Best of Quaid-e-Azam Trophy 2017/18: Saad Ali (957 runs at 68.36) and Aizaz Cheema (60 wkts at 9.62)

[Abdullah719]

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[Abdullah719]

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[hadi123]

Good season for Saad Ali. He should be in the Test side within the next 1-2 years. Bad news is not really any young bowlers topping the wicket charts. Likes of Cheema and Sohail Khan are quite old.

 

[Pakprideuk]

Aizaz Cheema, over the summer played for Banbury in the HCPCL. I also play in that league. Its a very good league with some very good players but none of the players are currently county standard. He didn't exactly set the world alight which probably illustrates how poor the pakistani domestic structure/system is presently.

 

[Junaids]

Time to promote Amad Butt.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Get Saad Ali in the Test Team. Deserves the chance of Babar and Shan Masood, even Asad Shafiq.

Liked what Amad Butt brings to the table. Is unflustered with the opposition or the situation. Temperamentally a lot better than Amir Yamin. Needs polishing on his skills though.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Well from the looks of it Saad Ali has definitely deserved a chance at test cricket. Could see him in the team soon

 

[SARJ_BD]

Where does Saad Ali play? Is he a opener?
Whoever followed the tournament pls answer what went wrong with Umar Amin? He performed well last year which earned him a slot in t20 squad. Can we conclude that Umar Amin is just another inconsistent player?
If possible, pls share same feedback on Sami Aslam as well.

 

[kingusama92]

Where does Saad Ali play? Is he a opener?
Whoever followed the tournament pls answer what went wrong with Umar Amin? He performed well last year which earned him a slot in t20 squad. Can we conclude that Umar Amin is just another inconsistent player?
If possible, pls share same feedback on Sami Aslam as well.

Middle order (#4 usually).

 

[as-95]

Azhar Ali needs to take back the opening slot in tests so we can bin Shan Masood and therefore open up a middle order slot for the likes of Saad Ali. Our middle order talent is far more stocked than the opening slot so Azhar Ali needs to take responsibility and start opening again.

Ideal test batting lineup

Azhar
Sami Aslam/(anyone except hafeez and shan)
Babar
Haris Sohail
Saad Ali
Asad Shafiq
Sarfraz Ahmad
Amir
Hasan Ali
Open bowling slot
Yasir Shah

4 specilist bowlers along with Haris as a part timer should be sufficient for us against most sides.

 

[Monsee]

Azhar Ali needs to take back the opening slot in tests so we can bin Shan Masood and therefore open up a middle order slot for the likes of Saad Ali. Our middle order talent is far more stocked than the opening slot so Azhar Ali needs to take responsibility and start opening again.

Ideal test batting lineup

Azhar
Sami Aslam/(anyone except hafeez and shan)
Babar
Haris Sohail
Saad Ali
Asad Shafiq
Sarfraz Ahmad
Amir
Hasan Ali
Open bowling slot
Yasir Shah

4 specilist bowlers along with Haris as a part timer should be sufficient for us against most sides.

So Amir is a test specialist and yet Mohammed Abbass gets dropped, that will def work?

Sami Aslam needs a kick up the back side, if he is averaging in the 30's in domestic, what is he gonna do in the Nat'l team then?

 

[LordJames]

Azhar Ali needs to take back the opening slot in tests so we can bin Shan Masood and therefore open up a middle order slot for the likes of Saad Ali. Our middle order talent is far more stocked than the opening slot so Azhar Ali needs to take responsibility and start opening again.

Ideal test batting lineup

Azhar
Sami Aslam/(anyone except hafeez and shan)
Babar
Haris Sohail
Saad Ali
Asad Shafiq
Sarfraz Ahmad
Amir
Hasan Ali
Open bowling slot
Yasir Shah

4 specilist bowlers along with Haris as a part timer should be sufficient for us against most sides.

What has Abbas done to get dropped?

 

[srh]

Good season for Saad Ali. He should be in the Test side within the next 1-2 years. Bad news is not really any young bowlers topping the wicket charts. Likes of Cheema and Sohail Khan are quite old.

Mir Hamza with 42 and Amad Butt with 39 wickets are young bowlers who have not debut yet at international stage.

 

[as-95]

So Amir is a test specialist and yet Mohammed Abbass gets dropped, that will def work?

Sami Aslam needs a kick up the back side, if he is averaging in the 30's in domestic, what is he gonna do in the Nat'l team then?

Sami has still shown the capability to score big on numerous occasions and is still very young. Thats why I stated that ge can be replaced by anyone other than Hafeez (useless without allround skills) and Shan. My main point is that Azhar needs to open so that a middle order batting slot is open.

I didn't say Abbas is dropped. I said that it is an open slot and one can deduce that it can be taken by Abbas or other less established bowlers.

Abbas has performed well, but he has not cemented his place in the lineup yet.

 

[prop558]

Sami has still shown the capability to score big on numerous occasions and is still very young. Thats why I stated that ge can be replaced by anyone other than Hafeez (useless without allround skills) and Shan. My main point is that Azhar needs to open so that a middle order batting slot is open.

I didn't say Abbas is dropped. I said that it is an open slot and one can deduce that it can be taken by Abbas or other less established bowlers.

Abbas has performed well, but he has not cemented his place in the lineup yet.

Stop advocating Sami Aslam, he got 25 test innings and didn't even score a single century. Remember that most of these test matches were against Weakest Test teams like Srilanka, Zimbabwe & West Indies....

Don't you think that 25 innings (as an opener) is good enough to perform ?

His strike rate is 39.11
His average is 31.58

World has gone too far in cricket, but still you are advocating for such a pathetic opener whose average is such low after 25 test innings, thats too against lowest ranking teams.

I think Sami, Shan Masood & Babar Azam should be thrown out of test format, as they got enough chance in Tests and Babar being an excellent ODI batsman should concentrate on LO formats, until unless he gets mature enough to play tests.

Test team should be like :

01 - Khuram Manzoor
02 - Azhar Ali
03 - Saad Ali
04 - Fawad Alam
05 - Asad Shafiq
06 - Usman Salahuddin / Haris Sohail
07 - Sarfraz Ahmed
08 - Muhammad Amir
09 - Muhammad Abbas
10 - Yasir Shah
11 - Samiullah Niazi / Aizaz Cheema / Tabish Khan (any one)

 

[Abdullah719]

Stop advocating Sami Aslam, he got 25 test innings and didn't even score a single century. Remember that most of these test matches were against Weakest Test teams like Srilanka, Zimbabwe & West Indies....

Don't you think that 25 innings (as an opener) is good enough to perform ?

His strike rate is 39.11
His average is 31.58

World has gone too far in cricket, but still you are advocating for such a pathetic opener whose average is such low after 25 test innings, thats too against lowest ranking teams.

Test team should be like :

01 - Khuram Manzoor

22-year-old Sami Aslam with an average of 31 after 13 Tests is rubbish.

But 31-year-old Khurram Manzoor with an average of 28 after 16 Tests is an ATG in the making.

 

[prop558]

22-year-old Sami Aslam with an average of 31 after 13 Tests is rubbish.

But 31-year-old Khurram Manzoor with an average of 28 after 16 Tests is an ATG in the making.

So what, if Khuram fails, just drop him. Simple. I'm not in favor of giving chance of more than 5 test matches to any player. Nor khuram is my phuppi ka larka, nor Sami Aslam.

Sami Aslam's selection was fair and justified, but after the non-stop failure in 13 test matches, his further selections are totally unjustified / illogical

In modern day cricket, Which team selects such opener, he fails in 13 tests, without making even a single century. Tell me brother

Most of those 13 test matches were against weak teams like Srilanka Bangladesh & West Indies.

See yourself :

2 against Banladesh
2 against Srilanka
3 against West Indies

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2 against Australia
2 against England
2 against New Zealand

 

[Abdullah719]

So what, if Khuram fails, just drop him. Simple. I'm not in favor of giving chance of more than 5 test matches to any player. Nor khuram is my phuppi ka larka, nor Sami Aslam.

Sami Aslam's selection was fair and justified, but after the non-stop failure in 13 test matches, his further selections are totally unjustified / illogical

In modern day cricket, Which team selects such opener, he fails in 13 tests, without making even a single century. Tell me brother

Most of those 13 test matches were against weak teams like Srilanka Bangladesh & West Indies.

See yourself :

2 against Banladesh
2 against Srilanka
3 against West Indies

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2 against Australia
2 against England
2 against New Zealand

Why are you advocating for Khurram Manzoor's selection?

 

[giri26]

It is strange that a 38 year old fast bowler is averaging 9.6 in domestic cricket. Either the pitches are horrible or the batting standards are really low. And again a fast bowler at that age to make a comeback in test cricket is not a wise move. He will not last for more than a year in test cricket as most of the wickets these days are flat and require a bowler to bowl a lot of overs.

 

[Rana]

What is this poor batting standard??

Around 30 bowlers averaging below 20. How is it that easy to take wickets? Pretty obvious that the batsman in Pakistan are pure garbage!

 

[Deewana Mastana]

On one hand we have Salman Butt moaning about how tough the domestic cricket is in the country and then on the other hand we have the likes of 35-36 year old Cheema taking 60 wickets at under 10.

 

[Abdullah719]

What is this poor batting standard??

Around 30 bowlers averaging below 20. How is it that easy to take wickets? Pretty obvious that the batsman in Pakistan are pure garbage!

Well these pitches make it impossible for batsmen to really come up to international standard.

Babar is struggling in the Test team because he can't build a long innings, but there is virtually no chance that playing tons of FC cricket will teach him that, simply because the vast majority of pitches don't allow that to happen.

 

[Monsee]

Sami Aslam to me is a puzzle, on one hand he is slower than Misbah, that says something, and then he plays domestic T20's and scores pretty decently at good SR as well...either he is a mental midget or a freak or both. We should invest in a young operener who plays dead straight in the first 10-12 overs without avoiding strike rotation. Otherwise, if we push Azhar up to open and pair with someone like Sami, we are bound to have batting collapses each time when opposition bowlers see both the openers getting stuck and not scoring at all. This also puts extra pressure on rest of the batsmen coming in later as well!

Anyone advocating a return for likes of Samiullah or Cheema is nuts (without any disrespect intended)...such old age bowlers get found out in the first few overs when they can't buy a wicket on a proper test pitch and then get injured due to exerting extra pressure on their unfit frames!

I think Abbass and Hassan is the way to go; Amir should be monitored and if he does not start taking 2-3 wickets in each innings, he should be kicked out soon! We also need to develop Fahim and Rumman and bring them in at the expense of another unfit bowler or non-performing one.

Yasir should have been told to lose weight or else but he seems to be getting a free pass due to being a wicket taker although lately he seems to be going the Kaneria route i.e. always giving away 100+ before bagging 3-5 wickets! Shadab should be helped in joining a county or another 4-5 day league (SA/Australia etc.) so he can start getting experience of the longer version and develop his game further more.

I think for now we should give Asghar a test cap soon and give him a few chances to see what he can bring to the table. IMO Yasir is not gonna get any better from here on unless he improves his physical fitness and develops a proper googly that he can bowl all the time, not just 2-3 times in a given innings only.

 

[srh]

What is this poor batting standard??

Around 30 bowlers averaging below 20. How is it that easy to take wickets? Pretty obvious that the batsman in Pakistan are pure garbage!

A batsman still averaged almost 70.