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BCCI, CA agree to move on from controversial incidents during 2nd Test [Update #177]

TalhaSyed said:
:)) Is it just me who finds that statement extremely arrogant and obnoxious.

It's almost reads like "How dare you accuse Sir Steven Elanor Smith of cheating?!? This is a complete and utter outrage!!".....

....but yea the cameras totally caught Smith cheating :inzi

Can't argue with Kohli on this one.

Kohli is a passionate cricketer who plays with his heart on his sleeve & as a result of this, he has done some silly stuff, himself (e.g. ball tampering) - kind of like Boom Boom :afridi. However, that does not change the fact that in this instance Kohli was completely correct and he had every right to get annoyed at Smith and raise his concern with the umpire.
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Can you tell me when was Kohli found guilty of ball tampering?
 
BCCI has released a statement supporting Kohli.

And a paanwala told me that a formal complaint may have been filed.
 
Can't remember a single controversy-fee series btw these two teams
 
Gilly said:
disappointed in Smith, could have done this a lot better. He should have spoken to the non striker while the non striker looked over his shoulder at the players room for a signal. Aus need to work this out a bit better but watching Kholi go into melt down turning purple and flailing his arms around crying to the umpies was a funny moment in all the carry ons. Something simple like the new batsman standing up would mean don't go for the review and if he is sitting down the go for the review.
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That would be the ideal way to do it. Or when bowling , the team could designate one of the fielders , who will discretely glance at the dressing room. Let's call him 'the peeper'. The skipper then take his cues from the peeper and makes a decision , and avoids suspicion of the umpires ..
 
cricketjoshila said:
Can you tell me when was Kohli found guilty of ball tampering?
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Do you not already know the answer to that? Thought a know it all like you would know all about what happened :yk

Plus - why you asking questions which are unrelated to the thread? :13:

But anyway - if it makes you happy I'll answer your question. Nah he got away with ball tampering without getting charged or punished for it :) Kind of like Stuart Broad did when he stuck his spikes in the ball
 
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TalhaSyed said:
Do you not already know the answer to that? Thought a know it all like you would know all about what happened :yk

Plus - why you asking questions which are unrelated to the thread? :13:

But anyway - if it makes you happy I'll answer your question. Nah he got away with ball tampering without getting charged or punished for it :) Kind of like Stuart Broad did when he stuck his spikes in the ball
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So once again concocted baseless accusations which you cannot substantiate.Thought So.
 
TalhaSyed said:
Do you not already know the answer to that? Thought a know it all like you would know all about what happened :yk

Plus - why you asking questions which are unrelated to the thread? :13:

But anyway - if it makes you happy I'll answer your question. Nah he got away with ball tampering without getting charged or punished for it :) Kind of like Stuart Broad did when he stuck his spikes in the ball
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Yeah the same way warner was caught doing the same thing like duplessis did but not reported isn't it?

Aus players said everyone does what duplessis does and laughed about it
 
Gilly said:
disappointed in Smith, could have done this a lot better. He should have spoken to the non striker while the non striker looked over his shoulder at the players room for a signal. Aus need to work this out a bit better but watching Kholi go into melt down turning purple and flailing his arms around crying to the umpies was a funny moment in all the carry ons. Something simple like the new batsman standing up would mean don't go for the review and if he is sitting down the go for the review.
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Funny DRS and funny rules! In that case TV Monitors, Phones, etc, should all be banned in the pavilion box! Cricket was all good without the DRS (Still you have controversies, dissatisfaction, mistakes, etc, what's the use?) Just that the umpires have to be good and unbiased, ICC have to monitor them (Still you can't rule out mistakes & blame games though!)

What is the next level of DRS? Make the on-field umpires purely mechanical & players make appeal to the media box for decisions, maybe!!!
 
ICC statement in relation to second Test between India and Australia

The ICC has considered both incidents in the context of this match and concluded it will be taking no further action against either player.
The ICC has confirmed that no charges have been laid against any player under the ICC Code of Conduct following the second Test match between India and Australia in Bengaluru.

Specifically in relation to Steve Smith and Virat Kohli, the ICC has considered both incidents in the context of this match and concluded it will be taking no further action against either player.

ICC Chief Executive David Richardson said: “We have just witnessed a magnificent game of Test cricket where players from both teams gave their all and emotions were running high during and after the match.

“We would encourage both teams to focus their energies on the third Test in Ranchi next week. Ahead of that, the match referee will bring both Captains together to remind them of their responsibilities to the game.”
 
What farcial statement by ICC! Both captains had to be reprimanded for their actions!
 
I think they made the right decision , Kohli took a stand and it would have been wrong to give him a reprimand on that considering that he approached the umpire and the umpire stepped in right away.
Smith admitted to his stupidity and called it a "brain fade"

Enough hoopla about it , both parties understand and said things in the open, ICC does not need to jump the gun. if it follows again then they need to come down harsher.
 
EliteCynical said:
What farcial statement by ICC! Both captains had to be reprimanded for their actions!
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Both the captains? One was caught cheating red handed, the other one said this was incessant, clearly the only logical path would be to investigate this further. But then again Smith cannot be banned, so just pull this under the rug, well done ICC!
 
Lmao some pathetic Indian fans whining again. By the reactions, you wud think Smith tried to murder an Indian player. That's why opinions if these fans shud be taken with a grain of salt
 
Agree and that too For pointing out something illegal that was happening on the ground, in real time. This needs to be investigated further, particularly Kohli's statement about reporting similar behavior by the Aussies earlier and if the facts support it then the Aussies should be ready to face the consequences.
 
cricketjoshila said:
So once again concocted baseless accusations which you cannot substantiate.Thought So.
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I think the photo's and videos substantiate enough and make the accusations anything but baseless.

Yet a hopeless blind belief and following of the BCCI and all things Indian cricket related by you.

Thought so.

Drreddymd said:
Yeah the same way warner was caught doing the same thing like duplessis did but not reported isn't it?

Aus players said everyone does what duplessis does and laughed about it
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What?
 
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=142737]Drreddymd[/MENTION]

Footage of Virat Kohli and David Warner allegedly using artificial substances to shine the ball did not come under the ICC's consideration since the accusation was not brought to the match referee's notice within five days of the incident

Around the same time that the ICC heard the Faf du Plessis case, there emerged on social media footage of Virat Kohli and David Warner with suggestions that they might have introduced artificial substances to shine the ball. That footage, though, was not a consideration for the ICC because any Level 1 or 2 offence under the ICC Code of Conduct has to be brought to the notice of the ICC match referee within five days of the incident.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-south-africa-2016-17/content/story/1067912.html

Based on the footage and pictures of Kohli, it's pretty obvious that Kohli got away with ball tampering thanks to a loop hole in the system.

On a side note - CJ - It's funny how that's the only thing you picked up on in my very original post stating that in the current scenario Kohli was absolutely justified with his stance and you can't argue with what he did in the Smith saga. Yet you chose to focus on the one point in my post which suggested that something about Indian cricket isn't quite perfect, since you have some sort of agenda of preaching praises for the BCCI and Indian cricket team regardless of what common sense suggests.

Kher CJ - you can run along on your merry way of singing praises for the BCCI and Indian team now as if they are the most perfect and flawless thing in the world and ignore any images, articles or footage which suggest otherwise :)
 
TalhaSyed said:
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-south-africa-2016-17/content/story/1067912.html

Based on the footage and pictures of Kohli, it's pretty obvious that Kohli got away with ball tampering thanks to a loop hole in the system.

On a side note - CJ - It's funny how that's the only thing you picked up on in my very original post stating that in the current scenario Kohli was absolutely justified with his stance and you can't argue with what he did in the Smith saga. Yet you chose to focus on the one point in my post which suggested that something about Indian cricket isn't quite perfect, since you have some sort of agenda of preaching praises for the BCCI and Indian cricket team regardless of what common sense suggests.

Kher CJ - you can run along on your merry way of singing praises for the BCCI and Indian team now as if they are the most perfect and flawless thing in the world and ignore any images, articles or footage which suggest otherwise :)
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So according to social media Virat was tampering the ball.What next?

Baseless allegations and videos or photos on social media have no credibility unless independently verified a d attested to by the authorities concerned.


I am quite aware what you intended to support and what you intended to bring out.Thank you for the support. :)
 
cricketjoshila said:
So according to social media Virat was tampering the ball.What next?

Baseless allegations and videos or photos on social media have no credibility unless independently verified a d attested to by the authorities concerned.


I am quite aware what you intended to support and what you intended to bring out.Thank you for the support. :)
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:)) There you go again with such appallingly biased posts that it's impossible to take anything you say seriously.

Yes according to "social media" Virat ball tampered. Not according to the video footage and photos which you deem "baseless" :))

The extent of your bias is just comical.

Any time buddy :)
 
Sachin136 said:
Why should Kohli be reprimanded? Did anyone get reprimanded for speaking out during what happened with Faf?
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Kohli should be reprimanded for all the on field antics and the send offs. So should Starc!
 
R0H1T said:
Both the captains? One was caught cheating red handed, the other one said this was incessant, clearly the only logical path would be to investigate this further. But then again Smith cannot be banned, so just pull this under the rug, well done ICC!
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I am talking about Kohli to be reprimanded for his on field antics wrt his decsion as well as send offs. In any case nothing would happen, they cannot reprimand Kohli and let Smith go scott free, it would cause the tour to end. also, if they reprimand Smith, then there would be whole another political incident. End of the day, smith did something he was not supposed to. So did Faf, and he did deny like Smith, but was punished. My worry is the different yardsticks for different countries
 
EliteCynical said:
Kohli should be reprimanded for all the on field antics and the send offs. So should Starc!
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Care to explain what on field antics you refer to? If you want reprimands for send off then all 22 players will be reprimanded. Here is a video - watch the last two minutes.
 
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EliteCynical said:
Kohli should be reprimanded for all the on field antics and the send offs. So should Starc!
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Kohli did nothing wrong on the field. Starc said "**** off" to Nair but that isn't a big deal.

This isn't a kid's game, things like that are okay.
 
He said he shouldn't have done it, move on. Far too much is being made out of this. He looked at the changing room to see if it was close or not, lol had he reviewed it because of there advice he would have been given out anyway.
 
How can Umpire ask Smith to leave the field, he gave him OUT alright, but Smith still had a review coming inspite of what happened ??????
 
Its funny how Smith is now calling it a brain-fade and Peter Handscomb claiming ignorance of DRS rules. In case of the latter does it mean that they had been doing it before and you can play a game without knowing the rules, at-least the ones involving out/not-out decisions. The Aussies had adopted the DRS system much earlier than India and Hanscomb's defence doesn't fly.

You have to see the video and Smith's gesticulation, like its pre-meditated. Smith got off easy probably due to the influence of CA otherwise this clearly was a violation of cricketing code of conduct and DRS review protocol.
 
Peter Handscomb says he was 'completely unaware' of key DRS rule

In a bizarre claim, Australia batsman Peter Handscomb has said that he was completely unaware of the rule preventing players from seeking the dressing room's help for making Decision Review System (DRS) referrals. Handscomb, who was caught on camera asking skipper Steve Smith to seek advice from the dressing room on whether to review his leg-before dismissal during Australia's second innings in the second Test at Bengaluru, added that he is now familiar with the rules pertaining to the system.

Asked about the incident involving Smith, which has spiralled into a major controversy during the ongoing four-match Test series between the two fierce cricketing rivals, Handscomb said, "No, just completely unaware that you couldn't do that. But now I know - I have been well and truly informed and I'm just looking forward to moving on from this."

"It's still new in my international career, so I haven't had a lot to do with the DRS and I'm now a lot more familiar with it," the 25-year-old right-hander added.

Smith had later admitted his fault over the incident, terming his decision to look towards the dressing room as a 'brain fade'. Smith's dismissal acted as a catalyst to Australia’s spectacular batting collapse in their second innings in Bengaluru, as India secured a series-levelling 75-run wins.

India captain Virat Kohli, who was visibly agitated over the incident, later told reporters during his post-match press conference that he had seen the visiting team regularly seek the dressing room's help for DRS reviews.

Handscomb, who was also asked about the visitors' on-field verbal duels with the Indian side, particularly with the hosts' skipper Kohli, said Australia were 'not too worried about trying to get into verbal stash'.

"I thought we handled him (Kohli) quite well on the field. Like I said before we just go about our business, not too worried about trying to get into verbal stash. We know what we have been doing, we were definitely not chatting that's for sure. We are in the public eye and we understand that views were being exchanged," Handscomb, who is on his first overseas tour, said.

https://sports.ndtv.com/india-vs-australia-2017/india-vs-australia-peter-handscomb-says-he-was-completely-unaware-of-key-drs-rule-1667933?pfrom=home-sshowcase
 
My Paanwala says BCCI is going to pursue this and may have filed a appeal/official complaint.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Huh?Really?He tried to cheat and got caught.That is trying to bring the game into disrepute.
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And Kumble charging into to have a go at officials mid match about Kohli getting out isn't bringing the game into disrepute?

The umpire acted correctly and Smith wasn't given an opportunity to ask for a review and thus there was no cheating.

As for anything else we only have Kohli's dubious word.
 
Convict said:
And Kumble charging into to have a go at officials mid match about Kohli getting out isn't bringing the game into disrepute?

The umpire acted correctly and Smith wasn't given an opportunity to ask for a review and thus there was no cheating.

As for anything else we only have Kohli's dubious word.
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It is cheating and the law also needs to be changed. What if they just yell from the dressing room to not review everytime he shouldn't review? Then the umpires won't let him use a review for that decision, which they didn't want to in the first place.
 
Convict said:
And Kumble charging into to have a go at officials mid match about Kohli getting out isn't bringing the game into disrepute?

The umpire acted correctly and Smith wasn't given an opportunity to ask for a review and thus there was no cheating.

As for anything else we only have Kohli's dubious word.
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Kumble didnot cheat.Smith tried to cheat.Its like saying someone was caught tampering the ball since the umpire changed the all,the man tampering should not be charged.

Fortunately the BCCI has its own production company so no one may be able to put pressure on the "foreign"production company to deny footage.
 
Sachin136 said:
It is cheating and the law also needs to be changed. What if they just yell from the dressing room to not review everytime he shouldn't review? Then the umpires won't let him use a review for that decision, which they didn't want to in the first place.
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There is no evidence whatsoever that this happened more than once which means the rules worked completely as intended.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Kumble didnot cheat.Smith tried to cheat.Its like saying someone was caught tampering the ball since the umpire changed the all,the man tampering should not be charged.

Fortunately the BCCI has its own production company so no one may be able to put pressure on the "foreign"production company to deny footage.
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Given the BCCI is a organisation so dubious your own Supreme Court sacked all the officials, Indian cricket fans are in no position to cast stones at "foreign companies".
 
Convict said:
Given the BCCI is a organisation so dubious your own Supreme Court sacked all the officials, Indian cricket fans are in no position to cast stones at "foreign companies".
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The BCCI is being operated by SC right now.

The supreme court sacked only the President and Secretary and that for stalling SC orders.The role of foreign companies are well known.

Its a shame that aussies find nothing wrong in using unethical means.
 
Convict said:
There is no evidence whatsoever that this happened more than once which means the rules worked completely as intended.
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It doesn't matter how many times, the law needs to be stricter for the first occurrence.
 
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The captain may consult with the bowler and other fielders or the two batsmen may consult with each other prior to deciding whether to request a Player Review. However in order to meet the requirement of (b) above, such consultation will need to occur almost instantly and be very brief. Under no circumstances is any player permitted to query an umpire about any aspect of a decision before deciding on whether or not to request a Player Review. If the umpires believe that the captain or batsman has received direct or indirect input emanating other than from the players on the field, then they may at their discretion decline the request for a Player Review. In particular, signals from the dressing room must not be given.
 
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TalhaSyed said:
I think the photo's and videos substantiate enough and make the accusations anything but baseless.

Yet a hopeless blind belief and following of the BCCI and all things Indian cricket related by you.

Thought so.



What?
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If u r not aware of warner doing the same thing like duplessis did then search youtube for that video.

U r the first to cast aspersions on indian players but u ignore same thing done by aussies
 
cricketjoshila said:
The BCCI is being operated by SC right now.

The supreme court sacked only the President and Secretary and that for stalling SC orders.The role of foreign companies are well known.

Its a shame that aussies find nothing wrong in using unethical means.
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Because they r the bench mark for horrible behavior and they care too hoots about it.

So inorder to justify their boorish behavior they say that everybody is the same like aussies which is laughable to the extreme
 
Sachin136 said:
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The captain may consult with the bowler and other fielders or the two batsmen may consult with each other prior to deciding whether to request a Player Review. However in order to meet the requirement of (b) above, such consultation will need to occur almost instantly and be very brief. Under no circumstances is any player permitted to query an umpire about any aspect of a decision before deciding on whether or not to request a Player Review. If the umpires believe that the captain or batsman has received direct or indirect input emanating other than from the players on the field, then they may at their discretion decline the request for a Player Review. In particular, signals from the dressing room must not be given.
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Correct.

And the umpire acted appropriately and did not give Smith the option to ask for a review.
 
Drreddymd said:
Because they r the bench mark for horrible behavior and they care too hoots about it.

So inorder to justify their boorish behavior they say that everybody is the same like aussies which is laughable to the extreme
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Other way around.

Australian supporters are perfectly able to admit out players do push and often go over the line.

Unlike Indian supporters we don't pretend our lot are innocent angels.
 
BCCI Has officially filed a complaint againist Smith and Handscomb.I predicted this yesterday.
 
Steve Smith's “brain fade” was cheating that should be punished

An article in Aus media says that Steve Smith’s brain fade was cheating that should be punished.

Clarke held the similar views. So despite some fans and CA acting surprised by accusation, many in Aus are concerned about it. I am not surprised that no action was taken against Kohli and Smith here due to obvious reasons, but if penalty was getting handed out then both would have gotten it. In fact, there is no rule for punishing Smith , but Kohli could have faced some punishment for talking about it in press conference. Just going by ICC rules.

I agree with the author that if Handscomb told Smith to look to the stands for advice, it means they expected to receive advice, even though everyone in the box should have also known it would be cheating. Who in PP disagree with this?

CA/BCCI are just acting tough here and backing players. Kohli and Smith, both should have faced some punishment due to being captain here and it should have been done by their boards, but we all know it won't happen.
 
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Convict said:
Other way around.

Australian supporters are perfectly able to admit out players do push and often go over the line.

Unlike Indian supporters we don't pretend our lot are innocent angels.
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Tell me in what way indian players are equal to aussies? In cheating? In Sledging?

I will be first to accept that kohli crosses the line like aussies but to equate 1 player to whole Aussie team is ridiculous to the extreme
 
Anyone with half a brain cell should know that any form of cheating (in sports) should be a punishable offense, if the laws don't define what the punishment could be (seems to be level 2 in this case) then they ought to be amended. Ignorance, it wasn't so in this case IMO, is not a defense at any level of professional sports. If so then you go along the lines of he was just a kid, for Amir, or everyone does it, Faf last year, hence I should go scot free.

If Smith/Peter are guilty under level 2 code, as is evident atm but we'll wait for a verdict, then there's no question that they ought to be banned or whatever the judge deems a just punishment. If not then the two previous cases should not have made into the headlines & drama section, if Virat is guilty of any offense he should also be punished accordingly, then again the whole Aussie team would be under scrutiny in his case. The bottom line is you can't set a precedent of not acting even when there was a trial by media, on at least two previous occasions.
 
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Kohli shouldn't be accusing entire Aus team for systematic cheating. Ok, he didn't uttered those words , but that's what he meant. It seems that Kohli had talked about it earlier to umpires and that's why Kohli and Umpire were vigilant about it, but you can't have captain of one team going on press conference and accusing opposition for systematic cheating, even if they did cheat. You go through official channel and investigation will take place.

If BCCI has filed complaint then ICC will have to now go through all footage to see if systematic cheating took place. It should have been done this way from the start without Kohli accusing Aus for systematic cheating in press conference after the match. That was not on. Only India, Aus or Eng captains can get away without punishment after saying something like that in press conference. Imagine if WI captain accuses Aus, Eng or Ind for systematic cheating in press conference openly in similar situation.
 
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Buffet said:
I didn't talk about Kohli or Smith getting banned here, but Kohli shouldn't be accusing entire Aus team for systematic cheating. Ok, he didn't uttered those words , but that's what he meant. It seems that Kohli had talked about it earlier to umpires and that's why Kohli and Umpire were vigilant about it, but you can't have captain of one team going on press conference and accusing opposition for systematic cheating, even if they did cheat. You go through official channel and investigation will take place.

If BCCI has filed complaint then ICC will have to now go through all footage to see if systematic cheating took place. It should have been done this way from the start without Kohli accusing Aus for systematic cheating in press conference after the match. That was not on. Only India, Aus or Eng captains can get away without punishment after saying something like that in press conference. Imagine if WI captain accuses Aus, Eng or Ind for systematic cheating in press conference openly in similar situation.
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He was asked about drs fiasco and he explained his version of events what he saw during the match.

He has already complained to the umpires and referee isnt it?

So if he saw cheating he should remain silent and let match officials decide isnt it
 
Fine Smith for a one game suspension and move on ........The issue would have gotten a lot lot worse if it was a not out and Smith took the DRS after looking at the dressing room ...that would have changed the whole game
 
Buffet said:
I didn't talk about Kohli or Smith getting banned here, but Kohli shouldn't be accusing entire Aus team for systematic cheating. Ok, he didn't uttered those words , but that's what he meant. It seems that Kohli had talked about it earlier to umpires and that's why Kohli and Umpire were vigilant about it, but you can't have captain of one team going on press conference and accusing opposition for systematic cheating, even if they did cheat. You go through official channel and investigation will take place.

If BCCI has filed complaint then ICC will have to now go through all footage to see if systematic cheating took place. It should have been done this way from the start without Kohli accusing Aus for systematic cheating in press conference after the match. That was not on. Only India, Aus or Eng captains can get away without punishment after saying something like that in press conference. Imagine if WI captain accuses Aus, Eng or Ind for systematic cheating in press conference openly in similar situation.
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His complaints to the umpires have been justified by what smith subsequently did.

Instead of focusing on cheating u r focusing on person who bought cheating to notice
 
Drreddymd said:
He was asked about drs fiasco and he explained his version of events what he saw during the match.

He has already complained to the umpires and referee isnt it?

So if he saw cheating he should remain silent and let match officials decide isnt it
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If he saw cheating then BCCI should have filed complain from the get go without Kohli accusing Aus for systematic cheating in after match press conference. There is place and time to do certain things.
 
Buffet said:
I didn't talk about Kohli or Smith getting banned here, but Kohli shouldn't be accusing entire Aus team for systematic cheating. Ok, he didn't uttered those words , but that's what he meant. It seems that Kohli had talked about it earlier to umpires and that's why Kohli and Umpire were vigilant about it, but you can't have captain of one team going on press conference and accusing opposition for systematic cheating, even if they did cheat. You go through official channel and investigation will take place.

If BCCI has filed complaint then ICC will have to now go through all footage to see if systematic cheating took place. It should have been done this way from the start without Kohli accusing Aus for systematic cheating in press conference after the match. That was not on. Only India, Aus or Eng captains can get away without punishment after saying something like that in press conference. Imagine if WI captain accuses Aus, Eng or Ind for systematic cheating in press conference openly in similar situation.
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I'd argue Indians got away with it only once, in Sydney 2008 where Harbhajan could've been banned for using abusive language, when was the last time you saw an Aussie or English player being banned for abusive language or slow over rates?

Then as I've shown in the other thread, blatant acts of cheating by Oz, pretty sure all of them were brushed aside by the ICC. As for Faf, sure he was hounded by the Aussie media after Aus lost humiliatingly, I'm sure if India would've lost here the same Aussie media would call us crybabies, unsportsmanlike or any other BS term they like to conjure up.
 
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Buffet said:
I didn't talk about Kohli or Smith getting banned here, but Kohli shouldn't be accusing entire Aus team for systematic cheating. Ok, he didn't uttered those words , but that's what he meant. It seems that Kohli had talked about it earlier to umpires and that's why Kohli and Umpire were vigilant about it, but you can't have captain of one team going on press conference and accusing opposition for systematic cheating, even if they did cheat. You go through official channel and investigation will take place.

If BCCI has filed complaint then ICC will have to now go through all footage to see if systematic cheating took place. It should have been done this way from the start without Kohli accusing Aus for systematic cheating in press conference after the match. That was not on. Only India, Aus or Eng captains can get away without punishment after saying something like that in press conference. Imagine if WI captain accuses Aus, Eng or Ind for systematic cheating in press conference openly in similar situation.
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U misunderstood me. I didn't mention that u r asking for Kohli to be banned but other Aussie fans who say kohli should be banned
 
Drreddymd said:
His complaints to the umpires have been justified by what smith subsequently did.

Instead of focusing on cheating u r focusing on person who bought cheating to notice
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Yes, his complain was justified and now BCCI has filed complain. Nothing wrong in Kohli bring it to attention and all that. My problem is Kohli not getting any punishment for talking like that in press conference. ICC should clamp down on cheating as well. I never said anything against it.
 
Drreddymd said:
U misunderstood me. I didn't mention that u r asking for Kohli to be banned but other Aussie fans who say kohli should be banned
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No problem. I don't want to see next test without Kohli or Smith so I am not in support of match ban here. Both should get some warning for sure. Just my opinion here. Then game should move on.
 
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A charge based on what?

Since the umpire did his job and prevented Smith from asking for a review there is nothing to suspend anyone from.

If Smith does get suspended Australia should take a leaf out of the BCCI book and just leave the series.
 
Convict said:
A charge based on what?

Since the umpire did his job and prevented Smith from asking for a review there is nothing to suspend anyone from.

If Smith does get suspended Australia should take a leaf out of the BCCI book and just leave the series.
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Let the door not hit you on the way out.
 
Convict said:
A charge based on what?

Since the umpire did his job and prevented Smith from asking for a review there is nothing to suspend anyone from.

If Smith does get suspended Australia should take a leaf out of the BCCI book and just leave the series.
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Charge for trying to cheat.Just like trying to tamper the ball or the pitch.Or trying to use any unfair means and getting caught.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Let the door not hit you on the way out.
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Glad we're both in agreement.

India always using the money power to be bully boys off the field. Be nice if CA had some spine for once unlike the Harbhajan incident.
 
Convict said:
Glad we're both in agreement.

India always using the money power to be bully boys off the field. Be nice if CA had some spine for once unlike the Harbhajan incident.
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Yes,also be ready to be hit with a lawsuit like WICB was hit with and India skipping the Australian tour when their time comes.
 
Convict said:
A charge based on what?

Since the umpire did his job and prevented Smith from asking for a review there is nothing to suspend anyone from.

If Smith does get suspended Australia should take a leaf out of the BCCI book and just leave the series.
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So cheating with drs means a punishment of not able to review that particular drs?

Haha haha what a justice for cheating

Then why icc keeps on blabbering about spirit of cricket and fair play when aus players show blatant regard for it
 
cricketjoshila said:
Yes,also be ready to be hit with a lawsuit like WICB was hit with and India skipping the Australian tour when their time comes.
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We'll pay that lawsuit when the BCCI compensate the PCB for those cancelled agreed series.

And yeah feel welcome to not tour Australia again. If Sutherland wasn't a pathetic sycophant he'd have have told you guys that back in 2008.
 
Drreddymd said:
So cheating with drs means a punishment of not able to review that particular drs?

Haha haha what a justice for cheating

Then why icc keeps on blabbering about spirit of cricket and fair play when aus players show blatant regard for it
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The ICC rules on DRS state that “If the umpires believe that the captain or batsman has received direct or indirect input emanating other than from the players on the field, then they may at their discretion decline the request for a Player Review. In particular, signals from the dressing room must not be given.”

As unacceptable as Smith’s actions were, there was no signalling from the dressing room and match referee Chris Broad told The Daily Telegraph after play that for that reason, and because umpire Nigel Llong had intervened, Smith would not face penalty.

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Nothing in those rules that suggests anything further should go on.
 
Convict said:
A charge based on what?

Since the umpire did his job and prevented Smith from asking for a review there is nothing to suspend anyone from.

If Smith does get suspended Australia should take a leaf out of the BCCI book and just leave the series.
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We all know that is never going to happen. Purely for selfish reasons to safeguard their cash cow. And not just CA it's all the boards and the ICC.
 
Convict said:
We'll pay that lawsuit when the BCCI compensate the PCB for those cancelled agreed series.

And yeah feel welcome to not tour Australia again. If Sutherland wasn't a pathetic sycophant he'd have have told you guys that back in 2008.
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U should have heard a word called mou isn't it?

They dont have a leg to stand on and u know it.
 
USofA said:
We all know that is never going to happen. Purely for selfish reasons to safeguard their cash cow. And not just CA it's all the boards and the ICC.
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Yeah because CA is run by a pack of cowards.

Sutherland will brown nose to his masters as usual and next time India tour Australia will instruct the boards to prepare special roads so Kohli can score some runs and Ashwin can actually take some wickets.
 
Convict said:
Glad we're both in agreement.

India always using the money power to be bully boys off the field. Be nice if CA had some spine for once unlike the Harbhajan incident.
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In this case it is more of CA not having the backbone to take a stand. CA just being selfish.
 
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