BCCI and ICC agree on the number of events for next FTP cycle, 6 World Cups instead of 8

[Reddy]

"Theoretically, eight events in the next cycle were approved, in principle, by the ICC executive board in October 2019 but there would be little clarity around it even within the member boards, with the FTP calendar neither finalized nor approved.

The BCCI's insistence on six world events in the next cycle is a stand that is understood to have been endorsed by New Zealand Cricket (NZC), too, apart from Cricket Australia (CA) and England & Wales Cricket Board (ECB). Other boards were in favour of eight world events in the next cycle as the spoils from these ICC events are important components of their income. It is not so much for CA, ECB and BCCI.

With regards to the process of inviting Expressions of Interest (EOIs) for ICC tournaments, PCB chairman Ehsan Mani recently denied any knowledge of BCCI's reservations around the issue but Cricbuzz can confirm that the issue was indeed raised by the BCCI. In addition to that, it's also learnt that the BCCI, CA and ECB never formally responded to ICC's mail seeking EOIs.

But as of now, it's unlikely that the process of bidding will see the light of day anytime soon."

Source:; https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-ne...reeing-on-number-of-events-for-next-ftp-cycle

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

BCCICC will get its way.. in form or another.. As usual.

 

[Reddy]

BCCICC will get its way.. in form or another.. As usual.

naah, BCCI was in disarray for the last few years due to the naive Supreme Court appointed administrators and they were getting outfoxed by Manohar the snake at the ICC.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

This is getting boring, can we have a FIFA like body. Why is a 3rd world country allowed to influence anything regardless of how many rupees are printed. We need an independent body thats professional and neutral.

 

[JattMaula]

This is getting boring, can we have a FIFA like body. Why is a 3rd world country allowed to influence anything regardless of how many rupees are printed. We need an independent body thats professional and neutral.

BCCICC is a selfish entity but r u really calling FIFA "independent", "professional " and "neutral"?

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is getting boring, can we have a FIFA like body. Why is a 3rd world country allowed to influence anything regardless of how many rupees are printed. We need an independent body thats professional and neutral.

Because that country brings in the money that ICC hands out to other boards. ICC needs the money and India brings Majority of it, if you have a problem, ask PCB to bring in the funds.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

BCCICC is a selfish entity but r u really calling FIFA "independent", "professional " and "neutral"?

Then what are they? Please elaborate. While you do that please also tell how many countries come under FIFA, which country dictates FIFA or pressurises it the most in Football like India does in cricket. Thanks.

 

[Banton10]

Hahaa bcci finally agrees to icc after some rona-dhona.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

I would not even want PCB running ICC. I want it to become totally impartial and independent. Problem is desis like to do a lot of politics and it just bleeds into everything. Its for the best for the long run, don't worry nobody is taking your money away.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hahaa bcci finally agrees to icc after some rona-dhona.

You mean ICC agrees to BCCI.

 

[Artaxerxes]

BCCICC is a selfish entity but r u really calling FIFA "independent", "professional " and "neutral"?

At least FIFA is not held hostage by a single third world country.

 

[Markhor]

An occasion where I agree with BCCI stance but for a different reason.

No need for an overkill ICC global events.

 

[cricketjoshila]

At least FIFA is not held hostage by a single third world country.

Atleast in FIFA most countries are not dependent on their handouts that majorly comes from one country.

 

[Amjid Javed]

If BCCI had there way they wud host all 6 events aswell. Selfish cricket board and arrogant cricket nation who think whole world revolves around them.

 

[Gullycricket]

If BCCI had there way they wud host all 6 events aswell. Selfish cricket board and arrogant cricket nation who think whole world revolves around them.

Absolutely. They do generate lot of revenue but have selfishly used it to fill their own coffers rather than worrying about the global expansion of the game. Just because of their arrogance DRS system was not implemented for long time. I rememeber for long DRS implementation was on the whims of Dhoni and Sachin Tendulkar. Is this how the game will run now?
Nobody is bigger than the game. Kohli-Shastri-BCCI mafia must remember that. No wonder cricket is dying out in smaller nations

 

[cricketjoshila]

Absolutely. They do generate lot of revenue but have selfishly used it to fill their own coffers rather than worrying about the global expansion of the game. Just because of their arrogance DRS system was not implemented for long time. I rememeber for long DRS implementation was on the whims of Dhoni and Sachin Tendulkar. Is this how the game will run now?
Nobody is bigger than the game. Kohli-Shastri-BCCI mafia must remember that. No wonder cricket is dying out in smaller nations

Why should BCCI give away the money it generates to others? Did anyone gave money to BCCI?

 

[pillionrider]

If BCCI had there way they wud host all 6 events aswell. Selfish cricket board and arrogant cricket nation who think whole world revolves around them.

The biggest revenue generator in world cricket has hosted 1 ICC event since the 2011 WC. India hasn't hosted an Asia Cup since 1990.

 

[ahmedzee]

The biggest revenue generator in world cricket has hosted 1 ICC event since the 2011 WC. India hasn't hosted an Asia Cup since 1990.

The last world t20 was hosted by india. The next world t20 (this year) would be hosted by india. The next World Cup would be hosted by india. India hosted World Cup 10 years ago (3 world cups ago).

How much do u think India should get then. I think a World Cup should come back to a country after 30 years. Here India hosting 5 events in 10 years. Come on!

 

[pillionrider]

The last world t20 was hosted by india. The next world t20 (this year) would be hosted by india. The next World Cup would be hosted by india. India hosted World Cup 10 years ago (3 world cups ago).

How much do u think India should get then. I think a World Cup should come back to a country after 30 years. Here India hosting 5 events in 10 years. Come on!

Didn't realize there hasn't been a T20 WC since the last India one.

Ok, maybe I just want to watch some live matches since I don't go to IPL games anymore

 

[Gullycricket]

Why should BCCI give away the money it generates to others? Did anyone gave money to BCCI?

How you develop the game with this mentality. Every board should chip in with money they can provide. Ofcourse BCCI has the largest responsibility with being the largest revenue generator. BCCI will not go bankrupt by doing it. How else will the game grow if the biggest board is being so greedy?
Typical South Asian mentality. Think if Bill Gates etc thought the same what would happen to all the innovations, Covid research. Think on same lines

 

[Slog]

The biggest revenue generator in world cricket has hosted 1 ICC event since the 2011 WC. India hasn't hosted an Asia Cup since 1990.

Lol it’s hosting two back to back WT20s and 2 WC in 12 years which is unprecedented

 

[cricketjoshila]

How you develop the game with this mentality. Every board should chip in with money they can provide. Ofcourse BCCI has the largest responsibility with being the largest revenue generator. BCCI will not go bankrupt by doing it. How else will the game grow if the biggest board is being so greedy?
Typical South Asian mentality. Think if Bill Gates etc thought the same what would happen to all the innovations, Covid research. Think on same lines

No thank you. It is not BCCI's responsibility to fund incompetent corrupt boards where govt interferes regularly in the running of the game.

 

[nextover666666]

Bcci and icc ruining the game as always

 

[pillionrider]

Lol it’s hosting two back to back WT20s and 2 WC in 12 years which is unprecedented

As I mentioned later, I didn't realize there hasn't been a T20 WC since the one in India

But unprecedented?

England hosted the first 3 WCs which is probably fine as they were perhaps the only ones equipped at the time to host them apart from Australia.
CWC
Eng: 1999, 2019
Aus: 1992, 2015

CT
Eng: 2004, 2013, 2017 (back to back)

 

[Ellipsism]

The last world t20 was hosted by india. The next world t20 (this year) would be hosted by india. The next World Cup would be hosted by india. India hosted World Cup 10 years ago (3 world cups ago).

How much do u think India should get then. I think a World Cup should come back to a country after 30 years. Here India hosting 5 events in 10 years. Come on!

The CWC can only be played in like 4 places. How do you expect there to be a 30 year gap between a nation hosting events?

 

[U$ofA]

How you develop the game with this mentality. Every board should chip in with money they can provide. Ofcourse BCCI has the largest responsibility with being the largest revenue generator. BCCI will not go bankrupt by doing it. How else will the game grow if the biggest board is being so greedy?
Typical South Asian mentality. Think if Bill Gates etc thought the same what would happen to all the innovations, Covid research. Think on same lines

Developing the game is the sole and prime responsibility of the ICC not individual boards. Of which they do a very poor job. The ICC is the one that should be taken to task.

Just because BCCI has a lot of money does not mean that it should be given away or be taken away by someone else. Whatever money given should be voluntary, not forced.

In your own Bill Gates example, him giving his money was voluntary. Him keeping $130 billion for himself is not greed. Wanting to keep the money you make does not amount to greed.

 

[ahmedzee]

The CWC can only be played in like 4 places. How do you expect there to be a 30 year gap between a nation hosting events?

Game is developing, new countries coming into fold. Just like previously India shared wc with SL, Pak, BD, and Aus with NZ, individual nations can hold it too. For example: India is hosting it in 2023, previously they shared it. Hell, even UAE can host a World Cup if needed. Surely the cycle can be every 30 years (or after 7 World cups).

The last time SA had a World Cup was almost 20 years ago. Maybe they should be getting it something this decade.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Why should BCCI give away the money it generates to others? Did anyone gave money to BCCI?

I agree to some extent, but if all boards are asked by the ICC to commit a certain percentage of their revenue towards a WC or any cyclical event, then I don't think there should be any excuse for BCCI to do so. If every other board does it, that would be fair.

BCCI not supporting the EOI is basic economics and common sense, there's no direct benefit to the BCCI and it loses money, so why would they hand out money to others? Morally, maybe they should, but logically there seems to be no reason.

However, I believe that ICC needs to grow a spine and actually start taking authority. They should solely be making decisions, the Big 3 mentality should not exist if the game wants to progress. It's not the BCCI's fault that smaller cricketing nations can't generate revenue, it's mostly the ICC's fault that they aren't able to supply those nations with enough cricket.

The ICC is a useless, spineless cricketing body which has done nothing in the last few years apart from trying to milk the game for money to keep within their own pockets.

The BCCI is not at fault here.

 

[OMB]

Me not like this. Me always like more cricket.

 

[mastimasti]

BCCICC is a selfish entity but r u really calling FIFA "independent", "professional " and "neutral"?

But it is far better than the ICC. Can you imagine if there was a WTC like world championship in football and ENgland refused to play France?

 

[Napa]

This is getting boring, can we have a FIFA like body. Why is a 3rd world country allowed to influence anything regardless of how many rupees are printed. We need an independent body thats professional and neutral.

Because most of the revenues comes from the "3rd world country". As they say, "money talks and ** walks".

 

[Napa]

Then what are they? Please elaborate. While you do that please also tell how many countries come under FIFA, which country dictates FIFA or pressurises it the most in Football like India does in cricket. Thanks.

If one country produced more than 60% of the revenues for FIFA, you can bet they would have a similar influence. You are welcome.

 

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Atleast in FIFA most countries are not dependent on their handouts that majorly comes from one country.

Irrelevant.

I don't blame BCCI as i would possibly do the same if I was them as they obviously gey their way.

However, Cricket cannot compare with Football etc, where these sorts of tactics are entertained

 

[Slog]

As I mentioned later, I didn't realize there hasn't been a T20 WC since the one in India

But unprecedented?

England hosted the first 3 WCs which is probably fine as they were perhaps the only ones equipped at the time to host them apart from Australia.
CWC
Eng: 1999, 2019
Aus: 1992, 2015

CT
Eng: 2004, 2013, 2017 (back to back)

There’s always been a bias towards England historically perhaps due to lords.

Australia had a 23 year gap between world cups. And has never hosted CT or WT20 either. They always get shafted I feel

 

[Napa]

There’s always been a bias towards England historically perhaps due to lords.

Australia had a 23 year gap between world cups. And has never hosted CT or WT20 either. They always get shafted I feel

They get shafted... and then they get their revenge by winning the most number of the biggest tournament

 

[nextover666666]

If one country produced more than 60% of the revenues for FIFA, you can bet they would have a similar influence. You are welcome.

No they would not ..

 

[U$ofA]

There’s always been a bias towards England historically perhaps due to lords.

Australia had a 23 year gap between world cups. And has never hosted CT or WT20 either. They always get shafted I feel

In the current scenario, any ICC event held has to be time friendly to Indian TV audience. I think that is the first thing that ICC looks at fortunately or unfortunately. Any country that is not time friendly will not fly. Which is one of the reasons why Aus/NZ are not a big favorite as hosts. That is the current reality.

I remember a T20WC in WI where matches were played at 9:30 AM local time because it was prime time in India. Imagine a T20 game at 9 in the morning.

 

[rhony]

That's sad. World events are lot more entertaining than Bilaterals.

 

[Babbar]

World cups planned are still too many. I guess they give a chance to the small teams to have some excitement and also a way for them to leach millions of dollars from BCCI and, to some extent, ECB.

Bilateral series with 3-6 Tests and equal numbers of ODIs are more fun.

All this insults and hatred towards BCCI is the behaviour of a beggar towards a rich person. Beggar covets rich person’s money, will grovel before him to get crumbs somehow but then gives chicest gaali behind his back wishing him the worst. Nothing unusual. USA also is used to it. BCCI will also grow a thick skin.

 

[MenInG]

 

[Energy]

^ That is what you call a proper home season, which PCB and Pakistan are being denied at every opportunity.

We still ended up winning 2 ICC world events during the 11 year period, along with the Test No.1 ranking.

 

[Varun]

What is with the non-stop T20s?

Where are the ODIs?

 

[Rafa]

What is with the non-stop T20s?

Where are the ODIs?

Have two back to back T20 WCs this year and next. Odi WC is still far away.

 

[MP2011]

What is with the non-stop T20s?

Where are the ODIs?

They say due to T20 WC happening in Australia, they are playing so many T20s, an excuse I find very lame.

How much practice do you need after playing IPL, WT20, so many other T20s in every series/tour?

 

[sweep_shot]

There are simply way too many ICC events.

They should have one ODI World Cup every four years, one World T20 every four years, and one WTC every four years. Have the Champions Trophy once every two years.

Scrap Asia Cup.

 

[Last Monetarist]

The New Zealand tour should have had three tests at least, not when the BCCI try and and promote the primacy of test cricket. The format's slow, painful death continues.

 

[JattMaula]

The New Zealand tour should have had three tests at least, not when the BCCI try and and promote the primacy of test cricket. The format's slow, painful death continues.

I would give NZ 4 tests. They are the wtc winners. They have earned it.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The New Zealand tour should have had three tests at least, not when the BCCI try and and promote the primacy of test cricket. The format's slow, painful death continues.

The slow death of test cricket is one thing. But ODIs are dying even faster. The excuse given earlier was that since we have World T20 coming up, we need to play more T20's.

Even after World Tt20, we are only playing T20's and not focussing on ODIs. I think ODI cricket will be finally finished after 2023 World Cup.

 

[Rafa]

The slow death of test cricket is one thing. But ODIs are dying even faster. The excuse given earlier was that since we have World T20 coming up, we need to play more T20's.

Even after World Tt20, we are only playing T20's and not focussing on ODIs. I think ODI cricket will be finally finished after 2023 World Cup.

Odi Cricket is the most premium event of Cricket with it's rich history. If it doesn't survive, Cricket will lose lot of it's appeal.

Odi series are limited to 3 match series between various teams who are part of the Odi Super league which is means of qualification for the ODI WC. Gone are the day of 5 match and 7 match Odi series hence we feel not much Odi Cricket is being played these days.

 

[Last Monetarist]

The slow death of test cricket is one thing. But ODIs are dying even faster. The excuse given earlier was that since we have World T20 coming up, we need to play more T20's.

Even after World Tt20, we are only playing T20's and not focussing on ODIs. I think ODI cricket will be finally finished after 2023 World Cup.

The ICC's decision to legitimize T20 cricket in 2007 has killed off the sport (as it used to be played for over a century).

I foresee the terminal demise of international cricket in a few years, with franchise cricket the only meaningful competition that will remain.

 

[JattMaula]

The slow death of test cricket is one thing. But ODIs are dying even faster. The excuse given earlier was that since we have World T20 coming up, we need to play more T20's.

Even after World Tt20, we are only playing T20's and not focussing on ODIs. I think ODI cricket will be finally finished after 2023 World Cup.

After t20's became a thing odi was always going to die. Tests have their niche. But ODIs nowadays are just overlong t20's. We don't need them.

We should give up on ODIs. It will also free time for longer test series' and more domestic cricket. Win win.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The ICC's decision to legitimize T20 cricket in 2007 has killed off the sport (as it used to be played for over a century).

I foresee the terminal demise of international cricket in a few years, with franchise cricket the only meaningful competition that will remain.

Odi Cricket is the most premium event of Cricket with it's rich history. If it doesn't survive, Cricket will lose lot of it's appeal.

Odi series are limited to 3 match series between various teams who are part of the Odi Super league which is means of qualification for the ODI WC. Gone are the day of 5 match and 7 match Odi series hence we feel not much Odi Cricket is being played these days.

ODIs are what got me into cricket and in the last decade no format has declined faster than ODIs.

International cricket certainly is in crisis.

 

[Ab Fan]

After t20's became a thing odi was always going to die. Tests have their niche. But ODIs nowadays are just overlong t20's. We don't need them.

We should give up on ODIs. It will also free time for longer test series' and more domestic cricket. Win win.

It won't be too long before we will have just T20Is and franchise cricket happening with the odd test series, which will mostly be between Big Three.

The influence of T20 cricket has pretty much killed the international cricket for most part of the year. Every team have their own leagues and moreover, boards keep trying different new ideas to earn more money like The hundred etc.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The ICC's decision to legitimize T20 cricket in 2007 has killed off the sport (as it used to be played for over a century).

I foresee the terminal demise of international cricket in a few years, with franchise cricket the only meaningful competition that will remain.

You would think with declining interest there would be more effort to accommodate Pakistan, which is one of the countries where fans still care about the game. But T20 franchise cricket has given players more leeway to pick and choose where they play, and international cricket is often second choice.

Anyway, Pakistan has such a shoddy domestic program, they can hardly complain if no one else takes them seriously as a cricket nation.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

After t20's became a thing odi was always going to die. Tests have their niche. But ODIs nowadays are just overlong t20's. We don't need them.

We should give up on ODIs. It will also free time for longer test series' and more domestic cricket. Win win.

We? Talk about yourself only. ODIs aren't going anywhere.

 

[Ab Fan]

This is why I keep asking T20Is format must be shelved. As long as T20Is will be there, the franchise cricket will also be there. All this will lead to the decline of Test cricket and ODI cricket which means decline to international cricket.

In the last few years especially, there has barely been enough ODIs played. All is about money these days. Just play T20s and franchise cricket. It is getting ridiculous really.

I understand making money is important as ultimately that is what everyone wants to have but they must respect the history of the game and conserve the Tests and ODIs for the goodwill of the game. This is why I will suggest them to atleast shelve T20I cricket. Once that is done, franchise cricket will automatically get faded away as this excuse of World T20 will no longer be there.

T20 format, on a whole, is a joke of the tournament and to conserve the trueness of the game, i.e. Tests and ODIs cricket, T20I format must be shelved.

 

[Saurav]

They say due to T20 WC happening in Australia, they are playing so many T20s, an excuse I find very lame.

How much practice do you need after playing IPL, WT20, so many other T20s in every series/tour?

IPL is domestic. We'd need to try new players and combinations under Rohit for WT20

 

[MP2011]

IPL is domestic. We'd need to try new players and combinations under Rohit for WT20

I feel the promotion of T20s at the expense of ODIs very pathetic. At least in ODIs, you've semblance of proper cricket, batsman and bowlers get at least some chance to show their wares while T20s are just slam-bang, hit or perish!

 

[MP2011]

After t20's became a thing odi was always going to die. But ODIs nowadays are just overlong t20's. We don't need them.

We should give up on ODIs.

Strongly disagree. Just because people have short attention span these days, doesn't mean ODIs should die.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Only 4 home tests. Not good. Should request NZC to play one more test.

 

[cricket4all]

Because that country brings in the money that ICC hands out to other boards. ICC needs the money and India brings Majority of it, if you have a problem, ask PCB to bring in the funds.

A lot of multinational companies are actually US companies so should America hold all the football world cups and control fifa? I don’t think so. Stupid logic of people that think just because India the country helps generate revenue they should have most power and influence. The Indians and their companies benefit as much from the revenues that they say they generate.

 

[Napa]

Then what are they?

What are they? Mostly jailbirds )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_corruption_case#Convicted_defendants

 

[Napa]

I would give NZ 4 tests. They are the wtc winners. They have earned it.

NZ gets hammered every Test it plays in India, it gets boring after some time.

 

[Mesozoic]

What a shame!

Test series between the two best sides in the world and we get only 2 matches like always.

 

[JattMaula]

NZ gets hammered every Test it plays in India, it gets boring after some time.

Everybody gets hammered in india.

I think five test series will give fair reflection of both sides. NZ will have long time to get used to conditions. India too should tour for 5 test in NZ.

 

[sindhiboy]

Everybody gets hammered in india.

I think five test series will give fair reflection of both sides. NZ will have long time to get used to conditions. India too should tour for 5 test in NZ.

The last time williamson played a test seres in Asia in 2019, he averaged 8 with the bat. And Nz drawed the series in sri lanka 1-1.
England have whitewashed sri lanka in sri lanka two times. But only managed to win one test in india this year before being hammered in the next 3 tests

However, Conway and Jamieson have completely transformed the test team and could do well even in asian conditions.
Ajaz Patel will thrive in ahmedabad ltype wickets. So Nz could still give a fight to india

 

[JattMaula]

The last time williamson played a test seres in Asia in 2019, he averaged 8 with the bat. And Nz drawed the series in sri lanka 1-1.
England have whitewashed sri lanka in sri lanka two times. But only managed to win one test in india this year before being hammered in the next 3 tests

However, Conway and Jamieson have completely transformed the test team and could do well even in asian conditions.
Ajaz Patel will thrive in ahmedabad ltype wickets. So Nz could still give a fight to india

Yup. NZ have kept improving every year. Shame on BCCI for not arranging a proper tour for them.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

No thank you. It is not BCCI's responsibility to fund incompetent corrupt boards where govt interferes regularly in the running of the game.

BCCI should definitely help to grow the game, even if not by funding the boards. Could be by signing MOUs with boards of other countries to help develop cricket in their country, sending coaches over, inviting foreign teams to have a cricket tour of India and playing exhibition matches against Indian state-level teams, maybe even having a certain number of cricketing scholarships where foreign players play club or state-level cricket in India. By this, I mean emerging cricketing nations like Nepal for example. If some of their players come and play club cricket in India, it would take their game to another level. And the more competent cricket-playing nations we have, the better.

 

[OMB]

BCCI should not stop at 6 world events.
The associates are going to develop their games by way of qualifiers for these events so more WC are better.
Perhaps it is time for two extra WC events for associates and emerging nations which ought to be funded by the big 3

 

[Napa]

Everybody gets hammered in india.

I think five test series will give fair reflection of both sides. NZ will have long time to get used to conditions. India too should tour for 5 test in NZ.

Actually, in recent series in India both England and Australia won the first Test. NZ cam nowhere near.

 

[JattMaula]

Actually, in recent series in India both England and Australia won the first Test. NZ cam nowhere near.

Well we too won in Australia and England but came nowhere near in NZ.

 

[Napa]

Well we too won in Australia and England but came nowhere near in NZ.

Hence we should not play a 5-Test series on NZ