the terrorists are roaming about freely on the roof and garden of the establishment without any fear. One would imagine that special forces would have set up snipers at critical vantage points with orders to shoot and kill as soon as any of the assailants are visible.

Now I'm no expert in hostage situation resolution, but from what I have seen in Pakistan the first thing the SSG does is cut electricity and water supply to the establishment and set up snipers.
 
anuk said:
so u think this is a big conspiracy by the US in bangladesh? is there any proof to back this up at all.
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"Conspiracy" is a loaded term, intellectually dwarfing legitimate debates to merely emotional and totally irrational impulses.

Fuelling low-intensity militancy in a country has a dozen of advantages : from geopolitical recuperation to economic pressure, and other financial dividends ; look at this map, and imagine if there was no violence, whether by the State or individuals :

This Map Of US And Russian Arms Sales Says It All

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^"peace in the world " = loss of billions of dollars for the US/Russia. Israel's arm exports to Africa went from $107 million in 2012 to $223 million in 2013 : more than $100 million in barely a year... do you think Israeli officials would cry for African civilian deaths by the 1000s or "thank" Boko Haram ?

http://africasacountry.com/2014/10/israels-arms-exports-to-african-countries-more-than-doubled/

And again I've not detailed the whole geopolitical angle.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Quoting BD govt member.
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Islamabad on Monday rejected Indian media reports alleging Pakistan's involvement in the brutal Dhaka cafe terrorist attack Friday night that left 20 persons, mostly foreigners -- including an Indian girl, killed.

Pakistan's Foreign Office spokesman Nafees Zakaria termed the allegations baseless and the reports as "highly regrettable", Dawn online reported.


A section of India media reported that Bangladesh Information Minister Hasanul Haq and Adviser to Bangladesh Prime Minister Gowher Rizvi blamed Pakistan and its intelligence agency Inter-Services Intelligence for the terror attack in Dhaka on July 1 night.

"These stories are utterly baseless and unfounded. Pakistan strongly rejects such allegations," Zakaria said in a statement. "The reports are irresponsible and provocative."

He said Pakistan deeply appreciates Gowher Rizvi's timely rebuttal of the media reports regarding the attack that was claimed by the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group.

Rizvi contacted the Pakistani High Commissioner in Bangladesh and said the Bangladesh government did not issue any such statement and that the Indian media reports were false.

He also advised the Pakistani High Commissioner to convey this clarification to the Pakistani government in order to avoid any misunderstanding between the two sides.

Pakistan on Saturday condemned the Dhaka terror attack and expressed solidarity with the government and the people of Bangladesh, and offered condolences to the families of those killed in the strike.

Zakaria in a statement said Pakistan condemns terrorism in all its forms and manifestations.

"Being a victim of terrorism itself, Pakistan welcomes Gowher Rizvi's call for global cooperation to fight the menace."

At least seven gunmen -- claimed to be from the IS -- on Friday night stormed the Holey Artisan Bakery, a popular cafe in the Bangladeshi capital, killing 20 hostages. Six of the attackers were killed on Saturday morning in Bangladesh Army's "Operation Thunderbolt", while the seventh was arrested.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...volvement-in-dhaka-attack-116070400874_1.html
 
if desi people used the same amount of brains and creativity in coming up with technological innovations and entrepreneurial ventures as we do in coming up with conspiracy theories then we would be first world right now :facepalm:
 
Indian_Supporter said:
Maybe you are right and as of now nothing can be proved. But I dnt see a reason why ISIS would attack Bangladesh. However I can see plenty of reasons why ISI/Jaamat would. Logically speaking.

This attack has startling similarities to Mumbai in 2008 which was carried by ISI. Hostage foreign nationals...ask them to read verses of quran...anyone who can being freed...else killed. Same protocol followed then and same now. ISI then... who now?

Lets wait and see what this probe brings out.

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aha Detective Arnab Goswami utilizing his detailed experience in identifying Pakistani involvement. How come I'm not surprised with the poster and comment? Some Indians really are utterly obsessed with ISI
 
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Indian_Supporter said:
Maybe you are right and as of now nothing can be proved. But I dnt see a reason why ISIS would attack Bangladesh. However I can see plenty of reasons why ISI/Jaamat would. Logically speaking.

This attack has startling similarities to Mumbai in 2008 which was carried by ISI. Hostage foreign nationals...ask them to read verses of quran...anyone who can being freed...else killed. Same protocol followed then and same now. ISI then... who now?

Lets wait and see what this probe brings out.

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This attack is similar to what al shabab did to the Westgate mall in Kenya. There too people who could recite verses, were let go. By your logic ISI was involved in that too.

i have a theory too. i don't see a reason why ISI would attack bangladesh, but I can see why RAW would, just like they do in Afghanistan and Pakistan. After all they have learnt from the best in deception...Mossad. Raw then...who now?

Sounds ridiculous? Now reflect on your post.
 
Some of the dead body pics are circulating on FB. Absolute gruesome. People slumped over their chairs with sharp blades sticking into their spine. Imagine the hatred these guys have to have the strength to drive a long blade through a person's body.

Apparently, when they realized that commandoes were coming in, they pointed towards each other and said,"We shall meet again in heaven."
 
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