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Ben Stokes' current batting form, a MAJOR problem for Pakistani bowlers!

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Im very much concerned, i think he will take the game away from our bowlers in every match. We may not have the answer to deal with his class and ability with the bowlers we have. I am hopeful for our boys to step up and deal with the rest, but Stokes makes batting look very easy in these conditions at the moment, even though the ball is seaming and spinning perfectly for bowling conditions.

Major, major problem for Waqar Younis and Mushtaq Ahmed, this man will singlehandedly lead England to 3-0!
 
Im very much concerned, i think he will take the game away from our bowlers in every match. We may not have the answer to deal with his class and ability with the bowlers we have. I am hopeful for our boys to step up and deal with the rest, but Stokes makes batting look very easy in these conditions at the moment, even though the ball is seaming and spinning perfectly for bowling conditions.

Major, major problem for Waqar Younis and Mushtaq Ahmed, this man will singlehandedly lead England to 3-0!

There was all this talk about how we are man to man better than the English. This maybe true on paper for some players but we don't possess anyone like Stokes.

Although he's not fired yet, we don't have anyone of the quality of Buttler either. Broad doesn't like Pakistan and he's already angry and fired up due to being dropped. Now he's taking some snorting wickets.
 
It only takes one good cherry to dismiss anyone, and that's the mindset of any top ranked bowler.
 
Stokes is a kind of player that can take the game away from any team in any condition by bat, bowl or even in field.

He has done it vs Australia, South Africa and New Zealand (WC) and can do it against any opposition.

His biggest challenge though will be vs India in India.
 
Im very much concerned, i think he will take the game away from our bowlers in every match. We may not have the answer to deal with his class and ability with the bowlers we have. I am hopeful for our boys to step up and deal with the rest, but Stokes makes batting look very easy in these conditions at the moment, even though the ball is seaming and spinning perfectly for bowling conditions.

Major, major problem for Waqar Younis and Mushtaq Ahmed, this man will singlehandedly lead England to 3-0!

Naseem vs stokes will be good battle espically if he tries to take on naseem with the short hall
 
There was all this talk about how we are man to man better than the English. This maybe true on paper for some players but we don't possess anyone like Stokes.

Although he's not fired yet, we don't have anyone of the quality of Buttler either. Broad doesn't like Pakistan and he's already angry and fired up due to being dropped. Now he's taking some snorting wickets.

Buttler is not that good in tests.
 
Off-spinner against him would be useful.

Someone like Bilal Asif, Hafeez etc.
 
Naseem vs stokes will be good battle espically if he tries to take on naseem with the short hall

He doesn’t seem to have a weakness and I don’t think Naseem has matured enough to be considered a worthy opponent to this current form of Stokes.

It will have to be mental mind games and Pakistani players on a whole seem too nice to oppositions. Stokes will bully them into submission with the bat.
 
Off-spinner against him would be useful.

Someone like Bilal Asif, Hafeez etc.

I did think about this, but his reverse sweep is highly immaculate and he plays it at the right time to pick up a much needed 4 and continue the batting momentum.

I have a bad feeling for Yasir Shah of Shadab Khan, he may enjoy them bowling into his arc
 
He doesn’t seem to have a weakness and I don’t think Naseem has matured enough to be considered a worthy opponent to this current form of Stokes.

It will have to be mental mind games and Pakistani players on a whole seem too nice to oppositions. Stokes will bully them into submission with the bat.

At the moment he doesnt and I fink he will find success against stokes.

Naseem has got the aggression I have seen on a few occasions but time will tell
 
I did think about this, but his reverse sweep is highly immaculate and he plays it at the right time to pick up a much needed 4 and continue the batting momentum.

I have a bad feeling for Yasir Shah of Shadab Khan, he may enjoy them bowling into his arc

Shadab was able to get him though in the first test of 2018 tour which Pak won. Not sure if thats gonna happen again but anything is possible in cricket.
 
Shadab was able to get him though in the first test of 2018 tour which Pak won. Not sure if thats gonna happen again but anything is possible in cricket.

This current Ben Stokes will smash Shadab for 6x6. His confidence is currently on Alexander the Great’s level with the bat.

My concern is mainly due to how Pakistan had no answer for a batsman like David Warner, whereas Stokes looks like another level, that too in good bowling conditions.
 
This current Ben Stokes will smash Shadab for 6x6. His confidence is currently on Alexander the Great’s level with the bat.

My concern is mainly due to how Pakistan had no answer for a batsman like David Warner, whereas Stokes looks like another level, that too in good bowling conditions.

Yes Stokes is in a different mode and has matured a lot as a batsman in the last two years.

Regarding struggling against David Warner while our test pace attack is still inexperienced but now Shaheen and Naseem now have few more matches under their belt then they had in Aus. So we can only hope they can execute better in Eng.
 
My money is on either Sibley or Crawley. It's always the unknown/unlikely commodities that perform against Pakistan. :)
 
Pak bowlers way too overrated here.. the 3 shahs yasir shaheen naseem bowl you at least 2 bad balls n over. Theyr not relentless enough.

Still remember steve smith waiting days to bat as warner & Labu we’re making hay!!
 
Pak bowlers way too overrated here.. the 3 shahs yasir shaheen naseem bowl you at least 2 bad balls n over. Theyr not relentless enough.

Still remember steve smith waiting days to bat as warner & Labu we’re making hay!!

We have one of the worst attacks in the world but people act as if we ooze world class bowlers. Not only Stokes, one can even expect the out of form Buttler to make hay against our awful, indisciplined bowlers.

Only Bangladesh and Sri Lanka have worse bowling attacks than Pakistan at the moment.
 
very OTT typical responses, this third class team and bowlers are yet to lose a series to mighty poms in last ten years in their own den. We shall see soon enough. English batting is good but not that good and our bowling maybe not legendary but its not that bad as posters making it out. if we get regular 300 scores in batting this series could go in favor of any team.
 
With this talent and form, Stokes is a challenge and a nightmare for every team right now.

The guys a match winner most importantly.

Everything he does, takes England closer to victory.

There are so many players who also score a lot but you never fear them because they are not match winners.

Stokes is clutch player and his counter attacking knocks in test cricket can shift momentum of any test match within a session.

Pakistan however has historically been very successful at containing such players though pure bowling skill which other nations don't possess. Remains to be seen if this crop of Pakistani bowlers can tame Stokes with talent.

Pace isn't a problem for Stokes at all. He relishes pace
 
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This current Ben Stokes will smash Shadab for 6x6. His confidence is currently on Alexander the Great’s level with the bat.

My concern is mainly due to how Pakistan had no answer for a batsman like David Warner, whereas Stokes looks like another level, that too in good bowling conditions.

Did you know Warner has almost 20 test hundreds, also you and a few others here conclude everything to the extreme
 
Will his bowling pose problems for Pakistan's batting as well? :inti

should be fun watching fawad alam if selected against the likes of wood & stokes ...
i think shan masood if he can get some runs under him may play some what better than any pak top order against short balling barrage by stokes & co
 
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should be fun watching fawad alam if selected against the likes of wood & stokes ...
i think shan masood if he can get some runs under him may play some what better than any pak top order against short balling barrage by stokes & co

Shan, babar and maybe rizwan play the short ball well. The rest - not so much .
 
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We respect him, but don't fear him.
Shaheen Abbas and Nadeem are plenty good enough. We need to get the rest of the bowling line up correct.
 
He is gonna get some at least 20 unplayable deliveries every innings. If he manages them we are in danger although I think gonna fail in at least 4 of those 6 innings (with bat).

I am not worried about his 100s or 5-fers but about his ability to deliver on such crunch situations. If he doesn't deliver which he most probably is going to, we should be able to win more games.
 
Most probably we will tame stokes. But expect some relatively unknown Sibley or even Bess to trouble us a lot. :misbah3
 
Stokes is brilliant not just with the bat but also with the ball. He is also a fantastic fielder.

Definitely the biggest challenge for Team Pakistan.
 
Most probably we will tame stokes. But expect some relatively unknown Sibley or even Bess to trouble us a lot. :misbah3

A person like Babar plays upcoming spinners really well. But Sibley does look surprisingly solid.
 
Faheem Ashraf should be Pakistan's counter-punch. Stokes doesn't stand a chance
 
For Pakistan's sake he will hopefully be rested.
 
[MENTION=150451]Shazzam[/MENTION] only 300, why not 5 or even 600. Maybe in EA cricket because in the real world unless pak fielders drop him record times or pitch is flatest the world has ever seen this ain't happening.
 
First of all this is not T20 or ODI where a single in form batsman can take the game away that easily. Ben stokes can quick fire 50 or 100 but it would make little difference to the outcome. All it takes is one good delivery.

For the first time in years, we have a very good pace attack. No more 3 left arm medium pacers of the same kind. We actually have three totally different pacers who can create all sorts of issues to any batsmen.

I'm more concerned about our batting. How are we going to handle their pace attack :D
 
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