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KOLKATA: The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI ) is exploring ways in which India doesn't bump into arch-rivals Pakistan in the nine-team Test league which got the green light recently from the International Cricket Council ( ICC) and is aimed at bringing context and meaning to bilateral cricket.

According to acting BCCI secretary
Amitabh Chaudhary , present here during the first Test between India and Sri Lanka, the board will have to factor in these issues before taking a call.

"In any world competition or championship, if say 20 teams play, it is not possible to play each team against each other. The problem in not having a series between India and Pakistan is something which affects international cricket to a large extent.

"So nothing can really be planned out factoring the consequences on that situation. That's being looked after. As I said, it is not necessary to play each and every team in a championship," Chauhdury said.

Ahead of the December 1 SGM in New Delhi, BCCI treasurer Aniruddh Chaudhry had shot off a letter to acting president CK Khanna and the acting secretary, asking them to share the FTP plans before the scheduled SGM.

"Record my statement nobody is in the dark, all members of the Board will be sent notice of the SGM along with relevant papers on each of the agenda points.

"As far as writing letter is concerned, it's Constitution of India that has given rights to everyone to express. About not being in the loop, it's not a fact.
"Papers can't be circulated in a vacuum once the agenda is specified, it will be done when the time is right," Chaudhury said.

On October 13 at Auckland, the world's governing body for the sport decided on having a nine-team Test league and a 13-team ODI league aimed at bringing context and meaning to bilateral cricket.

The schedules of the leagues, due to start in 2019 and 2020 respectively, was not finalised.

The Test series league will see nine teams play six series over two years - three home and three away - with each having a minimum of two Tests and a maximum of five and all matches being played over five days culminating in a World Test League Championship Final.

The ODI league will be a direct qualification pathway towards the ICC Cricket World Cup and will be contested by the 12 Full Members plus the winners of the current ICC World Cricket League Championship.
In the first edition of the league, each side will play four home and four away series each comprising of three ODIs moving to all teams playing each other from the second cycle onwards.

In the same meeting, the Board approved a "trial" of four-day Test cricket, with South Africa and Zimbabwe playing the first official game of the new format on Boxing Day.

The trial is scheduled to run through until the 2019 World Cup, although participation in it is not mandatory.

"There are issues for and against it. At the moment it is difficult to say (whether India would take part in it or not)," the official said.

On hosting an international D/N Test in the future, he said it's an option which the BCCI cannot confirm yet.

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/c...n-in-icc-test-league/articleshow/61702460.cms
 
If this league is going to happen,every time needs to face each other otherwise it's pointless. What happens if India versus Pakistan becomes the deciding game and it can't happen? Then what will they do?
 
Pakistan is not Playing in Sri Lanka too. Tri nation tournament they called for, I mean Sri Lanka. But they invited Bangladesh and India. We are the one who helped them win 2009 war against Tamil terrorists. Then why not Pakistan called to the Independence cup? We could have even sent an A team!
 
This is just so disrespectful to everyone, but in particular to Pakistan fans who want to see ties being resumed. Ive said this plenty of times, Pakistan needs to simply boycott Indian cricket for good. Everywhere on every occasion.
 
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Pakistan is not Playing in Sri Lanka too. Tri nation tournament they called for, I mean Sri Lanka. But they invited Bangladesh and India. We are the one who helped them win 2009 war against Tamil terrorists. Then why not Pakistan called to the Independence cup? We could have even sent an A team!

Personally I’m glad we aren’t going there.I’m tired of our team always playing against SL.I’m sure the Indian fans are too.
 
Personally I’m glad we aren’t going there.I’m tired of our team always playing against SL.I’m sure the Indian fans are too.

I second that mate! Cricket against this SL team is getting too boring by the day! I would rather enjoy a Bilateral against Afghanistan than playing against these rookie Lankans.
 
These are not just sporting contests they carry huge political cost.

People need to look at it from human level instead of their personal greed, friendships and few players.

Shameless people like channels, players or boards who have an economic stake will always beat these drums of bilateral cricket, it'll bring friendship and peace. To them off course it will bring lot of money, not for the 2 nations who won't even have a piece of mind.

There is so much politics on who is supporting whom, any gesture could have repercussions. Even before the coming of internet, there were some religious and political groups checking into Muslim only areas in India,if there is anyone supporting Pakistan, I've seen this sight first hand in 90s in Ahmedabad and a group of street children had indian flags painted on their face in fear of a indian political group comes checking. Most sensitive time is when Pakistan wins in these contests against India, Pakistanis mite find indians crying, breaking their tv amusing but there are lot of issues beneath the surface.

After last win at champions trophy, certain political groups lodged complaints verbally based on a facebook post or having found complainants who mite have personal tiff with someone from the muslim community. BJP student group not only lodge FIRs but enter university premises to protest if there are anyone from a community who they feel has celebrated Pakistan win like Kashmiris. Amity University faced such protests even if their is a hint that they've supported Pakistan, universities immediately suspend or rusticate them. Aligarh University rusticated few Kashmiri students on a tweet glorifying a Kashmiri militant.

PAkistanis need to understand that India is a lot different from 2008 and there are serious consequences for such contests.

This contest won't improve the lives of many they are just sporting events who'll benefit the few and losers will be those who are at wrong at wrong time.

Insuch a climate such contests are unnecessary.

Pakistanis should show some spine and say no to the board begging for bilaterals against India.
 
I say to hell with them, if they dont want to play us ie refuse, the full match points and ranking points should be awarded for the default matches and be given to us by clean sweep margins!! 3-0 home and away!!!!
 
I don't mind them not playing us, just award us the points so our record goes up.
 
Give points to Pakistan for matches not played by India, should be a fair deal.
 
Indo-Pak series will not happen as that is the decision of the Indian govt. ICC, PCB, BCCI cant do anything about it.

If ICC wants BCCI to play a series vs Pakistan mandatorily, and if BCCI doesnt play they lose points etc, better for BCCI to simply not play these leagues. They can keep playing bilateral series outside the league.
 
These are not just sporting contests they carry huge political cost.

People need to look at it from human level instead of their personal greed, friendships and few players.

Shameless people like channels, players or boards who have an economic stake will always beat these drums of bilateral cricket, it'll bring friendship and peace. To them off course it will bring lot of money, not for the 2 nations who won't even have a piece of mind.

There is so much politics on who is supporting whom, any gesture could have repercussions. Even before the coming of internet, there were some religious and political groups checking into Muslim only areas in India,if there is anyone supporting Pakistan, I've seen this sight first hand in 90s in Ahmedabad and a group of street children had indian flags painted on their face in fear of a indian political group comes checking. Most sensitive time is when Pakistan wins in these contests against India, Pakistanis mite find indians crying, breaking their tv amusing but there are lot of issues beneath the surface.

After last win at champions trophy, certain political groups lodged complaints verbally based on a facebook post or having found complainants who mite have personal tiff with someone from the muslim community. BJP student group not only lodge FIRs but enter university premises to protest if there are anyone from a community who they feel has celebrated Pakistan win like Kashmiris. Amity University faced such protests even if their is a hint that they've supported Pakistan, universities immediately suspend or rusticate them. Aligarh University rusticated few Kashmiri students on a tweet glorifying a Kashmiri militant.

PAkistanis need to understand that India is a lot different from 2008 and there are serious consequences for such contests.

This contest won't improve the lives of many they are just sporting events who'll benefit the few and losers will be those who are at wrong at wrong time.

Insuch a climate such contests are unnecessary.

Pakistanis should show some spine and say no to the board begging for bilaterals against India.

Top post. Sports is just sports, the people are just looking to entertain themselves and the situation is not the right one to demand that.
 
These are not just sporting contests they carry huge political cost.

People need to look at it from human level instead of their personal greed, friendships and few players.

Shameless people like channels, players or boards who have an economic stake will always beat these drums of bilateral cricket, it'll bring friendship and peace. To them off course it will bring lot of money, not for the 2 nations who won't even have a piece of mind.

There is so much politics on who is supporting whom, any gesture could have repercussions. Even before the coming of internet, there were some religious and political groups checking into Muslim only areas in India,if there is anyone supporting Pakistan, I've seen this sight first hand in 90s in Ahmedabad and a group of street children had indian flags painted on their face in fear of a indian political group comes checking. Most sensitive time is when Pakistan wins in these contests against India, Pakistanis mite find indians crying, breaking their tv amusing but there are lot of issues beneath the surface.

After last win at champions trophy, certain political groups lodged complaints verbally based on a facebook post or having found complainants who mite have personal tiff with someone from the muslim community. BJP student group not only lodge FIRs but enter university premises to protest if there are anyone from a community who they feel has celebrated Pakistan win like Kashmiris. Amity University faced such protests even if their is a hint that they've supported Pakistan, universities immediately suspend or rusticate them. Aligarh University rusticated few Kashmiri students on a tweet glorifying a Kashmiri militant.

PAkistanis need to understand that India is a lot different from 2008 and there are serious consequences for such contests.

This contest won't improve the lives of many they are just sporting events who'll benefit the few and losers will be those who are at wrong at wrong time.

Insuch a climate such contests are unnecessary.

Pakistanis should show some spine and say no to the board begging for bilaterals against India.

Why does this responsibility fall on Pakistanis? From the consequences you described above, shouldn't it be unto the progressive Indian public to stand up to their government and protest these atrocities?
 
Why does this responsibility fall on Pakistanis? From the consequences you described above, shouldn't it be unto the progressive Indian public to stand up to their government and protest these atrocities?

What atrocities?Not playing Pakistan isnt a atrocity.lol
 
If India is against this fair system then simply forfiet points for not playing against Pakistan.
 
fact of the matter is this is an ICC tournament, in other tournaments they have happily played us.

Its simple do not make it complicated, dont play us icc should just give us all the points, stick it to them...
 
Indo-Pak series will not happen as that is the decision of the Indian govt. ICC, PCB, BCCI cant do anything about it.

If ICC wants BCCI to play a series vs Pakistan mandatorily, and if BCCI doesnt play they lose points etc, better for BCCI to simply not play these leagues. They can keep playing bilateral series outside the league.

Actually it's the BCCI hiding behind the govt excuse because they know they will stick up for them. If Pakistani film stars, singers and other sportsman are allowed in India then it has nothing to do with govt, otherwise they would be banned - it's BCCI full stop!

You're known for waving the BCCI flag but for goodness sake please don't take us for some idiots. Everyone knows what BCCI's motives truly are - which is to deprive PCB and Pakistan players of money via thier exclusion in the cricketing calendar and banning them from IPL respectively. This is not a Pakistani conspiracy but something some of my Indian friends who have come to admit as well.
 
In the ICC's preliminary Test league schedule that was released a few months ago, Pakistan weren't scheduled to play India anyway.

Plus in this league "format" you play six series in two years, you are not mandated to play every team, as the intention was to avoid Pak-Ind controversy.
 
Actually it's the BCCI hiding behind the govt excuse because they know they will stick up for them. If Pakistani film stars, singers and other sportsman are allowed in India then it has nothing to do with govt, otherwise they would be banned - it's BCCI full stop!

You're known for waving the BCCI flag but for goodness sake please don't take us for some idiots. Everyone knows what BCCI's motives truly are - which is to deprive PCB and Pakistan players of money via thier exclusion in the cricketing calendar and banning them from IPL respectively. This is not a Pakistani conspiracy but something some of my Indian friends who have come to admit as well.

The Indian govt has officially said that there will be no bilateral series with Pakistan.

Ofcourse the Indian govt doesnot want Pakistanis to make money from India.There is nothing to hide.


http://m.hindustantimes.com/cricket...ay-goel/story-R1oKp6eiGmEQbxks0ecteJ_amp.html

Statement by Indian sports minister.



https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.indi...on-pakistani-players-vijay-goel/1/960360.html


India refused to give visas to Pakistani kabbadi players.

Its official Indian govt policy that there should be no bilateral sporting ties beyween India and Pakistan.

Wonder your "Indian" friends didnot tell you this.
 
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Couldn't care less.

How is this farce of a league going to work when one country doesn't want to play another one ??

So sadly while the league is a good idea for cricket it's not going to work when political games are going. Maybe in 10 years time.
 
The Indian govt has officially said that there will be no bilateral series with Pakistan.

Ofcourse the Indian govt doesnot want Pakistanis to make money from India.There is nothing to hide.

You are not a fool you are ignorant.


http://m.hindustantimes.com/cricket...ay-goel/story-R1oKp6eiGmEQbxks0ecteJ_amp.html

Statement by Indian sports minister.



https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.indi...on-pakistani-players-vijay-goel/1/960360.html


India refused to give visas to Pakistani kabbadi players.

Its official Indian govt policy that there should be no bilateral sporting ties beyween India and Pakistan.

Wonder your "Indian" friends didnot tell you this.

A statement by politician instructed by BCCI doesn't prove anything.

And you conveniently ignored that other Pakistanis who work in India for showbiz and sports. India doesn't have an official ban for Pakistanis to work in their country.

But it's typical of another Indian to be sitting on a PP forum or Pakistan YT video to be supporting a govt loud and proud - whose leader was banned all over the world for his crimes.
 
A statement by politician instructed by BCCI doesn't prove anything.

And you conveniently ignored that other Pakistanis who work in India for showbiz and sports. India doesn't have an official ban for Pakistanis to work in their country.

But it's typical of another Indian to be sitting on a PP forum or Pakistan YT video to be supporting a govt loud and proud - whose leader was banned all over the world for his crimes.

A politician?Thats a statement of the Sports Minister.The man incharge of sports in India.He is not any politician.LOL.That is the official policy.

Showbiz?Even they are not being given visas easily.

https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1326926


Dont need your permission to support my country or its govt or its leader.

My leader is going around all over the world meeting world leaders and getting a red carpet.Open your eyes.

Anyways you can keep whining.
 
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A politician?Thats a statement of the Sports Minister.The man incharge of sports in India.He is not any politician.LOL.That is the official policy. As i said you are ignorant.

Showbiz?Even they are not being given visas easily.


https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1326926


Dont need your permission to support my country or its govt or its leader.

My leader is going around all over the world meeting world leaders and getting a red carpet.Open your eyes.

Anyways you can keep whining.

The only group of people are whining in this matter is the government of India.

Same carpet was laid for Gadafi, Saddam by the same people.
 
The only group of people are whining in this matter is the government of India.

Same carpet was laid for Gadafi, Saddam by the same people.

How difficult it is to understand that India doesnot want to keep bilateral sporting ties with Pakistan?Thats pretty plain and simple.No whining nothing.

Isnt Pakistan's premier stadium named after Gaddafi?

Do you support the invasion of Libya and Iraq?
 
Letting baseless political issues ruin sports is an atrocity though. Same is depriving millions of fans on both sides from a good contest.

Considering the fact that this Indian govt enjoys widespread support most Indians may not be bothered about such bilateral matches.

What may be baseless for you may not be baseless for Indians.
 
Why does this responsibility fall on Pakistanis? From the consequences you described above, shouldn't it be unto the progressive Indian public to stand up to their government and protest these atrocities?
Atrocity????? :)))
 
At some point Pakistanis will have to learn some decency and quit running after bilateral matches against India.
 
Instead of begging for cricket, PCB should try and find the alternative revenue sources. The PCB own NSK, so they have the authority to rent it to many people throughout the year, keeping in mind that no cricket is being played in NSK for quite sometimes. Similarly, they can create their own TV channel and end the monopoly of the state broadcasting channel and the other private entities. In that way they will be getting rid of the middle man. The PCB also needs to let go of some of their work force as I believe that they are over staffed, and prefer quality over quantity. They also need to improve their advertising of their local cricketing event, as they have the potential to attract more eyeballs, hence more money. Instead of holding international cricket in the expensive stadiums of UAE they can hold their events in Malaysia or Sri Lanka if they are cheaper in cost. These are very few steps that the PCB can take to avoid begging India for a cricket series every now and then and I’m sure that there may also be many other revenue streaming avenues available for the PCB as cricket is probably the most saleable brand in Pakistan.
 
These are issues to worry about later. Best to get on with the ftp for now
 
Couldn't care less.

How is this farce of a league going to work when one country doesn't want to play another one ??

So sadly while the league is a good idea for cricket it's not going to work when political games are going. Maybe in 10 years time.

You know Cricket doesn't revolve around just Pakistan and India. There are 10 other teams and they wouldn't care either if we are playing or not.
 
These are not just sporting contests they carry huge political cost.

People need to look at it from human level instead of their personal greed, friendships and few players.

Shameless people like channels, players or boards who have an economic stake will always beat these drums of bilateral cricket, it'll...

Pakistanis should show some spine and say no to the board begging for bilaterals against India.




Can you provide each Pakistani with a direct number to PCB or the chairman so they can show them each one of us has a spine?

Your generalizing statement is so full of it, how do each and every Pakistani gets dragged in to this to begin with or even the cricket lovers (all of them) for this matter?
 
The Indian govt has officially said that there will be no bilateral series with Pakistan.

Ofcourse the Indian govt doesnot want Pakistanis to make money from India.There is nothing to hide.

You are not a fool you are ignorant.


http://m.hindustantimes.com/cricket...ay-goel/story-R1oKp6eiGmEQbxks0ecteJ_amp.html

Statement by Indian sports minister.



https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.indi...on-pakistani-players-vijay-goel/1/960360.html


India refused to give visas to Pakistani kabbadi players.

Its official Indian govt policy that there should be no bilateral sporting ties beyween India and Pakistan.

Wonder your "Indian" friends didnot tell you this.

What does this do to the legal/litigation course that the PCB are pursuing WRT the MOU?
 
Instead of begging for cricket, PCB should try and find the alternative revenue sources. The PCB own NSK, so they have the authority to rent it to many people throughout the year, keeping in mind that no cricket is being played in NSK for quite sometimes. Similarly, they can create their own TV channel and end the monopoly of the state broadcasting channel and the other private entities. In that way they will be getting rid of the middle man. The PCB also needs to let go of some of their work force as I believe that they are over staffed, and prefer quality over quantity. They also need to improve their advertising of their local cricketing event, as they have the potential to attract more eyeballs, hence more money. Instead of holding international cricket in the expensive stadiums of UAE they can hold their events in Malaysia or Sri Lanka if they are cheaper in cost. These are very few steps that the PCB can take to avoid begging India for a cricket series every now and then and I’m sure that there may also be many other revenue streaming avenues available for the PCB as cricket is probably the most saleable brand in Pakistan.

Well put. Spot on. The PCB has to be Pakistan fan reliant and not BCCI reliant for their revenues.
 
What does this do to the legal/litigation course that the PCB are pursuing WRT the MOU?

Likely Force Majeure.

Let PCB go to court, i wonder which court will have jurisdiction?

Secondly this thread is about ICC test and odi league.Someone said its Bcci that doesnot want to play and that govt has no issues.Thing is govt has taken a policy decision not to have bilateral sporting ties with Pakistan.
 
Likely Force Majeure.

Let PCB go to court, i wonder which court will have jurisdiction?

Secondly this thread is about ICC test and odi league.Someone said its Bcci that doesnot want to play and that govt has no issues.Thing is govt has taken a policy decision not to have bilateral sporting ties with Pakistan.

Exactly what I have always wondered ever since the PCB announced that it was pursuing legal course.
 
At some point Pakistanis will have to learn some decency and quit running after bilateral matches against India.

At some point Indians will have to learn how to honour their words - cause right now even if they write down a promise it's not worth anything
 
No one cares. Please extend this to LOI ICC tournaments as well...
 
the issue here is dont play us, but then your so called moral high ground is thrown out of the window when you start playing us in ICC tournament. Doesn't make one bit of sense...

Frankly i do not care less if pak plays india but there has to be consequences for India, points should automatically be rewarded to pakistan.
 
How difficult it is to understand that India doesnot want to keep bilateral sporting ties with Pakistan?Thats pretty plain and simple.No whining nothing.

Isnt Pakistan's premier stadium named after Gaddafi?

Do you support the invasion of Libya and Iraq?

It isn't difficult to understand.

You said "keep whining", i responded, "BCCI is whining, whining about not to play a particular team".

You said, various government had rolled out the red carpet for your beloved, one and only, the savior of particular group of people, and I responded, "Saddam and Gaddafi used to get the same treatment". And both were killing innocent while they got the similar treatment. But, enjoy!

How difficult is that to understand?
 
the issue here is dont play us, but then your so called moral high ground is thrown out of the window when you start playing us in ICC tournament. Doesn't make one bit of sense...

Frankly i do not care less if pak plays india but there has to be consequences for India, points should automatically be rewarded to pakistan.

The ICC is the one with power to give/take away points. But there is total silence in their end.
 
It isn't difficult to understand.

You said "keep whining", i responded, "BCCI is whining, whining about not to play a particular team".

You said, various government had rolled out the red carpet for your beloved, one and only, the savior of particular group of people, and I responded, "Saddam and Gaddafi used to get the same treatment". And both were killing innocent while they got the similar treatment. But, enjoy!

How difficult is that to understand?

Bcci isnt whining.Its telling everyone of their decision.Pcb is whining.

So you support killing of Saddam and Gaddafi and invasion of Libya and Iraq?
 
It's like Man Utd not playing Liverpool and then claiming to be champions of the same league. :yk

The whole thing is a farce.

Indian government is pathetic.
 
Broken record.

What would be interesting is to ask our Indian brothers whether they would like to see India play Pakistan with no conditions attached????
 
Broken record.

What would be interesting is to ask our Indian brothers whether they would like to see India play Pakistan with no conditions attached????



Sure, especially if Pakistan in turn signed a MOU prmising not to beat them with large margins...actually cross that out, how about an MOU promising not beating them at all :-)

That should get BCCI, Joshilla and ilk to welcome Pak vs India encounters with open arms especially if staged in India and all revenue going their way only as well:yk2:misbah4
 
Sure, especially if Pakistan in turn signed a MOU prmising not to beat them with large margins...actually cross that out, how about an MOU promising not beating them at all :-)

That should get BCCI, Joshilla and ilk to welcome Pak vs India encounters with open arms especially if staged in India and all revenue going their way only as well:yk2:misbah4

Unlike PCB, BCCI isnt bereft of revenues.
 
Bcci isnt whining.Its telling everyone of their decision.Pcb is whining.

So you support killing of Saddam and Gaddafi and invasion of Libya and Iraq?

Let’s see, we don’t want to play against a team. We don’t want to play in that stadium, we want blue ice cream, we don’t want to go to bed early..sound like a rich spoiled brat whining about what they want, and since parents are rich they will give them what they want to shut them up.

Neither support nor don’t support. But laying down a red carpet just like they did for Saddam or gaddafi doesnt remains to be impressive unless you’re still living in that inferiority complex.
 
At some point Indians will have to learn how to honour their words - cause right now even if they write down a promise it's not worth anything

That’s why you sue the living day lights out of them and move on. In fact, moving forward, Pakistan should avoid playing them even in ICC matches. Serves no purpose and if anything will force ICC to settle this issue once and for all since Indo-Pak matches is what sustains ICC matches financially.
 
That’s why you sue the living day lights out of them and move on. In fact, moving forward, Pakistan should avoid playing them even in ICC matches. Serves no purpose and if anything will force ICC to settle this issue once and for all since Indo-Pak matches is what sustains ICC matches financially.

Isn't there already a lawsuit on between the PCB and BCCI regarding the MOU issue? Though I am not sure where/which court.
 
Why don’t you answer my question?

Do you as a son of India want to see your nation play Pakistan with no conditions?

I do not care.If there is a match i will watch it no probs.But if the govt bans matches i donot have a problem either.

But if India is to lose points in Icc leagues due to not playing Pakistan, i will rather not play in such a league and sit out.
 
Only one thing I can say.......

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These are not just sporting contests they carry huge political cost.

People need to look at it from human level instead of their personal greed, friendships and few players.

Shameless people like channels, players or boards who have an economic stake will always beat these drums of bilateral cricket, it'll bring friendship and peace. To them off course it will bring lot of money, not for the 2 nations who won't even have a piece of mind.

There is so much politics on who is supporting whom, any gesture could have repercussions. Even before the coming of internet, there were some religious and political groups checking into Muslim only areas in India,if there is anyone supporting Pakistan, I've seen this sight first hand in 90s in Ahmedabad and a group of street children had indian flags painted on their face in fear of a indian political group comes checking. Most sensitive time is when Pakistan wins in these contests against India, Pakistanis mite find indians crying, breaking their tv amusing but there are lot of issues beneath the surface.

After last win at champions trophy, certain political groups lodged complaints verbally based on a facebook post or having found complainants who mite have personal tiff with someone from the muslim community. BJP student group not only lodge FIRs but enter university premises to protest if there are anyone from a community who they feel has celebrated Pakistan win like Kashmiris. Amity University faced such protests even if their is a hint that they've supported Pakistan, universities immediately suspend or rusticate them. Aligarh University rusticated few Kashmiri students on a tweet glorifying a Kashmiri militant.

PAkistanis need to understand that India is a lot different from 2008 and there are serious consequences for such contests.

This contest won't improve the lives of many they are just sporting events who'll benefit the few and losers will be those who are at wrong at wrong time.

Insuch a climate such contests are unnecessary.

Pakistanis should show some spine and say no to the board begging for bilaterals against India.

Surely the solution here is for Indians to show some spine and not to simply accept that it is ok for religious and political groups to arrest and/or attack Pakistani fans living in India?

:afaq

Surely the solution here isn't to cut sporting ties due to a bunch of idiots who have a detrimental effect on peoples lives due to a sporting event and instead these idiots should be removed from the system. Surely its time that the Indians show some spine and do that?

This would be the same as a Pakistani fan claiming that rather than trying to eradicate terrorism in Pakistan so that international cricket can return to the country, the authorities should just 'show some spine' and move the PCB head quarters to Dubai...
 
Can you provide each Pakistani with a direct number to PCB or the chairman so they can show them each one of us has a spine?

Your generalizing statement is so full of it, how do each and every Pakistani gets dragged in to this to begin with or even the cricket lovers (all of them) for this matter?

Never meant to generalize but to be honest Pakistanis do lack self worth and are doing more for India than Najam Sethi or PCB.

Please go & check indian-based cricket websites, how many are reporting Hasan Ali's recent performance in BPL or promoting other Pakistani cricketers' ?

They only report the negatives like how it was reported when Tharanga pulled out or their 40 cricketers wrote to consider the tour or Hafeez getting banned and they're doing this for a longtime, they don't intend to show any Pakistani positively and compare that to Pakistanis.

Yesterday I saw a small news of an Indian media outlet posted here, its title was BCCI to 'consider' playing Pakistan, this is the umpteenth such post of non-credible media posted by a member just to promote how indian board is benevolent and then we blame others.

I don't mention indian players or even write about them there are many on pakpassion like me, who don't even visit posts highlighting indian cricket. And others should also think about Pakistani cricket only. Indian media does'nt let go even asmall negative report of Pakistani cricketer go away, most should do everything by doing their bit, to promote Pakistani cricket as much as we can. We can't do anything about PCB behaviour but we can do a lot with ourselves by making indian cricket irrelevant in our forums just as they ignore us.

I'm also fed up with these BCCI promoting posts, Pakistan does'nt need bilaterals with India to make millions it can do it itself. Pakistan and India never played between 1962 & 1978, and they should'nt even play in ICC tournaments also due to the political issues and their usage by political factions in India to promote their own ideology.


There is a huge diaspora in UK, US and Canada that can bring loads of ideas and money to PCB. There are local businesses as well, remove cronyism like Shakeel Sheikh, bring a Javed Afridi or Rana Fawad in the board instead of PSL and give him one year, PCB will be in a much better financial position. PCB needs to sue

BCCI they are already doing damage to us, its time we do the needful.
Stop publicizing Indian cricket and cricketers.
PCB can limit their reliance from sponsorships and some bigwigs in the board of Governors, PCB can generate revenue by interacting directly with fans of the game thru social media andmarekt and earn from digital content. There are lot of serious ways to improve PCB financially, but first stop this defeating conversation regard to india.
 
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Top teams getting knocked out of competitions before they've had a chance to play against each other is simply the nature of sporting competitions. That'swhy the likes of Real, Barca, Bayern Munich, Juventus, Man Utd etc. don't all play against each other every season in the Champions league.

However, to set up a major competition, especially an international competition, in such a way so as to ensure that some top teams never play against each other for political reasons, basically makes the competition meaningless. How can the competition winners claim to be the best if the competition is deliberately designed to allow them to avoid another top opponent playing in the same competition?

Would the Champions League have any meaning if it was deliberately set up to prevent any Barcelona v Real Madrid matches taking place at any stage of the competition?

Would the EPL have any meaning if the two Man Utd v Liverpool home and away matches were excluded when the fixture lists came out and the matches never took place? Even more so if either one became Champions, and/or both finished in the top four and thus qualified for the Champions League, but only by pipping Chelsea and Man City on goal difference?
 
Sports Ministry to meet BCCI over Pakistan commitments

BCCI will meet Union Sports Minister Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore on Wednesday to discuss the potential inclusion of a series against Pakistan in the Future Tours Programme as part of the upcoming ICC Test championship.

It is understood that the meeting was called after BCCI secretary Amitabh Choudhary had indicated last week that the board was trying its best to keep Pakistan away from the FTP. Express understands that Choudhary’s comment hasn’t gone down well with the Union Sports Ministry as it had not issued any directives to the BCCI regarding playing Pakistan. The Ministry always had a policy of not opposing India playing Pakistan in ICC events.

In the past, the Centre had prevented India from touring Pakistan last year citing political tension between the two. However, it didn’t oppose the teams playing each other in ICC events.

The ICC, which has drawn up a Test World Championship, wants each member to play each other at least once. Each team will play at least three Tests series home and away with members free to negotiate more. The league, which will begin in 2019 and run till 2021, was recently approved, and the BCCI is already finalising the FTP. However, even before the plan was put on paper, Choudhary hinted that playing Pakistan won’t be an option under current circumstances.

It is understood that following the reports, ICC Chairman Shashank Manohar held talks with the Committee of Administrators (CoA) and apprised them of the situation, as isolating Pakistan would affect the game in general and it would cause the ICC Test Championship to lose its purpose. With treasurer Anirudh Chaudhary also not kept in the loop, it is understood that the CoA stepped in on Tuesday in Mumbai, and has directed BCCI CEO Rahul Johri, game development manager Ratnakar Shetty to meet the Union Sports Ministry to solve the impasse. It is also learnt that Amitabh Choudary won’t be part of the meeting in Delhi.

It is reliably learnt that the Sports Ministry won’t stop BCCI from including a series against Pakistan as it falls directly under the ICC Test championship. If India commit and then forfeit, then Pakistan will potentially gain points.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/spo...t-bcci-over-pakistan-commitments-1707515.html
 
Yes, please don't play with us. In the end, it would benefit Pakistan :)
Jokes aside, what if Pakistan and India collide in a decider?
I am sure at that time all morals values and rules of BCCI and it's Gov will be changed automatically :))
 
Top BCCI officials meet sports minister to discuss NADA, series with Pakistan

At loggerheads with the National Anti-Doping Agency (NADA) on the testing of Indian cricketers, the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) on Wednesday discussed the matter with Sports Minister Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore and also sought the government’s view on playing arch-foes Pakistan in the planned ICC Test Championship.

NADA wants to bring Indian cricketers in its net but the cricket board has rejected the demand. BCCI has insisted that it is a WADA-compliant organisation so there was no need for it come under NADA’s supervision.

The BCCI has its Special General Meeting (SGM) scheduled for December 9, where the NADA issue has now been added to the agenda after the meeting with Rathore.

BCCI CEO Rahul Johri and General Manager (Administration and Game Development) Prof. Ratnakar Shetty, who is well-versed with the BCCI’s anti-doping policy, met Rathore at his office for about 45 minutes.

“The topic of discussion today was about NADA and WADA. During yesterday’s meeting, it was decided that Rahul will be accompanied by Prof Shetty as he is aware about the anti-doping policy of BCCI. There were some other operational topics discussed but main was anti doping policy,” a BCCI official told PTI on conditions of anonymity.

The ministry’s view, which is not yet clear, will now be conveyed to officials and also discussed at the SGM.

When CK Khanna, the acting BCCI President, was contacted, he confirmed that anti-doping policy has been added to the agenda.

Another BCCI official said, “This meeting was a courtesy call and was planned long ago. Since Rathore took charge, they wanted to meet him. All issues, including cricketing ties with Pakistan, was discussed.”

“Anyway, playing Pakistan or not, it is not only the decision of Sports Ministry but it lies mainly with PMO and the Home Ministry,” the official said.

Also discussed was the contentious issue of playing Pakistan. India has not played any bilateral series with Pakistan since the limited overs series featuring two T20Is and three ODIs in India in 2012-13. The Twenty20 series was drawn and Pakistan won the ODIs 2-1.

As per the ICC Future Tours Program, each of its member countries are bound to play against each other at least once and if India do not play with Pakistan, they would lose points.

As per the format, each team would play at least three home and away Test series respectively and members are free to negotiate more series (between 2019 to 2021) depending on availability.

In 2014, BCCI and PCB had signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) to play six bilateral series between 2015 and 2023.

However, after India refused to play Pakistan due to strained relations, the PCB sent a notice of dispute to the Indian Board, claiming losses due to the BCCI’s refusal to tour Pakistan in 2015.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/crick...th-pakistan/story-9hCOnQRJZYSFXizrG9H6MP.html
 
I do not care.If there is a match i will watch it no probs.But if the govt bans matches i donot have a problem either.

But if India is to lose points in Icc leagues due to not playing Pakistan, i will rather not play in such a league and sit out.

please
 
My issue here is not with the PCB or BCCI, but with the ICC. Both the PCB and BCCI are within their rights to play or refuse. But why is the ICC silent. They should come out and lay down the rules of the test league. Unfortunately....total silence.
 
My issue here is not with the PCB or BCCI, but with the ICC. Both the PCB and BCCI are within their rights to play or refuse. But why is the ICC silent. They should come out and lay down the rules of the test league. Unfortunately....total silence.

They cannot force Indian govt to allow Indo-Pak series. If India is docked points for not playing Pakistan it may create a huge furore in India and India may even sit out of the league.Will ICC be able to finance such a league and get sponsors for it if India isnt a part of it?
 
India is like a bipolar girlfriend. She hates you, and then she wants a hug, a minute later she hates you again. Right now, she is in her crazy phase. Whocares, move along, been seeing these cycles since Pakistan was founded. Pakistan cricket will survive with or without India.
 
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India is like a bipolar girlfriend. She hates you, and then she wants a hug, a minute later she hates you again. Right now, she is in her crazy phase. Whocares, move along, been seeing these cycles since Pakistan was founded. Pakistan cricket will survive with or without India.

Exactly...it has survived long enough and will continue to do so. One thing I don't understand...Indians on one hand will say we don't want any bilateral relations with Pakistan (Isolation and what not) and will refuse to even consider honoring what they agreed to.. but then will shamelessly ask Pakistan to do something for them...like arrest X and Y or vote for the big 3.

You can't scratch our back when you don't let us scratch yours.
 
India is like a bipolar girlfriend. She hates you, and then she wants a hug, a minute later she hates you again. Right now, she is in her crazy phase. Whocares, move along, been seeing these cycles since Pakistan was founded. Pakistan cricket will survive with or without India.

Exactly...it has survived long enough and will continue to do so. One thing I don't understand...Indians on one hand will say we don't want any bilateral relations with Pakistan (Isolation and what not) and will refuse to even consider honoring what they agreed to.. but then will shamelessly ask Pakistan to do something for them...like arrest X and Y or vote for the big 3.

You can't scratch our back when you don't let us scratch yours.

Its PCB which is dying for a series with India.Dont see BCCI asking for a series in years. Pretty obvious which board is behaving as a clingy money hungry girlfriend.
 
If a series between India vs Pakistan is ever played than I will personally boycott that series. Enough is enough. I might change that stance if it’s our home series 😜😜😜
 
Its PCB which is dying for a series with India.Dont see BCCI asking for a series in years. Pretty obvious which board is behaving as a clingy money hungry girlfriend.

CJ bhai - We've been through this million times. You make yourself feel good by calling us money hungry but we only ask for what was agreed to be given to us. You guys snaked us and expect us to let it go...that's just not going to happen. India can choose to drag it on but it will have to deal with this issue one day.
 
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