Bangladesh umpire’s wrong ‘no ball’ causes controversy in 3rd T20I against West Indies

[hadi123]

Don't understand why people are using this thread to bash Bangladesh the team. Bangladesh are a solid team these days, people are just bitter and are roasting them. THat's hardly the point of this thread. Bangladesh looked well on course to chase it down but they collapsed after the controversy. I wonder what the uproar would have been had Liton Das gone on to play a match winning innings.

 

[Stalin]

Silly as always from you. Why Liton will walk out? Did Rohit walk out after that dreadful decision of no ball off Rubel in quarter final of WC 2015? It's unpire's decision. It was a no ball and it was a wrong decision by umpire, not off Liton. View attachment 86720
What is the definition of cheating and wrong decision? Millions of times in the history of cricket that umpire wrongly gives a no ball decision. It was clearly a wrong decision. Grow up man,probably you are of teenage . You have a habit to poke at us always and make mountains of molehills.

https://youtu.be/zzXaUZ2H7sI

Is this wrong or cheating?

So a waist height no ball is as conclusive as front foot no ball.

 

[Stalin]

Don't understand why people are using this thread to bash Bangladesh the team. Bangladesh are a solid team these days, people are just bitter and are roasting them. THat's hardly the point of this thread. Bangladesh looked well on course to chase it down but they collapsed after the controversy. I wonder what the uproar would have been had Liton Das gone on to play a match winning innings.

No one's bashing Bangladesh the team. But just see how their pathetic fans are defending this by lame excuses.

 

[hadi123]

No one's bashing Bangladesh the team. But just see how their pathetic fans are defending this by lame excuses.

Read the thread carefully bro. Bangladesh are a decent team, and ironically it's Pakistani fans who are roasting Bangladesh despite them having a great H2H record against us in recent times.

 

[RainMan_]

So a waist height no ball is as conclusive as front foot no ball.

A no ball is a no ball. Whether it's due to overstepping or height hardly matters.

When rohit got favored by the umpires(like always), India were in an average position. Its the life that umpires gifted to rohit allowed India to form partnership's at the back end of the innings and its needless to say rohit was the batsman that glued the whole Indian batting order. If umpires were not so blatantly partial to appease bcci India wouldn't have managed to score above 250 and it would've been an easy chase for Bangladesh

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Silly as always from you. Why Liton will walk out? Did Rohit walk out after that dreadful decision of no ball off Rubel in quarter final of WC 2015? It's unpire's decision. It was a no ball and it was a wrong decision by umpire, not off Liton. View attachment 86720
What is the definition of cheating and wrong decision? Millions of times in the history of cricket that umpire wrongly gives a no ball decision. It was clearly a wrong decision. Grow up man,probably you are of teenage . You have a habit to poke at us always and make mountains of molehills.

https://youtu.be/zzXaUZ2H7sI

Is this wrong or cheating?

That was a 50:50 call as evident from your picture. Also the umpires in that game was non Indians. Here a perfectly legal ball being called a no-ball. And its not the only 1st time, that umpire called 2 no-balls in the same over for perfectly legal deliveries. Its quite aparent, that BCB umpires were deliberately cheating to win the T20 tournament and improve their t20 rankings (which is below Afg at present).

Open your eyes, more you defend this blatant cheating...more people will mock your country. Its not difficult to blame the umpire error and move on, isnt it?

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Don't understand why people are using this thread to bash Bangladesh the team. Bangladesh are a solid team these days, people are just bitter and are roasting them. THat's hardly the point of this thread. Bangladesh looked well on course to chase it down but they collapsed after the controversy. I wonder what the uproar would have been had Liton Das gone on to play a match winning innings.

BD has not beaten India in any format for more than 3 years now. So atleast we Indians are anything but bitter of their team..lol

We are questioning the level of poor umpiring and then few BD posters here defending it. The same set of fans who hacked Virat Kohli's website as a protest for poor umpiring in Asia cup.
#Irony

 

[Varun]

A no ball is a no ball. Whether it's due to overstepping or height hardly matters.

When rohit got favored by the umpires(like always), India were in an average position. Its the life that umpires gifted to rohit allowed India to form partnership's at the back end of the innings and its needless to say rohit was the batsman that glued the whole Indian batting order. If umpires were not so blatantly partial to appease bcci India wouldn't have managed to score above 250 and it would've been an easy chase for Bangladesh

Ah yes, of course. We colluded with a Pakistani umpire to award us a no-ball against sure-shot favourites Bangladesh and sneaked past them on our way to glory.

We'll leave aside the small fact that Aleem Dar raised his hand to signal the no-ball right after it reached the batsman, and the catch occurred many seconds later at the deep mid-wicket position behind him.

But carry on throwing a sook. Just don't die wondering why you don't win any fans / admirers from any part of the world.

 

[Stalin]

A no ball is a no ball. Whether it's due to overstepping or height hardly matters.

When rohit got favored by the umpires(like always), India were in an average position. Its the life that umpires gifted to rohit allowed India to form partnership's at the back end of the innings and its needless to say rohit was the batsman that glued the whole Indian batting order. If umpires were not so blatantly partial to appease bcci India wouldn't have managed to score above 250 and it would've been an easy chase for Bangladesh

Average position?? India were like 200/3 in 37 or so overs. That is an average position. May be for a powerhouse like Bangladesh, it's average. But for us , it's a commanding position. And FYI , no one is trying to please BCCI or anyone in general. You can create a delusional bubble for yourselves and live in it for as long as you want but it does not change the reality.
And Bangladesh ended up scoring 180 something in that match. How did you just assume that they were gonna chase that easily? Once again, delusional bubble my friend. Come out of it.

 

[Stalin]

Ah yes, of course. We colluded with a Pakistani umpire to award us a no-ball against sure-shot favourites Bangladesh and sneaked past them on our way to glory.

We'll leave aside the small fact that Aleem Dar raised his hand to signal the no-ball right after it reached the batsman, and the catch occurred many seconds later at the deep mid-wicket position behind him.

But carry on throwing a sook. Just don't die wondering why you don't win any fans / admirers from any part of the world.

Wow. You have left him with nothing to come back with.
I don't think he's gonna return to this thread.

 

[Varun]

Wow. You have left him with nothing to come back with.
I don't think he's gonna return to this thread.

I usually gun for the underdog, but it's just so difficult to stand up for Bangladesh - even on a day like this when I'm in a pleasant mood...I just can't. One thing leads to another and one of their wisecrack fans show up to help me race into the downward spiral of throwing mud back at them.

 

[Executioner]

I'm a BD sympathizer in general and don't like when Indian and Pakistani posters gang up to bash them unnecessarily but the attitude shown by all the Bangladeshi posters here has been appalling to say the least.

Even the likes of [MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION] who is a good poster in general , have come in the defense of this farce which tells you how deep the problem really is. This way these people would never be able to earn the respect of their rivals and would always be the subject of the mocking from the opposition.

Excuse me but I already mentioned that the quality of umpiring is poor but there is no evidence of us cheating.

And for fans talking about Litton should walk away. Litton has every right to stand his ground. Was he out? Yes he should have been. Should he have walked away? Maybe! But did Rohit Sharma walk away after the no ball in 2015 world Cup? No he didn't, and he had the right to do so. It was given a no ball by umpire and he stood his ground.

 

[hadi123]

Excuse me but I already mentioned that the quality of umpiring is poor but there is no evidence of us cheating.

And for fans talking about Litton should walk away. Litton has every right to stand his ground. Was he out? Yes he should have been. Should he have walked away? Maybe! But did Rohit Sharma walk away after the no ball in 2015 world Cup? No he didn't, and he had the right to do so. It was given a no ball by umpire and he stood his ground.

I think there's a difference between spotting a front foot no ball and waist high no ball. I umpire cricket myself and waist height no balls are quite difficult to make as you have to take into account a few things, such as whether the batsman came down the pitch but front foot no balls are probably the easiest decision for an umpire to make, especially when it cames to international level where you can check with the third umpire if the foot was definitely behind the line or not.

 

[BDfanforever]

I think there's a difference between spotting a front foot no ball and waist high no ball. I umpire cricket myself and waist height no balls are quite difficult to make as you have to take into account a few things, such as whether the batsman came down the pitch but front foot no balls are probably the easiest decision for an umpire to make, especially when it cames to international level where you can check with the third umpire if the foot was definitely behind the line or not.

Umpire made a mistake, why should Liton walk off when he is given not out? We gave them back to back wicket which was a far bigger compensation then Litton walking off.

I challenge you, not a single poor call had a negative impact or decided the outcome in this series. Now compare that to the poor calls made in the Aus vs Ind series.

 

[BDfanforever]

Here Braithwaite arguing with umpires while carrying drinks and WI being 99/5 in the 3rd ODI.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Umpire made a mistake, why should Liton walk off when he is given not out? We gave them back to back wicket which was a far bigger compensation then Litton walking off.

I challenge you, not a single poor call had a negative impact or decided the outcome in this series. Now compare that to the poor calls made in the Aus vs Ind series.

So umpire made the same mistake i.e front foot no ball twice in same over? And you want world to believe that? Its as blatant a cheating as its get.

I am amazed by your calm and mature behavious that umpires do make mistake. Didnt you guys created a rukus after Asia cup blaming umpires, hacked Kohli's website etc? Where was this mature behaviour then that 'Umpires do mistakes'. BTW that Asia cup was clearly out, so it wasnt an umpire error either.

During Nidahas trophy, didnt Shakib Al Hasan took his entire team out protesting against umpiring decision and injustice? Here when the BD umpire was openly cheating, why didnt Shakib speak out against the injustice and ask Liton to walk off?

Lets face it, most people saw what happend last night. If you find any non BD poster says that it was 'just a mistake' by umpire and not deliberate, I wont post in this thread again.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Here Braithwaite arguing with umpires while carrying drinks and WI being 99/5 in the 3rd ODI.

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Shakib did worse this than in SL if you recall. Charged inside dressing room with bat and broke down the dressing room glass with anger. Then came back to field shirtless after the match got over. Entire team (including coach) started dancing Kobra dance to mock SL crowd and team. Remember??

WI are one of the most humble team and Braithwaite is one of the cool guys. Not sure what you trying to imply with his pics, when your team has done worse and almost doing it in every series they play.

 

[BDfanforever]

So umpire made the same mistake i.e front foot no ball twice in same over? And you want world to believe that? Its as blatant a cheating as its get.

I am amazed by your calm and mature behavious that umpires do make mistake. Didnt you guys created a rukus after Asia cup blaming umpires, hacked Kohli's website etc? Where was this mature behaviour then that 'Umpires do mistakes'. BTW that Asia cup was clearly out, so it wasnt an umpire error either.

During Nidahas trophy, didnt Shakib Al Hasan took his entire team out protesting against umpiring decision and injustice? Here when the BD umpire was openly cheating, why didnt Shakib speak out against the injustice and ask Liton to walk off?

Lets face it, most people saw what happend last night. If you find any non BD poster says that it was 'just a mistake' by umpire and not deliberate, I wont post in this thread again.

Yes, BCB bought him so he could cheat in a meaningless T20 game. There I admit it.

Now, can you admit CA also bought umpire Nigel Long as he gave two dubious calls against Pujara in that 2nd innings of 1st test match?

 

[AlizeeFan]

A no ball is a no ball. Whether it's due to overstepping or height hardly matters.

When rohit got favored by the umpires(like always), India were in an average position. Its the life that umpires gifted to rohit allowed India to form partnership's at the back end of the innings and its needless to say rohit was the batsman that glued the whole Indian batting order. If umpires were not so blatantly partial to appease bcci India wouldn't have managed to score above 250 and it would've been an easy chase for Bangladesh

A team which was already going at 5 rpo would have gone below 5 rpo in last 11 overs even with 7 wickets.

How did you came up with that conclusion?

Bangladesh would have been bundled out for 150 if Indian team hadn't managed 250.

 

[BDfanforever]

Shakib did worse this than in SL if you recall. Charged inside dressing room with bat and broke down the dressing room glass with anger. Then came back to field shirtless after the match got over. Entire team (including coach) started dancing Kobra dance to mock SL crowd and team. Remember??

WI are one of the most humble team and Braithwaite is one of the cool guys. Not sure what you trying to imply with his pics, when your team has done worse and almost doing it in every series they play.

Well no one says BD players are angelic. Shakib is a changed man now, he even performed hajj at such a young age. If you don't know what hajj is look it up. At least, unlike other top professional players they havn't tampered with the ball yet.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Yes, BCB bought him so he could cheat in a meaningless T20 game. There I admit it.

Now, can you admit CA also bought umpire Nigel Long as he gave two dubious calls against Pujara in that 2nd innings of 1st test match?

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Honestly, I have nothing to say if you cant distinguish between misreading an lbw and blatantly calling a front foot no ball for a legal delivery. It looks like I am banging my head to the wall.

BTW, this T20 was series decider and no way meaningless. If BD had won the series, their T20 rating points would hv improved. Currently they are rank 10th...below Afg.

 

[Saurav]

A no ball is a no ball. Whether it's due to overstepping or height hardly matters.

When rohit got favored by the umpires(like always), India were in an average position. Its the life that umpires gifted to rohit allowed India to form partnership's at the back end of the innings and its needless to say rohit was the batsman that glued the whole Indian batting order. If umpires were not so blatantly partial to appease bcci India wouldn't have managed to score above 250 and it would've been an easy chase for Bangladesh

India's score was 196/3 after 39 overs

Bangladesh got all out for 193 later

 

[BDfanforever]

Honestly, I have nothing to say if you cant distinguish between misreading an lbw and blatantly calling a front foot no ball for a legal delivery. It looks like I am banging my head to the wall.

BTW, this T20 was series decider and no way meaningless. If BD had won the series, their T20 rating points would hv improved. Currently they are rank 10th...below Afg.

How can a professional veteran like Nigel Long misread a ball that has impact way outside the line? He was clearly bought by Cricket Australia according to your and most these posters logic. Front foot no ball will mostly result in a free hit, that's about it whereas clear cut lbw/caught can even decide the outcome of an entire match.

 

[BaankeJi]

One major incident that people are forgetting is that umpire had given Litton out after watching replay but Litton still stood his ground. You can watch the match replay if you can.
Litton stood his ground maybe thinking that this matter will be taken up by some other people and he will be allowed to continue. He was proven right.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

How can a professional veteran like Nigel Long misread a ball that has impact way outside the line? He was clearly bought by Cricket Australia according to your and most these posters logic. Front foot no ball will mostly result in a free hit, that's about it whereas clear cut lbw/caught can even decide the outcome of an entire match.

You do realize right a bowlers front foot is just infront of the standing umpire. Its very strange to misread a front foot with so close proximity. And yesterday, the umpire not once but twice call the perfectly legal deliveries as no ball in same over. And they were no marginal calls either....good amount of toe was behind the line. If its not deliberate...what is?

 

[Varun]

Well no one says BD players are angelic. Shakib is a changed man now, he even performed hajj at such a young age. If you don't know what hajj is look it up. At least, unlike other top professional players they havn't tampered with the ball yet.

Eh...so?

If anything, I'd be surprised if a cricketer from Bangladesh or Pakistan has not done the Hajj yet. Much less Shakib who has been bouncing around the world for 10+ years worth.

 

[Titan24]

How can a professional veteran like Nigel Long misread a ball that has impact way outside the line? He was clearly bought by Cricket Australia according to your and most these posters logic. Front foot no ball will mostly result in a free hit, that's about it whereas clear cut lbw/caught can even decide the outcome of an entire match.

I think Nigel Long wasnt confused abt it being outside off, he gave it out because he thought pujara wasnt playing a shot as you can clearly see his bat behind the pad.

If shot isnt played then impact doesnt matter.

 

[Varun]

After seeing his (Umpire Tanvir Ahmed's) quote on a Bangladeshi daily:

"In terms of a no-ball, there is always the issue of the foot and the line being close to each other," Tanvir told Prothom Alo. "And if the bowler jumps quickly, there are occasions when it is difficult to spot it. I am new to international cricket. I made a mistake.

"If you look at my past, I don't have a bad history. It was one mistake. Inshallah, I will come back well. Every person has good days and bad days. Yesterday I had a bad day. The match just ended yesterday. I am not focusing on anything else. I am thinking about my mistake."

Source: Prothom Alo of Bangladesh

I think he deserves another chance. He is a budding international umpire who no doubt wants to make the step up to ODIs and Tests someday, and clipping his wings at this time is uncalled for. How many times have we complained about umpires not checking for no-balls unless a wicket falls? At least Tanvir Ahmed kept an eye on the bowler's foot - even if he called wrong on this occasion.

It is highly unlikely that he will make this error again, and let's not continue to pillory him for this. Needless to say, there were no ulterior motives at play here either. May he have a fruitful umpiring career in the years ahead!

 

[Mainul]

That was a 50:50 call as evident from your picture. Also the umpires in that game was non Indians. Here a perfectly legal ball being called a no-ball. And its not the only 1st time, that umpire called 2 no-balls in the same over for perfectly legal deliveries. Its quite aparent, that BCB umpires were deliberately cheating to win the T20 tournament and improve their t20 rankings (which is below Afg at present).

Open your eyes, more you defend this blatant cheating...more people will mock your country. Its not difficult to blame the umpire error and move on, isnt it?

50-50 call! Oh no, so blatant biaseness! If u really believe it then surely u need to consult an opthalmologist.


That picture of Rohit is clearly not a no ball and Rohit was clearly out . As like ,The Das ball was not a no ball and Das was clearly out. That was a poor umpiring. But the Rohit no ball calling was more poorer than the the BD unpire Tanvir. It is easier to to decide no ball due to waist height than to call due to overstepping. As waist height can be seen from the side on to the batsman but overstepping is seen from behind of bowler in parallel direction. If u do umpiring u will no that it is not easy to see the foot step of a fast bowler running in ,u have to keep eye on his foot and within fraction of a second u have to move ur eye towards the batsman.Yesterdays's decision was a poor decision and it can happen. To use word like cheating is crossing the limit which some posters are doing it intentionally here . If yesterday's umpiring is cheating then the out to Gilchrist which I posted in my previous post( the link of video) is also cheating and Kumble's 10 wickets are also cheating and so on...

I know u shall again come up with some more "cheating" theory , but you can't convince me as ur agenda is clear here in this forum. Try more

And which country Azhar and Pravakor belongs who cheated in international matches? Oh no the answer is...

 

[Mainul]

You do realize right a bowlers front foot is just infront of the standing umpire. Its very strange to misread a front foot with so close proximity. And yesterday, the umpire not once but twice call the perfectly legal deliveries as no ball in same over. And they were no marginal calls either....good amount of toe was behind the line. If its not deliberate...what is?

It is exposing ur zero experience and knowledge of umiring .
It is really difficult to keep eye on front foot no ball, it requires so much of concentration, more than a batsman ,to do umpiring. That's why in many cases when the batsman is out and about to leave the field ,umpire tells the batsman to wait and check no ball by consulting with the third umpire .

 

[Mainul]

After seeing his (Umpire Tanvir Ahmed's) quote on a Bangladeshi daily:



I think he deserves another chance. He is a budding international umpire who no doubt wants to make the step up to ODIs and Tests someday, and clipping his wings at this time is uncalled for. How many times have we complained about umpires not checking for no-balls unless a wicket falls? At least Tanvir Ahmed kept an eye on the bowler's foot - even if he called wrong on this occasion.

It is highly unlikely that he will make this error again, and let's not continue to pillory him for this. Needless to say, there were no ulterior motiv at play here either. May he have a fruitful umpiring career in the years ahead!

Thank you for your honest and sensible post.

 

[moghul]

After seeing his (Umpire Tanvir Ahmed's) quote on a Bangladeshi daily:



I think he deserves another chance. He is a budding international umpire who no doubt wants to make the step up to ODIs and Tests someday, and clipping his wings at this time is uncalled for. How many times have we complained about umpires not checking for no-balls unless a wicket falls? At least Tanvir Ahmed kept an eye on the bowler's foot - even if he called wrong on this occasion.

It is highly unlikely that he will make this error again, and let's not continue to pillory him for this. Needless to say, there were no ulterior motives at play here either. May he have a fruitful umpiring career in the years ahead!

If you make mistake , you deserve a 2nd chance, if you cheat, no chance. He made multiple very wrong decisions in favor of only one team, his home team, that's not mistake, that a deliberate cheating, he should go.

 

[Hitman]

Under-fire Bangladesh umpire Tanvir Ahmed admits error, says he’s new to international cricket

The Bangladeshi umpire whose incorrect no-ball calls during this weekend’s final Twenty20 international between Bangladesh and West Indies has admitted his errors while remaining confident of rebounding from widespread ridicule.

Tanvir Ahmed, standing in his first international assessment after being elevated to the ICC Umpire Panel in November, was in the line of fire on Saturday when he erroneously called a no-ball that resulted in a heated debate between Bangladesh and West Indies cricketer and the match officials at Mirpur.

During Bangladesh’s failed chase of 191, the opener Liton Das chipped a catch to mid-off off fast bowler Oshane Thomas only for Ahmed to signal a no-ball for overstepping which resulted in a single and a free-hit. The West Indies fielder seemingly spotted that Thomas had not overstepped when the big screen at the ground showed replays of the delivery, resulting in captain Carlos Brathwaite demanding a review. A discussion ensued bringing the proceedings to a halt.

Eventually, a review was called and the delivery was deemed legal with the on-field umpire raising his finger. However, Liton stood his ground.

The match referee Jeff Crowe rushed to the middle and a long discussion followed with Brathwaite and Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan. For the second time, the decision was reversed and the original no-ball call was upheld. The commotion lasted almost 10 minutes before order was restored.

While he accepted the decision, Brathwaite later made it clear what he felt about the call after the match.

Tanvir, three international matches old, cited his inexperience at this level.

“In terms of a no-ball, there is always the issue of the foot and the line being close to each other,” he old the Bangladesh daily Prothom Alo. “And if the bowler jumps quickly, there are occasions when it is difficult to spot it. I am new to international cricket, I made a mistake.

“If you look at my past, I don’t have a bad history. It was one mistake. Inshallah, I will come back well. Every person has good days and bad days. Yesterday I had a bad day. The match just ended yesterday. I am not focusing on anything else. I am thinking about my mistake.”

During the second T20I, Ahmed had incorrectly given an lbw verdict which West Indies successful overturned. In 2016, Tanvir had walked off the field during a Dhaka Premier League one-day fixture after a disagreement with Tamil Iqbal over a stumping verdict. The match had to be postponed.

Link: https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...-says-hes-new-to-international-cricket-782173

 

[Itachi]

The problem with Bangladesh cricket in general is that they create too much noise when something goes against them but when it is benefiting them, you can't expect that honesty.

Other teams aren't angel. They are also guilt of not telling the umpires when he was wrong. But the point is, they also don't make SUCH NOISE when they are at receiving end.

Bangladeshi cricketers, fans and also the admins mostly comes off as immature bunch who is high on adrenaline and devoid of logics.

 

[wasimjunior]

Link: https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...-says-hes-new-to-international-cricket-782173

He also made two shocking decisions in the first odi against windies. The guy is a massive cheat. Both decisions were luckily overturned....

 

[Hitman]

He also made two shocking decisions in the first odi against windies. The guy is a massive cheat. Both decisions were luckily overturned....

Most of all, what type of logic did that umpire give? Being new to intentional cricket is something that can be said for cricketers, not umpires.

 

[Itachi]

Most of all, what type of logic did that umpire give? Being new to intentional cricket is something that can be said for cricketers, not umpires.

Exactly. How a no ball is different in club level cricket and international game?

You overstepped. That's it.

 

[Hitman]

Exactly. How a no ball is different in club level cricket and international game?

You overstepped. That's it.

And most of all, there are no giant screens in club or domestic cricket matches, I believe. What a joke of an excuse!

 

[Itachi]

And most of all, there are no giant screens in club or domestic cricket matches, I believe. What a joke of an excuse!

No giant screens.... Probably what saved him till now from getting accused of total incompetence. God knows how many mistakes he has done in domestic.

 

[RainMan_]

Ah yes, of course. We colluded with a Pakistani umpire to award us a no-ball against sure-shot favourites Bangladesh and sneaked past them on our way to glory.

We'll leave aside the small fact that Aleem Dar raised his hand to signal the no-ball right after it reached the batsman, and the catch occurred many seconds later at the deep mid-wicket position behind him.

But carry on throwing a sook. Just don't die wondering why you don't win any fans / admirers from any part of the world.

My friend, its a well known fact that umpires always give decisions in favor of India due to the fear of losing their jobs. Bcci don't take it positively if umpires don't give decision in their favor and if former/current players don't talk highly of Indian team.

Remember Steace Bucknor? He gave few decisions that went against India in Australia- India test series. What was the end result? Yes, the whole India and its ex cricket players burned the effigy of Bucknor and BCCI forced CA to remove Bucknor from the next test. As a matter of fact BCCI was so posses off that buckner didn't work in their favor, they made sure that it was the end of Bucknor's career.

Same with Harsha Bhogle. He criticized Indian team and he got kicked out from the commentary position. Same with Mushfiqur Rahim. He supported WI over India and made a harmless tweet about it which made BCCI furious and they have made sure that he never gets the chance to play IPL.

The list goes on and on my friend. Why do u think that umpires always give 50/50 decisions in India's favor. Why do u think umpires blatantly favored India in the Asia cup final to make India the winner when the whole match was dominated by Bangladesh.


It's simple. They r afraifyof losing the job. They know that they might lose their umpiring job if they give decision in) against India. They also will also be ignored to take part in IPL which is also a source of their earning. Nobody wants to have the fate of Bucknor, my friend.

 

[RainMan_]

Average position?? India were like 200/3 in 37 or so overs. That is an average position. May be for a powerhouse like Bangladesh, it's average. But for us , it's a commanding position. And FYI , no one is trying to please BCCI or anyone in general. You can create a delusional bubble for yourselves and live in it for as long as you want but it does not change the reality.
And Bangladesh ended up scoring 180 something in that match. How did you just assume that they were gonna chase that easily? Once again, delusional bubble my friend. Come out of it.

Score was somewhere around 190 in 40 th over. What's more important is Rohit was the only batsman that played well on that day and his partnership with Raina took the game away from Bangladesh. If rohit was rightfully given out, Raina wouldn't have managed to play as aggressively as he did with Rohit.

Score most probably would be in 250/260 range if rohit had been given out. Its Rohit's innings that took the game away from Bangladesh and forced Bangladesh to play too aggressively in their batting innings. Otherwise there's a strong possibility that BD would've won it. I m not saying, they surely would. But the possibility of Bangladesh winning that match was pretty strong if the score was around 260.

Also don't forget the pathetic Umpairing in Asia cup final where we were robbed off the championship title.

 

[topspin]

Expect the loyalists of the Nagin Dance Team to justify this in response to the "ICC is BCCI" umpiring decisions.

 

[RainMan_]

Umpiring was poor in BD-WI t20 match. I ain't denying it. Having said that, pls don't try to equate the magnitude of poor decisions in all important icc quarterfinals and finals with a pointless t 20 match that nobody cares about.
[MENTION=147345]Stalin[/MENTION], [MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION]

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just saw the “no ball” incident in the game WI vs Bangladesh.<br><br>Surely it’s time the 3rd umpire sitting with all the tv technology, can he/she not monitor the front foot, bouncer height etc and leave the on field umps to just make decisions at the batters end? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/askingforafriend?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#askingforafriend</a></p>— Dale Steyn (@DaleSteyn62) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaleSteyn62/status/1077215325563863042?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Canford Cliffs]

In hindi there is a word 'Jag Hasai' meaning laughing stock. That is what BD team has become with their antics. And their fans still defending it is making it worse. Can't say I am not enjoying it though, after all I am a well wisher of BD team, remember?

 

[Stalin]

Score was somewhere around 190 in 40 th over. What's more important is Rohit was the only batsman that played well on that day and his partnership with Raina took the game away from Bangladesh. If rohit was rightfully given out, Raina wouldn't have managed to play as aggressively as he did with Rohit.

Score most probably would be in 250/260 range if rohit had been given out. Its Rohit's innings that took the game away from Bangladesh and forced Bangladesh to play too aggressively in their batting innings. Otherwise there's a strong possibility that BD would've won it. I m not saying, they surely would. But the possibility of Bangladesh winning that match was pretty strong if the score was around 260.

Also don't forget the pathetic Umpairing in Asia cup final where we were robbed off the championship title.

I'm done.

Sadly you're just one of those lame and obnoxious Bangladesh fans on social networking sites and you represent that section flawlessly here on PP .

Leave aside that no ball incident in the quarter final ( even though that did not have any effect on the result as Bangladesh were all set to lose, and which served as a good excuse for emotional Bangladesh fans to cling on to ) .

If you still think that stumping decision against Liton das is wrong, then i'm sorry, you don't deserve to be on a cricketing forum. Tens of players have been given out in that manner in the past . (See KL Rahul's dismissal in Australia t20s) . If a batsman has nothing behind the line , he's out. Is that so difficult to understand ?

Fans have various coping mechanisms when their team loses , particularly in a big game .
Some credit the opponents for playing better than them , while some take heart in their team's fighting spirit . Unfortunately, Bangladeshis opted for the worst and cringeworthy of all the coping methods. No offence.

 

[Marathonrunner]

Exactly. How a no ball is different in club level cricket and international game?

You overstepped. That's it.

Bro there must be definite international pressure . The poor guy admitted his mistake. Let the game move on , after all he is human

 

[KP From India]

Funny thing is that BD qualified for WC 2015 QF because of Chris Jordan run out.
So according to some innocent BD fans, benefit of doubt should have gone to batsmen and he should have been not out.
We all know Jordan is a decent bat and Eng just reqd 15 odd runs and couple of boundries from him would have calmed the nerves for englishmen.
But if that Rohit no ball didnt happen, then I am sure BD have lifted WC 2015.They have ability to defeat combined teams of Ind+Aus+Nz+ Sa.

 

[Itachi]

Bro there must be definite international pressure . The poor guy admitted his mistake. Let the game move on , after all he is human

The main issue isn't that he made a mistake. We all make mistake. That's ok.

But when after watching the mistake in a giant screen, and take no steps to rectify it in order to maintain the spirit of the game, then you are doing a dishonor to the game.

He made two mistakes at that moment. First one is forgivable. But the second was shows stubbornness.

 

[RainMan_]

I'm done.

Sadly you're just one of those lame and obnoxious Bangladesh fans on social networking sites and you represent that section flawlessly here on PP .

See? Ur anger clearly shows that I was pretty much spot on with my assessment. Btw, u shouldn't forget that Bangladesh has one of the most intelligent fan Bases among all the other countries, especially the subcontinental ones. Remember what Indian fans have done throughout most of the 90s and 2000s? From burning down stadiums to throwing bottles towards opposition players playing on the field. Nothing was out of the list. I think words like lame or obnoxious isn't suitable enough to describe Indian fans.

Leave aside that no ball incident in the quarter final ( even though that did not have any effect on the result as Bangladesh were all set to lose, and which served as a good excuse for emotional Bangladesh fans to cling on to ) .

If you still think that stumping decision against Liton das is wrong, then i'm sorry, you don't deserve to be on a cricketing forum. Tens of players have been given out in that manner in the past . (See KL Rahul's dismissal in Australia t20s) . If a batsman has nothing behind the line , he's out. Is that so difficult to understand ?

Fans have various coping mechanisms when their team loses , particularly in a big game .
Some credit the opponents for playing better than them , while some take heart in their team's fighting spirit . Unfortunately, Bangladeshis opted for the worst and cringeworthy of all the coping methods. No offence.

U r trying to justify a wrong decision that was given in the most cruicial moment of the game (which was given to appease a particular wealthy cricket board) with a wrong decision in a pointless t20 match.

I haven't watched the incident of Rahul, so can't comment on that. But liton was hammering Indian bowlers allover the park when that pathetic wrong decision was given against him.

Replay couldn't confirm that liton's tow wasn't inside the popping crease. Some of the spikes of his boot were very close and no white line was visible when the replay was shown from the back of the stump which clearly suggests that some of his spikes were perhaps inside the line. Even the commentators wanted the decision to go in batman's favor.


Point is there was not enough evidence to show that his foot was on the line, but not inside. Umpires can't give anything out if he's not 100% sure. Hence benefit of the doubt should have gone to the batsman liton. But we all know, in case of India, benefit of the doubt always go to India. That's the unwritten law.

Then there's the lbw of imrul when even 5% of the ball wasn't hitting the stump but the Lankan umpire didn't think for a moment to give the decision in favor of India. We all know why.

Even in the very last over he gave a pathetic decision against Bangladesh, but thankfully BD had a review left. From the very beginning of the game that umpire was blatantly trying appease a particular rich board.

So, if Bangladeshi fans point out these blatant partialities, it's a coping mechanism. But if rookie Bangladeshi umpires without any international experience do the sane mistake, they have done it to favor the home team. Haha, some logic u got there pal.

 

[Stalin]

See? Ur anger clearly shows that I was pretty much spot on with my assessment. Btw, u shouldn't forget that Bangladesh has one of the most intelligent fan Bases among all the other countries, especially the subcontinental ones. Remember what Indian fans have done throughout most of the 90s and 2000s? From burning down stadiums to throwing bottles towards opposition players playing on the field. Nothing was out of the list. I think words like lame or obnoxious isn't suitable enough to describe Indian fans.



U r trying to justify a wrong decision that was given in the most cruicial moment of the game (which was given to appease a particular wealthy cricket board) with a wrong decision in a pointless t20 match.

I haven't watched the incident of Rahul, so can't comment on that. But liton was hammering Indian bowlers allover the park when that pathetic wrong decision was given against him.

Replay couldn't confirm that liton's tow wasn't inside the popping crease. Some of the spikes of his boot were very close and no white line was visible when the replay was shown from the back of the stump which clearly suggests that some of his spikes were perhaps inside the line. Even the commentators wanted the decision to go in batman's favor.


Point is there was not enough evidence to show that his foot was on the line, but not inside. Umpires can't give anything out if he's not 100% sure. Hence benefit of the doubt should have gone to the batsman liton. But we all know, in case of India, benefit of the doubt always go to India. That's the unwritten law.

Then there's the lbw of imrul when even 5% of the ball wasn't hitting the stump but the Lankan umpire didn't think for a moment to give the decision in favor of India. We all know why.

Even in the very last over he gave a pathetic decision against Bangladesh, but thankfully BD had a review left. From the very beginning of the game that umpire was blatantly trying appease a particular rich board.

So, if Bangladeshi fans point out these blatant partialities, it's a coping mechanism. But if rookie Bangladeshi umpires without any international experience do the sane mistake, they have done it to favor the home team. Haha, some logic u got there pal.

Commentators first reckoned that the benefit of doubt should go to the batsman. But after seeing multiple angles of the foot on the crease, they changed their opinion. KP on air had said that it could go either way and later they agreed it was a right decision.
But alas , you'll never accept it.

India got two wrong umpiring decisions against Afghanistan that too of players like DK and Msd. And that led to a tied game rather than a comfortable win for India. So I don't think the umpires are rooting for any team here .Imagine what would have been if you'd have been in our place. You would have blamed that the ICC is under the influence of Taliban and that's why they are doing everything to please Afghanistan. That's the State you're in right now. You know that your pathetic team can seldom even come close to beating India . So, giving cringy excuses are the only way to keep yourself sane and avoiding a melt down.

 

[Itachi]

See? Ur anger clearly shows that I was pretty much spot on with my assessment. Btw, u shouldn't forget that Bangladesh has one of the most intelligent fan Bases among all the other countries, especially the subcontinental ones. Remember what Indian fans have done throughout most of the 90s and 2000s? From burning down stadiums to throwing bottles towards opposition players playing on the field. Nothing was out of the list. I think words like lame or obnoxious isn't suitable enough to describe Indian fans.

Since you mentioned indian fan, I'll write a reply.

In 1996, indian fans behavior was atrocious. So was few other matches where bottle throwing etc. incident happened. But even then, indian fans were not laughing stock. Do you wonder why? in 1996, BCCI wasn't the major power in ICC. Even then, india came out without much damage to reputation. Why?

The difference between those atrocious behavior and that of bangladesh cricket is, in case of those incidents, it was localized where as, in case of Bangladesh Cricket, it is institutionalized. From the top to bottom, Bangladesh cricket has become famous for whining, crying and holding a double standard. Not to mention, the immature behavior from players which you guys try portray as facade in the name of "passion."

When one element of the system works with anomaly, people blame on that component. But when the system itself is failing to hold the standard and quality, then you have no one else to blame but the system.

Starting from the fans to players to umpires to administrators.... time after time, double standards appeared in different aspects. And with no significant success bringing on the table, creating so much "noise" is something which everyone will want to avoid. That's why bangladesh cricket has never got the reputation that it wants.

 

[KingKhanWC]

No balls are missed all the time which is why we now check the foot when a wicket falls.

I think it's more a case of incompentacy. Umpring standards in Asia have been poor apart from Aleem Dar.

 

[Marathonrunner]

The main issue isn't that he made a mistake. We all make mistake. That's ok.

But when after watching the mistake in a giant screen, and take no steps to rectify it in order to maintain the spirit of the game, then you are doing a dishonor to the game.

He made two mistakes at that moment. First one is forgivable. But the second was shows stubbornness.

Ok agree bro. Did not see. I think match referee should have stepped in this case and overturned the decision

 

[BDfanforever]

Bumped. Many people here were rushed to judge this umpire for erroneously calling couple of 'no balls.' At least he was checking the players foot, many umpires these days don't even do that. How about all those no ball that umpire misses when a wicket falls?

Today we saw umpire miss a clear no ball from Usman Shinwari and third umpire had to correct that. This is not the first time we see such things. Who knows how many 'no ball' the umpires are missing as they might be too focused on the LBW calls.

 

[rhony]

Bumped. Many people here were rushed to judge this umpire for erroneously calling couple of 'no balls.' At least he was checking the players foot, many umpires these days don't even do that. How about all those no ball that umpire misses when a wicket falls?

Today we saw umpire miss a clear no ball from Usman Shinwari and third umpire had to correct that. This is not the first time we see such things. Who knows how many 'no ball' the umpires are missing as they might be too focused on the LBW calls.

Missing a no ball is different from calling a no ball that isn't. That too, twice in an over. That too after Litton got out. It was just pathetic. There is a reason why Brathwaite wasn't sanctioned. Everybody saw what was going on.

 

[silentkiller187]

Bumped. Many people here were rushed to judge this umpire for erroneously calling couple of 'no balls.' At least he was checking the players foot, many umpires these days don't even do that. How about all those no ball that umpire misses when a wicket falls?

Today we saw umpire miss a clear no ball from Usman Shinwari and third umpire had to correct that. This is not the first time we see such things. Who knows how many 'no ball' the umpires are missing as they might be too focused on the LBW calls.

Missing a no ball can be assigned to Umpire error, calling a no ball that is not twice in the same over after one of your countrymen was deemed out is in my opinion cheating.

 

[BDfanforever]

Missing a no ball is different from calling a no ball that isn't. That too, twice in an over. That too after Litton got out. It was just pathetic. There is a reason why Brathwaite wasn't sanctioned. Everybody saw what was going on.

I would’ve agreed with you before that they are different. Now, after seeing countless times where on field umpires are missing no ball calls it makes me question certain things. Imagine missing out on 5 no balls in an ODI match thus 5 free hits, this can amount to around 20 odd runs all together or much more.

I am now certain that many umpires are too focused on LBW where they are usually under the radar thus missing on plenty of no ball/free hit calls.

 

[rhony]

I would’ve agreed with you before that they are different. Now, after seeing countless times where on field umpires are missing no ball calls it makes me question certain things. Imagine missing out on 5 no balls in an ODI match thus 5 free hits, this can amount to around 20 odd runs all together or much more.

I am now certain that many umpires are too focused on LBW where they are usually under the radar thus missing on plenty of no ball/free hit calls.

While I agree there is a clear oversight on no balls from umpires, I can't give a benefit of doubt to BD umpire. Even in the AUS series, Aussie press made a big deal about how Ishant is overstepping frequently but is being given a pass by the umpires. I don't think it's a deliberate pass. Umpires have become lazy. There is a third umpire to refer any decision and the guys on the field just have to check if the bowler is overstepping. If they can't even do that, they don't deserve to be umpires.

As far as BD umpire goes, twice in an over looks very deliberate.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India wouldn't have lost a test match in Windies had they umpire not given out to TEndulkar and two other players of a noball in the 90s. Not the first time. Not the last time. Y day Khaleel was given a noball when he was clearly touching inside the crease.

 

[JaDed]

The logic here is it's the same state to fix a match or be a bad player, mind boggling.