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We all know that skill wise today there is no one who can surpass the ATG batsman Virat Kohli. But who all do you think had the potential to even be like him in skills in todays era. And what are the reasons that they didnt achieve what Kohli has done till now?
 
hafeezrocks said:
Umar Akmal
Babar Azam
Imam Ul Haq
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No they are not more talented than Kohli.

OP please define talent.

Do you consider the following as talents?

1) temperament.
2) ability to work harder than anyone else.
3) ability to deal with pressure.

Or is talent limited to shot making ability?
 
i dont follow English/Aussie/Sa cricketers. Babar comes close to him. But Hitting powerwise sharma is more talented and brave.
 
Madplayer said:
No they are not more talented than Kohli.

OP please define talent.

Do you consider the following as talents?

1) temperament.
2) ability to work harder than anyone else.
3) ability to deal with pressure.

Or is talent limited to shot making ability?
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Ability for shot making. If they had ability to deal with pressure and work harder than anyone else then they may have succeeded isnt it?
 
B_Positive said:
We all know that skill wise today there is no one who can surpass the ATG batsman Virat Kohli. But who all do you think had the potential to even be like him in skills in todays era. And what are the reasons that they didnt achieve what Kohli has done till now?
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How does one measure talent? If someone is able to represent their county, they are obviously talented. Kohli is able to use his talent to produce results and that's what matters. Hard work beats talent when talent don't work hard.
 
Ned Flanders said:
Umar Akmal, he was crazy good in 2009 and 2010.
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Umar Akmal played 10 matches in 2009, averaged 44. (bashed Sri Lanka, failed against, India, Australia and NZ)

2010, he averaged 33.

Most of what posters remember of him was pure hype.
 
Only guy who is more pleasing to eye than Kohli is Root. Rohit Sharma has been mentioned by Kohli himself but I don't it is true.

Sharma is so sitting duck against swing and I cannot rate any batsman who is a sitting duck against swing bowling as talented.
 
Current lot:

1) ABDV
2) Williamson/Buttler
4) Smith (on par with Kohli)

Kohli has a lot more top grade cricketing exposure (plays more competitive games) makes his records/form very hard to reach. But in terms of skill/talent these 4 in my list are right up there.
 
Rohit Sharma only. Smith is a cheater, ABDV doesn’t have the heart like Rohit and Williamson is boring to watch. Butler is a slogger
 
Only ABDV is better than Kohli in terms of talent.Smith is not a talented as his T20 skills are not even close along with his odi battng.Same applies to Williamson.
 
I wouldn't say babar azam is as talented. The akmal brothers were more talented than babar in terms of pure talent but babar has worked hard on his game from a young age. He has been coached since he was 10 I think.
 
In terms of shot making ability Buttler and AB.

In terms of technique against pace Kane Williamson.

In terms of technique and murdering spin Pujara.

In terms of mental strenghth Steve Smith.

But overall, Kohli has a higher quality combined.
 
Akmal
Shahzad
Asif Ali
Shaan Masood
Imam
Harris
Rahmat Shah
Liton Das
Rameez Raja jnr
Azeem Ghumaan
 
Babar is poor man’s Rahane at best. Selfish player with no match winning capability at all. I watched his century innings vs Australia. While chasing high score under pressure, rather than matching fire with fire, he threw the towel and scored a selfish century at poor strike rate. Never during the course of his stay at the crease it looked to me that he has intent to win the match for his country. I have no idea why he is compared to Virat Kohli all the time.
 
In all seriousness:-

1. KL Rahul
2. AB de Villiers
3. Evin Lewis

These 3 batsmen are more talented than Kohli with the bat.

Rahul is by far the most talented batsman of this generation. Cricket has not seen a player like him since Sachin's phenomenal 90s days.
 
Rohit, ABD, Yuvraj, Akmal, Butler, Raina and probably some more.

Many may have forgot how talented Raina was.
 
Jos buttler - although he is doing his job perfectly well but imo he is the true successor of ab devillers when it comes to natural gifted batting style.
I think his best years are ahead of him.

Other than that

Kl rahul & Decock.
 
Rohit is active one. ABD retired and idk anyone else if is really talented. Rahul is overhyped in short formats as of now.
 
Is Rohit Sharma a better batsman than Virat Kohli? Harbhajan Singh gives his verdict

When Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma are in full flow, while it is a delight to watch for the cricket fans, the situation is nothing less than a nightmare for the opposition bowlers, who fall short of ideas to dismiss India’s captain and vice-captain. The two right-handers once again produced a superb display of batting during the 1st ODI against West Indies where they hammered Windies bowlers to all parts of the ground. Kohli, we all know, breaks records with almost every knock of his, but even Rohit has had a great year in the coloured jersey for the Men in Blue. Seeing the two batsmen's heroics, senior Indian cricketer Harbhajan Singh has highlighted what differentiates the two classy batsmen.

"If I speak of Rohit, he hit three-four sixes off Morne Morkel in the T20 World Cup in South Africa on a bouncy Durban track. I understood then only that he has a special talent. And, if I just speak of talent, he will be above Kohli but with hard work, Kohli left everyone behind," Harbhajan was quoted as saying by India Today. While Rohit has often been hailed as most talented batsmen in the world, the cricket fraternity falls short of words while lauding the hard work Kohli has put in to become the world class cricketer he is today. (Also Read: Virat Kohli's coach responds to his 'I have few years left in my career to enjoy cricket' statement)

During the first ODI against West Indies played at the Barsapara Cricket Stadium in Guwahati, Kohli and Rohit were involved in a magnificent 246-run stand for the second wicket which proved to be decisive for the hosts. While Kohli scored 140 runs, Rohit once again finished the job for his team as he remained unbeaten on 152.

Harbhajan further lauded the fact that the two had deservedly occupied the two top spots in ICC ODI rankings for batsmen. "Rohit Sharma is a player of a different level. When Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma play, it is difficult to judge who is better. The No.1 and No.2 ranking is justified for them and for me...both of them are No.1. The pair is No.1 and whenever they bat together, they dominate," The Turbanator added.

The 2nd ODI between India and West Indies will be played at Dr. Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy ACA-VDCA Cricket Stadium in Visakhapatnam on October 24.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...s-claim-in-recent-documentary-baseless/303196
 
I find the casual stroke play of Rohit beyond anything. No one matches him; a set Rohit is absolutely something else and can be compared to anyone from any era.

I do believe that Shaw or Gill will overtake both Rohit and Kohli in a few years - Indian batting is literally in a league of its own. Mindbending how much talent is being produced by this factory so it wouldn't be surprising if someone in the maidaans of mumbai, or the gallian or dehli is ready to upstage even Shaw or Gill in the next few years.

Smith isn't Kohli level, AB has retired, and Butler is not in this league of these extraordinary gentlemen.
 
AB.

Lazy elegance Rohit looks better, but is not more talented.
 
Salman butt. This guy would have become the greatest Asian batsman in SENA if not for being banned. Even now hes probably good enough to tour South Africa.
 
Umar Akmal of course. Still remember what he did to Shane Bond on test debut. Politics and mishandling ruined him.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Salman butt. This guy would have become the greatest Asian batsman in SENA if not for being banned. Even now hes probably good enough to tour South Africa.
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Did you get to this conclusion from his tremendous average of 30 from over 30 tests?
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
I find the casual stroke play of Rohit beyond anything. No one matches him; a set Rohit is absolutely something else and can be compared to anyone from any era.

I do believe that Shaw or Gill will overtake both Rohit and Kohli in a few years - Indian batting is literally in a league of its own. Mindbending how much talent is being produced by this factory so it wouldn't be surprising if someone in the maidaans of mumbai, or the gallian or dehli is ready to upstage even Shaw or Gill in the next few years.

Smith isn't Kohli level, AB has retired, and Butler is not in this league of these extraordinary gentlemen.
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LMAO, if only it worked like that. I remember when Haddin had debuted and Australian fans were least bothered about the hole it would leave in their side. According to them Haddin would just slot in and do exactly what Gilly did. Of course he didn't and Australians have still not found a worthy keeper since.

Australians have easily the most impressive talent honing system for their national team and just look at where they are. A world beating talent like Kohli is once in 20 year phenom and if Indian fans casually assume Prithvi or Gill would simply slot in and take over, then an unpleasant surprise might await them.

Australians were plain LUCKY they got Mcgrath, Warne, Ponting playing for them at the same time. It's a rare occurrence and not something that is meant to happen. The same is the case with India. They were lucky to have Sachin, Dravid, Viru and Laxman playing for them for so long. Nobody should mistake this for something that's meant to happen.
 
Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first call them "talented"

Talent without performance is a boat on dry land. Boat can't be judged by how beautiful it looks on land but how well it maneuvers in rough waters. Only measure of talent is performance.
 
shaaik said:
Is Rohit Sharma a better batsman than Virat Kohli? Harbhajan Singh gives his verdict

When Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma are in full flow, while it is a delight to watch for the cricket fans, the situation is nothing less than a nightmare for the opposition bowlers, who fall short of ideas to dismiss India’s captain and vice-captain. The two right-handers once again produced a superb display of batting during the 1st ODI against West Indies where they hammered Windies bowlers to all parts of the ground. Kohli, we all know, breaks records with almost every knock of his, but even Rohit has had a great year in the coloured jersey for the Men in Blue. Seeing the two batsmen's heroics, senior Indian cricketer Harbhajan Singh has highlighted what differentiates the two classy batsmen.

"If I speak of Rohit, he hit three-four sixes off Morne Morkel in the T20 World Cup in South Africa on a bouncy Durban track. I understood then only that he has a special talent. And, if I just speak of talent, he will be above Kohli but with hard work, Kohli left everyone behind," Harbhajan was quoted as saying by India Today. While Rohit has often been hailed as most talented batsmen in the world, the cricket fraternity falls short of words while lauding the hard work Kohli has put in to become the world class cricketer he is today. (Also Read: Virat Kohli's coach responds to his 'I have few years left in my career to enjoy cricket' statement)

During the first ODI against West Indies played at the Barsapara Cricket Stadium in Guwahati, Kohli and Rohit were involved in a magnificent 246-run stand for the second wicket which proved to be decisive for the hosts. While Kohli scored 140 runs, Rohit once again finished the job for his team as he remained unbeaten on 152.

Harbhajan further lauded the fact that the two had deservedly occupied the two top spots in ICC ODI rankings for batsmen. "Rohit Sharma is a player of a different level. When Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma play, it is difficult to judge who is better. The No.1 and No.2 ranking is justified for them and for me...both of them are No.1. The pair is No.1 and whenever they bat together, they dominate," The Turbanator added.

The 2nd ODI between India and West Indies will be played at Dr. Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy ACA-VDCA Cricket Stadium in Visakhapatnam on October 24.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...s-claim-in-recent-documentary-baseless/303196
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This is why Bhajji should shut up and stop talking nonsense. He hit 2 sixes in that game and none off Morkel. Both were off Van der wath. It was Dhoni who hit a six off Morkel. Even in sky commentary during the england test series, he went on about imaginary instances which probably happened in his head.

to quote one of my fav scenes in a movie
Me- "Bhajji bhai aap chai lenge"
Bhajji - Nahi, bas.
Me - "Aap Coffee lenge"
Bhajji - Nahi
Me - "Toh aap chup rehne ka kya lenge?"
 
EliteCynical said:
This is why Bhajji should shut up and stop talking nonsense. He hit 2 sixes in that game and none off Morkel. Both were off Van der wath. It was Dhoni who hit a six off Morkel. Even in sky commentary during the england test series, he went on about imaginary instances which probably happened in his head.

to quote one of my fav scenes in a movie
Me- "Bhajji bhai aap chai lenge"
Bhajji - Nahi, bas.
Me - "Aap Coffee lenge"
Bhajji - Nahi
Me - "Toh aap chup rehne ka kya lenge?"
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Basically the gist of his statement was, at 20, on a fast, bouncy and spicy pitch at Durban which is notorious for it unplayabilty at night those days, Rohit was was playing the fast bowlers easily. That too India were in a precarious situation and it was a must win match. Just look how RP Singh caused havoc that day.
 
WengerOut said:
Basically the gist of his statement was, at 20, on a fast, bouncy and spicy pitch at Durban which is notorious for it unplayabilty at night those days, Rohit was was playing the fast bowlers easily. That too India were in a precarious situation and it was a must win match. Just look how RP Singh caused havoc that day.
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I remember the game very well. No that was not the gist of it. The gist was that I am bhajji and i need eyeballs, so let me talk about Kohli and Rohit. He could have just said "No comment". Already bitter about being dropped from the Indian team, he has gone ahead and liked a tweet which suggested Dhoni should be dropped in place of Pant for wk spot. Clearly has to stay away from all this, since he cannot hold his own!
 
Umar Akmal was way more talented than Kohli when he debuted but over the years he regressed while Kohli evolved dramatically. Apart from him not a single batsman. Sorry to all Bobby and Fakher fans.

From India, KL Rahul and Rohit Sharma have always been ahead of Kohli talent wise.

ABD we all know was quite terrific and more talented than Kohli.

From West Indies, Hetmyer and Lewis are more talented than Kohli.

None from Australia, NZ, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, England, Sri Lanka. Sorry to all fans from these countries.
 
Bhaijaan’s top 5 most talented batsmen in world cricket in order :-


1. KL Rahul - By far the greatest batting talent in the game since Tendulkar. If he unlocks his true potential he will be nothing less than a God.

2. Shimron Hetmyer - Greatest West Indian batting talent since the great Sir Rohan Kanhai. He might end up becoming the greatest left handed cricketer of all time.

3. Rohit Sharma - The Hitman. When he goes green he becomes an unstoppable force.

4. Evin Lewis - In a world without Shimron Hetmyer he would have ended up as the greatest left handed batsman.

5. Virat Kohli - Statistically the GOAT ODI batsman. Also a very handy test batsman.
 
BlackShadow said:
Umar Akmal played 10 matches in 2009, averaged 44. (bashed Sri Lanka, failed against, India, Australia and NZ)

2010, he averaged 33.

Most of what posters remember of him was pure hype.
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Well exactly We are talking about natural talent Not output
 
VK is talented because he follows a strict diet and fitness regime along with never being satisfied with his game.

It’s the same across all sports and fields.
 
OK ABDv is guy who would come close to talent as Kohli. I would rate ABDV ahead of Kohli also mainly due to his solid technique.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Bhaijaan’s top 5 most talented batsmen in world cricket in order :-


1. KL Rahul - By far the greatest batting talent in the game since Tendulkar. If he unlocks his true potential he will be nothing less than a God.

2. Shimron Hetmyer - Greatest West Indian batting talent since the great Sir Rohan Kanhai. He might end up becoming the greatest left handed cricketer of all time.

3. Rohit Sharma - The Hitman. When he goes green he becomes an unstoppable force.

4. Evin Lewis - In a world without Shimron Hetmyer he would have ended up as the greatest left handed batsman.

5. Virat Kohli - Statistically the GOAT ODI batsman. Also a very handy test batsman.
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Right now KL Rahul is only good at unlocking his phone and taking selfies. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Right now KL Rahul is only good at unlocking his phone and taking selfies. :inti
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He is where Nero was Matrix 1, most of it. He knows not what and who he is and what he is capable of. He could be the only batsman ever who has limitless talent.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Bhaijaan’s top 5 most talented batsmen in world cricket in order :-


1. KL Rahul - By far the greatest batting talent in the game since Tendulkar. If he unlocks his true potential he will be nothing less than a God.

2. Shimron Hetmyer - Greatest West Indian batting talent since the great Sir Rohan Kanhai. He might end up becoming the greatest left handed cricketer of all time.

3. Rohit Sharma - The Hitman. When he goes green he becomes an unstoppable force.

4. Evin Lewis - In a world without Shimron Hetmyer he would have ended up as the greatest left handed batsman.

5. Virat Kohli - Statistically the GOAT ODI batsman. Also a very handy test batsman.
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KL Rahul is probably gonna play his last series of his life against Australia. He's going the Umar Akmal way and will nowhere be in the picture in a month's time if he doesn't perform against Aussies. Funny that he's mentioned in the same 'talent list' of Kohli and Rohit.
 
It is a bit sad but people forget that rohit, raina, jadeja were thrusted on account of cotorie/favoritism/"talent" on the team for 4-5 years, after which , fortunately or unfortunately, returns started to come. If this much time is given with confidence to the players, an above average player might punch well above his weight. As a result, India lost many matches in ODIs especially. As for tests, it was the other way round, the old-timers simply refused to come out of the cocoon and retire and that cost India 3-4 years of good players coming in. You never know until you try a new player but that trials cannot be like an R&D of a pharma co. which go for 7-10 years, with or without results. Teams cannot afford that much as fans might lose interest in the game.
 
Talented? Many

Hardworking? None

Kohli is the most hardworking player in the world and his stats speak that. No one in the history of the game can lace up his boots.
 
Tyler Durden said:
KL Rahul is probably gonna play his last series of his life against Australia. He's going the Umar Akmal way and will nowhere be in the picture in a month's time if he doesn't perform against Aussies. Funny that he's mentioned in the same 'talent list' of Kohli and Rohit.
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Exactly how? Still is as fit and hardworking as anyone else (has had some freak injuries at wrong time). Yes returns have been poor in Tests because he tweaked his game for T20s, became a major hit but that has cluttered his Test technique, especially his front foot game.

He's got everything needed to succeed as a Test batsman (unlike say a Yuvraj or Raina). Needs some minor technical adjustments which he will make. Good to see the team managment backing him in tests.
 
What has KL Rahul ever done to receive the mention in such thread? Curious since I haven’t seen him bat that much
 
Only another player could have given Virat K a run for his money in this era, ABD and that's about it. None of these babar, umar - LOL, and co how some are pointing out. Kholi is on a different level than these guys.
 
B_Positive said:
We all know that skill wise today there is no one who can surpass the ATG batsman Virat Kohli. But who all do you think had the potential to even be like him in skills in todays era. And what are the reasons that they didnt achieve what Kohli has done till now?
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Quite honestly, at least half of all Pakistani men are more talented than Kohli. It is just that they haven't been given proper training, or they just have better things to do than waste their time learning to play cricket.
 
A certain Englishman who keeps gloves in odi cricket and has found good enough success recently in test cricket??
 
Chrish said:
What has KL Rahul ever done to receive the mention in such thread? Curious since I haven’t seen him bat that much
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Rahul significantly outperformed Kohli in the most recent IPL.

https://sports.mapsofindia.com/cricket/ipl/highest-run-scorers.html

There is a reasonable case to be made that IPL is where batsmen put in their maximum effort as that is where they earn the largest financial rewards.

Maybe Rahul didn't really care to apply himself in the England Test series, treated is as a vacation.
 
Tyler Durden said:
KL Rahul is probably gonna play his last series of his life against Australia. He's going the Umar Akmal way and will nowhere be in the picture in a month's time if he doesn't perform against Aussies. Funny that he's mentioned in the same 'talent list' of Kohli and Rohit.
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Rahul was the #3 batsman in IPL 2018, far ahead of Kohli in terms of Avg/SR/Total Runs. You are going to see him making many million dollars for many years in the richest cricket league.
 
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