BD High Performance squad to play against Pak High Performance squad in Pakistan [Update # 260]

[Executioner]

Zimbo series and PSL final went smoothly. Terrorism has died down.

Pakistan should not tour BD because of ISIS threat. Infact cancel bilateral relations with this ungrateful minnow.

Zimbo and PSL final where:

1) Zimbabwe players were forced by their board to.take part. In PSL final.a lot of international cricketers withdrew their names

2) Matches were played with 10000 security personnel. Drones here and there.

And you call bangladesh a Minnow but recently bangladesh have been outperforming other teams and are actually winning matches including tests.

Let's be honest, BCB is more influential and financially more capable than PCB. Add to that our domestic players are better compensated and domestic completion superior to that of Pakistan as of now. Our cricket is heading in the right direction.

BCB has no obligation to help Pakistan at the expense of their players good will.

Reality is BCB's asset is not PCB. It's the players. If BCB loses out of favor with PCB or even BCCI that won't hurt much. But if BCB loses favor with the leading cricketers than Bangladesh will be in severe spot of bother. BCB is protecting PCB's interest.

Also you are saying bangladesh is a terrorist State but fewer people have died in Bangladesh in the last few years in supposed terrorist attacks than the average deaths per month in Pakistan in similar events. I am a well wisher and I disgust it all.

But calling bangladesh a terrorist State is such utter nonsense. Either you are deaf or you are intentionally mentioning false information so that people looks down upon us. Unfortunately for you your endeavors are useless.

Australia have decided to tour bangladesh. BPL had several international cricketers worldwide and no presidential level security was provided.

 

[Executioner]

So much arrogance after getting absolutely mauled for 2 decades.....

No wonder no set of fans ever want to indulge with Bdeshis in general. Heck I'd even be willing to discuss cricket with an Indian than any of BD fans.

The irony here is that every Indian fan are of the same opinion as every bangladeshi fan about touring Pakistan.

Find 3 Indian fans on this forum who believes bangladesh should definitely tour Pakistan and also compensate for losses of Pakistan because Pakistan can't arrange cricket in Pakistan which is absolutely not the fault of Bangladesh cricket board.

I have no idea what does PCB really want. Commandoes being sent from bangladesh to weed out terrorists from.the streets of Pakistan?

Arrogance is when you make statements which aren't backed by stats.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

If Pakistan isn't safe for cricket then BD isn't safe for cricket.

Our cricketers should not risk their lives in BD.

Worse still BD security is untested and they have ISIS problem.

 

[Executioner]

If Pakistan isn't safe for cricket then BD isn't safe for cricket.

Our cricketers should not risk their lives in BD.

Worse still BD security is untested and they have ISIS problem.

On the basis of what?

England was satisfied by bangladesh's security protocol.

Once again I want you to show me "facts" and not useless remarks.

 

[saeed5646]

i hope ban remains safe as it is today but if things got wrong in the future for them Pak should not

help ban in any way so then they can feel the pain pak is suffering today

as for BCB is concerned they have every rights to reject to play in pak as so PCB have all the rights to

cancel the tour of ban so pcb should not tour ban unless their is middle ground for both the boards

 

[saeed5646]

Zimbo and PSL final where:

1) Zimbabwe players were forced by their board to.take part. In PSL final.a lot of international cricketers withdrew their names

2) Matches were played with 10000 security personnel. Drones here and there.

And you call bangladesh a Minnow but recently bangladesh have been outperforming other teams and are actually winning matches including tests.

Let's be honest, BCB is more influential and financially more capable than PCB. Add to that our domestic players are better compensated and domestic completion superior to that of Pakistan as of now. Our cricket is heading in the right direction.

BCB has no obligation to help Pakistan at the expense of their players good will.

Reality is BCB's asset is not PCB. It's the players. If BCB loses out of favor with PCB or even BCCI that won't hurt much. But if BCB loses favor with the leading cricketers than Bangladesh will be in severe spot of bother. BCB is protecting PCB's interest.

Also you are saying bangladesh is a terrorist State but fewer people have died in Bangladesh in the last few years in supposed terrorist attacks than the average deaths per month in Pakistan in similar events. I am a well wisher and I disgust it all.

But calling bangladesh a terrorist State is such utter nonsense. Either you are deaf or you are intentionally mentioning false information so that people looks down upon us. Unfortunately for you your endeavors are useless.

Australia have decided to tour bangladesh. BPL had several international cricketers worldwide and no presidential level security was provided.

why did ban women tour pakistan did their life is cheaper than ban men team.??

 

[Executioner]

why did ban women tour pakistan did their life is cheaper than ban men team.??

Because those are low profile visits and low profile visits don't have any attention. I don't even your average cricket crazy fan in Bangladesh can even name a single player from women's team. Obviously that means the women's team is not a suitable target like Lankan's men team.

On the contrary Mushfiq and Tamim have travelled to Pakistan in the last few years. But hey do average people know? Ofcourse not. These are low profile visits. But an entire squad of players travelling to Pakistan with the world knowing is completely different.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Because those are low profile visits and low profile visits don't have any attention. I don't even your average cricket crazy fan in Bangladesh can even name a single player from women's team. Obviously that means the women's team is not a suitable target like Lankan's men team.

On the contrary Mushfiq and Tamim have travelled to Pakistan in the last few years. But hey do average people know? Ofcourse not. These are low profile visits. But an entire squad of players travelling to Pakistan with the world knowing is completely different.

This logic makes no sense.

If the security situation is bad then why send the womens team? Why send anyone?

If they were fine then what does this say about security in pak?

Hasina is playing politics and you have a complex and this is why BD can't even come for 2 matches.

I really want all bilteral relations to be stopped with BD. Obnoxious fans stuck in the past.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Who cares? They are within their rights not to tour, if they have better options let them get on with it rather than get involved in subcontinent politics.

Pakistan should also look at other options, it's no disaster, there's plenty of cricket for individuals with the proliferation of T20 tournaments.

 

[the Great Khan]

the boycott continues. I think its quite clear this is now a political boycott and has nothing to do with cricket.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

the boycott continues. I think its quite clear this is now a political boycott and has nothing to do with cricket.

BD have probably been bribed by a certain superpower neighbour. No biggie, that's the way the world works. Money talks in this game especially as the game is limited to a few countries unlike bigger sports like football.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

BD have probably been bribed by a certain superpower neighbour. No biggie, that's the way the world works. Money talks in this game especially as the game is limited to a few countries unlike bigger sports like football.

The best thing we can do right now is to win a ICC tourney and rub it in their minnow faces.

I appreciate genuine reasons but this is dirty politics against a party that did everything they could to help. There is no reciprocation just envy and malice.

 

[Executioner]

Yes BCCI is paying not.only bangladesh but all other boards to not tour Pakistan.
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] please share insider information about how BCCI gave each boards about 500 USD to not tour Pakistan

 

[Pakpak]

Yes BCCI is paying not.only bangladesh but all other boards to not tour Pakistan.

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] please share insider information about how BCCI gave each boards about 500 USD to not tour Pakistan

Its a common known fact certain boards are in BCCI pockets, no need to be salty about it. Your government is very pro India and very anti-Pakistan as well. I don't really mind, whatever floats your peoples' boats, but to deny it is closing your eyes.

 

[SamNJ]

Should look for bigger team coz even if BD tour it will not have much impact. #Phateechar

 

[the Great Khan]

BD have probably been bribed by a certain superpower neighbour. No biggie, that's the way the world works. Money talks in this game especially as the game is limited to a few countries unlike bigger sports like football.

I wouldnt be surprised. There is a clear agenda from certain quarters to prevent cricket from returning to Pakistan. One has to wonder who would benefit from the continued boycott. As they say Cui Bono?

 

[Test fan]

first pak look at own security situation bcz u can't force any nation to come and play here in these condition .yes u have played psl final in Lahore but in surrounding 15k police or army men that not good for player to concentrate on own game when they fear.

 

[Syed1]

IK's comment about pateechar players comes to mind. We need to get rid of the habit of inviting such players.

 

[Hitman]

After the attack on the Sri Lankan team in 2009, it's surprising that some Pak fans still have a leg to stand on and make their point.

 

[Hitman]

After the attack on the Sri Lankan team in 2009, it's surprising that some Pak fans still have a leg to stand on and make their point.

Presidential level security was promised to the Sri Lankan team, wasn't it? And what did they get in return? They barely returned with their life intact to their families.

 

[saeed5646]

Presidential level security was promised to the Sri Lankan team, wasn't it? And what did they get in return? They barely returned with their life intact to their families.

wake up it is not 2009

8 years without cricket in pak is enough payback

 

[in_cutter]

The best thing we can do right now is to win a ICC tourney and rub it in their minnow faces.

I appreciate genuine reasons but this is dirty politics against a party that did everything they could to help. There is no reciprocation just envy and malice.

Lets not be arrogant & refer to BD as a minnow. Checked the ODI rankings lately? I don't know why some of you ppl are upset/surprised at their refusal to tour. They are within their rights.

 

[saeed5646]

Yes BCCI is paying not.only bangladesh but all other boards to not tour Pakistan.

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] please share insider information about how BCCI gave each boards about 500 USD to not tour Pakistan

when was last time BCB opposed BCCi in icc or vote against them

just curious i have no idea please let me know

 

[saeed5646]

Because those are low profile visits and low profile visits don't have any attention. I don't even your average cricket crazy fan in Bangladesh can even name a single player from women's team. Obviously that means the women's team is not a suitable target like Lankan's men team.

On the contrary Mushfiq and Tamim have travelled to Pakistan in the last few years. But hey do average people know? Ofcourse not. These are low profile visits. But an entire squad of players travelling to Pakistan with the world knowing is completely different.

bro now you are biased

it is easier to target a low profile team due to less security than the high profile team which have more than

20 thousand police approximately standing for the security .it would have make alot of sense have

bcb not send women team

 

[Shutdown Corner]

The BCB can shift this series to the UAE. Thata better as the series in July will be unplayable due to rain. However I can see the PCB cancelling bilateral relations here.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

when was last time BCB opposed BCCi in icc or vote against them

just curious i have no idea please let me know

Last month when only the SLC and ZC supported or stayed neutral.

 

[saeed5646]

Last month when only the SLC and ZC supported or stayed neutral.

for what

 

[saeed5646]

The BCB can shift this series to the UAE. Thata better as the series in July will be unplayable due to rain. However I can see the PCB cancelling bilateral relations here.

surely you know the temperature of uae in june july

 

[MMHS]

Of all the "demands", & "threats", only point that can be worked is revenue sharing. PCB indeed is suffering financially, so they can ask some flexibility in terms of revenue.

It's not like BCB will share their media or endorsement money, but what PCB can ask for is may be 3 extra ODI, 1 Test & 2 T20 (make it a 3+6+4 Match Series) & may be 50-50 or media money for the extra matches, with BCB keeping the gate money for the operating expenses. That scheduled Series can start a week or 2 earlier & finish a week or two later - those extra matches are out of FTP, therefore almost unearned money; SRL, WI & ZIMBOK Board is doing that with BCCI for several years, without revenue sharing; BCB can go one step further because PAK team is not actually Zimboks.

Otherwise, if PCB thinks that they can bully BCB with a boycott threat, they are most welcome - I don't mind watching a bit of Faisal Bank, Summer Edition ................

 

[MMHS]

surely you know the temperature of uae in june july

I know, I have been at Dubai, Karachi, Lahore & Abu Dhabi precisely in between Mid June to late July. It's much pleasant in UAE due to low humidity - under scorching sun, it's burning heat, but once the Sun starts to fade, it's much more pleasant than subcontinent. For ODI, a 5PM start is much better in UAE than in Pakistan. T20 is not even an issue for a 8PM start.

 

[saeed5646]

I know, I have been at Dubai, Karachi, Lahore & Abu Dhabi precisely in between Mid June to late July. It's much pleasant in UAE due to low humidity - under scorching sun, it's burning heat, but once the Sun starts to fade, it's much more pleasant than subcontinent. For ODI, a 5PM start is much better in UAE than in Pakistan. T20 is not even an issue for a 8PM start.

he was talking about entire series(may be i get it wrong) in uae .T20s can be played by the looks of it not

sure test or odis in uae at that time

 

[MMHS]

he was talking about entire series(may be i get it wrong) in uae .T20s can be played by the looks of it not

sure test or odis in uae at that time

ODI as well - PAK did play against AUS in August for 5PM start. Besides, this current "offer" is for 2 T20s ........

 

[saeed5646]

ODI as well - PAK did play against AUS in August for 5PM start. Besides, this current "offer" is for 2 T20s ........

don,t think it would have happen now.Pcb have not invited ban in uae in past and current situation is getting

worse b/w the two boards but you never knows the u turn of our board

 

[Napa]

when was last time BCB opposed BCCi in icc or vote against them

just curious i have no idea please let me know

The sucking up to BCCI/Ind may cost them in future.

Blaming others for your problems is not the way to be successful.

The security situation in Pakistan is not obviously better than it was when the SL team was attacked. One can hardly blame BCB let alone BCCI.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Blaming others for your problems is not the way to be successful.

The security situation in Pakistan is not obviously better than it was when the SL team was attacked. One can hardly blame BCB let alone BCCI.

I think Indian comments would just fuel the suspicion. No need for you guys to take an interest in this, I doubt you would see any other Big 3 team's supporter commenting on a BD tour.

 

[Syed1]

I know, I have been at Dubai, Karachi, Lahore & Abu Dhabi precisely in between Mid June to late July. It's much pleasant in UAE due to low humidity - under scorching sun, it's burning heat, but once the Sun starts to fade, it's much more pleasant than subcontinent. For ODI, a 5PM start is much better in UAE than in Pakistan. T20 is not even an issue for a 8PM start.

You haven't been to Karachi then.

After sun sets there is no place more pleasant then Karachi because the cool sea breeze starts to blow.

 

[Usman Chadda]

For all the Bengali posters dreaming of an invitation to the UAE, sorry but Bangladesh is not good enough to be hosted over there at the moment. Pakistan makes enough losses even when they invite Australia, England, South Africa etc.

 

[MMHS]

You haven't been to Karachi then.

After sun sets there is no place more pleasant then Karachi because the cool sea breeze starts to blow.

True, it's a port city. But can you play cricket in South Asia till 2AM with a wet ball from humidity? CTG is much more pleasant than Karachi - check what happens there even in August after 10PM.

 

[MMHS]

For all the Bengali posters dreaming of an invitation to the UAE, sorry but Bangladesh is not good enough to be hosted over there at the moment. Pakistan makes enough losses even when they invite Australia, England, South Africa etc.

Utter nonsense again - you were probably one of those posters lobbying for boycotting BPL by PAK players, which didn't help with the number of PAK players cuing for the auction. I wonder, why some of you are so proud still after Ian Chappel pulled down even the underwear in open air!!!!!! At this rate, PCB will need to lobby Afghan's for a tour in future. BCB need not dream - PCB'll come with a revised offer to play bilateral series at neutral venues, you can mark this post - only a matter of 1/2 years.

But yes, there is no point arranging series in UAE at premium operating cost, which can easily be compensated in Srilanka or Bangladesh.

 

[saeed5646]

Utter nonsense again - you were probably one of those posters lobbying for boycotting BPL by PAK players, which didn't help with the number of PAK players cuing for the auction. I wonder, why some of you are so proud still after Ian Chappel pulled down even the underwear in open air!!!!!! At this rate, PCB will need to lobby Afghan's for a tour in future. BCB need not dream - PCB'll come with a revised offer to play bilateral series at neutral venues, you can mark this post - only a matter of 1/2 years.

But yes, there is no point arranging series in UAE at premium operating cost, which can easily be compensated in Srilanka or Bangladesh.

if ian chappel says bangladesh should visit pak would you agree with him that also

i am surprised you take Ian more serious than aus does .

 

[Usman Chadda]

Utter nonsense again - you were probably one of those posters lobbying for boycotting BPL by PAK players, which didn't help with the number of PAK players cuing for the auction. I wonder, why some of you are so proud still after Ian Chappel pulled down even the underwear in open air!!!!!! At this rate, PCB will need to lobby Afghan's for a tour in future. BCB need not dream - PCB'll come with a revised offer to play bilateral series at neutral venues, you can mark this post - only a matter of 1/2 years.

But yes, there is no point arranging series in UAE at premium operating cost, which can easily be compensated in Srilanka or Bangladesh.

I don't care about the BPL so no, I'm not one of those people. You have a consistent habit of making some absolute nonsense predictions/statements then running away for a few days only to return again to do the same. So rather than take your post or anything you ever write seriously and respond to it, I would once again ascertain the point about Bangladesh not being good enough right now to get tours to any part of the world except Sri Lanka or Zimbabwe. The PCB operates at a loss in the UAE even when they invite the likes of Australia, England, South Africa etc. No way in a million years will the PCB ever invite Bangladesh to the UAE, which is why we have this dramaybaazi every year of an invitation to Pakistan or no home series at all.

 

[MMHS]

if ian chappel says bangladesh should visit pak would you agree with him that also

i am surprised you take Ian more serious than aus does .

Ian Chappel was a great cricket strategist, not diplomat or politician - I think, I have written several times that I rate Ian Chappel highest on cricket issues. What do you think - one should take Ian Chappel seriously on security or foreign policy issues or cricket issues?

 

[saeed5646]

Ian Chappel was a great cricket strategist, not diplomat or politician - I think, I have written several times that I rate Ian Chappel highest on cricket issues. What do you think - one should take Ian Chappel seriously on security or foreign policy issues or cricket issues?

of course on cricket issues but he is controversial person many don,t take him seriously

read that gem from him

Ian Chappell says African cricketer Kasigo Rabada is from a 'village

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nnesburg-cricketer-Kasigo-Rabada-village.html

 

[Zak_Fan]

wake up it is not 2009

8 years without cricket in pak is enough payback

You think teams not touring Pakistan all these years was a "payback"?

 

[MMHS]

I don't care about the BPL so no, I'm not one of those people. You have a consistent habit of making some absolute nonsense predictions/statements then running away for a few days only to return again to do the same. So rather than take your post or anything you ever write seriously and respond to it, I would once again ascertain the point about Bangladesh not being good enough right now to get tours to any part of the world except Sri Lanka or Zimbabwe. The PCB operates at a loss in the UAE even when they invite the likes of Australia, England, South Africa etc. No way in a million years will the PCB ever invite Bangladesh to the UAE, which is why we have this dramaybaazi every year of an invitation to Pakistan or no home series at all.

Really? I thought I gave you enough on those predictions ......... Can you show any evidence tat I posted a comment & didn't back that argument? I am not going to let this fade away - as per your statement, show me one example that I posted - "some absolute nonsense predictions/statements then running away for a few days only to return again to do the same" - otherwise I'll keep you reminding

Now for the last part - do you see the hippocracy in your post? Bangladesh is not good enough, so PCB does the dramabazi, them some PAK posters here color it with India backed politics.

Million year is a bit too long - neither of us is expected to live that long, but may be in a year or two, we'll revisit this post - like many other posts with my predictions/statements.

Anyway - man up, back up your shallow comment. It's my disgust to drag these things, but ...

 

[MMHS]

of course on cricket issues but he is controversial person many don,t take him seriously

read that gem from him

Ian Chappell says African cricketer Kasigo Rabada is from a 'village

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nnesburg-cricketer-Kasigo-Rabada-village.html

What' wrong with that? he might have come form village. There are many players coming from village. In fact, village demarcation is different in different countries - here in heart of Toronto City, they call Agincourt Village, Danforth Village, York Village, Humber Village ....

You are making it sound like Dean Jones is a racist & anti Muslim for his Amla comment. Different country has different way of expression - when 2 Punjabi's talk between them (from either side of border), even between mother & son, many people will get a hiccup ......

Still, he might be racist, but one of the best cricket minds ever.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Really? I thought I gave you enough on those predictions ......... Can you show any evidence tat I posted a comment & didn't back that argument? I am not going to let this fade away - as per your statement, show me one example that I posted - "some absolute nonsense predictions/statements then running away for a few days only to return again to do the same" - otherwise I'll keep you reminding

Now for the last part - do you see the hippocracy in your post? Bangladesh is not good enough, so PCB does the dramabazi, them some PAK posters here color it with India backed politics.

Million year is a bit too long - neither of us is expected to live that long, but may be in a year or two, we'll revisit this post - like many other posts with my predictions/statements.

Anyway - man up, back up your shallow comment. It's my disgust to drag these things, but ...

I don't have any intention of going through each and every post of the rubbish that you've posted about Pakistan cricket completely disintegrating in a few years or how Afghanistan or Bangladesh will be champion teams while Pakistan will be struggling to beat Hong Kong, Nepal etc in a few years time. Or the other times when you have consistently compared our domestic cricket to minnow teams and coming to the same conclusion stated above, while at the same time reminding us how great Mashrafe Mortaza is as a captain or how greatness will elude Pakistan cricket if they do not follow BCB's exemplary domestic structure and policies. Rings a bell now?

Yes there has been a massive decrease in quality in the last decade but Pakistan cricket is never going to end up at the bottom of the barrell competing with Hong Kong, Uganda and what-not. We absolutely thrashed Bangladesh the last time we met in a competitive match. Which is good enough reason to not invite Bangladesh to a place where we struggle to generate size-able revenue in normal circumstances.

 

[Pakpak]

Don't try to be smart..... there is no point playing bangers from a cricketing point of view, there is nothing to be gained except only cementing the places of our TTFs... the invite to bangers has only one use... if that is not to be accepted then no point playing them anywhere.

I don't know why the pcb bother when they know the wicked witch of Dhaka has almighty hatred for Pakistan.

MMHS is shocking nowadays, maybe a Pakistani in real life has said something to him who knows.

I'd suspend all cricket with Bangladesh, no point playing anything with a cricket who considers you an enemy.

 

[ahsan17]

2) Matches were played with 10000 security personnel. Drones here and there.

This is a silly argument. If Pakistan did not provide the security it did, the ICC, FICA "experts" as well experts from other boards would be all over it. The security provided was probably not too different than what BD provided to England.

Anyone making these kinds of arguments doesn't have any idea what they are talking about. Damned if you do, damned it you don't. In reality, the extra security is only a drawback for internet warriors such as yourself. Anyone worth its salt will not see it as a drawback.

 

[Specialisttailender]

I don't think you are understanding the situation. The PSL was totally safe. Terrorism has gone down significantly.

If BD can't play 2 T20 matches when they know security is exceptional and enviornment is a lot peaceful then what bilateral relation is this?

I understand western nations not touring and they have always been like this but why BD? Its politics. All politics.

Why play a minnow in UAE and make a loss? Why play in BD for pittance for the 4th time?

This is not an equal relationship. Pakistan should cancel all future tours with BD till Hasina is gone.

We need to work with SL wholeheartedly. Pakistan played in SL when bomb blasts went off nearby during their civil war and still carried on. We need to nuture our relationship with them.

With BD im sorry to say the politics has spoilt this relationship. No more hand of friendship and full tours. Time we give you an India 1 test special silly silly minnow.

Sri Lanka lot its trust on Pakistan after their players were attacked. Sri Lanka doesn't own Pakistan anything. In fact it was India who helped out Sri Lanka during the tough time. In 2001 Sri Lankan Airforce base in Colombo sharing run way with only international airport was attacked. 15 something military planes and 3 parked Airbuses were also destroyed. Guess who landed a month later and played 3 Test matches and 5 ODIs ? India with our full strength squad. India developed a major trust in Sri Lankan security and it was never broken. Sri Lankan team will always be safe in India as long as they don't enter Tamil Nadu. Even then you will see protests not bullets.

 

[Pakpak]

Sri Lanka lot its trust on Pakistan after their players were attacked. Sri Lanka doesn't own Pakistan anything. In fact it was India who helped out Sri Lanka during the tough time. In 2001 Sri Lankan Airforce base in Colombo sharing run way with only international airport was attacked. 15 something military planes and 3 parked Airbuses were also destroyed. Guess who landed a month later and played 3 Test matches and 5 ODIs ? India with our full strength squad. India developed a major trust in Sri Lankan security and it was never broken. Sri Lankan team will always be safe in India as long as they don't enter Tamil Nadu. Even then you will see protests not bullets.

During the WC 96 every single team refused to tour SL, except Pakistan & India. And in the coming years Pakistan numerous times did the same again.

India India...sir pak gya hai India India yaahan suun ke har roz. A billion population and not a single damned Indian forum.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

MMHS is shocking nowadays, maybe a Pakistani in real life has said something to him who knows.

I'd suspend all cricket with Bangladesh, no point playing anything with a cricket who considers you an enemy.

I wouldn't mind if they were any good... matches against them are boring and dull and their fans insufferable!!

 

[Pakpak]

I wouldn't mind if they were any good... matches against them are boring and dull and their fans insufferable!!

Worst fans by far. Not a single decent BD fan I have come across here.

 

[MMHS]

I don't have any intention of going through each and every post of the rubbish that you've posted about Pakistan cricket completely disintegrating in a few years or how Afghanistan or Bangladesh will be champion teams while Pakistan will be struggling to beat Hong Kong, Nepal etc in a few years time. Or the other times when you have consistently compared our domestic cricket to minnow teams and coming to the same conclusion stated above, while at the same time reminding us how great Mashrafe Mortaza is as a captain or how greatness will elude Pakistan cricket if they do not follow BCB's exemplary domestic structure and policies. Rings a bell now?

Yes there has been a massive decrease in quality in the last decade but Pakistan cricket is never going to end up at the bottom of the barrell competing with Hong Kong, Uganda and what-not. We absolutely thrashed Bangladesh the last time we met in a competitive match. Which is good enough reason to not invite Bangladesh to a place where we struggle to generate size-able revenue in normal circumstances.

At least decent enough now - good. Regarding this proposed tour, first fix your thought on one of the options - PCB's Dramabazi or BCB's politics, then we'll talk.

Regarding PAK domestics, I actually didn't compare it with minnow teams, because most minnows have better system. I am writing it now here & whenever you are willing, we'll revisit this post - I won't go AWOL. May be in short time, you'll come to know why it's below a decent level. It's not me, ask any PAK poster, who watches cricket for the right reason, he'll tell you the difference between Mashrafee & Azhar Ali.

Only logical pat of your post is the revenue one - which, I always agree that, no point playing in UAE - BD/SRL for the time being is perfect, in future PAK, why not?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes BCCI is paying not.only bangladesh but all other boards to not tour Pakistan.

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] please share insider information about how BCCI gave each boards about 500 USD to not tour Pakistan

I have no idea why BCB should agree to tour Pakistan when no one else is. Why when no other board believes Pakistan is safe and isnt visiting Pakistan due to security reasons, why BD not touring is due to political reason or someone bribing them.

I understand that BCCI doesnt tour due to political reasons.But everyone else doesnt because there are security concerns.

 

[Executioner]

when was last time BCB opposed BCCi in icc or vote against them

just curious i have no idea please let me know

BCB recently agreed to the new revenue system which BCCI and Zim cricket opposed.

bro now you are biased

it is easier to target a low profile team due to less security than the high profile team which have more than

20 thousand police approximately standing for the security .it would have make alot of sense have

bcb not send women team

But that defeats the purpose.

You know who wins when the cricketers are surrounded by 1000s of commandoes? It's the terrorist themselves. They have been successful because they did what they wanted to do, to terrorize us.

Terrorists don't spend any effort attacking low profile people.

My point of view is that the decision is not purely on BCB. BCB has no right to get the players onto the plan to lahore. I am sorry I am a well wisher but unless Pakistan is deemed safe by the local and international media and fans in Pakistan who are realistic that day I will be happy to see Pakistan host us.

Personally if you ask me, I don't mind sending our team if security is promised. You kbkw what I mind? I mind that our players are Guinea pigs, bargaining chips in the eyes of PCB. And they even want compensation.

The cricketers are like the sons of the BCB. Everyone has put in a lot for the boys. They want to look out for the players.

 

[Specialisttailender]

During the WC 96 every single team refused to tour SL, except Pakistan & India. And in the coming years Pakistan numerous times did the same again.

India India...sir pak gya hai India India yaahan suun ke har roz. A billion population and not a single damned Indian forum.

Both countries helped Sri Lanka, in return Sri Lanka trusted both countries and who broke that trust ?

Maalu Maalu Maalu Mujhe Urdu/Hindi Nei Maalu.

 

[Executioner]

I have no idea why BCB should agree to tour Pakistan when no one else is. Why when no other board believes Pakistan is safe and isnt visiting Pakistan due to security reasons, why BD not touring is due to political reason or someone bribing them.

I understand that BCCI doesnt tour due to political reasons.But everyone else doesnt because there are security concerns.

Unfortunately people think that bangladesh being a Muslim country and a weaker team relatively has moral obligation to tour Pakistan. And to them the only thing that is holding us back is politics. Which bugs me because bangladesh has invited Pakistan 3 times in recent times and players from each country regularly play in each other's leagues. Where is politics there?

 

[MMHS]

MMHS is shocking nowadays, maybe a Pakistani in real life has said something to him who knows.

I'd suspend all cricket with Bangladesh, no point playing anything with a cricket who considers you an enemy.

No, I am perfectly stable here. And, I don't bring my personal feeling to get better of my posts.

This whole mess up is a regular annual exercise for PCB to troll some immature posters here. If you read all my posts sequentially, should have understood by now. This is 4th year running, they plan some tours, they start to invite teams from top (IND) & then start to come down - until it reaches BD, people gets crazy. The truth in, it's more with PAK people hating Hasina than she hates Pakistan.

I won't have posted here, because I understand the frustration of PAK people - but I had to when nonsense like not worthy of playing against, not financially viable than SRL/WI, politically influenced ... sort of rubbish started to pop up. This shenanigans did match to the team I started watching - this doesn't suit for the posters backing this current pathetic bunch.

You also know that very well.

 

[Executioner]

This is a silly argument. If Pakistan did not provide the security it did, the ICC, FICA "experts" as well experts from other boards would be all over it. The security provided was probably not too different than what BD provided to England.

Anyone making these kinds of arguments doesn't have any idea what they are talking about. Damned if you do, damned it you don't. In reality, the extra security is only a drawback for internet warriors such as yourself. Anyone worth its salt will not see it as a drawback.

Here is the problem. England series was scheduled. There was no real looming threat and the measures where all but precautionary. PCB on the other hand is desperate to prove that Pakistan is safe but how exactly? By posting 10000 security officials at the stadium. That is costly and meaningless in the long run. You can see PCB is trying to force things to happen. Unfortunately this is something bigger than cricket

Oh btw, if this was how every series in Bangladesh was going to be conducted then I would urge to stop untill things would get better because touring sides should be tourists and roam around freely.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Unfortunately people think that bangladesh being a Muslim country and a weaker team relatively has moral obligation to tour Pakistan. And to them the only thing that is holding us back is politics. Which bugs me because bangladesh has invited Pakistan 3 times in recent times and players from each country regularly play in each other's leagues. Where is politics there?

They also think that they can threaten Bangladesh with breaking of ties.They also think SLC is their friend where as SLC has stood more with BCCI than BCB. They tried threatening BCCI didnt work.The sense of entitlement in some fans is astonishing.

 

[Executioner]

They also think that they can threaten Bangladesh with breaking of ties.They also think SLC is their friend where as SLC has stood more with BCCI than BCB. They tried threatening BCCI didnt work.The sense of entitlement in some fans is astonishing.

Tbh I would not say BCB is BCCI's lapdog. BCCI doesn't have any affiliation with BCB neither does BCB run after BCCI. BCB is a rich board by all.means courtesy of the massive cricket crazy population of the country.

Infact PCB and BCB relations were stronger than BCCI and BCB. PCB provides players for BPL which India doesn't.

Someone needs to be told that BCB has zero political motives here. Our board president is part of AL. He has not made a single anti-pakistan sentiment just yet. Infact under him we repaired our relationship with PCB after Mostafa kamal and Zaka Ashraf messed it up

 

[cricketjoshila]

Tbh I would not say BCB is BCCI's lapdog. BCCI doesn't have any affiliation with BCB neither does BCB run after BCCI. BCB is a rich board by all.means courtesy of the massive cricket crazy population of the country.

Infact PCB and BCB relations were stronger than BCCI and BCB. PCB provides players for BPL which India doesn't.

Someone needs to be told that BCB has zero political motives here. Our board president is part of AL. He has not made a single anti-pakistan sentiment just yet. Infact under him we repaired our relationship with PCB after Mostafa kamal and Zaka Ashraf messed it up

BCB has zero political motives,Thats correct.No one is visiting Pakistan.So isnt BD.

But BCB have always stuck with BCCI. BD got test status when Dalmiya was ICC President.India was the first country to tour BD.Infact BCB has never gone againist BCCI. Even now BCB has changed its stance to vote with India.

Regarding BPL, well India doesnt release players for any league.

 

[ahsan17]

Here is the problem. England series was scheduled. There was no real looming threat and the measures where all but precautionary. PCB on the other hand is desperate to prove that Pakistan is safe but how exactly? By posting 10000 security officials at the stadium. That is costly and meaningless in the long run. You can see PCB is trying to force things to happen. Unfortunately this is something bigger than cricket

Oh btw, if this was how every series in Bangladesh was going to be conducted then I would urge to stop untill things would get better because touring sides should be tourists and roam around freely.

I was commenting squarely on your suggestion that 10,000 security officials is somehow a bad thing. Don't expect this to change anytime soon in most South Asian countries. If the demand is "players should be able to roam freely", you can stop playing cricket for the next 20 years in South Asian countries. Let's be realistic about what comprises 'reasonable security' and stick with that instead of expecting a utopia.

 

[Stark]

I think Indian comments would just fuel the suspicion. No need for you guys to take an interest in this, I doubt you would see any other Big 3 team's supporter commenting on a BD tour.

When you made the comment about BCCI bribing BCB, you lost the priv to ask for such considerations.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

So much rubbish from Pak posters with utter nonsense who don't want to actually understand but only bully bd. Just nonsense. PCB should boycott BCB so as BCB should boycott PCB until other boards visit Pak. End of these nonsense of Pak posters and end of this thread.

 

[Shafi]

Utter nonsense again - you were probably one of those posters lobbying for boycotting BPL by PAK players, which didn't help with the number of PAK players cuing for the auction. I wonder, why some of you are so proud still after Ian Chappel pulled down even the underwear in open air!!!!!! At this rate, PCB will need to lobby Afghan's for a tour in future. BCB need not dream - PCB'll come with a revised offer to play bilateral series at neutral venues, you can mark this post - only a matter of 1/2 years.

But yes, there is no point arranging series in UAE at premium operating cost, which can easily be compensated in Srilanka or Bangladesh.

Don't be too sure!! You never know what can happen in future and apart from Pakistan and Sri Lanka no body will visit Bangladesh if situation gets worse. Even Great India will not help you.

 

[bleaf27]

This logic makes no sense.

If the security situation is bad then why send the womens team? Why send anyone?

If they were fine then what does this say about security in pak?

Hasina is playing politics and you have a complex and this is why BD can't even come for 2 matches.

I really want all bilteral relations to be stopped with BD. Obnoxious fans stuck in the past.

That makes complete sense , any logical and unbiased cricket fan would be able to see that . It doesn't make sense to you because you being illogical like a child willing to take a "no"

 

[bleaf27]

The irony here is that every Indian fan are of the same opinion as every bangladeshi fan about touring Pakistan.

Find 3 Indian fans on this forum who believes bangladesh should definitely tour Pakistan and also compensate for losses of Pakistan because Pakistan can't arrange cricket in Pakistan which is absolutely not the fault of Bangladesh cricket board.

I have no idea what does PCB really want. Commandoes being sent from bangladesh to weed out terrorists from.the streets of Pakistan?

Arrogance is when you make statements which aren't backed by stats.

I completely agree with your posts . Every cricket team has the right to assess the suitability of a tour. Especially when there has been a history of high profile attacks. Bangladesh has every right to decline it. What I don't understand is why would any cricket board in the world give Pakistan any compensation when Pakistan is not able to manage it's internal affairs and provide a safe place ?
Let's see if all the posters here who are asking to boycott Bangladesh for declining Pak tour would also boycott other Countries ?
Would the posters here also boycott Australia , England , NZ , West Indies , Sri Lanka and refuse to go to these countries to play because they are not willing to come to Pak ? Why single out Bangladesh ? Oh because they can be "bullied"

 

[MMHS]

Don't be too sure!! You never know what can happen in future and apart from Pakistan and Sri Lanka no body will visit Bangladesh if situation gets worse. Even Great India will not help you.

No one knows what will happen in future. As such, if it turns worse, we'll definitely need support from other boards/countries. But, that will not be like this PCB style.

As I have written earlier - if it's not feasible to play in UAE, arrange the tour at SRL, BD - even in Zimbabwe. Jun-Jul is a fantastic time to play cricket there. Make it a tringle with ZIMboks with a revenue sharing model - ZIMboks will be more than happy even with a fraction of what such tournament can earn in $US. Make it a 3 match final series which'll garuntee 5 matches between PAK-BD. It can be done in U.K. As well with IRL & Scotland.

All this indicates to me that PCB's motive was other than cricket - they want to bring a more reputed team than ZIMboks, as an image building campaign for the current govt.

The way cheerleaders are show jumping in this thread - I actually do appreciate PCB's tactics. Some how, if they can manage to land BD team for couple of T20s in PAK - it should be almost worth of 1-2% vote swing in election....... BCB called the bluff.

 

[Abdullah719]

On topic please.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

surely you know the temperature of uae in june july

Same as the heat index in Bangladesh in July. Heat index ie how the air feels in BD that time of year will be 45 degrees. Same as actual temp in UAE or Lahore.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

BCB actually voted for the ICC revamp becaus its revenue share would go up. Now if BCCI makes a counter proposal to BCB to offset the lost revenue of course the BCB will take the better deal. The difference is PCB isn't getting such offers because they are at war with BCCI.

 

[The_Odd_One]

PCB is no position to force any cricket board to play a series in Pakistan. The country is just not safe enough to host international cricket. This is a bitter truth. Bangladesh cannot be bullied just because they are not as powerful as big 3.

 

[ali2220]

PCB is no position to force any cricket board to play a series in Pakistan. The country is just not safe enough to host international cricket. This is a bitter truth. Bangladesh cannot be bullied just because they are not as powerful as big 3.

Indeed they aren't in such a situation, and the current PCB chairman never tried to force anyone so don't see why this issue is being raised.

 

[Abdullah719]

Indeed they aren't in such a situation, and the current PCB chairman never tried to force anyone so don't see why this issue is being raised.

The issue is being raised because of Shahryar Khan's comments about suing BCB. See post#81.

 

[bleaf27]

The issue is being raised because of Shahryar Khan's comments about suing BCB. See post#81.

Immature statement from SK , seems like he's looking for a quick fix after hosting PSL to solve the cricketing issues

 

[winchester]

Lets take a back seat and understand what is happening in Bangladesh right now.

There is practically a one party rule with the ruling party controlling everything from information to cricket.

The information being fed to the common man and the social media using new generation is rampantly anti-Pakistan....the most popular video game these days in Bangladesh is about killing Pakistanis and this game was financed by the Bangladeshi govt.

Sheikh Hasina herself decided with her Indian overlords to boycott the SAARC conference in Islamabad.

Since cricket I imagine plays a huge part in Bangladeshi society these days it would be hard for her to be seen helping Pakistan out in any way by her core supporters.

Bangladesh would not be touring Pakistan even if the terrorist threat was as it is in Iceland.

Now the question is even if we do tour than what benefit can we get from a BCB that can't life a finger without first asking the Hasina government??

 

[MMHS]

Lets take a back seat and understand what is happening in Bangladesh right now.

There is practically a one party rule with the ruling party controlling everything from information to cricket.

The information being fed to the common man and the social media using new generation is rampantly anti-Pakistan....the most popular video game these days in Bangladesh is about killing Pakistanis and this game was financed by the Bangladeshi govt.

Sheikh Hasina herself decided with her Indian overlords to boycott the SAARC conference in Islamabad.

Since cricket I imagine plays a huge part in Bangladeshi society these days it would be hard for her to be seen helping Pakistan out in any way by her core supporters.

Bangladesh would not be touring Pakistan even if the terrorist threat was as it is in Iceland.

Now the question is even if we do tour than what benefit can we get from a BCB that can't life a finger without first asking the Hasina government??

Apart from Hasina's Govt., there are few other memories among common Bangladeshis which shouldn't make them less be Pakistanis in general, but let's not go to there.

Why do you think that BD won't tour PAK, when the ladies team toured last year & the players were allowed to play PSL final?

 

[winchester]

Apart from Hasina's Govt., there are few other memories among common Bangladeshis which shouldn't make them less be Pakistanis in general, but let's not go to there.

Why do you think that BD won't tour PAK, when the ladies team toured last year & the players were allowed to play PSL final?

As your fellow countryman in this very thread pointed out the male team touring Pakistan would be more high profile and get more attention both in Pakistan and definitely in Bangladesh too.

The stakes are higher especially as if a tour does happen than it will be seen in Bangladesh as helping Pakistan cricket out and I don't think the Bangladesh government wants to send that message to its people.