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"Being in and out of the team does take a mental toll on any player" : Sohail Tanvir

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After the highs of a superlative performance by Pakistan in Test matches in England, the attention has now shifted to the limited over formats where the news for the visitors is not good so far. The ODI series has been lost but more than the margin of loss is the manner of capitulation which has dismayed the Pakistan followers the most. The last game of the tour, an IT20 match at Old Trafford thus represents a final opportunity for Pakistan to repair their reputation in the shorter formats of the game.

Whilst the ODI ranking has continued on a downward spiral, Pakistan’s IT20 ranking has also not fared any better as they are precariously perched at the seventh position and it is due to this that the selection of the Twenty20 squad for the one-off game in England on the 7th of September has generated a lot of interest.

Amongst the players named in the squad for this game is the thirty-one-year-old all-rounder Sohail Tanvir. Having played two Test matches and sixty-two ODIs with varying degrees of success, the left-hander’s participation in the national team has been largely limited to the Twenty20 format where he has taken forty-seven wickets in fifty matches.

In exclusive remarks to PakPassion.net, Sohail Tanvir spoke about his feelings on being recalled once again to the national squad, his performance so far in the National Twenty20 Cup, the qualities needed for bowlers to succeed in the limited overs format and looked forward to the upcoming game against England.


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Sohail last played for the national team in a Twenty20 game against England in the November of 2015. Despite being the fourth-highest wicket-taker in the Twenty20 format for Pakistan behind Shahid Afridi, Saeed Ajmal and Umar Gul, he was later discarded for tours of New Zealand, the Asia Cup and the World T20 in India. Whilst pleased with the announcement about being included in the squad for the upcoming Twenty20 game England, the all-rounder expressed his regrets about his exclusion in the past stating that “I am obviously overjoyed with another opportunity to represent Pakistan but I do wonder why I was side-lined in the first place. Being in and out of the team does take a mental toll on any player and it becomes that more difficult to establish a place for oneself in the team if this happens a lot. But thankfully I have never given up and continued working hard as I did in the Caribbean Premier League where I was the second highest wicket-taker with twenty wickets and had the best economy rate in the tournament as well. As always, it is an honour to serve Pakistan and I am looking forward to the game in England and hoping for the best.”

The opportunity to represent Pakistan is one that he will always cherish but given the history of being in-and-out of the team at the whim of selectors and perceived failures, Sohail Tanvir has no option but to take the disappointments of the past on the chin as he clearly understands that such periods are expected in any players’ career as he states “All one can do is give it their best shot whenever the chances are given but just like other players, I have good and bad games and my performances can suffer once in a while but what I need to do now is to concentrate and avail the chance given to me again. Obviously knowing that you can be dropped for one bad performance whilst others in a similar position can continue playing is distressing but once again, I will say that I am determined to do well in whatever chances I am given to play for Pakistan.”

With an excellent outing at the 2016 version of the Caribbean Premier League in his bag, Sohail does feel confident about the upcoming challenge if he is selected to play against England in the one-off Twenty20 game in Manchester. In his own words “Our ODI team has not performed to expectations in the recent past but our Twenty20 team does have a decent track record and the right components to make it to the top. All that is needed for us is to deliver winning performances and I am confident that with close to ten years of international experience and almost two hundred and eighty Twenty20 games under my belt, I am in a good position to play my part and bring us back on the winning track in this format.”

Pakistan’s ODI team has come under a lot of criticism in the recent past due to its failures in the series against England with well-known experts such as Nasser Hussain pointing to the inability of the team to adapt to the modern style of the 50-over game. Sohail Tanvir does feel that Pakistan need to move on with the times but whatever style of game is adopted, the fundamentals of the game for the bowlers will always remain constant.

“The game may have moved on but the basics will never change. This may not be true in Twenty20 games where the batsmen will take their chances even against good bowling but is definitely a fact for ODI games. Any bowler should be able to bowl Yorkers and have variety in their bowling if they are to succeed in the modern day game. What has changed is that the pitches are flatter in nature regardless of where you play in the world and rules are in favour of batsmen, so bowling analysis of bowlers need to be looked at differently. For example, a bowler ending up with fifty runs in ten overs would have been criticized in the past but in today’s game, these may well be good figures. The mindset for 50-over games needs to change as batsmen for the teams now need to be able to score those big runs instead of expecting their bowlers to be able to contain opposing sides to low totals.”

Participation in the ongoing National Twenty20 Cup will undoubtedly help Sohail in his preparation for the upcoming challenge in England in which he hopes to put in a performance which could go a long way in establishing him in the national team for a longer period of time, “I am bowling with good rhythm in this tournament and have put in some decent performances which really is a continuation of how I bowled in the Caribbean, and I do hope to carry the same form into international cricket for Pakistan”, he concluded.
 
Don't recall us being anywhere near the top of the rankings or making it into the knockout stages of the WT20, so not quite sure what decent track record he's talking about
 
Sohail Tanvir feels Pakistan's selection policy takes a mental toll on players

Pakistan fast bowler Sohail Tanvir, who has been recalled to the national squad for the upcoming one-off T20 match against England, has said that being in and out of the team on a regular basis can adversely impact mental health of a player but added that he is determined to put his best foot forward in the next game.

"I am obviously overjoyed with another opportunity to represent Pakistan but I do wonder why I was side-lined in the first place. Being in and out of the team does take a mental toll on any player and it becomes that more difficult to establish a place for oneself in the team if this happens a lot," Sohail was quoted as saying by Pakpassion.net.

Despite being the fourth-highest wicket-taker in the Twenty20 format for Pakistan behind Shahid Afridi, Saeed Ajmal and Umar Gul, Sohail was later sidelined for tours of New Zealand, the Asia Cup and the World T20 in India.

However, the 31-year-old paceman, who played his last T20 international in November, insisted that his unwavering dedication and commitment towards the sport paved his way for his selection in the national side.

"But thankfully I have never given up and continued working hard as I did in the Caribbean Premier League where I was the second highest wicket-taker with twenty wickets and had the best economy rate in the tournament as well. As always, it is an honour to serve Pakistan and I am looking forward to the game in England and hoping for the best," said Sohail.

While Pakistan are languishing at ninth spot in the ODI ranking, the T20I ranking also doesn't provide any relief for the Asian nation as they are precariously placed seventh.

After enduring a humiliating ODI series defeat against England, the one-off T20 match on Wednesday represents a final opportunity for Pakistan to repair their reputation in the shorter formats of the game.

http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/repor...policy-takes-a-mental-toll-on-players-2251694
 
Sohail Tanvir: Being in and out of the team does take a mental toll on any player

After the highs of a superlative performance by Pakistan in Test matches in England, the attention has now shifted to the limited-over formats, where the news for the visitors is not good so far. The ODI series has been lost but more than the margin of loss is the manner of capitulation which has dismayed the Pakistan followers the most. The last game of the tour, a T20I match at Old Trafford thus represents a final opportunity for Pakistan to repair their reputation in the shorter formats of the game. Whilst the ODI ranking has continued on a downward spiral, Pakistan’s T20I ranking has also not fared any better as they are precariously perched at the seventh position and it is due to this that the selection of the Twenty20 squad for the one-off game in England on the 7th of September has generated a lot of interest.

Amongst the players named in the squad for this game is the 31-year-old all-rounder Sohail Tanvir. Having played two Test matches and 62 ODIs with varying degrees of success, the left-hander’s participation in the national team has been largely limited to the Twenty20 format where he has taken 47 wickets in 50 matches.

In exclusive remarks to PakPassion.net, Sohail Tanvir spoke about his feelings on being recalled once again to the national squad, his performance so far in the National Twenty20 Cup, the qualities needed for bowlers to succeed in the limited-overs format and looked forward to the upcoming game against England.


Sohail last played for the national team in a Twenty20 game against England in the November of 2015. Despite being the fourth-highest wicket-taker in the Twenty20 format for Pakistan behind Shahid Afridi, Saeed Ajmal and Umar Gul, he was later discarded for tours of New Zealand, the Asia Cup and the World T20 in India.

On being selected for the One-off T20I against England: “I am obviously overjoyed with another opportunity to represent Pakistan but I do wonder why I was side-lined in the first place. Being in and out of the team does take a mental toll on any player and it becomes that more difficult to establish a place for oneself in the team if this happens a lot. But thankfully I have never given up and continued working hard as I did in the Caribbean Premier League where I was the second highest wicket-taker with twenty wickets and had the best economy rate in the tournament as well. As always, it is an honour to serve Pakistan and I am looking forward to the game in England and hoping for the best.”

On his inconsistency: “All one can do is give it their best shot whenever the chances are given but just like other players, I have good and bad games and my performances can suffer once in a while but what I need to do now is to concentrate and avail the chance given to me again. Obviously knowing that you can be dropped for one bad performance whilst others in a similar position can continue playing is distressing but once again, I will say that I am determined to do well in whatever chances I am given to play for Pakistan.”

On the challenge of playing in England in T20Is: “Our ODI team has not performed to expectations in the recent past but our Twenty20 team does have a decent track record and the right components to make it to the top. All that is needed for us is to deliver winning performances and I am confident that with close to ten years of international experience and almost two hundred and eighty Twenty20 games under my belt, I am in a good position to play my part and bring us back on the winning track in this format.”

Speaking on Pakistan’s consistency with their gameplay: “The game may have moved on but the basics will never change. This may not be true in Twenty20 games where the batsmen will take their chances even against good bowling but is definitely a fact for ODI games. Any bowler should be able to bowl Yorkers and have variety in their bowling if they are to succeed in the modern day game. What has changed is that the pitches are flatter in nature regardless of where you play in the world and rules are in favour of batsmen, so bowling analysis of bowlers need to be looked at differently. For example, a bowler ending up with fifty runs in ten overs would have been criticized in the past but in today’s game, these may well be good figures. The mindset for 50-over games needs to change as batsmen for the teams now need to be able to score those big runs instead of expecting their bowlers to be able to contain opposing sides to low totals.”

On his confidence to perform against England in T20Is: “I am bowling with good rhythm in this tournament and have put in some decent performances which really is a continuation of how I bowled in the Caribbean, and I do hope to carry the same form into international cricket for Pakistan”, he concluded.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/artic...-does-take-a-mental-toll-on-any-player-519779
 
surplus to requirements

can't bat or field, and when his bowling is off then he's another Pak frequent flyer passenger racking up points on the Pak team gravy train ala malik, hafeez, gul etc
 
Being in and out of the team can cause you to stop playing for the team and start playing for yourself.
 
Maybe a self assessment is in order and do advise us fans after that 'what have you done recently to improve the fitness, fielding, batting, catching etc', that you deserve to be a constant member of the team to begin with?

Case in point: The leg side hoicks, there is roughly 50% ground on the off side as well, where all other players do play some shots as well; how about trying that from time to time? How about just hitting straight, is that a possibility?
 
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Single handedly lost that winnable match against Australia where he couldn't deal with the pressure of 2 runs from 6 balls. Please keep him away from the team.
 
Single handedly lost that winnable match against Australia where he couldn't deal with the pressure of 2 runs from 6 balls. Please keep him away from the team.



Add to that couple of domestic T20 championship final matches as well where he completely fluffed it!
 
Really don't know he manages to come back every few months. The guy can't bowl, bat or field. Should never be selected.
 
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Really don't know he manages to come back every few months. The guy can't bowl, bat or field. Should never be selected.

because he goes to forgein leagues and bullies the one only kind of players he can. Forgein domestic players who have never seen his action. Even that trick has stopped working in england, south africa and Australia, but in CPL he still can do a bit.

Internationally he was worked out within a year of his debut
 
Watching Sohail Tanvir's misplaced shots also has a mental toll on me but I aint complaining.
 
For the sake of our sanity and yours - stay out of the team please because you bring NOTHING and are keeping out the true hard-working talented youth of Pak cricket, and yes I'm sure it's out there!!
 
Good work by Sohail Tanvir. Excellent so far.
 
A fine T20 player as usual. Just like U. Akmal also got dropped on the basis of ODI performances or other baseless assumptions.
 
Dunno why but no matter how much he performs I'll never be convinced by him

Just cannot trust him to come up big in big matches and pressure situations

He is good at rolling over mediocrity but always comes up shot against quality batting
 
Dunno why but no matter how much he performs I'll never be convinced by him

Just cannot trust him to come up big in big matches and pressure situations

He is good at rolling over mediocrity but always comes up shot against quality batting

agree, he always seems like a liability
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sohail Tanvir's brilliant bowling figures today:<br>4-13-3, including 17 dot balls <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvsWI?src=hash">#PakvsWI</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/779761190708936704">September 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Dunno why but no matter how much he performs I'll never be convinced by him

Just cannot trust him to come up big in big matches and pressure situations

He is good at rolling over mediocrity but always comes up shot against quality batting

That makes no sense.
 
One of the worst players we have ever had. These T20 league performances mean nothing. We all know how pathetic he has been in international cricket. Can't bowl, can't buy a run, even school kids are better fielders than him.
 
One of the worst players we have ever had. These T20 league performances mean nothing. We all know how pathetic he has been in international cricket. Can't bowl, can't buy a run, even school kids are better fielders than him.

Did ok in the last IT20 in Manchester.

He isnt worse or better than many others in the team atm
 
Did ok in the last IT20 in Manchester.

He isnt worse or better than many others in the team atm
His figures were 4-0-35-0 in that match. What is so special about it?
It's high time we stop backing TTFs like him if we really want to improve our LOI rankings. Players like him won't take you anywhere.
 
His figures were 4-0-35-0 in that match. What is so special about it?
It's high time we stop backing TTFs like him if we really want to improve our LOI rankings. Players like him won't take you anywhere.

And Amir's figures were?
 
Since, Aamir's return:

Aamir: 13 matches, 11 wickets, 32 average, 7 economy
Tanvir: 12 matches, 16 wickets, 21 average, 7 economy

And Amir's figures were?

Do you guys seriously believe that Tanvir is better than Amir??? If yes, then probably even God can't save our LOI team. This is Amir's first year in cricket after the ban and he has still bowled quite well. While the so-called All-Rounder Tanvir hasn't done anything of note in almost a decade of international cricket.

Moreover, this thread is about Tanvir, so it's better to concentrate on his abilities which are non- existent.
 
Do you guys seriously believe that Tanvir is better than Amir??? If yes, then probably even God can't save our LOI team. This is Amir's first year in cricket after the ban and he has still bowled quite well. While the so-called All-Rounder Tanvir hasn't done anything of note in almost a decade of international cricket.

Moreover, this thread is about Tanvir, so it's better to concentrate on his abilities which are non- existent.

Tanvir is not a better bowler than Aamir and I do not even like him but MenInG was right. On merit, Tanvir deserves to be on the team because others have done worse.
 
Do you guys seriously believe that Tanvir is better than Amir??? If yes, then probably even God can't save our LOI team. This is Amir's first year in cricket after the ban and he has still bowled quite well. While the so-called All-Rounder Tanvir hasn't done anything of note in almost a decade of international cricket.

Moreover, this thread is about Tanvir, so it's better to concentrate on his abilities which are non- existent.

You pointed out Tanvir's performance in the previous IT20. I merely brought up the fact that he is no worse atm.
 
Atleast you are being in and out of the team on a consistent basis. There are others like Sadaf Hussain who never get the chance to play for their national team. Or some others like fawad alam, hammad azam who are discarded after being given limited opportunities. :inti
 
Another excellent performance by him yesterday
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Leading Pak wicket-takers in T20 cricket:<br>Yasir Arafat 281<br>Saeed Ajmal 260<br>Azhar Mahmood 258<br>Shahid Afridi 249<br>Sohail Tanvir 246<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/800018872057241600">November 19, 2016</a></blockquote>
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BTW today

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BPL2016?src=hash">#BPL2016</a> Playing for Comilla Victorians, Sohail Tanvir took 4/18 in 3 overs to lead his side to a 32 run victory over Rajshahi Kings</p>— PakPassion.net (@PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/PakPassion/status/800016894443094017">November 19, 2016</a></blockquote>
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