ICC approves hybrid model for Champions Trophy 2025, extends the same policy to ICC events hosted by either country during the 2024-2027 rights cycle

[cricketjoshila]

you said nothing will be official about Hybrid being applied to India’s tournament. now we have board approved resolution

Nothing you said on this forum has turned out to be 100% true but you can blame ESPN to be inaccurate sometimes

Lets assume India refuses to travel for knockout , So will PCB.. on this point you were of view that ICC can go ahead and kick us out Do you even read what you write here non stop?

Board approved resolution says nothing about knockouts. Nothing.

When CT schedule comes it show where knockout matches are to be played.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Which big match? Have you seen the schedule of the T20WC? Are India and Pakistan in the same group?

Yes let's talk about today. PCB is losing out on hosting of 5 matches.

If India and Pakistan are in separate groups in the T20WC, India won't be losing hosting right of any matches.

there will no be change in groups . you have nothing to back this claim . it seems your wish. and throwing assumptions here

ICC says Hybrid will be applied to all tournaments till 2027. now you are assuming about knockouts but you do not know for sure its the case

Dnt be 100% sure about 5 games. India has not qualified yet

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Board approved resolution says nothing about knockouts. Nothing.

When CT schedule comes it show where knockout matches are to be played.

yes float your boat on Knockout assumptions

 

[Stewie]

I am glad Pakistan wont be forced to play in India anymore. That's the best part of this deal.

 

[sweep_shot]

This is a win for Pakistan.

They don't have to play in India now.

Well done.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I assume you're suggesting India will change its stance in 2026.

That's fine but we can only judge the agreement for what it is right now which includes the BCCI. Everything else is for the future. Who knows these countries might be on good terms by then.

One interesting detail Cricinfo didn't mention was what happens if India doesn't qualify for the CT knockouts and/or Pakistan doesn't qualify for the T20 WC final (assuming the semi would have been in SL anyway).

Will it be changed back to the original host?

The venues for the knockouts and final should be decided well in advance to ensure tickets can be printed and made available for sale. Unfortunately, some Indian fans are hoping the BCCI and ICC will reverse their decisions and unfairly undermine the PCB, driven by petty biases. Such attitudes are a disheartening reflection of the divisive and unethical mindset that holds back progress and tarnishes India’s image.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I believe the PCB standing firm against the BCCI’s tactics and securing the opportunity to host another ICC tournament, along with having their matches against India at a neutral venue, is a significant victory. It serves as a powerful example of why one should not surrender their rights, even when facing a stronger opponent intent on undermining them. Those who are proudly anticipating a reversal from the BCCI need a serious reality check.

 

[saimayubera]

In 2026 there will be another board meeting lol and Pakistan will given something else for down the road.

 

[Devadwal]

Just wait , how you are going to start nagin dance after the champion trophy when same cricinfo will tell you -

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Just wait , how you are going to start nagin dance after the champion trophy when same cricinfo will tell you -





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[Devadwal]

@Rajdeep

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Effectively pak players cannot play IPL for next 3 years either.

That's got to hurt.

I think the only way to tempt Pakistan players to IPL would be to offer biggest salaries going plus 20% for safety assurances.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Cleaver by ICC to not mention about knockout matches because they are already know that Pakistan will most likely not qualified for final or Even Semifinal.

india own record in the last 10 years in icc events have been trash.

The icc were clever to not say something stupid unlike yourself. .

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Most of the indian posters were bragging about how quickly the PCB will say yes to their demands.

In the end india wont host Pakistan either will will irk them no end.

This shows no matter how much propaganda is spread and said when its all said and done the cricket world and the icc need Pakistan v india matches to survive not just india like most of the indians want to make people believe.

 

[Pakpak]

Everywhere else Indian fans accepting India will not host any final in India if Pak qualify.

Only deluded Indians are in this thread

 

[saimayubera]

india own record in the last 10 years in icc events have been trash.

The icc were clever to not say something stupid unlike yourself. .

"last 10 years" lol

bow down to the world champions

 

[Kroll]

Cop out, shameful by Pak board.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

"last 10 years" lol

bow down to the world champions

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Before you get excited I said the record over the last 10 years.

Did they win everything in the last 10 years???.

 

[saimayubera]

Before you get excited I said the record over the last 10 years.

Did they win everything in the last 10 years???.

My point was how conveniently it is "10 years" and not "15 years" or "20 years" lol.

That's why the "10 years" in quotes.

What has Pakistan won in the last "5 years", "6 years"? An Asia Cup even?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Everywhere else Indian fans accepting India will not host any final in India if Pak qualify.

Only deluded Indians are in this thread

Some of my fellow Indian fans here remain hopeful that the BCCI and ICC will reverse their stance and provide them the much needed boost. Unfortunately, they will have to wait nearly two years for that possibility. Until then, they will have to accept the reality that all India vs. Pakistan matches will be played at neutral venues. Their denial stems from having placed too much expectation on the BCCI. They are forgetting that BCCI also needs money to survive.

 

[saimayubera]

Some of my fellow Indian fans here remain hopeful that the BCCI and ICC will reverse their stance and provide them the much needed boost. Unfortunately, they will have to wait nearly two years for that possibility. Until then, they will have to accept the reality that all India vs. Pakistan matches will be played at neutral venues. Their denial stems from having placed too much expectation on the BCCI. They are forgetting that BCCI also needs money to survive.

Naah. It is the reverse.

Pakistanis will have to live with the hope that they don't play in India.

Reality is different from "Agreements".

2023 AC, 2023 WC, 2025 CT all were hosted the way India wanted even if there were "agreements" before. NOTHING has been hosted the way Pak wanted. That is the REALITY ie what actually happened.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

I haven’t been following this.

Can Indian posters explain why India/ BCCI has won, and can Pakistani posters let me know why PCB/ Pakistan has smacked India/ BCCI?

Fastest way to know what’s going on….

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

PS: don’t actually answer that.

 

[Mesozoic]

Naah. It is the reverse.

Pakistanis will have to live with the hope that they don't play in India.

Reality is different from "Agreements".

2023 AC, 2023 WC, 2025 CT all were hosted the way India wanted even if there were "agreements" before. NOTHING has been hosted the way Pak wanted. That is the REALITY ie what actually happened.

Bruh let them have their "win". Claiming fake victories is in their dna.

BCCI have effectively taken 1/3rd of the tournament out of their country in return for their games to be held in co-host Sri Lanka (which was likely happening anyways) lmao. If this is a W, we'd love seeing pakistan taking more and more such Ws in the near future.

 

[chakdeindian]

Some of my fellow Indian fans here remain hopeful that the BCCI and ICC will reverse their stance and provide them the much needed boost. Unfortunately, they will have to wait nearly two years for that possibility. Until then, they will have to accept the reality that all India vs. Pakistan matches will be played at neutral venues. Their denial stems from having placed too much expectation on the BCCI. They are forgetting that BCCI also needs money to survive.

For ICC or BCCI, ind vs pak match is a perk to earn extra moolah..like any businessmen they just play cards and throw bones to earn extra revenue..India at max play pak once in two years for a match or two..without playing Pakistan India still the richest

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's quite funny for those of us who can recall the first time the World Cup was held in the subcontinent across India and Pakistan. The excitement over the tournament was so great in front of packed out stadiums in both India and Pakistan, and any matches between the two brought both nations to a standstill. Now they are fighting to avoid playing cricket in these great occasions.

That's progress!

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Naah. It is the reverse.

Pakistanis will have to live with the hope that they don't play in India.

Reality is different from "Agreements".

2023 AC, 2023 WC, 2025 CT all were hosted the way India wanted even if there were "agreements" before. NOTHING has been hosted the way Pak wanted. That is the REALITY ie what actually happened.

Welcome to your reality. Your two-year subscription just kicked in, and there is no cancel button.

ICC approves hybrid model for Champions Trophy 2025, extends the same policy to ICC events hosted by either country during the 2024-2027 rights cycle

 

[saimayubera]

Welcome to your reality. Your two-year subscription just kicked in, and there is no cancel button.

ICC approves hybrid model for Champions Trophy 2025, extends the same policy to ICC events hosted by either country during the 2024-2027 rights cycle

Lol.

ICC also approved Champion's Trophy 2025 fully in Pakistan. What happened to that?

That is the reality.

 

[saimayubera]

Bruh let them have their "win". Claiming fake victories is in their dna.

BCCI have effectively taken 1/3rd of the tournament out of their country in return for their games to be held in co-host Sri Lanka (which was likely happening anyways) lmao. If this is a W, we'd love seeing pakistan taking more and more such Ws in the near future.

When 2026 comes around, BCCI will make noise and the "compromise" will be semi/finals played in Ind with group stage matches played in SL.

If you believe BCCI will let Ind play a KO outside Ind, I have some Gwadar oil reserves to sell you.

 

[shah9425]

Everything needs to be in writing

So BCCI does not make any fuss again

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Lol.

ICC also approved Champion's Trophy 2025 fully in Pakistan. What happened to that?

That is the reality.

They thought the so-called mighty board would finally grow a backbone and visit Pakistan.

 

[chakdeindian]

Some of my fellow Indian fans here remain hopeful that the BCCI and ICC will reverse their stance and provide them the much needed boost. Unfortunately, they will have to wait nearly two years for that possibility. Until then, they will have to accept the reality that all India vs. Pakistan matches will be played at neutral venues. Their denial stems from having placed too much expectation on the BCCI. They are forgetting that BCCI also needs money to survive.

For BCCI and ICC, Ind vs pak is like an money dweller that they earn..it's like a rich businessman earning extra profit..whereas PCB board is at the mercy of ICC and BCCI to run their board and pay their players..Ind play pak only 2 year once for max 2 matches..and is the richest board..whereas PCB incurred huge loss of revenue once India stopped playing them regularly..ICC and BCCI just acted like a CEO/manager who refused to give the the promotion to an employee, but instead fool him by giving some perks which are of no use to him.. Pakistan had multiple times travelled to India in the past 15 years whereas India never travelled to Pakistan since 2008..the next WC T20 is already a hybrid with srilanka as cohost.. what pak got is a extra women WC that too a hybrid and have to agree hybrid model for CT 25 which was supposed to happen Fully in Pakistan..I don't see win anywhere here for Pak..it's choona laga diya moment..

 

[Pakpak]

It's quite funny for those of us who can recall the first time the World Cup was held in the subcontinent across India and Pakistan. The excitement over the tournament was so great in front of packed out stadiums in both India and Pakistan, and any matches between the two brought both nations to a standstill. Now they are fighting to avoid playing cricket in these great occasions.

That's progress!

Nah, Indians are busy arguing they can't possibly play bilaterals with a nation who supports 'terrorists' and can't send their team to a nation who 'sponsors terrorism' but then in the same breath were holding a tantrums at not being allowed to HOST an alleged terrorism sponsor in their own country.

Make it make sense. So many (non Pakistani) analysts have said these ICC tourneys are a monetary success because of Indo-Pak encounters. Its that PCB has never leveraged this as blackmail because we never stooped as low as BCCI but sometimes you have to. Its also why every single tourney has guaranteed Pakistani Indian games, and draw rigged in a way where its guaranteed we play each other more than once. Its that Pakistan's team has been so garbage we keep getting eliminated at the first stage.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

For BCCI and ICC, Ind vs pak is like an money dweller that they earn..it's like a rich businessman earning extra profit..whereas PCB board is at the mercy of ICC and BCCI to run their board and pay their players..Ind play pak only 2 year once for max 2 matches..and is the richest board..whereas PCB incurred huge loss of revenue once India stopped playing them regularly..ICC and BCCI just acted like a CEO/manager who refused to give the the promotion to an employee, but instead fool him by giving some perks which are of no use to him.. Pakistan had multiple times travelled to India in the past 15 years whereas India never travelled to Pakistan since 2008..the next WC T20 is already a hybrid with srilanka as cohost.. what pak got is a extra women WC that too a hybrid and have to agree hybrid model for CT 25 which was supposed to happen Fully in Pakistan..I don't see win anywhere here for Pak..it's choona laga diya moment..

Using phrases like "some board is at the mercy of the ICC and BCCI" really reveals your thought process. So what if other boards depend on the ICC? If they all left the ICC, who would India play against? The arrogance is baffling. What does that have to do with BCCI refusing to tour Pakistan anyway? Why can't BCCI just admit they want to sabotage the PCB on purpose?

Did any Indian security team even visit Pakistan to check the arrangements for the Champions Trophy? How can they claim Pakistan isn’t safe without conducting their own security assessments? Are the security teams from England, Australia, and New Zealand just a bunch of amateurs for agreeing to tour Pakistan?

 

[msb314]

When 2026 comes around, BCCI will make noise and the "compromise" will be semi/finals played in Ind with group stage matches played in SL.

If you believe BCCI will let Ind play a KO outside Ind, I have some Gwadar oil reserves to sell you.

Then what is the purpose of a Binding Agreement?

 

[saimayubera]

Then what is the purpose of a Binding Agreement?

Just to get Pak to agree to the CT.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nah, Indians are busy arguing they can't possibly play bilaterals with a nation who supports 'terrorists' and can't send their team to a nation who 'sponsors terrorism' but then in the same breath were holding a tantrums at not being allowed to HOST an alleged terrorism sponsor in their own country.

Make it make sense. So many (non Pakistani) analysts have said these ICC tourneys are a monetary success because of Indo-Pak encounters. Its that PCB has never leveraged this as blackmail because we never stooped as low as BCCI but sometimes you have to. Its also why every single tourney has guaranteed Pakistani Indian games, and draw rigged in a way where its guaranteed we play each other more than once. Its that Pakistan's team has been so garbage we keep getting eliminated at the first stage.

I just find it funny. This game used to be about cricket rivalry, now you have got posters coming on here celebrating BCCI victory over not playing cricket in the only continent where anyone gives a crap about the game. What a time to be alive!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Which big match? Have you seen the schedule of the T20WC? Are India and Pakistan in the same group?

Yes let's talk about today. PCB is losing out on hosting of 5 matches.

If India and Pakistan are in separate groups in the T20WC, India won't be losing hosting right of any matches.

They can change the groups because they have time but provisional reports are saying India will travel to Colombo. It depends what agreement BCCI and TV deals come to.

PCB were unable to change groups in this case because the whole tournament hinged on them playing India.

I would be happy if India and Pakistan didn't play in the WC.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

If BCCI is negotiating deals based on hypothetical events that may work in their favour and making pledges and praying they are broken then they are a more incompetent board than PCB.

It's a crazy way to do deals.

 

[Sajeel]

For our caring and lovely Indian brothers on this thread:

“The 'compromise' on the part of the ICC means that for the first time, the Indian cricket team will have to move out from its own country to play Pakistan in an ICC event, despite being the host or co-host. For a country that boasts itself to be a cricket power-house, that might hurt.”

For a country that boasts itself to be a cricket power-house, that might hurt.

Champions Trophy 2025 Venue Out But India, BCCI Pay Big Price Due To ICC 'Compromise' | Cricket News

After months of delay, the International Cricket Council (ICC) finally officially declared the venues of the Champions Trophy

sports.ndtv.com

 

[stani_pak]

Which big match? Have you seen the schedule of the T20WC? Are India and Pakistan in the same group?

Yes let's talk about today. PCB is losing out on hosting of 5 matches.

If India and Pakistan are in separate groups in the T20WC, India won't be losing hosting right of any matches.

India and Pakistan have always been in the same group, I do not think that will change if it does I would be surprised, I would not mind it either, but I think ICC will want them to be in the same group

 

[saimayubera]

For our caring and lovely Indian brothers on this thread:

“The 'compromise' on the part of the ICC means that for the first time, the Indian cricket team will have to move out from its own country to play Pakistan in an ICC event, despite being the host or co-host. For a country that boasts itself to be a cricket power-house, that might hurt.”

For a country that boasts itself to be a cricket power-house, that might hurt.

Champions Trophy 2025 Venue Out But India, BCCI Pay Big Price Due To ICC 'Compromise' | Cricket News

After months of delay, the International Cricket Council (ICC) finally officially declared the venues of the Champions Trophy

sports.ndtv.com

Let it happen first.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Bruh let them have their "win". Claiming fake victories is in their dna.

BCCI have effectively taken 1/3rd of the tournament out of their country in return for their games to be held in co-host Sri Lanka (which was likely happening anyways) lmao. If this is a W, we'd love seeing pakistan taking more and more such Ws in the near future.

BCCI has effectively taken out 1/3 ? lol BCCI used its influence like a cry baby and refused to travel. which powers BCCI used here? Everyone knows Tournament is not possible without India. if BCCI throws tantrums about not traveling , PCB cant force you guys. Good thing is BCCI or ICC can neither force Pakistan to travel. Group Game or knock out. That decision will be taken by PCB not anyone else if they end up qualifying which is unlikely though.

And i believe broadcasters will not let go of group game. India will travel to colombo for that. They did it in 2011 Against BD. If they change the group to avoid it and have false sense of victory like winning a war.. so be it

NOBODY CARES

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

My point was how conveniently it is "10 years" and not "15 years" or "20 years" lol.

That's why the "10 years" in quotes.

What has Pakistan won in the last "5 years", "6 years"? An Asia Cup even?

you can go back further and look at the overall record of Pakistan v india if you want to satisfy your cravings for history.

The clue is you wont like what you see.

The point was relevant to another poster but you jumped in getting all happy without reading.

In future read and Don't waste my time tagging me in for petit stuff.

 

[Ozeirk]

Knock out games are included in this agreement as confirmed on Dawn and cricinfo. This is the best outcome for pakistan and sort of a loss for bcci as they would have to travel to foreign venues to play pakistan when the tournament is hosted by them. Indian people will be deprived of watching an india vs pakistan match on their soil for the foreseeable future.

 

[Slim]

Knock out games are included in this agreement as confirmed on Dawn and cricinfo. This is the best outcome for pakistan and sort of a loss for bcci as they would have to travel to foreign venues to play pakistan when the tournament is hosted by them. Indian people will be deprived of watching an india vs pakistan match on their soil for the foreseeable future.

Knockout games confirmed by cricinfo? I will take that as W, a compromised W at that. I do still feel sad that we have to play our tournament in a neutral country. Lanat on BCCI and Indian govt. Pathetic lowlifes.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

For BCCI and ICC, Ind vs pak is like an money dweller that they earn..it's like a rich businessman earning extra profit..whereas PCB board is at the mercy of ICC and BCCI to run their board and pay their players..Ind play pak only 2 year once for max 2 matches..and is the richest board..whereas PCB incurred huge loss of revenue once India stopped playing them regularly..ICC and BCCI just acted like a CEO/manager who refused to give the the promotion to an employee, but instead fool him by giving some perks which are of no use to him.. Pakistan had multiple times travelled to India in the past 15 years whereas India never travelled to Pakistan since 2008..the next WC T20 is already a hybrid with srilanka as cohost.. what pak got is a extra women WC that too a hybrid and have to agree hybrid model for CT 25 which was supposed to happen Fully in Pakistan..I don't see win anywhere here for Pak..it's choona laga diya moment..

You don't actually understand what has happened do you.

The indian board wanted the CT totally removed from Pakistan but flopped and had to settle for fusion / hybrid model.

They also wanted Pakistan to play their matches in india when they hosted which Pakistan refused and why this whole drama has taken weeks.

Pakistan then threatened to pull out of the CT if the Tournament was totally removed from Pakistan.

The broadcasters wanted the Pakistan v india games at all costs other wise the richest board would loose money and not be so rich and the ICC would be over.

Without the Pakistan v india games the ICC and the other boards are done financially which means INTL cricket would seize to exist.

The alternative for the richest board was to show their financial power and ego and pay all the other boards and The ICC for all the lost revenue occurred every ICC tournament which obviously isn't sustainable as the richest board would go bust.

Overall Pakistan has kept the CT on a fusion/ Hybrid model, Got a Woman's WC Tournament, Being paid compensation for the fusion model and wont play any games v india in india for the foreseeable cycle.

Morale of the story is without Pakistan cricket stops otherwise this wouldn't of gone on for weeks.

It takes two to Tango and without us you aint selling S**t.

Tough pill for the hardcore indian nationists to swallow but its just Plain hard facts based on current reality.

Nationalist Propaganda and ego clouds judgement.

 

[Ozeirk]

Once the precedent is established of Pakistan playing on neutral venues it will be impossible to change that.

 

[saimayubera]

you can go back further and look at the overall record of Pakistan v india if you want to satisfy your cravings for history.

The clue is you wont like what you see.

The point was relevant to another poster but you jumped in getting all happy without reading.

In future read and Don't waste my time tagging me in for petit stuff.

Why Pak vs India?

Why not overall cricket records including trophies won?



Everyone knows Pakistan's "H2H" record vs India is simply due to not playing when Ind is stronger. Just another selective stat to make Pak look good like "ICC trophies in last 10 years". Not 5 years. Not 15 years. Not 20 years. Not World Cups.

Very specific "ICC tournaments in last 10 years"

Similarly why specifically "India vs Pak H2H (this also they quote ODIs and tests)". Why not overall W/L ratio in all 3 formats?

Keep hanging on to these tiny crumbs. They become tinier every year.

There was this poster here who had this signature.

Pak bowlers with average below 25 - 3. Ind - 0.

Since then Ind have got 3 bowlers with average below 25. Pak are still stuck at 3.

I think his name was W63L35. Right now it's W73L57. So it has been 22-11 in ODIs since he opened his account lol. T20s 10-3. Tests 1-0. So overall 33-14.

"India does not produce pppphhaaast" bowlers is gone with Bumrah having better stats than their greatest phaaast bowlers while their own pace factory has gone defunct. Even their great hope Shaheen is becoming a white ball specialist.

"No ICC trophies in last 10 years" has become "Same number of ICC trophies in last 10 years". Again, "ICC trophies", not "World Cups" or "multi-team tournaments".

 

[saimayubera]

You don't actually understand what has happened do you.

The indian board wanted the CT totally removed from Pakistan but flopped and had to settle for fusion / hybrid model.

They also wanted Pakistan to play their matches in india when they hosted which Pakistan refused and why this whole drama has taken weeks.

Pakistan then threatened to pull out of the CT if the Tournament was totally removed from Pakistan.

The broadcasters wanted the Pakistan v india games at all costs other wise the richest board would loose money and not be so rich and the ICC would be over.

Without the Pakistan v india games the ICC and the other boards are done financially which means INTL cricket would seize to exist.

The alternative for the richest board was to show their financial power and ego and pay all the other boards and The ICC for all the lost revenue occurred every ICC tournament which obviously isn't sustainable as the richest board would go bust.

Overall Pakistan has kept the CT on a fusion/ Hybrid model, Got a Woman's WC Tournament, Being paid compensation for the fusion model and wont play any games v india in india for the foreseeable cycle.

Morale of the story is without Pakistan cricket stops otherwise this wouldn't of gone on for weeks.

It takes two to Tango and without us you aint selling S**t.

Tough pill for the hardcore indian nationists to swallow but its just Plain hard facts based on current reality.

Nationalist Propaganda and ego clouds judgement.

No compensation has been paid. And we'll see about India playing it's games outside India. Just like we saw Pak host the Asia Cup 2023 and CT 2025 completely as well as not come to India in WC 2023 or India coming to Pak for bilateral series post 2012.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Everyone knows Pakistan's "H2H" record vs India is simply due to not playing when Ind is stronger. Just another selective stat to make Pak look good like "ICC trophies in last 10 years". Not 5 years. Not 15 years. Not 20 years. Not World Cups.

Its India that refuses to play not Pakistan

Last Bilateral Series in your backyard , Pakistan with unknown players like Junaid khan and Muhammd Irfan almost white washed your Champion team the famous “ aanay do “ series

H2H is better because India is stronger and matches do not happen Dude India continuously refused to play Pakistan in 90s when Pakistan was miles ahead and stronger . Otherwise Scoreline would be more like 100-60 only played 3 tests in whole decade and our team won 2 of those in your backyard.

 

[Pakpak]

Its India that refuses to play not Pakistan

Last Bilateral Series in your backyard , Pakistan with unknown players like Junaid khan and Muhammd Irfan almost white washed your Champion team the famous “ aanay do “ series

H2H is better because India is stronger and matches do not happen Dude India continuously refused to play Pakistan in 90s when Pakistan was miles ahead and stronger . Otherwise Scoreline would be more like 100-60 only played 3 tests in whole decade and our team won 2 of those in your backyard.

I've watched so many I've games those years. I remember this Pepsi cup too where we destroyed India in India continuously in a tri series.


Funny thing is with how poor we have been India had a golden chance to even the record last 15 years. It's gone now.

 

[Pakpak]

Its India that refuses to play not Pakistan

Last Bilateral Series in your backyard , Pakistan with unknown players like Junaid khan and Muhammd Irfan almost white washed your Champion team the famous “ aanay do “ series

H2H is better because India is stronger and matches do not happen Dude India continuously refused to play Pakistan in 90s when Pakistan was miles ahead and stronger . Otherwise Scoreline would be more like 100-60 only played 3 tests in whole decade and our team won 2 of those in your backyard.

We also won more ODIs more Tests against India in India and in Pakistan.

If I was Indian I'd be livid BCCI didn't allow my team to play Pakistan last 15 years. They could have repaid some of those losses.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Former Pakistan cricketers speaking as the Champions Trophy deadlock ends:

Javed Miandad said:

"I think the PCB took the sensible approach and instead of doing something rash and facing isolation in the ICC and among other cricket nations, it opted for a solution where I think the PCB has gained more than the BCCI."

"Still Pakistan is hosting a big event after a very long time and we have sent a clear message that if you don't come and play in our country; we will also not play in India."


Former captain Wasim Bari said:

"I can only imagine the warm welcome and hospitality their players and fans would get in Pakistan."


Former captain of Pakistan, Moin Khan said:

"If the PCB has been able to also get another ICC event to host it is good news for Pakistan cricket.”


Former spinner for Pakistan, Iqbal Qasim said:

"BCCI is a very strong and financially influential board. But unlike last year's Asia Cup, this time our board took a stance, and gained something. Main thing is we are hosting the tournament and will also not go to India now to play in ICC events. Both teams will now play at neutral venues."

 

[Mesozoic]

BCCI has effectively taken out 1/3 ? lol BCCI used its influence like a cry baby and refused to travel. which powers BCCI used here?

All BCCI said was "We can't visit Pakistan as we do not have e the clearance from GOI".

 

[Mesozoic]

We also won more ODIs more Tests against India in India and in Pakistan.

If I was Indian I'd be livid BCCI didn't allow my team to play Pakistan last 15 years. They could have repaid some of those losses.

Congratulations on the coca cups wins from dinosaur era who no-one even remembers or cares about.

We are happy with our 15-1 record at the World Cups and double the number of ICC titles than you guys.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

All BCCI said was "We can't visit Pakistan as we do not have e the clearance from GOI".

Indians crave power over Pakistan , and they chose cricket to exercise it because thats the best your lot can do. Even in Cricket , PCB despite being lot smaller and tiny compared to BCCI stood up for its rights. PS no need for BCCI to hide behind Government excuses we all know the truth

 

[saimayubera]

Its India that refuses to play not Pakistan

Last Bilateral Series in your backyard , Pakistan with unknown players like Junaid khan and Muhammd Irfan almost white washed your Champion team the famous “ aanay do “ series

H2H is better because India is stronger and matches do not happen Dude India continuously refused to play Pakistan in 90s when Pakistan was miles ahead and stronger . Otherwise Scoreline would be more like 100-60 only played 3 tests in whole decade and our team won 2 of those in your backyard.

Lol that bilateral series came during the transition period.

During 04-07 India played 4 series and won 3, including BOTH in Pakistan. And this was done with guys like Balaji lol. Almost got whitewashed 4-1 in 2006 which is more impressive than a 2-1.

Balaji even delivered a test series win in Pakistan with two innings wins. That team had guys like Inzy, Youhana, Younis, Shoaib etc.

100-60 lol. Pak fans exaggerate their team from the 90s. It was never the best team in the world, merely better than India.

In the 90s Pak-Ind W/L was 28-18 with W/L ratio of 1.555 and Pak lost the biggest match of that decade - the 96 WC QF lol.

In the 2010s Ind-Pak W/L ratio is 15-5 with W/L ratio of 3 which is TWICE as better than 90s and Ind won the biggest match of the decade - the 11 WC SF in Mohali.

In the 2020s it is 5-2 ie 2.5 which is again better than the 90s

Ind in the 10s-20s has been way better than Pak in the 90s.

Everyone can see Pak benefited from not playing Ind in the 10s and 20s. If they played W/L ratio would be like 150-80 lol.

 

[Mesozoic]

Indians crave power over Pakistan , and they chose cricket to exercise it because thats the best your lot can do. Even in Cricket , PCB despite being lot smaller and tiny compared to BCCI stood up for its rights. PS no need for BCCI to hide behind Government excuses we all know the truth

Another logic less post reeking of small dog complex.. "Indians crave power over Pakistan"

BCCI cannot send the Indian team anywhere without clearance from the Indian government.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Another logic less post reeking of small dog complex.. "Indians crave power over Pakistan"

BCCI cannot send the Indian team anywhere without clearance from the Indian government.

BCCI is cry baby that hides behind Government

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Ind in the 10s-20s has been way better than Pak in the 90s.

In 10s India was nt better

India 3 Pak 2 2004
Pak won 4 Consecutive Games after 2004 series
Tri Series Win in Netherlands
Golden Jubilee Win in Calcutta
Asia cup win in 2004
Champions Trophy win in 2004
2005 we toured India and Pak won 4 India 2

By End of Decade’s half

It was Pak 10 Ind 5 in ODIs

In 2006 Ind 4 Pak 1
In 2007 Ind 3 Pak 2
Kitply Cup 2008 Pak wins final India won Group Game
2008 Asia cup Ind 1 Pak 1
couple Games in UAE ind 1 Pak 1
2009 Pak wins CT game in centurion
2010 India wins Asia cup Game

from 2004-2010 Pak 17 Ind 16

Delusion has no boundaries

Pak was even stevens until 2017 CT starting from 2004. only after 2018 Ind consecutively won ODIs Against Pak

 

[ChennaiFan]

It is better for both countries to not to host each other.

For the Indian government, they can sell their agenda to the insecure Indian public, and their useless visa processing can take a back seat. For pakistan, they need not visit their dhusman mulk.

 

[Mesozoic]

BCCI is cry baby that hides behind Government

BCCI is a money making organisation that would happily play Pakistan in bilateral series home and away to rake in that sweet Jio/Stat broadcasting moolah, if things were under their control..

You are as clueless as it gets.

 

[Mesozoic]

In 10s India was nt better

India 3 Pak 2 2004

This guy doesn't even know what 2010s mean and he's arguing desperately here lmao.

2010s are 2010-2019, my friend.

 

[Pakpak]

In 10s India was nt better

India 3 Pak 2 2004
Pak won 4 Consecutive Games after 2004 series
Tri Series Win in Netherlands
Golden Jubilee Win in Calcutta
Asia cup win in 2004
Champions Trophy win in 2004
2005 we toured India and Pak won 4 India 2

By End of Decade’s half

It was Pak 10 Ind 5 in ODIs

In 2006 Ind 4 Pak 1
In 2007 Ind 3 Pak 2
Kitply Cup 2008 Pak wins final India won Group Game
2008 Asia cup Ind 1 Pak 1
couple Games in UAE ind 1 Pak 1
2009 Pak wins CT game in centurion
2010 India wins Asia cup Game

from 2004-2010 Pak 17 Ind 16

Delusion has no boundaries

Pak was even stevens until 2017 CT starting from 2004. only after 2018 Ind consecutively won ODIs Against Pak

That to many of these games after 2010 India had home advantage (despite their wins at home we still have more wins in India against India)

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

This guy doesn't even know what 2010s mean and he's arguing desperately here lmao.

2010s are 2010-2019, my friend.

lol

your guy said we were good in 90s

Then conveniently Escaped 2000s to prove a point He did mention 2000s games in his post. Go read that , and for you Instead of pointing out a mistake in Years , Try to counter with argument.

How was India better in 2000s? I know all The Games on back of My Hand. Tests and ODIs. Pakistan with a team that was transitioning from Inzi Era toured India that had full list of Legends available and only managed to win 1 test out of three

Lets talk about 2010s then

2011 Ind wins Semi of CWC
2012 India wins Asia cup Game
2012 Pak wins Anay do series 2-1
2013 Ind win CT game
2014 Pak wins Asia Cup Game
2015 Ind Wins CWC game
2017 Ind Wins Group Game Ct
2017 Pak win CT final ( Trumps all wins of India previously. Pak ranked 8th Demolished Number 1 Ranked Indian side )
2018 Ind Wins 2 Asian Games
2019 India wins CWC game

India 9 Pak 4 With CT Final win Trumps additional victories

 

[saimayubera]

In 10s India was nt better

India 3 Pak 2 2004
Pak won 4 Consecutive Games after 2004 series
Tri Series Win in Netherlands
Golden Jubilee Win in Calcutta
Asia cup win in 2004
Champions Trophy win in 2004
2005 we toured India and Pak won 4 India 2

By End of Decade’s half

It was Pak 10 Ind 5 in ODIs

In 2006 Ind 4 Pak 1
In 2007 Ind 3 Pak 2
Kitply Cup 2008 Pak wins final India won Group Game
2008 Asia cup Ind 1 Pak 1
couple Games in UAE ind 1 Pak 1
2009 Pak wins CT game in centurion
2010 India wins Asia cup Game

from 2004-2010 Pak 17 Ind 16

Delusion has no boundaries

Pak was even stevens until 2017 CT starting from 2004. only after 2018 Ind consecutively won ODIs Against Pak

Do you even understand mathematics?

10s refers to 2010-2019 just like 90s refers to 1990-1999 and 80s refer to 1980-1989

No even stevens till CT.

India won loads up till then and loads after. There was a period from 2013-17 and then from 18-21 and now from 22 onwards where Pak could not win a single match.

Just fake facts to justify stuff.

2010s it is 15-5 (those 5 are 3 in the 2012 series, 2014 AC, 2017 CT final)

2020s it is 5-2

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Do you even understand mathematics?

10s refers to 2010-2019 just like 90s refers to 1990-1999 and 80s refer to 1980-1989

No even stevens till CT.

India won loads up till then and loads after. There was a period from 2013-17 and then from 18-21 and now from 22 onwards where Pak could not win a single match.

Just fake facts to justify stuff.

2010s it is 15-5 (those 5 are 3 in the 2012 series, 2014 AC, 2017 CT final)

2020s it is 5-2

why do you want to escape 2000s? India had better team

2010s CT win trumps all Indian meaningless victories

 

[saimayubera]

lol

your guy said we were good in 90s

Then conveniently Escaped 2000s to prove a point He did mention 2000s games in his post. Go read that , and for you Instead of pointing out a mistake in Years , Try to counter with argument.

How was India better in 2000s? I know all The Games on back of My Hand. Tests and ODIs. Pakistan with a team that was transitioning from Inzi Era toured India that had full list of Legends available and only managed to win 1 test out of three

Lets talk about 2010s then

2011 Ind wins Semi of CWC
2012 India wins Asia cup Game
2012 Pak wins Anay do series 2-1
2013 Ind win CT game
2014 Pak wins Asia Cup Game
2015 Ind Wins CWC game
2017 Ind Wins Group Game Ct
2017 Pak win CT final ( Trumps all wins of India previously. Pak ranked 8th Demolished Number 1 Ranked Indian side )
2018 Ind Wins 2 Asian Games
2019 India wins CWC game

India 9 Pak 4 With CT Final win Trumps additional victories

lol no

There is an additional AC game in 2010 so it is Ind 10-4.

And 2017 CT can NEVER trump the biggest defeat of India on Pak - Mohali 2011 - The SEMI-FINAL of a WORLD CUP, the biggest tournament in cricket. It was so big that the prime ministers of both countries attended.

No amount of denial aur lying can make that CT 17 win equal to the Mohali semi. In fact, Pak has lost to India in the FINAL of a World Cup - 2007 T20 WC.

Pak's Champion's Trophy win in 2017 is equivalent to Ind's 1985 win over Pak in WSC, the Champion's Trophy of that time. Unless Pak can defeat India in a World Cup semi or final, Mohali 2011 and Joburg 07 will not be topped.

The unimportance of Champion's Trophy can be understood by it being hosted in Pakistan, who last hosted a world cup in 96 (where they got their ass kicked by India too).

Also love how you skip the T20s which is 5-1 Ind where Ind kicked Pak out in 2014 and 2016.

As far as the 00s goes Ind won 3/4 ODI series and 2/4 test series and was only one to win both home-away (Pak didn't win ODIs at home and tests away). Pak's wins were in multinational tournaments like AC and CT where they did not even win the cup.

Also the biggest match of the 00s remains the 07 T20 WC final which Pakistan lost again to India.

 

[saimayubera]

why do you want to escape 2000s? India had better team

2010s CT win trumps all Indian meaningless victories

Naah 2007 WC win and 2011 WC win trumps all Pakistani meaningless victories.

CT is a meaningless cup compared to a LITERAL WC.

I mean Pakistan elected as prime minister a guy cause he won their only WC.

The biggest match of the 2010s and in Ind-Pak history was Mohali 2011, a semi of a WC where the prime ministers of both countries attended. Pak lost that inflicting permanent trauma on all Pak cricket goers.

CT is an unserious tournament in comparison whose schedule has not yet been finalized a month out lol. It is equivalent to the 1985 WSC that India won (where they defeated Pak twice including the final).

 

[saimayubera]

why do you want to escape 2000s? India had better team

2010s CT win trumps all Indian meaningless victories

As far as the 00s goes Ind won 3/4 ODI series and 2/4 test series and was only one to win both home-away (Pak didn't win ODIs at home and tests away). Pak's wins were in multinational tournaments like AC and CT where they did not even win the cup.

Also the biggest match of the 00s remains the 07 T20 WC final which Pakistan lost again to India.

Pakistan's 00s win were front loaded when they still had the 90's guys. Fairly even during the 03-07 period (Although India won more series). Downhill post 07.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Naah 2007 WC win and 2011 WC win trumps all Pakistani meaningless victories.

CT is a meaningless cup compared to a LITERAL WC.

I mean Pakistan elected as prime minister a guy cause he won their only WC.

The biggest match of the 2010s and in Ind-Pak history was Mohali 2011, a semi of a WC where the prime ministers of both countries attended. Pak lost that inflicting permanent trauma on all Pak cricket goers.

CT is an unserious tournament in comparison whose schedule has not yet been finalized a month out lol. It is equivalent to the 1985 WSC that India won (where they defeated Pak twice including the final).

CT 2017 win remains one of the famous ones . it was one epic come from Behind story .. Where Pak ranked Number 8 struggling to qualify for CT not even managed to win the tournament , They defeated the best ODI team of that era India was better team in 2011 .. Equally good in 2007… But Pakistan was nt better in 2017… So CT win remains one the most epic.. You can deny it all you want

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

As far as the 00s goes Ind won 3/4 ODI series and 2/4 test series and was only one to win both home-away (Pak didn't win ODIs at home and tests away). Pak's wins were in multinational tournaments like AC and CT where they did not even win the cup.

Also the biggest match of the 00s remains the 07 T20 WC final which Pakistan lost again to India.

Pakistan's 00s win were front loaded when they still had the 90's guys. Fairly even during the 03-07 period (Although India won more series). Downhill post 07.

lol you will count the series wins in 2000s and then switch to game wins in 2010

By your logic only series that happened in 2010s , Pak won that

So from 2004-2012 Series counter is 3-2 but Pak also won Tri nation Kitplay cup right after Ind won 2007 home ODi series

 

[saimayubera]

CT 2017 win remains one of the famous ones . it was one epic come from Behind story .. Where Pak ranked Number 8 struggling to qualify for CT not even managed to win the tournament , They defeated the best ODI team of that era India was better team in 2011 .. Equally good in 2007… But Pakistan was nt better in 2017… So CT win remains one the most epic.. You can deny it all you want

Lol still remains a CT lol.

I mean THAT Aus team lost in CT 00 to India, 02 to SL, 04 to someone. No one gives an f cause they won all the WC.

Even India has two CTs. No one gives an f about them.

Pak celebrate their CT win cause they are not even close to winning a WC. One semi this century (tied with Kenya).

Nothing will be bigger than Mohali 2011 - the most IMPORTANT match in Ind Pak history.

CT 2017 is like WCC 1985 when Ind defeated a strong Pak team. That was the CT of the 80s.

IND vs PAK Cricket Scorecard, Final at Melbourne, March 10, 1985

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get India vs Pakistan Final, cricket scorecard, Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket 1984/85 dated March 10, 1985.

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[saimayubera]

lol you will count the series wins in 2000s and then switch to game wins in 2010

By your logic only series that happened in 2010s , Pak won that

So from 2004-2012 Series counter is 3-2 but Pak also won Tri nation Kitplay cup right after Ind won 2007 home ODi series

lol even if you look at 2010s Ind has more series/cup wins. Let's look at series in 2010s as well.

Cause if you are including Kitply cups then look at WCs and ACs and CTs as well (which have more teams than Kitply cups and are more competitive)

Let's look at series/cups won where Ind def Pak or o/w

2000s
Ind won 3 bilateral ODI series
Ind won 2 bilateral test series
Ind won 2007 T20 WC

Pak won 1 bilateral ODI series
Pak won 1 bilateral test series
Pak won Kitply cup

So that's 6-3

2010s
Ind won 2011 WC
Ind won 2013 CT
Ind won 2010 AC
Ind won 2016 AC
Ind won 2018 AC

Pak won 1 bilateral ODI series
Pak won 2017 CT

That's 5-2

2020s
Ind won 2023 AC
Ind won 2024 T20 WC

That's 2-0

So in all three decades, India has had way more meaningful wins than Pak. Pak's wins are like in 14 AC or 21 T20 WC or 09 CT where they did not even win the cup.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Lol still remains a CT lol.

I mean THAT Aus team lost in CT 00 to India, 02 to SL, 04 to someone. No one gives an f cause they won all the WC.

Even India has two CTs. No one gives an f about them.

Pak celebrate their CT win cause they are not even close to winning a WC. One semi this century (tied with Kenya).

Nothing will be bigger than Mohali 2011 - the most IMPORTANT match in Ind Pak history.

CT 2017 is like WCC 1985 when Ind defeated a strong Pak team. That was the CT of the 80s.

IND vs PAK Cricket Scorecard, Final at Melbourne, March 10, 1985

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get India vs Pakistan Final, cricket scorecard, Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket 1984/85 dated March 10, 1985.

www.espncricinfo.com

CT in 2000s was nt a premier tournament. but it was in 2017. and India was defending champion . Match was on neutral ground Mohali win is your home win with home advantage with Better players.. it was nt epic Ind should have won that with all the advantage they had. Ind has nt played any Game in Pakistan as far any tournament is concerned. so Judgement is out there

1990s Pak was way better
2000s Both equally Good
2010-2017 Both head to head Equally good with India gaining couple extra wins
2018 onward India did dominate but since we dnt play any series we will never know what we missed out on

INDIA HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO REPLICATE PAK’s 1990 dominance in any era . If your Board did nt play thats not our Issue

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

lol even if you look at 2010s Ind has more series/cup wins. Let's look at series in 2010s as well.

Cause if you are including Kitply cups then look at WCs and ACs and CTs as well (which have more teams than Kitply cups and are more competitive)

Let's look at series/cups won where Ind def Pak or o/w

2000s
Ind won 3 bilateral ODI series
Ind won 2 bilateral test series
Ind won 2007 T20 WC

Pak won 1 bilateral ODI series
Pak won 1 bilateral test series
Pak won Kitply cup

So that's 6-3

2010s
Ind won 2011 WC
Ind won 2013 CT
Ind won 2010 AC
Ind won 2016 AC
Ind won 2018 AC

Pak won 1 bilateral ODI series
Pak won 2017 CT

That's 5-2

2020s
Ind won 2023 AC
Ind won 2024 T20 WC

That's 2-0

So in all three decades, India has had way more meaningful wins than Pak. Pak's wins are like in 14 AC or 21 T20 WC or 09 CT where they did not even win the cup.

hahahaha i included kitply coz we defeated you in the final

 

[Hawkeye]

It's quite funny for those of us who can recall the first time the World Cup was held in the subcontinent across India and Pakistan. The excitement over the tournament was so great in front of packed out stadiums in both India and Pakistan, and any matches between the two brought both nations to a standstill. Now they are fighting to avoid playing cricket in these great occasions.

That's progress!

I wasn’t there to witness it.

But that was the ideal time to fix our relations and solve all border disputes for good.

It would have led to immense benefits for the current and future generations.

 

[saimayubera]

CT in 2000s was nt a premier tournament. but it was in 2017. and India was defending champion . Match was on neutral ground Mohali win is your home win with home advantage with Better players.. it was nt epic Ind should have won that with all the advantage they had. Ind has nt played any Game in Pakistan as far any tournament is concerned. so Judgement is out there

1990s Pak was way better
2000s Both equally Good
2010-2017 Both head to head Equally good with India gaining couple extra wins
2018 onward India did dominate but since we dnt play any series we will never know what we missed out on

INDIA HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO REPLICATE PAK’s 1990 dominance in any era . If your Board did nt play thats not our Issue

Lol how conveniently it became important in 2017.

Thing is it was NEVER important.

1990s - Pak better
2000s - Even but Ind won more series/trophies
2010s - Ind way better than Pak was in the 90s (W/L ratio attests to that. Also Ind defeated Pak in biggest match in 10s - Mohali 2011. Pak couldn't in 90s - Bangalore 96)
2020s - Ind way better. Pak only won in a couple of dew affected T20s chasing.

 

[saimayubera]

hahahaha i included kitply coz we defeated you in the final

lol then include all the other tournaments india won where pak were not good enough to get into the final.

2010, 2016, 2018, 2023 AC. All of these India won and Pak didn't even make it to the finals cause they kept losing to Bangladesh (twice ) and Sri Lanka. India was also responsible for kicking them out by defeating them.