Bangladesh will have to handover land to India from Khulna to Sylhet: Subramanian Swamy

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Muslim bengalis wanted a separate land and got it.

Thing is that now they are illegally migrating to India and are not welcomed here. They must stay in their own country.

Bengal is Bengal, it belongs to all people of that state. Drawing a fake line down the middle of a common people who all speak the same language and share the same culture and geography will never be accepted long term.

Bigots who insist on dividing the state by religion may have won the battle, but they can never win the war!

 

[cricketjoshila]

You mean the Muslims (which were the majority) revolted and Singh committed genocide oh them which prompted the tribes to start an invasion.

So Kashmiris were fighting among themselves, then Pakistanis invaded.

 

[rhony]

Amit Shah has referred to them as termites. I feel that is is time to take what is said by the BJP seriously, as they are in a position to do what they say.

Sheikh Hasina and the Awami league have been loyal servants of India for quite some time now. I am sure, that, when the time comes, the indian govenrment is going to reward them for their loyalty, just as they rewarded mehbooba mufti and all the kashmiri politicians loyal to India and its constitution with house arrest and the ending their political career by making kashmir union territory.

If he called them termites, why would he go occupy them? You need to start making some sense. Kashmir is part of India, Bangladesh is a sovereign nation. Two different things. One just can't go and occupy other countries. You can liberate them but can't occupy them.

 

[RajBan]

It's a suitable response to obvious (read silly) question. Good strategy to change direction, well done.

You are doing that , not me. That's the irony.

 

[warcry]

If he called them termites, why would he go occupy them? You need to start making some sense. Kashmir is part of India, Bangladesh is a sovereign nation. Two different things. One just can't go and occupy other countries. You can liberate them but can't occupy them.

Akhand bharat. india can invade bangladesh and call it a revenge for 1000 years of muslim rule.

before declaring war, it is important to dehumanize the enemy to ensure public support, which india is doing.

India wants the land. not the people. they are termites, and india will tell them to go to pakistan.

 

[rhony]

Akhand bharat. india can invade bangladesh and call it a revenge for 1000 years of muslim rule.

before declaring war, it is important to dehumanize the enemy to ensure public support, which india is doing.

India wants the land. not the people. they are termites, and india will tell them to go to pakistan.

Akhand Bharat, Ghazwe Hind are all stories we should read when bored and need some laughs. Stopping illegal immigrants is not dehumanizing. It's one thing to accept refugees but it's another when people are illegally entering for economic opportunities.

 

[rhony]

Accepting Rohingyas is a different matter. They are refugees and it's a humanitarian cause. However same doesn't apply to Bangladeshis entering illegally

 

[re82h]

Bangladesh & Minorities in India should wear those "Apna Time Aaye Ga" T-Shirts and wait their turn.

 

[Pakistanian]

If there was a native insurrection and they had deposed Hari Singh and formed a govt in j and k. Then it was different.

Some people revolted and Hari singh quelled or tried to quell the revolt. And then pakistan invaded kashmir, when it was not pakistan's place to intervene.

The people successfully seceded from J&K, Pakistan sent in reinforcements to fortify their holdings. Pakistan was very much in place to intervene like how India felt justified in invading Hyderabad.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The people successfully seceded from J&K, Pakistan sent in reinforcements to fortify their holdings. Pakistan was very much in place to intervene like how India felt justified in invading Hyderabad.

Kashmiris were fighting among themselves and Pakistan interfered on behalf of one party.

India invaded hyderabad as hyderabad was violating indian airspace to get weapons.

 

[moghul]

Why just 1/3 of Bengal, Indian can take over all of BD. Don;t think Bengalis will object.

 

[sweep_shot]

Why just 1/3 of Bengal, Indian can take over all of BD. Don;t think Bengalis will object.

What are you talking about?

Of course people will likely to object.

Not everyone is pro-Indian in Bangladesh. Our government is pro-Indian, however.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Bangladeshi doesnt think India will invade.

Indians dont think they want to invade.

Indians want stoppage of illegal immigrants.

Bangladeshi poster says thats justified.

But all speculation of war etc by Pakistanis.

Thats this thread in a nutshell.

 

[Pakistanian]

Kashmiris were fighting among themselves and Pakistan interfered on behalf of one party.

India invaded hyderabad as hyderabad was violating indian airspace to get weapons.

They weren't one people. Dogras were murdering and persecuting every ethnicity there, the people of what is now AJK and GB fought hard and became free from the Dogras. Lmaoo at making up grounds for the Hyderabad invasion, they were a landlocked state surrounded by India, it was their right to enter Indian airspace as there is no way they could avoid that.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Bangladeshi doesnt think India will invade.

Indians dont think they want to invade.

Indians want stoppage of illegal immigrants.

Bangladeshi poster says thats justified.

But all speculation of war etc by Pakistanis.

Thats this thread in a nutshell.

and whos Subramanian Swamy ? your ***** ?

 

[cricketjoshila]

They weren't one people. Dogras were murdering and persecuting every ethnicity there, the people of what is now AJK and GB fought hard and became free from the Dogras. Lmaoo at making up grounds for the Hyderabad invasion, they were a landlocked state surrounded by India, it was their right to enter Indian airspace as there is no way they could avoid that.

They were all kashmiris. Pakistan had no right to invade.

Can you tell me what law gives right to anyone to use the sovereign airspace of another country for transport of weapons?

Hyderabad or any country has no such rights.

 

[Pakistanian]

They were all kashmiris. Pakistan had no right to invade.

Can you tell me what law gives right to anyone to use the sovereign airspace of another country for transport of weapons?

Hyderabad or any country has no such rights.

No they're not, Kashmiris are a Dardic people. You're calling them Kashmiris because it suits your agenda otherwise you used to say Ladakhis weren't Kashmiris lol. Kashmir was under occupation and forced to be part of this princely state and then their identity was appropriated and extrapolated to non-Kashmiri against their will.

Landlocked countries actual do have rights stipulated by the UN, blocking airspace and/or sea access is considered a declaration of war.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No they're not, Kashmiris are a Dardic people. You're calling them Kashmiris because it suits your agenda otherwise you used to say Ladakhis weren't Kashmiris lol. Kashmir was under occupation and forced to be part of this princely state and then their identity was appropriated and extrapolated to non-Kashmiri against their will.

Landlocked countries actual do have rights stipulated by the UN, blocking airspace and/or sea access is considered a declaration of war.

Now we have new theory. Kashmiris supporting Hari Singh were not kashmiris.lolfer.

Airspace cannot be used for arms transportation.

 

[Pakistanian]

Now we have new theory. Kashmiris supporting Hari Singh were not kashmiris.lolfer.

Airspace cannot be used for arms transportation.

No Kashmiri Muslim ever supported the Dogra Hari Singh, he was hated by all Kashmiris because he was a tyrant.

Yes, air can be used for arms transportation. Hyderabad was an enclaved country - completely surrounded by India, it's within their right to fly over indian airspace as it would also be their airspace, landlocked countries have that right, you can't block airspace. India just didn't want the Nizam to be strong enough to defend themselves against an Indian invasion.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No Kashmiri Muslim ever supported the Dogra Hari Singh, he was hated by all Kashmiris because he was a tyrant.

Yes, air can be used for arms transportation. Hyderabad was an enclaved country - completely surrounded by India, it's within their right to fly over indian airspace as it would also be their airspace, landlocked countries have that right, you can't block airspace. India just didn't want the Nizam to be strong enough to defend themselves against an Indian invasion.

There is a large non muslim population in Kashmir. There were large number of muslims in Hari Singh's army.

No country can use another country's airspace for weapons transport. Its not a right. Dont make up laws. And yes countrys can block airspace over its territory.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Akhand bharat. india can invade bangladesh and call it a revenge for 1000 years of muslim rule.

before declaring war, it is important to dehumanize the enemy to ensure public support, which india is doing.

India wants the land. not the people. they are termites, and india will tell them to go to pakistan.

India should invade Bangladesh and reunite the glorious state of Bengal. Anything less is like admitting the failure of India and Hindustan. Those so called Indian patriots who support the division of Bengal along religious lines are traitors to their nation.
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

 

[warcry]

India should invade Bangladesh and reunite the glorious state of Bengal. Anything less is like admitting the failure of India and Hindustan. Those so called Indian patriots who support the division of Bengal along religious lines are traitors to their nation.
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

i second the motion. accepting the status quo in bengal is tantamount to accepting the two nation theory, and is a failure of the concept of india.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Interesting how Dr Swamy has turned pro hindutva. He was anti RSS during his youth and was very close to the congress. Called Vajpayee a drunkard and a womanizer and was instrumental in the fall of BJP govt in the past. He has now reinvented himself as a hindutva mascot but you never see him emotionally invested in the hindutva causes he champions and has mutual admiration with Asad Owaisi despite being political opponents. I feel his goals are something else and hindutva is a means to get there.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India should invade Bangladesh and reunite the glorious state of Bengal. Anything less is like admitting the failure of India and Hindustan. Those so called Indian patriots who support the division of Bengal along religious lines are traitors to their nation.
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Bengalis of west bengal decided in 1947 that we dont want anything to do with east bengal.

I am happy that we did it.

 

[rhony]

i second the motion. accepting the status quo in bengal is tantamount to accepting the two nation theory, and is a failure of the concept of india.

India already accepted the two nation theory. The two nations are Pakistan and Bangladesh. India respects the sovereignty of both nations.

 

[msaaim89]

Muslim bengalis wanted a separate land and got it.

Thing is that now they are illegally migrating to India and are not welcomed here. They must stay in their own country.

How about you return the other half of Bengal.

 

[msaaim89]

You are doing that , not me. That's the irony.

You can go back to the start. You obviously deflected by asking a silly question.

 

[cricketjoshila]

How about you return the other half of Bengal.

Return? Lol. This part of bengal was for the hindu bengalis who decided that they want nothing to do with the other part and hence the partition and two nations.

 

[warcry]

India already accepted the two nation theory. The two nations are Pakistan and Bangladesh. India respects the sovereignty of both nations.

read the title of the thread: Bangladesh will have to handover land to India from Khulna to Sylhet: Subramanian Swamy.

This is not just some crackpot saying this. this crackpot is a member of parliament and a ticket holder of the ruling party saying these statements

That he is still a party ticket holder shows that the BJP think tank endorses his views.(unless you can show an official statement denouncing).

 

[rhony]

read the title of the thread: Bangladesh will have to handover land to India from Khulna to Sylhet: Subramanian Swamy.

This is not just some crackpot saying this. this crackpot is a member of parliament and a ticket holder of the ruling party saying these statements

That he is still a party ticket holder shows that the BJP think tank endorses his views.(unless you can show an official statement denouncing).

He is a crackpot. Anybody can say anything in democracy. If people don't denounce it, it doesn't mean Modi is going to send his army to Sylhet. He's made so many crazy statements over the years, it's all rhetorical.

 

[srh]

One thing to remember: Ethnicity cannot be changed. Countries borders can be changed.

I feel current Bangladesh is incomplete. The real Bangladesh would have Calcutta as its capital. But that part is still with India.

Question: As per Indian constitution, can the provincial government of Indian Bengal held a referendum on splitting away from India and join Bangladesh?
If yes and more than 50% vote in favour then is there a framework in place of how the separation will occur?

 

[sweep_shot]

One thing to remember: Ethnicity cannot be changed. Countries borders can be changed.

I feel current Bangladesh is incomplete. The real Bangladesh would have Calcutta as its capital. But that part is still with India.

Question: As per Indian constitution, can the provincial government of Indian Bengal held a referendum on splitting away from India and join Bangladesh?
If yes and more than 50% vote in favour then is there a framework in place of how the separation will occur?

Disagree.

Dhaka should always be the capital of Bengali people (if there is a unification of West Bengal and East Bengal).

I personally don't want West Bengal to join Bangladesh because that part is mostly Hindu and we can end up with conflicts. It is better for West Bengal to stay with India.

 

[Pakistanian]

Disagree.

Dhaka should always be the capital of Bengali people (if there is a unification of West Bengal and East Bengal).

I personally don't want West Bengal to join Bangladesh because that part is mostly Hindu and we can end up with conflicts. It is better for West Bengal to stay with India.

Dhaka can still be your capital but Calcutta can be your largest city, imagine Bangladesh playing home games at Eden Gardens!

 

[sweep_shot]

Dhaka can still be your capital but Calcutta can be your largest city, imagine Bangladesh playing home games at Eden Gardens!

Yeah. That's the only good thing. BD cricket would probably improve if West Bengal joins us.

But, like I mentioned, it may increase conflicts. West Bengal and East Bengal cannot unify due to religious differences. It was the reason why it was divided in 1947 in the first place.

 

[Pakistanian]

Yeah. That's the only good thing. BD cricket would probably improve if West Bengal joins us.

But, like I mentioned, it may increase conflicts. West Bengal and East Bengal cannot unify due to religious differences. It was the reason why it was divided in 1947 in the first place.

Dw Brother, Pakistan will get you guys West Bengal - United Bengal will become a reality.

 

[Itachi]

Dw Brother, Pakistan will get you guys West Bengal - United Bengal will become a reality.

You couldn't even hold east Pakistan when it was yours.

Spare the Bangladesh now. They have seen how Pakistan is concerned about them in 1971.

 

[Pakistanian]

You couldn't even hold east Pakistan when it was yours.

Spare the Bangladesh now. They have seen how Pakistan is concerned about them in 1971.

When did I say we will take Bangladesh? We'll just hand them West Bengal - their land.

 

[RajBan]

You can go back to the start. You obviously deflected by asking a silly question.

You did that initially with your out of context comments on the main topic. You could have just said that the comments form Swamy is rubbish and discarded it. May be it's a lack of comprehension on your part.

I just asked what do you know about Bengal on top of your comments. You could have politely declined to answer or shared your perspective. Probably you know nothing about Bengal , neither it looks like you want to share any information for constructive discussion.

 

[RajBan]

Yeah. That's the only good thing. BD cricket would probably improve if West Bengal joins us.

But, like I mentioned, it may increase conflicts. West Bengal and East Bengal cannot unify due to religious differences. It was the reason why it was divided in 1947 in the first place.

Bengal cricket is in a pathetic state of affairs with no new talent emerging. So there won't be any any benefit for Bangladesh cricket.

And in West Bengal and Bangladesh while the religious demography is different, the cultural similarities bind them together. Unlike East Punjab and West Punjab where instead of strong cultural ties and similarities, the religious differences reigned in, Bengal does not follow the same pattern. Here while differences are definitely there but the language and culture and common heritage continue to foster close exchanges overiding the national and religious differences.

 

[msaaim89]

You did that initially with your out of context comments on the main topic. You could have just said that the comments form Swamy is rubbish and discarded it. May be it's a lack of comprehension on your part.

I just asked what do you know about Bengal on top of your comments. You could have politely declined to answer or shared your perspective. Probably you know nothing about Bengal , neither it looks like you want to share any information for constructive discussion.

How can a comment from India's top leadership just be discarded? Or should we ignore everything BJP say?

Re Bengal, if I really didn't know anything, couldn't I just google? Bengal was split in half. You know that. It was a bad question from you anyway. I could just ask what do you know about Pakistan anytime a Pakistan topic comes up - it moves away from the discussion.

 

[RajBan]

How can a comment from India's top leadership just be discarded? Or should we ignore everything BJP say?

Re Bengal, if I really didn't know anything, couldn't I just google? Bengal was split in half. You know that. It was a bad question from you anyway. I could just ask what do you know about Pakistan anytime a Pakistan topic comes up - it moves away from the discussion.

Swamy does not represent BJPs top leadership. Infact he is eccentric and often criticizes top leadership. He is not even a second rung leader in that party.

I can't consider Bawda as top leadership of Pakistan to that point.