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Bumrah is a sensational bowler. If he can maintain this level of form, he will go down as the second greatest Asian fast bowler of all-time after Wasim Akram.
Peak imran
Peak wasim
Peak waqar
We're unblievable. I believe these three have strong arguments for the three greatest in history.
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[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Wkts [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]Econ [/td][td]SR [/td][td]5W [/td][td]10W [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JJ Bumrah (INDIA) [/td][td]2018-2022 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]98 [/td][td]23.95 [/td][td]2.67 [/td][td]53.7 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wasim Akram (PAK) [/td][td]1985-2001 [/td][td]32 [/td][td]146 [/td][td]24.11 [/td][td]2.59 [/td][td]55.7 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]3 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Asif (PAK) [/td][td]2005-2010 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]79 [/td][td]25.02 [/td][td]3.02 [/td][td]49.5 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]M Muralidaran (SL) [/td][td]1995-2007 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]120 [/td][td]26.5 [/td][td]2.63 [/td][td]60.4 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]5 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Imran Khan (PAK) [/td][td]1971-1990 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]109 [/td][td]26.55 [/td][td]2.39 [/td][td]66.4 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mushtaq Ahmed (PAK) [/td][td]1990-2001 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]84 [/td][td]28.1 [/td][td]2.74 [/td][td]61.3 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Waqar Younis (PAK) [/td][td]1990-2003 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]113 [/td][td]29.15 [/td][td]3.23 [/td][td]54 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]EAS Prasanna (INDIA) [/td][td]1967-1978 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]78 [/td][td]29.94 [/td][td]2.42 [/td][td]73.9 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Amir (PAK) [/td][td]2009-2019 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]88 [/td][td]30.36 [/td][td]3.02 [/td][td]60.2 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]B Bedi (INDIA) [/td][td]1967-1979 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]90 [/td][td]30.98 [/td][td]2.36 [/td][td]78.6 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]B Chandrasekhar (INDIA) [/td][td]1967-1979 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]71 [/td][td]31.33 [/td][td]2.67 [/td][td]70.3 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Z Khan (INDIA) [/td][td]2001-2014 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]119 [/td][td]31.47 [/td][td]3.31 [/td][td]56.9 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Sarfraz Nawaz (PAK) [/td][td]1972-1984 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]80 [/td][td]31.65 [/td][td]2.42 [/td][td]78.4 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammed Shami (INDIA) [/td][td]2013-2022 [/td][td]33 [/td][td]117 [/td][td]32.07 [/td][td]3.42 [/td][td]56.1 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]N Kapil Dev (INDIA) [/td][td]1979-1994 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]117 [/td][td]33.07 [/td][td]2.6 [/td][td]76.1 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Umar Gul (PAK) [/td][td]2003-2013 [/td][td]18 [/td][td]65 [/td][td]33.84 [/td][td]3.51 [/td][td]57.7 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]J Srinath (INDIA) [/td][td]1991-2001 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]89 [/td][td]34.31 [/td][td]2.96 [/td][td]69.4 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]I Sharma (INDIA) [/td][td]2008-2021 [/td][td]41 [/td][td]130 [/td][td]36.86 [/td][td]3.29 [/td][td]67.2 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]A Kumble (INDIA) [/td][td]1990-2008 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]141 [/td][td]37.04 [/td][td]2.76 [/td][td]80.2 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WPUJC Vaas (SL) [/td][td]1995-2007 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]73 [/td][td]37.56 [/td][td]2.94 [/td][td]76.4 [/td][td]5 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Danish Kaneria (PAK) [/td][td]2003-2010 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]75 [/td][td]38.5 [/td][td]3.13 [/td][td]73.6 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]R Ashwin (INDIA) [/td][td]2011-2022 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]70 [/td][td]39.34 [/td][td]2.83 [/td][td]83.3 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RAS Lakmal (SL) [/td][td]2011-2019 [/td][td]18 [/td][td]51 [/td][td]39.49 [/td][td]3.27 [/td][td]72.2 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Harbhajan Singh (INDIA) [/td][td]1998-2011 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]62 [/td][td]39.93 [/td][td]3.09 [/td][td]77.3 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]HMRKB Herath (SL) [/td][td]2005-2017 [/td][td]21 [/td][td]57 [/td][td]42.75 [/td][td]2.93 [/td][td]87.4 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
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This is why Wasim is the best bowler from Asia. And between the W's, I always rate Wasim higher. Wasim was better in India.
Hopefully, Bumrah can sustain this level of performance for a few more years. Quality performer.
Imran was insanely good. Bottle cap or notWasim was slightly better overseas, but Imran had the greatest peak for any fast bowler, while Wasim no great peak - never even no. 1 ICC rated
Wasim was slightly better overseas, but Imran had the greatest peak for any fast bowler, while Wasim no great peak - never even no. 1 ICC rated
Not Waqar. Other 2 yes. Also with crappy fielders too. No good wicket keeper barring Latif.
Wasim did not peak like Imran or Waqar but he was just a very consistent bowler throughout. I dont believe in rating bowlers on their peaks alone. You have to see the careers in their entirety.
Away from Pakistan/UAE, against other top 8 sides, Wasim is the best Asian fast bowler.
Waqar was better while playing these top sides at home and Imran was a monster on Pakistani pitches.
Wasim did not peak like Imran or Waqar but he was just a very consistent bowler throughout. I dont believe in rating bowlers on their peaks alone. You have to see the careers in their entirety.
Away from Pakistan/UAE, against other top 8 sides, Wasim is the best Asian fast bowler.
Waqar was better while playing these top sides at home and Imran was a monster on Pakistani pitches.
Lol. Waqar before his stress fracture got to 200 test wickets at a average under 20, and a strike rate under 40! Was insanely good
Arguably Wasim Akram was most skillful bowler of all time , he should be top 3 bowler of all time, his record in test would have been better but because of diabetes it was difficult to bowl long spells
From 1977 to 1983 Imran was monster regardless of any pitch/ venue.
Diabetes affected stamina that much? He was a true great regardless.
Such a shame. Was it type2? Perhaps it was his diet? I remember there was a time when he looked very fit In early 90s. Chiselled jawline and lean. Burly shoulders. Maybe post 95 he had diabetes. What a shame. One of the best ever to play the game.Yes it does , 100% great , in my opinion he is all time top 3 bowler .
Such a shame. Was it type2? Perhaps it was his diet? I remember there was a time when he looked very fit In early 90s. Chiselled jawline and lean. Burly shoulders. Maybe post 95 he had diabetes. What a shame. One of the best ever to play the game.
If he played in a better catching side, he may have been as good as mcgrath.
Such a shame. Was it type2? Perhaps it was his diet? I remember there was a time when he looked very fit In early 90s. Chiselled jawline and lean. Burly shoulders. Maybe post 95 he had diabetes. What a shame. One of the best ever to play the game.
If he played in a better catching side, he may have been as good as mcgrath.
Diabetes affected stamina that much? He was a true great regardless.
Type 1 where genes do play a role.
Very sad but so? Still one of the best ever. Shows you how good he is.
Bumrah is now top of the list with an average of 23.92 per wicket.
I still consider Wasim ahead.If Bumrah can cross Wasim's tally at a lower tally, then yeah he'd be truly ahead.
I have watched him bowl. He bowled against weake batsmen. There is a whole thread about it. Read it. Mamoon can explain to you if required.
Imran and wasim yes. Legends.
Waqar no. Overrated
Shoaib is far better.
Asif was better but yea fixing etc is a different story.
I have watched him bowl. He bowled against weake batsmen. There is a whole thread about it. Read it. Mamoon can explain to you if required.
Imran and wasim yes. Legends.
Waqar no. Overrated
Shoaib is far better.
Asif was better but yea fixing etc is a different story.
Bumrah is now top of the list with an average of 23.92 per wicket.
So it was not his lifestyle that you were asking rather more to do with his inherited genes as other type 1 diabetics (It can even happen in young children).
He was exceptional, right up their amongst the very best if not the best in terms of the complete varity of pace bowling skills he possessed without a doubt.
The batting in this era in tests is ONE BIG JOKE!
Comparing Bumrah to Wasim is like comparing Babar to Kohli.
The stats eventually might work in Bumrah and Babar's favor, but they are a rung lower than the ones they're being compared to.
Instead, their fans should just celebrate them potentially becoming the greatest from their countries.
Why would a Muppet explain to.mecabout fast bowling! I watcheda lot of county late 80's early 90's and international cricket, waqar younis I saw in county cricket for Surrey was one the most devastating fast bowlers ever seen! And he replicated that for pakistan!
waqar younis I saw in county cricket for Surrey was one the most devastating fast bowlers ever seen! And he replicated that for pakistan!
Waqar was mediocre against Aus, SA & India, that will always be held against him. He made his living terrorizing NZ, WI, Sri Lanka etc...
Wasim imo is the best ever fast bowler from the sub continent, Imran also has a strong case, but for me Wasim brought that extra excitement and X factor..
Comparing Bumrah to Wasim is like comparing Babar to Kohli.
The stats eventually might work in Bumrah and Babar's favor, but they are a rung lower than the ones they're being compared to.
Instead, their fans should just celebrate them potentially becoming the greatest from their countries.
Waqar was mediocre against Aus, SA & India, that will always be held against him. He made his living terrorizing NZ, WI, Sri Lanka etc...
Wasim imo is the best ever fast bowler from the sub continent, Imran also has a strong case, but for me Wasim brought that extra excitement and X factor..
Oh absolutely. Undoubtedly. Very sad to hear about type 1 diabetes. There is no cure for that at all?
From 1990 to 1995 Waqar Younis was monster against any side , his decline started post 1995 due to his injury as he lost pace though he is in great list.
Not s rung lower lmao. Babar is as good as peak kohli
Agree with wasim. Wasim is slightly better than bumrah.
He played against Aus in the 90 to 95 and avg around 34 vs them.
He terrorized teams like NZ, ZIm, Sri Lanka etc mainly.
Credit to him though he did real well against the WI, even though their batting was nothing great like the 80s but still solid.
Comparing Bumrah to Wasim is like comparing Babar to Kohli.
The stats eventually might work in Bumrah and Babar's favor, but they are a rung lower than the ones they're being compared to.
Instead, their fans should just celebrate them potentially becoming the greatest from their countries.
The batting in this era in tests is ONE BIG JOKE!
Babar with his 2 Sena centuries is nowhere near Kohli in tests, but neck to neck in white ball cricket. At this stage, even Rishabh Pant with his amazing match winning innings in tests is better than Babar.
Wasim Akram is hands down better than Bumrah. Those of us who had the privilege of seeing Akram would know what i am talking about!
Did you see his bowling in 90's in England , agree his record in Australia not as good as should have been , rest all the places he was more than excellent , keep in mind you can not compare 90's Australia team with current team so can not compare Bumrah Aus record Waqar against Aus.
Unlike some kids here, I have actually seen the 90s era and no, batting in that era wasn't all that, specially when you take into account easier bowling conditions.
Likes of Bumrah and Cummins would run riot in that era as well. Heck, anything over 140 with bounce and Asian batsmen were sitting ducks.
Bumrah is a sensational bowler. If he can maintain this level of form, he will go down as the second greatest Asian fast bowler of all-time after Wasim Akram.
Yea people are way too nostalgic. I have a hard time imagining any of the 90s batsmen having any sort of success vs bumrah or Cummins. Mind you they wouldn't need to focus on t20 like they do today. They will be even more potent.
Just compare Australia todays batting with 90's , 90's batting was far ahead.
India's batting in 90s was nothing in Test Cricket. They relied on one man overseas with no bowling support and as a result, they failed to win a single test in the whole decade. At home, Kumble and Srinath supported well and so did a couple of more batters - Azharuddin and Sidhu. As a result, we were still dominant at home.
Yea people are way too nostalgic. I have a hard time imagining any of the 90s batsmen having any sort of success vs bumrah or Cummins. Mind you they wouldn't need to focus on t20 like they do today. They will be even more potent.

Yup, not to mention easier bowling conditions and blatant shaitani with the ball that can make Praveen Kumar look like a world beater. With current technology, Cricket is a lot cleaner than in 90s, and bowlers actually earn their wickets.
Imagine Bumrah, Cummins, Steyn and Rabada in 90s with fielders "preparing" the ball like they used to... lol, total carnage.![]()
But pitches these days are more flat , for example Australian pitches are not as same as it was in 80's or 90's , these days Australia pitches have not much swing and seam as it we have witness in 70,80 & 90's , these days pitches have only bounce almost flat pitches .
Yup, not to mention easier bowling conditions and blatant shaitani with the ball that can make Praveen Kumar look like a world beater. With current technology, Cricket is a lot cleaner than in 90s, and bowlers actually earn their wickets.
Imagine Bumrah, Cummins, Steyn and Rabada in 90s with fielders "preparing" the ball like they used to... lol, total carnage.![]()
Exactly. 90s batsmen stand no chance lmao.
Then that means current bowlers are efar superior to 90s if pitches are flat and they are still averaging well.