BCB to allow players only two NOCs per year for overseas leagues

[MenInG]

T20 leagues seek clarification over BCB's NOC rule

The Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB)’s decision to not issue more than two No Objection Certificates (NOC) per year to its contracted players for overseas cricket leagues has drawn flak from various franchises.

The Bangladesh players—especially Shakib al Hasan, Mustafizur Rahman and Tamim Iqbal—have been quite sought after by various franchises across the leagues, and even as such a diktat comes in, most of the franchise bosses feel that they will be able to get the services of the Bangladesh players.

Interestingly, in last week’s player drafts for the Pakistan Super League (PSL), Peshawar Zalmi retained Shakib and bought Tamim for this edition of the league.

And despite the BCB’s order, Peshawar Zalmi owner Javed Afridi is confident of having both the players on board. “We had brought them in only after they got NOCs from BCB. There is no way they can stay away now. We have completed all the necessary formalities with the Pakistan Cricket Board, and the Bangladesh players should be available for us,” Afridi told Sportstar on Tuesday.

The Peshawar franchise, which won the PSL last season, has also made the two Bangladeshi players as its ambassadors. “We are confident of having them on board,” Afridi said.

BCB CEO Nizamuddin Chowdhury told Bangladeshi media that the board wants the top players to be free from injuries and fatigue issues, which is why the decision comes into effect immediately.

The leagues included in the restrictions are of all formats, and the board has made it mandatory for players to participate in Bangladesh's first-class tournaments.

Three Bangladeshi players—Shakib, Mustafizur and Tamim—have been roped in for next month’s T10 Cricket League as well, and the organisers are now waiting for a clarification from the BCB.

“There are a few issues that need to be clarified. What is the denominator of two leagues? What are the benchmarks? We need to know them all. At the moment, we are waiting for clarifications,” TCL founder Shaji-ul Mulk told Sportstar from Dubai on Tuesday.

Some of the player agents, who deal with Bangladesh cricketers, also confirmed to this publication that they have been receiving regular phone calls from various franchises seeking a clarification on the issue.

http://www.sportstarlive.com/cricke...cation-over-bcbs-noc-rule/article20445521.ece

 

[MenInG]

Smart move by BCB?

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Smart move by BCB?

Players won’t agree with this for sure.I’ve read that the players association over there doesn’t agree either.

 

[zoeyfactor]

T10 is in 2017. PSL is in 2018 in the beginning so they should be good.

 

[DRsohail]

lets see what BCB can and i can agree that it causes injury issues.

 

[bujhee kom]

BPL is the 2nd most lucrative league.

 

[MenInG]

BPL is the 2nd most lucrative league.

After PSL?

 

[Hasan123]

If they aren't allowed to play, hopefully the franchises can replaced them.

 

[bujhee kom]

After PSL?

Long term after IPL. BD has a much stronger economy than Pk.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Definately a good move.The players must play their countrys own league and may be 2 more leagues.Going forward other boards may do the same.

 

[bujhee kom]

IPL and BBL. No need for junior bolod leagues.

 

[pkwdpassion]

Non-issue being made into a thread

What is Pakistan set to lose rofl?

Many in Pakistan don't even the Bangladesh XI completely, who cares if the

2 more players will benefit out of this which I hope are local talented aspirants.

Leagues real motive is to nurture and promote local talent.

Great move, hope BCB stands strong on this issue and if they revoke their players from PSL 2018, it would be a blessing indeed.

So many from silver category are waiting to grab that opportunity.

 

[MABA]

BPL is the 2nd most lucrative league.

Absolutely hilarious, even with PSL being held outside the country It is bigger than BPL

 

[WengerOut]

Can expect Shakibs retirement announcement anytime soon.

 

[MMHS]

Can expect Shakibs retirement announcement anytime soon.

Won't - you can bet on that. He'll play 2023 WC before retirement. Shakib earns more than twice from endorsement than his cricket - and for Bangladeshis, he is a BD player first, then No. 1 all-rounder.

 

[Shafi]

So no PSL for Mustafiz, Sakib, Tamim and Mahmudullah. Only BPL and IPL BCB is just playing dirty tricks and people expecting their players tour us???

 

[Syed1]

So no PSL for Mustafiz, Sakib, Tamim and Mahmudullah. Only BPL and IPL BCB is just playing dirty tricks and people expecting their players tour us???

It says two overseas leagues

 

[WengerOut]

It says two overseas leagues

CPL and PSL are viable for them then.

 

[Syed1]

CPL and PSL are viable for them then.

They will earn more by just by being on the bench in the IPL. The only BD player who had success in the PSL was Tamim. I hope he comes back this year he was dangerous at the top of the order for Peshawar Zalmi.

 

[WengerOut]

They will earn more by just by being on the bench in the IPL. The only BD player who had success in the PSL was Tamim. I hope he comes back this year he was dangerous at the top of the order for Peshawar Zalmi.

I might be wrong but Shakib is the only man picked in IPL .And at best , I think it will remain the same this time also.

 

[ads101]

Never understood why these leagues are targeted. Players don't get injured playing these leagues often. They are T20 cricket, hard to get injured playing for a few overs. I don't even think these Leagues are that entertaining, I don't watch them much. But they're being blamed yet again for something they aren't a cause of.

The problem is too many formats to juggle in tests, ODIs and T20s (though obviously tests will create the most injuries), too long games/flat pitches. And players have to adapt their style differently for both LOI and tests. Get rid of T20 cricket and I'm sure the injuries will stay around the same. Get rid of test cricket and I'm sure injuries will come down dramatically.

The fact that so few cricketers are now even playing three formats, suggests this, players are struggling to handle all three formats except for batsmen. And even then Batsmen don't play three formats a lot anymore, just look at pakistan's team, only two batsmen in the test team also player LOI.

 

[Shafi]

It says two overseas leagues

Under current circumstance it will be CPL/Big bash and Holy IPL.

 

[Executioner]

Tamim only plays in PSL, was picked in IPL in the past might get locked again

Fizz will go to IPL and PSL
Riad to PSL and CPL

Shakib will be hurt because he has to skip one of IPL PSL CPL and I think he will choose CPL because PSL pays a bit more and his buddy Tamim is there.

Regardless I am sure Tamim Shakib Riad fizz will play in the PSL.

 

[Executioner]

Under current circumstance it will be CPL/Big bash and Holy IPL.

None of our players will be participating in BBL anytime soon because its just after BPL. Shakib last played BBL in 2014.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

I can't wait till some board somewhere pushes this nonsense too far and some player takes it to court.

The day that happens, the NOC regime will fall and we will see the true power of T20 leagues without ICC and boards protecting Test Cricket by sabotaging T20.

 

[MMHS]

I can't wait till some board somewhere pushes this nonsense too far and some player takes it to court.

The day that happens, the NOC regime will fall and we will see the true power of T20 leagues without ICC and boards protecting Test Cricket by sabotaging T20.

Won't happen - I explained you before.

Actually, if Boards want, they can block every player from every league - but basically, these boards are the most corrupt people in the game, so PLs & SLs are winning fome grounds. I give you a better explanation - top clubs of top European leagues actually can keep all PLs & SLs in pocket - still they are obliged to release each & every player his National Manager wants even for a Friendly - say for Sadio Mane, Senegal FA pays him around $2000 match fee and a bit of endorsement share as an annual contract, and Liverpool pays him $250,000/week + bonuses - last year he went to ACN in busiest time of the season (& returned back limping), next year he'll go again (& may be come back limping again).

Even take Messi, whose loyalty is more to Barca than Argentina & his debt ridden Federation can be bought by Barca with one bill, had to fly on Sunday night on a charter craft to Buenos Aires, play a friendly with some team (me can't recall, so it's not the hunks for sure - Brazil, Germany, France, Spain ......). Interestingly, they didn't even play him and he flew back on Wednesday night again in a charter flight so that he can play the Sunday La Liga match - and that round trip was sponsored by Barca, so that they can get back their hero in time & shape.

The reason being simple - Shakib is no body without BD cricket, neither Kohli or Warner without their National team. Today he is a superstar, because 15 years back BCB invested on him & allowed him to develop as a cricketer through their system & facilities - it's same for anyone. If anyone takes the Board to court - every time he'll lose the case & have to pay back the trial cost; as long as he is under central contract. I explained this one as well - my service clause asks me to deliver for 37.5 hours par week - that doesn't mean I can spend rest time working for another company, or say for this deep night, if I start snoozing tomorrow in this office, someone will remind me something. Players can become free agents, then no board will block them - let's see how many top players has the balls to do so.

If anyone tries to act over smart, every Board (if they are honest, over wise can be sold - many already been, otherwise entire PAK national team won't have been in UAE for that bet feast) will put a clause to every U18 players - if you are to use the system and domestic tournaments to become Chris Gayle or AB in 10 years time - you have to commit next 15 years to National team..... or you can go to PLs & SLs to develop you in 6 weeks' mantra. At least it football, those clubs develop players - in cricket, these PLs & SLs are not even has an academy.....

And that's perfectly fair - my cousin (worked for NASA) was sent for a Masters at MIT on Nano technology - it was one of the global best program in his line; with a clause that, he'll work for that project (for which he was sent) for next 5 years (he even wasn't allowed to leave US for entire period), won't join in any other job within 6 months of leaving (in case after 5 years) and it a had a laundry list of company/country for whom he won't ever work - it was legally bounded & FBI could arrest him from any where in world, unless he sacrifices his US Passport in the process ................ my cousin served his job for 6 years, took couple of years sabbatical to visit home, completed his PHD & now he is a Director of one of largest security system developer in world - lives in a million $ apartment at down town Chicago ........ he is happy, so are his former employer.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

I can't wait till some board somewhere pushes this nonsense too far and some player takes it to court.

The day that happens, the NOC regime will fall and we will see the true power of T20 leagues without ICC and boards protecting Test Cricket by sabotaging T20.

No player can as they are employed by the boards.

 

[Convict]

I can't wait till some board somewhere pushes this nonsense too far and some player takes it to court.

The day that happens, the NOC regime will fall and we will see the true power of T20 leagues without ICC and boards protecting Test Cricket by sabotaging T20.

It depends. Like for actual national contracted players its perfectly reasonable but if a player doesn't have a national contract its a gross injustice to prevent him from playing for anyone.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This move was expected. Other boards will likely follow suit.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

It depends. Like for actual national contracted players its perfectly reasonable but if a player doesn't have a national contract its a gross injustice to prevent him from playing for anyone.

This rule is for the contracted (national and domestic) players of BCB. Others are free to play any times.

 

[saeed5646]

Grand total of 4 players are playing in Psl from BD i don.t think it will effect Psl that much only tamim will be missed while fizz might not play due to injury
Shakib will not needed when zalmi already have left arm spinner in asghar

 

[CricketAnalyst]

No player can as they are employed by the boards.

They can quit employment as and when they like as per law.

The real issue is that cricket boards are a monopsony (only person buying) and they are basically using illegal restraint of trade to prevent players from playing elsewhere.

The entire concept of NOC as created by ICC is a restraint of trade and mostly it is enforced by the threat of not retaliatory and vindictive action by boards.

The moment any player has a reason to go to Court or the CAS the entire regime will collapse. This is why CA didn't dare to actually try and revoke any NOC of striking players during their dispute.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Won't happen - I explained you before.

Actually, if Boards want, they can block every player from every league - but basically, these boards are the most corrupt people in the game, so PLs & SLs are winning fome grounds. I give you a better explanation - top clubs of top European leagues actually can keep all PLs & SLs in pocket - still they are obliged to release each & every player his National Manager wants even for a Friendly - say for Sadio Mane, Senegal FA pays him around $2000 match fee and a bit of endorsement share as an annual contract, and Liverpool pays him $250,000/week + bonuses - last year he went to ACN in busiest time of the season (& returned back limping), next year he'll go again (& may be come back limping again).

Even take Messi, whose loyalty is more to Barca than Argentina & his debt ridden Federation can be bought by Barca with one bill, had to fly on Sunday night on a charter craft to Buenos Aires, play a friendly with some team (me can't recall, so it's not the hunks for sure - Brazil, Germany, France, Spain ......). Interestingly, they didn't even play him and he flew back on Wednesday night again in a charter flight so that he can play the Sunday La Liga match - and that round trip was sponsored by Barca, so that they can get back their hero in time & shape.

The reason being simple - Shakib is no body without BD cricket, neither Kohli or Warner without their National team. Today he is a superstar, because 15 years back BCB invested on him & allowed him to develop as a cricketer through their system & facilities - it's same for anyone. If anyone takes the Board to court - every time he'll lose the case & have to pay back the trial cost; as long as he is under central contract. I explained this one as well - my service clause asks me to deliver for 37.5 hours par week - that doesn't mean I can spend rest time working for another company, or say for this deep night, if I start snoozing tomorrow in this office, someone will remind me something. Players can become free agents, then no board will block them - let's see how many top players has the balls to do so.

If anyone tries to act over smart, every Board (if they are honest, over wise can be sold - many already been, otherwise entire PAK national team won't have been in UAE for that bet feast) will put a clause to every U18 players - if you are to use the system and domestic tournaments to become Chris Gayle or AB in 10 years time - you have to commit next 15 years to National team..... or you can go to PLs & SLs to develop you in 6 weeks' mantra. At least it football, those clubs develop players - in cricket, these PLs & SLs are not even has an academy.....

And that's perfectly fair - my cousin (worked for NASA) was sent for a Masters at MIT on Nano technology - it was one of the global best program in his line; with a clause that, he'll work for that project (for which he was sent) for next 5 years (he even wasn't allowed to leave US for entire period), won't join in any other job within 6 months of leaving (in case after 5 years) and it a had a laundry list of company/country for whom he won't ever work - it was legally bounded & FBI could arrest him from any where in world, unless he sacrifices his US Passport in the process ................ my cousin served his job for 6 years, took couple of years sabbatical to visit home, completed his PHD & now he is a Director of one of largest security system developer in world - lives in a million $ apartment at down town Chicago ........ he is happy, so are his former employer.

That's not 'perfectly fair'. It's 100% illegal restraint of trade. I mean you might subjectively think it's fair, but as per laws of India, Bangladesh or really any commonwealth country this won't stand up. There is no such thing as bonded labour, and therefore contracts like you have to do this job for 'X' years because I trained you are null and void. They have absolutely 0 stature in law.

Your example is actually 100% impossible. I know USA law well enough to know there is absolutely 0 possibility of any such thing being enforced in any state of the USA. He is at absolute liberty to leave if his passport is valid. Moreover there are literally no circumstances where a person can be compelled to work when they don't feel like under these legal systems. Such a contract is never binding.

In European football none of this can happen without the PLAYER's CONSENT. In fact your example proves the opposite. Even if Liverpool want they can't stop Mane from playing. (As you pointed out). BUT if MANE himself wants to not play, neither Liverpool nor his country can force him to play and he cannpt be subjected to any penalty.

It's the same thing, if Virat Kohli for some reason decided he wanted to resign from international cricket and play in Big Bash League (or some private league paying huge money), neither BCCI nor Indian Govt can stop him, and if ICC required an NOC, they would lose in any legal challenge

 

[MMHS]

That's not 'perfectly fair'. It's 100% illegal restraint of trade. I mean you might subjectively think it's fair, but as per laws of India, Bangladesh or really any commonwealth country this won't stand up. There is no such thing as bonded labour, and therefore contracts like you have to do this job for 'X' years because I trained you are null and void. They have absolutely 0 stature in law.

Your example is actually 100% impossible. I know USA law well enough to know there is absolutely 0 possibility of any such thing being enforced in any state of the USA. He is at absolute liberty to leave if his passport is valid. Moreover there are literally no circumstances where a person can be compelled to work when they don't feel like under these legal systems. Such a contract is never binding.

In European football none of this can happen without the PLAYER's CONSENT. In fact your example proves the opposite. Even if Liverpool want they can't stop Mane from playing. (As you pointed out). BUT if MANE himself wants to not play, neither Liverpool nor his country can force him to play and he cannpt be subjected to any penalty.

It's the same thing, if Virat Kohli for some reason decided he wanted to resign from international cricket and play in Big Bash League (or some private league paying huge money), neither BCCI nor Indian Govt can stop him, and if ICC required an NOC, they would lose in any legal challenge

I didnt disagree with your point - you can notice that I challenged any player to become free agent if he has the balls. But, do you think VK will retire at 29 even if he is matched his wage by PSL or BPL or bbl?

That can happen when PLs & SLs becomes more popular than national teams. Since it still didn’t happen for Barca, Real, MU, Liverpool, Juve or Bayern; I think we can safely wait for our lifetime for Mumbai Indians, Dhaka Dynamites or Lahore Qalandars to do so.

Regarding the bonding - it’s not under direct labour law. WI is also under Commonwealth ruling - till 2000, WICB had a policy that players have to be available for entire domestic FC season to be eligible for WI cap, and that time there was no such central contract either. Mane can retire from Senegal - still he’ll be Mane for Liverpool. If Kohli retires today - he is nobody tomorrow, trust me nobody in cricket world. Indians will cheer for next guy wearing blue cap - Kohli won’t risk that. Show me a single player in his 20s and regular starter for national team has done so - some are just taking benifit of the softness of their corrupt board (for SAF, quota system is another issue).

By the way, BCB has just played the soft ball - when they’ll play the hardball you won’t hear much. Do you think everything needs to be written in contract paper?

 

[MMHS]

Grand total of 4 players are playing in Psl from BD i don.t think it will effect Psl that much only tamim will be missed while fizz might not play due to injury
Shakib will not needed when zalmi already have left arm spinner in asghar

What PSL has to do in it? By the way, Shakib bats a bit as well - he is a bit better cricket than Asghar not for his 4 overs only. May be Asghar can start batting at 3, then i’ll be assured a bit more on that.

 

[saeed5646]

What PSL has to do in it? By the way, Shakib bats a bit as well - he is a bit better cricket than Asghar not for his 4 overs only. May be Asghar can start batting at 3, then i’ll be assured a bit more on that.

i was talking about bowling (left arm spinner)

zalmi already have 4 to 5 allrounder i don,t think zalmi will missing shakib batting if he pull out

 

[MMHS]

i was talking about bowling (left arm spinner)

zalmi already have 4 to 5 allrounder i don,t think zalmi will missing shakib batting if he pull out

You think PZ will replace Workd no. 1 allrounder in 3 formats for best part of a decade from their 4 to 5 all rounders? Cricket must be a damn easy game then.

 

[Convict]

This rule is for the contracted (national and domestic) players of BCB. Others are free to play any times.

Yeah I figured that would be the case.

 

[saeed5646]

You think PZ will replace Workd no. 1 allrounder in 3 formats for best part of a decade from their 4 to 5 all rounders? Cricket must be a damn easy game then.

zalmi already have no 1 odi allrounder and what are the stats of Shakib in PSL so far nothing specail