Should PCB boycott ICC Champions Trophy 2025 if ICC demands a hybrid model to please BCCI?

Should PCB boycott ICC Champions Trophy 2025 if ICC demands a hybrid model to please BCCI?


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Pakistan survives on ICC share. ICC can take that away.

BCCI doesn't have any bilateral relations with PCB. Yet they make billions. PCB makes peanuts.

Tells you who the ATM is.
No Pak India matches in major tournaments will put all the broadcast deals in jeopardy.
 
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No Pak India matches in major tournaments will put all the broadcast deals in jeopardy.

Which BCCI deal is in jeopardy due to absence of Pakistanis?

Out of $3.2bn, $3bn is from the Indian broadcaster.

As long as Indian team plays another top team, Indians will watch.
 
Keep lying to yourself.
Lying to myself or are you? Who does India have a problem with the most (politically) and vise versa for Pakistan? And then these two idiotic boards bring in the politics to cricket and rest of the world has to suffer for this nonsense. If you ask me, both are the issue.
 
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No Pak India matches in major tournaments will put all the broadcast deals in jeopardy.

Will definitely have an impact.

The replacement team is simply no match for an India-Pakistan game. No one is running "Mauka Mauka" ads for a game against WI or SL.

Broadcasters would rather see a hybrid model where India goes to Dubai/SL to play Pakistan even if India is the host. They could care less about in-stadium revenue.
 
Will definitely have an impact.

The replacement team is simply no match for an India-Pakistan game. No one is running "Mauka Mauka" ads for a game against WI or SL.

Broadcasters would rather see a hybrid model where India goes to Dubai/SL to play Pakistan even if India is the host. They could care less about in-stadium revenue.
The ad revenue is much much higher. The viewership is higher. If $ is all that matters according to Indians then there is a lot of $ being left on the table in the absence of Pak-India matches. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t be placing the teams in the same group trying to get them to play as much as possible.
 
If this happens and CT 25 either gets canceled or moved permanently, than PCB can say goodbye to any chance of hosting any ICC tournaments for foreseeable future. Forget BCCI, no other boards, especially the smaller ones will ever support thier bid. Expect the broadcasters also to put a tough clause in next bidding cycle and have separate bid prices if PCB gets hosting rights. Overall it will be a disaster for most and the only boards which wiko come out strong will be BCCI, ACB and ECB.
It's propaganda media spreading these false news
 
The ad revenue is much much higher. The viewership is higher. If $ is all that matters according to Indians then there is a lot of $ being left on the table in the absence of Pak-India matches. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t be placing the teams in the same group trying to get them to play as much as possible.

Another delusion.

The most sought after cricket property in the world is IPL and pakistanis don't play it.
 
Will definitely have an impact.

The replacement team is simply no match for an India-Pakistan game. No one is running "Mauka Mauka" ads for a game against WI or SL.

Broadcasters would rather see a hybrid model where India goes to Dubai/SL to play Pakistan even if India is the host. They could care less about in-stadium revenue.

Impact yes. But it can be managed. You think the absence of Pakistan will cost more than $35mn that Pakistan won't be getting?
 
Let PCB not visit UAE.

This pakistani delusion of pakistan being the ATM because of Indo-Pak match needs to be broken

IPL ban hasn't taught them a lesson.
If PCB agreed for hybrid model in UAE than boycott india vs pakistan match without solid reason .its May lead to very lose for pakistan .

force majeure applies only for two reason
1) Security
2) political

Pakistan cant use both of them in UAE as Their Political relations with UAE is very good

If Pakistan Play security reasons than UAE sekh Will open pants of pakistan official who gave security reasons . :kp
 
ICC is also putting Australia and NZ in SAme group most of the times. No?
Keya baat hai teri joshilay. You brought new angle to the whole discussion even though its made up but i must commend you that even though you are as old as a fossil yet your gymnastic skills are on point.
 
Impact yes. But it can be managed. You think the absence of Pakistan will cost more than $35mn that Pakistan won't be getting?

But do they really want to manage it?

The stability of a confirmed India-Pakistan match (sometimes multiple in the same tournament) is hard to ignore. Broadcasters don't just look at previous stats but also the potential for even more eyes. These games and of course Indian knockout matches offer more potential than any other game.

Look there's no doubt the BCCI can manage. Heck, they can manage on IPL money alone for decades. But I just don't think they want to because businesses don't run like that nor are they a charity. They want the easiest path to maximum returns.

You never want the broadcasters to go back and say "Well that wasn't worth it!" next time bids are made. People were already criticizing them for overpaying for the rights.
 
No ones being naive except you. Pakistan visited WC 2023 in India where Hindutva terrorists shouted at them in Modi Stadium. You lot even held a dance and song before the match, did you forget?


The problem is India and only India. Petty pathetic small hearted.
Right, how do you think all these issue arises? Events from outside of cricket. ICC panders to India because of more money. If Pakistan was in India's shoe, it would have been vise versa. Not saying am ok with what India does, it's completely stupid to do this to another team when it comes to sports but don't expect pak to be clean on this either. Read this again - political issues are spewing into cricket from both of this nation and it's hurting other nations who are stuck in the middle from both these boards.

India and Bangladesh has quite alot of political issues aswell, however that isn't spewing into cricket. Like I said, takes two hands to clap, not just one.
 
Right, how do you think all these issue arises? Events from outside of cricket. ICC panders to India because of more money. If Pakistan was in India's shoe, it would have been vise versa. Not saying am ok with what India does, it's completely stupid to do this to another team when it comes to sports but don't expect pak to be clean on this either. Read this again - political issues are spewing into cricket from both of this nation and it's hurting other nations who are stuck in the middle from both these boards.

India and Bangladesh has quite alot of political issues aswell, however that isn't spewing into cricket. Like I said, takes two hands to clap, not just one.
Still wrong.

You make zero sense.

Has Pakistan stopped its cricket team from coming to India? No.

Is india blackmailing Pakistan by refusing to come to Pakistan for the tournament and hijacking it? Yes.

Have they done it before? Yes, Asia cup.

India is the only problem - cancer of world cricket.
 
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No Pak India matches in major tournaments will put all the broadcast deals in jeopardy.
I hope it happens, i hope international cricket burns to the ground. And i will enjoy it. Because thats what BCCI wanted all along. Let them have it. Let them have IPLs whole year. Cricket is an India only sport. Let them have it.
 
So you should be happy that cancer is not coming to pakistan. hope this will propel a new international cricket organization under Pak leadeship
I personally am happy to not have India come to Pakistan but ICC is too pathetic to replace them with Sri Lanka.
 
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That I agree with, the BCCI will want to see how things unfold. But most businesses prefer stability in the entertainment business and that India-Pak game is as stable as it gets. Other games might go up or down in ratings each tournament, but that game won't.
I don't think we are on the same page. BCCI really wants to demonstrate what BCCI and PCB are worth to ICC.

ICC and PCB are doing their best not let that happen
PCB only accepted those Asia Cup terms because of the CT carrot that was dangling in front of them.
ipso facto justification IMO. If PCB hd any leverage, they would have gotten CT visit in writing.
In fact, we can say the broadcasters/sponsors made the PCB and BCCI dance with how they were scrambling to make the match happen. The only thing left to do was for these guys to stand on the field with umbrellas themselves if it rained again.
The one who asked for the spare day was PCB as someone else posted
 
But do they really want to manage it?
Why not avoid the constant rona dhona from PCB
The stability of a confirmed India-Pakistan match (sometimes multiple in the same tournament) is hard to ignore. Broadcasters don't just look at previous stats but also the potential for even more eyes. These games and of course Indian knockout matches offer more potential than any other game.

Look there's no doubt the BCCI can manage. Heck, they can manage on IPL money alone for decades. But I just don't think they want to because businesses don't run like that nor are they a charity. They want the easiest path to maximum returns.
I think there is more at play than BCCI. BCCI would like the revenue, but would they want to deal with constant headache from PCB? put PCB out to pasture for couple of years and how things play out.

It also helps that GOI is stabel till 2029 and they will back BCCI against PCB
You never want the broadcasters to go back and say "Well that wasn't worth it!" next time bids are made. People were already criticizing them for overpaying for the rights.
This sounds like FUD

I get the sense ethat PCB and Pak fans are scared of knowing that cricket might move on from PCB drama
 
Still wrong.

You make zero sense.

Has Pakistan stopped its cricket team from coming to India? No.

Is india blackmailing Pakistan by refusing to come to Pakistan for the tournament and hijacking it? Yes.

Have they done it before? Yes, Asia cup.

India is the only problem - cancer of world cricket.
Right, is it also India's fault that Cricket stopped in Pakistan for a long time? Cancer to cricket is also lying to other nations and telling them we will provide high end security and then in return let a bunch of crazy nutcases to shot them at will. India/Pakistan can point fingers at each other as much as these two wants, ROW looks at both as a problem. You maybe blinded by your own vision, ask people outside of India/Pakistan who the real problems are in the cricketing world that's when you will get a sense of real answer. #1 will be india and #2 will be pakistan.
 
Indian fans jumping through hoops to justify India’s refusal is always hilarious. They will go to any lengths to justify whatever they are being forcefully fed on a daily basis.


As predictable as India pulling this stunt every time they are asked to visit Pakistan.
 
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Why don't you ask your government ( oh sorry establishment) to act against non State actor's who are doing terrorism in india ?

Before Mumbai attack india were regular tour Pakistan even after Kargil war.

Cricket is secondry things .

Ironic that Indians are still beating the drum about terrorism from two decades ago in India while their hand can clearly be seen in the current terror initiatives in Karachi and Balochistan.
 
Ironic that Indians are still beating the drum about terrorism from two decades ago in India while their hand can clearly be seen in the current terror initiatives in Karachi and Balochistan.

Which Indian was caught in Karachi or Balochistan spreading terror?
 
Ironic that Indians are still beating the drum about terrorism from two decades ago in India while their hand can clearly be seen in the current terror initiatives in Karachi and Balochistan.
have you know how many UN banned terror organisation has based in pakistan.

Most of UN designated terrorist living in pakistan .

We have seen how world most wanted terrorist Osama bina Laden was lived near pakistan army headquarters.
 
Modi & his goons fund all these anti Pak akshay Bollywood movies, what makes you think they’ll travel to Pak & make Pak a profit.
 
Modi & his goons fund all these anti Pak akshay Bollywood movies, what makes you think they’ll travel to Pak & make Pak a profit.
Bechara Akki , without doing much anti-Pak movies his name gets called out for being a Hindu.

Amir/Salman/Saif/Srk have done way more anti-Pak movies.
 
It was Pakistanis who were caught, but their handlers will be Indian. All this will come out in the coming days once these RAW sponsored terrorists are interviewed.

Handlers handled them how?From where? Balochistan has no boundaries with India.

Earlier the excuse was Indian consulates in Afghanistan. Now even thats not there.
 
Modi & his goons fund all these anti Pak akshay Bollywood movies, what makes you think they’ll travel to Pak & make Pak a profit.

Pakistan funds armed terrorists in Kashmir. These are only movies.
 
Bechara Akki , without doing much anti-Pak movies his name gets called out for being a Hindu.

Amir/Salman/Saif/Srk have done way more anti-Pak movies.
Here it is in black & white
 

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All hail the BCCI, the one true King of the Cricketing world

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Handlers handled them how?From where? Balochistan has no boundaries with India.

Earlier the excuse was Indian consulates in Afghanistan. Now even thats not there.

Why do you need boundaries to sponsor terrorism? According to you OBL managed to bring down the twin towers from Afghanistan. Since when did Afghans have a border with the USA?
 
Here it is in black & white
Lol only Bell Bottom is his and its not an anti-Pakistani movie but against Khalistani hijacking of Indian airlines.

He is not even part of other movies. What you have against Modi and India is upto you but Akshay does 6-8 movies an year and if he is a RAW agent in one the ratio is still super low.

Heck he makes more movies against Hindutva(Omg, Jolly llb2 etc) than against Pak.

And you donhave to worry about Akshay he is hated by everyone and everyone blames him for everything whether in India and now I see Pak as well lol
 
All hail the BCCI, the one true King of the Cricketing world, First of its Name, King of the ICC full member and the associate members, King of Big 3, Khal of the Asian Cricket Council, Breaker of MCC, Mother of IPL and Papa of PCB.
 
I don't think we are on the same page. BCCI really wants to demonstrate what BCCI and PCB are worth to ICC.

ICC and PCB are doing their best not let that happen

ipso facto justification IMO. If PCB hd any leverage, they would have gotten CT visit in writing.

The one who asked for the spare day was PCB as someone else posted

If PCB didn't have any leverage, they wouldn't have got the CT hosting rights in the first place.

I remember the unnecessarily drawn-out arguments I had on PP stating the PCB would get those rights but Indian posters kept saying it wouldn't happen.

The BCCI's influence is considerable but let's not become unrealistic.
 
If PCB didn't have any leverage, they wouldn't have got the CT hosting rights in the first place.
Even namibia is co- hosting cricket world cup 2027. So Pakistan hosting a champion trophy is nothing .

Unlike PCB ,they are already started the working on cricket stadium 3 year ago .

Yesterday photos
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Even namibia is co- hosting cricket world cup 2027. So Pakistan hosting a champion trophy is nothing .

Unlike PCB ,they are already started the working on cricket stadium 3 year ago .

Then why were Indian posters adamant Pakistan wouldn't get it back then?

Either you guys didn't know what you were talking about back then or now.
 
Then why were Indian posters adamant Pakistan wouldn't get it back then?

Either you guys didn't know what you were talking about back then or now.
You don't get what is my point.

My point is PCB/ pakistan bad policy was the reason why they couldn't get the more ICC event hosting right when they have second best cricketing eyeballs after India.

Hosting a single events from past 30 years is nothing when you was talking about leverage.
 
Okay so according to @cricketjoshila OBL brought down twin towers.

Please educate us, according to you who did it?

Not really relevant to this discussion on cricket relations, if you want to discuss twin towers bump a thread in TimePass. Here it was used only in reference to borders with Balochistan.
 
You don't get what is my point.

My point is PCB/ pakistan bad policy was the reason why they couldn't get the more ICC event hosting right when they have second best cricketing eyeballs after India.

Hosting a single events from past 30 years is nothing when you was talking about leverage.

On this I will agree with you. PCB has historically ignored or been too incompetent to build it's cricket brand when it has a large captive audience. They got complacent with a successful cricket team when the sport was less professional which was fine back in the 1980s, but doesn't work today.
 
You don't get what is my point.

My point is PCB/ pakistan bad policy was the reason why they couldn't get the more ICC event hosting right when they have second best cricketing eyeballs after India.

Hosting a single events from past 30 years is nothing when you was talking about leverage.

No question about it and I agree with your overall point.

PCB has been run by some of the worst professionals in the past. Of course, sometimes they were dealt a bad card too including the general security turmoil in the country for over a decade. Regardless on the management point, I have been one of their biggest critics and felt only Wasim Khan was decent.

But considering the situation they were in, any other board would have been set aside but they weren't when working on the CT rights. They did some good background work to make it happen and if we can criticize them, we can praise them too for this case.
 
No question about it and I agree with your overall point.

PCB has been run by some of the worst professionals in the past. Of course, sometimes they were dealt a bad card too including the general security turmoil in the country for over a decade. Regardless on the management point, I have been one of their biggest critics and felt only Wasim Khan was decent.

But considering the situation they were in, any other board would have been set aside but they weren't when working on the CT rights. They did some good background work to make it happen and if we can criticize them, we can praise them too for this case.
Nah Pakistan/ PCB has not done any lobby or talk with BCCI prior to this point .

PCB chief was invited during World T20 final where Jay shah was already there.

Who had stopped naqvi to go there and talk about Champion trophy with Jay shah ( Indian team particiption)

Point is PCB / ICC were sleeping before india denied to send the team .

You have to Pro active but as always they were sitting at home and waiting for BCCI response When Indian media's were shouting that Indian team will be unlikely to travel for pakistan . That point all the Pakistan posters were talking about fake news but we as Indian fan's already has seen the upcoming reality.

Heck even so many ICC Meetings were done but they didn't talk with BCCI Officials about champions trophy .
 
No matter how much Pakistan media and fans shout, without talking with BCCI / ICC no middle solution will be found for the Champion Trophy.
 
Nah Pakistan/ PCB has not done any lobby or talk with BCCI prior to this point .

PCB chief was invited during World T20 final where Jay shah was already there.

Who had stopped naqvi to go there and talk about Champion trophy with Jay shah ( Indian team particiption)

Point is PCB / ICC were sleeping before india denied to send the team .

You have to Pro active but as always they were sitting at home and waiting for BCCI response When Indian media's were shouting that Indian team will be unlikely to travel for pakistan . That point all the Pakistan posters were talking about fake news but we as Indian fan's already has seen the upcoming reality.

Heck even so many ICC Meetings were done but they didn't talk with BCCI Officials about champions trophy .


It would have been logical for Mohsin Naqvi to make a visit to Mumbai to formally invite Jay Shah to the Champions Trophy. In weddings also, while we send digital invitations to rest of the guests but to special guests who are a must to attend the function we always pay a personal visit to invite them. This is called relationship building which is missing in PCB. Some flowers, mithai and basket full of goodies would have really helped.
 
It would have been logical for Mohsin Naqvi to make a visit to Mumbai to formally invite Jay Shah to the Champions Trophy. In weddings also, while we send digital invitations to rest of the guests but to special guests who are a must to attend the function we always pay a personal visit to invite them. This is called relationship building which is missing in PCB. Some flowers, mithai and basket full of goodies would have really helped.
Yesterday i watched ( Most respected Pakistan journalist in india) where he said Pakistan policy is currently not in one Page. Both the Sharif brother has different opinions about india and Untill Jaishankar Visted to Pakistan ,All the sources ( due to backdoor diplomacy) were saying Indian team likely to visit Pakistan but something has done in last few weeks , according to him india government asked some answers from Pakistan government but none gave them answer from Pakistan side due to different in opinion ( Sharif brother )

This leads indian government to rejected the permission for indian team to travel Pakistan.
 
Still wrong.

You make zero sense.

Has Pakistan stopped its cricket team from coming to India? No.

Is india blackmailing Pakistan by refusing to come to Pakistan for the tournament and hijacking it? Yes.

Have they done it before? Yes, Asia cup.

India is the only problem - cancer of world cricket.
You need to read history then. You need to read who started the boycott and what Pakistan did.
 
Nah Pakistan/ PCB has not done any lobby or talk with BCCI prior to this point .

PCB chief was invited during World T20 final where Jay shah was already there.

Who had stopped naqvi to go there and talk about Champion trophy with Jay shah ( Indian team particiption)

Point is PCB / ICC were sleeping before india denied to send the team .

You have to Pro active but as always they were sitting at home and waiting for BCCI response When Indian media's were shouting that Indian team will be unlikely to travel for pakistan . That point all the Pakistan posters were talking about fake news but we as Indian fan's already has seen the upcoming reality.

Heck even so many ICC Meetings were done but they didn't talk with BCCI Officials about champions trophy .

Sadly the BCCI has no leverage or say at home.

They have stated this multiple times.

I think in the end Pakistan was undoubtedly lobbying with the Indian government and even made numerous public steps for building overall relations (both through the media and then in person with the foreign minister) but it wasn't meant to be.

I can't fault them for this because it goes far above the PCB's pay grade.
 
Nah Pakistan/ PCB has not done any lobby or talk with BCCI prior to this point .

PCB chief was invited during World T20 final where Jay shah was already there.

Who had stopped naqvi to go there and talk about Champion trophy with Jay shah ( Indian team particiption)

Point is PCB / ICC were sleeping before india denied to send the team .

You have to Pro active but as always they were sitting at home and waiting for BCCI response When Indian media's were shouting that Indian team will be unlikely to travel for pakistan . That point all the Pakistan posters were talking about fake news but we as Indian fan's already has seen the upcoming reality.

Heck even so many ICC Meetings were done but they didn't talk with BCCI Officials about champions trophy .


This is assuming there is no ill intent on BCCI's part, but even you are saying here that India's media were shouting that the team would be unlikely to travel to Pakistan. But let us give the BCCI the benefit of the doubt and pretend there is no ill intent and they would happily travel to Pakistan. Why did they then reject to do so?

Truth is, even if BCCI wanted to travel, the BJP govt would have put a block on it. This is a political decision, so no amount of boot licking of BCCI officials would have made a difference.
 
Sadly the BCCI has no leverage or say at home.

They have stated this multiple times.

I think in the end Pakistan was undoubtedly lobbying with the Indian government and even made numerous public steps for building overall relations (both through the media and then in person with the foreign minister) but it wasn't meant to be.

I can't fault them for this because it goes far above the PCB's pay grade.
Read Post 142 . Nawaz Sharif was doing the backdoor diplomacy with india .
 
This is assuming there is no ill intent on BCCI's part, but even you are saying here that India's media were shouting that the team would be unlikely to travel to Pakistan. But let us give the BCCI the benefit of the doubt and pretend there is no ill intent and they would happily travel to Pakistan. Why did they then reject to do so?

Truth is, even if BCCI wanted to travel, the BJP govt would have put a block on it. This is a political decision, so no amount of boot licking of BCCI officials would have made a difference.
Who is BCCI and PCB? PCB is controlled by Pakistan interior minister and BCCI is controlled by Son of india interior minister .
 
Who is BCCI and PCB? PCB is controlled by Pakistan interior minister and BCCI is controlled by Son of india interior minister .

Point remains the same. What would boot licking have achieved when the Indian govt already decided India won't tour Pakistan?
 
Point remains the same. What would boot licking have achieved when the Indian govt already decided India won't tour Pakistan?
Again we and you are just assuming but no one knows what was cooking behind the seen.

Pakistan is hosting the trophy and they already know that without government permission indian team will not come.

So it was Pakistan government responsibility to talk with indian goverment . If ego and self respect coming in between than sorry nothing is solution for this fisco. Now its upto ICC how they organised this event - without india in pakistan or with india outside Pakistan.
 
Again we and you are just assuming but no one knows what was cooking behind the seen.

Pakistan is hosting the trophy and they already know that without government permission indian team will not come.

So it was Pakistan government responsibility to talk with indian goverment . If ego and self respect coming in between than sorry nothing is solution for this fisco. Now its upto ICC how they organised this event - without india in pakistan or with india outside Pakistan.

Why does Pakistan govt need to talk to Indian govt about a cricket tournament when you have national cricket boards set up for precisely this purpose?
 
Why does Pakistan govt need to talk to Indian govt about a cricket tournament when you have national cricket boards set up for precisely this purpose?
If They don't want to than ,its fine. Face the music and don't cry When BCCI use his power . This is how current world works .
 
If They don't want to then fine. Face the music and don't cry When BCCI use his power . This is how current world works .

Point is, if India is not going to Pakistan because the Indian govt doesn't want it, then no amount of sucking up to BCCI will make a difference. This is just us calling out reality, you might not like it, but don't cry if we point it out.
 
Point is, if India is not going to Pakistan because the Indian govt doesn't want it, then no amount of sucking up to BCCI will make a difference. This is just us calling out reality, you might not like it, but don't cry if we point it out.
Every problems solution is talk. Even after country's faught a war they have to sit together to end the conflict.
 
Every problems solution is talk. Even after country's faught a war they have to sit together to end the conflict.

This is a cricket tournament not a war. If there is still some other conflict which is more important than the cricket then there should be no cricket at all between these countries until the dispute is sorted out.
 
Simple solution would be to play without India.
Seems like the world’s totally fine playing without India in Pakistan, but meanwhile, some Indians are over here arw like,

“Oh no, please include us! Our government won’t let us play in Pakistan, so maybe just move the whole tournament somewhere else?”

So now it's up to the PCB to decide if they’ll listen to these bachare Indians' pleas.
 
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