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Best & Worst Leaders in the World

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The world seems to be at an all time low with the current Prime Ministers or Presidents who are in charge.

This is not who is the most popular but best leader but the best for their country and for the world at large(if a big powerful nation).



My Top Best


1. Putin - Russians were eating soup out of bags in the 90's. Putin eradicated a lot of extreme poverty. Set up his nations industries, one of the biggest suppliers of energy in the world. Stood up to Nato in Syria, not afraid to speak the truth. Not scared of Nato, giving their puppet another defeat in Ukraine now.


2. Imran Khan - Did something very special by setting up his own party and ending decades of theft by corrupt politicians. Tried his best to help the poor in various ways. Pakistan on the global stage has a lot more respect now than in most of its history. India tried to attack but were humliated under his leadership.



Worst

1. Biden - Simploy not mentally fit or stable to lead such a nation with so much military power and issues.


2. Modi - Cant spell basic English words. Poverty is still rife with 3 x the population of Pakistan in poverty. Turned India into a Hindutva extremist nation on the verge of mass communal violence. Also will lead to a far more extermist(if possible) taking over after him(Yogi).

3. Boris - Bad haircut - proven liar - works for the interests of the rich.

4. Macron - Secular extemist.



Please add yours and any reason.
 
My favorite world leader is Erdogan. I also think Imran Khan is okay.

My least favorite leaders are Modi, Macron, MBS, and Sheikh Hasina.
 
If OP is reversed than my answer is also same :sarfaraz

I guess there is a middle ground/ meeting for everyone regardless of which side. Kind of agree on Biden.
 
Currently worst:

Putin

Bolsonaro

Zelensky(esp before the war and underestimating Russia like a clown)


Best currently

Kishida (Japan)

Jacinda

Have to say any leader that crosses even one term hasnt really been that good.. probably because the world changes fast and they don’t.
 
Best:
Sheikh hasina, the way she dealt with jamiat e islami after the dhaka bakery bombing, she showed zero tolerance

Jacinda ardern

Worst:
Erdogan, this fool is trying to bring the ottoman empire back. Turkey is a secular country, but erdogan has meddled into everything. Economically they are also losing out.

Imran khan, is about to become the first ever pm of pakistan to lose the peoples confidence. Thus, enuff said.

Narendra modi, india is constitutionally secular, but like imran, he also has failed to respect the constitution. He would be ranked below imran as atleast from an economic point of view he knows what he is doing.

The kashmir amendments he passed was an own goal as he violated shimla agreement and allowed Pakistan to starting making noise for Kashmir.

50/50:
Mbs, the guy is trying to change saudia arabia, however the way he treats dissidents is ridculous
 
Biden is worst due to the afghan pull out and the AKUS mess he made between Austrlia and france. France was right to pull out its diplomats. These countries could had communicated better

Srilankas rajapakse has turned out to be a fool as the ciuntry has no foreign reserves and are facing an economic crises there
 
My favorite world leader is Erdogan. I also think Imran Khan is okay.

My least favorite leaders are Modi, Macron, MBS, and Sheikh Hasina.

You dont like Sheikh hasina?

Another female leader is NZ's Ardern. I viewed her as a good leader after the Christchurch massacre but since she has been very poor. Many in NZ are not happy with her performance. Her views on Ukraine are strange, as NZ is irrelevent in global geo-politics. Seems another stooge of Nato.
 
Currently worst:

Putin

Bolsonaro

Zelensky(esp before the war and underestimating Russia like a clown)


Best currently

Kishida (Japan)

Jacinda

Have to say any leader that crosses even one term hasnt really been that good.. probably because the world changes fast and they don’t.

The same Jacinda who on the Russia-Ukraine war said "this is the war of our generation"..... as if the last two decades of the US and their allies bombing country after country in Middle East is not "war".


Only war for these folks when white people get killed.
 
Best:

Imran Khan - rid 5th largest country and nuclear power of slavery of dynastic politics and started to improve the country's image and make it realize its true stature in the comity of nations. Provided free healthcare to 3/4 of the population something that is not possible in even wealthy first world countries. Resurrected sinking ship of economy and set country on path of sustainable economic growth - this year will be second year in row of 5+ growth, this it the first time this has happened since Mush left. On top of all of that, the amazing handling of the pandemic should alone make IK one of the best in the world. Others like Trump, Biden, Modi, Boris etc etc were mumbling fools in face of the pandemic but IK not only managed to save the economy he also saved the people.


Worst:
Modi - took a secular, democratic country like India and made it an intolerant Hindu rashtra. Picked fights with all of India's neighbours just for political expediency. Utter disaster handling of pandemic.

Biden - sleepy Joe is just a face of the US establishment. Tried to needle Russia by asking Ukraine to join NATO, and when Russia responded it sent the whole world in another super cycle of inflation just when things were beginning to recover from the pandemic.

Honourable mentions in worst category: Putin, Bolsonaro, UAE shiekhs
 
The same Jacinda who on the Russia-Ukraine war said "this is the war of our generation"..... as if the last two decades of the US and their allies bombing country after country in Middle East is not "war".


Only war for these folks when white people get killed.

Also Jacinda:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...dern-showed-the-world-what-a-leader-should-be

She has kept Kiwis safe in Covid , her support for
Nato and West is aligned due to her countries’ policy, similar to Imran’s with China.

Every leader cannot completely let go of its country’s past or foreign policy but as a leader are they doing what is best for their nation is what matters.
 
No one talking about God of the Middle kingdom, Lord Xi JinPing.
Very surprising!!

Because he has been a good leader but after his tech crackdown I’m not sure.. that’s why I didn’t mention him, if he hadn’t given himself an extension I would had put him as the best leader after Obama(my bias) of this millennium.
 
You dont like Sheikh hasina?

Another female leader is NZ's Ardern. I viewed her as a good leader after the Christchurch massacre but since she has been very poor. Many in NZ are not happy with her performance. Her views on Ukraine are strange, as NZ is irrelevent in global geo-politics. Seems another stooge of Nato.

I have never liked Sheikh Hasina, her party, or her father. Not all Bangladeshis like her or her party.

Jacinda is okay perhaps but I don't think she has been tested enough. She did well with Covid but her job was easier (low population of New Zealand, isolated islands from rest of the world etc.).
 
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No one talking about God of the Middle kingdom, Lord Xi JinPing.
Very surprising!!

No doubt he has set China on the way to become the worlds biggest superpower. Has to be up there even though Im not a supporter of communism.

I have never liked Sheikh Hasina, her party, or her father. Not all Bangladeshis like her or her party.

Jacinda is okay perhaps but I don't think she has been tested enough. She did well with Covid but her job was easier (low population of New Zealand, isolated islands from rest of the world etc.).

Hasina comes across uneducated and daft. I wouldnt let her run my Samosa stall..
 
Forgot to mention my leader, har-dil-azeez, sub ka bhai, sub ka yaaar, Trudeau jani.


A thousand good leaders have to die before a gem like Trudeau is born. Some of his amazing initiatives, gave people $2000 to sit at home, without questions asked. Sure if you lost your job then you deserve the stipend, but many people who earned less than that quit their jobs, sat on their bums at home and Trudeau jani personally delivered them monthly cheques of $2000 which the rest of the tax payers have to fund.

Trudeau Jani opened the flood gates of immigration. Half a million folks are entering Canada every year. Yet there is no plan to provide them with housing, employment, infrastructure etc etc. More people, less houses = even small single family homes cost a $1 million+

Inflation is 30 year high, you would think sub ka bhai would be worried about it, might take some measures to do something about at the very least fall back to his strength and do some cheap lipservice, but what does Jani do? He waltz over to Europe to get his feet wet in the Russia-Ukraine war Mashallah can't make this up.


I can go on and on. Trudeau Jani can't wait for the next pride march to dance though.
 
Hasina comes across uneducated and daft. I wouldnt let her run my Samosa stall..

It is not just about education. I just find her narcissistic and evil (just like her father was).

Everything has to be about her, her father, and her party. There can be no opposition.

I find her overrated and the so-called "growth" is misleading. The growth happened despite of her and not because of her.
 
Forgot to mention my leader, har-dil-azeez, sub ka bhai, sub ka yaaar, Trudeau jani.


A thousand good leaders have to die before a gem like Trudeau is born. Some of his amazing initiatives, gave people $2000 to sit at home, without questions asked. Sure if you lost your job then you deserve the stipend, but many people who earned less than that quit their jobs, sat on their bums at home and Trudeau jani personally delivered them monthly cheques of $2000 which the rest of the tax payers have to fund.

Trudeau Jani opened the flood gates of immigration. Half a million folks are entering Canada every year. Yet there is no plan to provide them with housing, employment, infrastructure etc etc. More people, less houses = even small single family homes cost a $1 million+

Inflation is 30 year high, you would think sub ka bhai would be worried about it, might take some measures to do something about at the very least fall back to his strength and do some cheap lipservice, but what does Jani do? He waltz over to Europe to get his feet wet in the Russia-Ukraine war Mashallah can't make this up.


I can go on and on. Trudeau Jani can't wait for the next pride march to dance though.

I agree.

Trudeau botched up a lot of things.

Crime has increased too under him.
 
Best = Imran Khan, a sincere, devout and humble Muslim man, proving that people can and do change - the death of his Mother a life-altering event.

Worst = Bin Salman, a war criminal, slaughtering and starving impoverished Yemenis; Jacinda Arden, groomed by the WEF and a totally fake humanitarian (same as Justin Trudeau) and Joe, war criminal, Biden - responsible for the destruction of Libya, Syria, Ukraine, a puppet of the military industrial complex (which owns the US lock, stock and barrel).
 
Forgot to mention my leader, har-dil-azeez, sub ka bhai, sub ka yaaar, Trudeau jani.


A thousand good leaders have to die before a gem like Trudeau is born. Some of his amazing initiatives, gave people $2000 to sit at home, without questions asked. Sure if you lost your job then you deserve the stipend, but many people who earned less than that quit their jobs, sat on their bums at home and Trudeau jani personally delivered them monthly cheques of $2000 which the rest of the tax payers have to fund.

Trudeau Jani opened the flood gates of immigration. Half a million folks are entering Canada every year. Yet there is no plan to provide them with housing, employment, infrastructure etc etc. More people, less houses = even small single family homes cost a $1 million+

Inflation is 30 year high, you would think sub ka bhai would be worried about it, might take some measures to do something about at the very least fall back to his strength and do some cheap lipservice, but what does Jani do? He waltz over to Europe to get his feet wet in the Russia-Ukraine war Mashallah can't make this up.


I can go on and on. Trudeau Jani can't wait for the next pride march to dance though.

You should checkout the deal he is making with NDP to keep them in power till 2025.. (dental housing etc) not sure how Canada is going to pay for all that.
 
One thing i find funny is how our desis when they move to a western country and become citizens or resident card holders, all of a sudden start to critisize the influx of immigrants. Like the desis defending brexit, or desis living in US and Canada..

Hop the boat but critisize the govt if they allow anyone else to join

I am daughter of immigrants and now a migrant of choice and cannot understand why immigrants are bad for a country. I think someone mentioned re high migrants yet no improvement in infrastructure. We currently have this issue in AUS we need migrants yet our infrastructure isn't where it should be! Then the migrants become scapegoats!
 
Best = Imran Khan, a sincere, devout and humble Muslim man, proving that people can and do change - the death of his Mother a life-altering event.

Worst = Bin Salman, a war criminal, slaughtering and starving impoverished Yemenis; Jacinda Arden, groomed by the WEF and a totally fake humanitarian (same as Justin Trudeau) and Joe, war criminal, Biden - responsible for the destruction of Libya, Syria, Ukraine, a puppet of the military industrial complex (which owns the US lock, stock and barrel).

Pretty much mirrors my thoughts.

On a specific note, I get uncanny and uncomfortable vibes from Ms Ardern for some reason. She seems to me quite a strange and sinister woman, likely compromised in some way, and she is (covertly) very much a hard authoritarian on an ideological level.

Meanwhile I wouldn’t even put our own leader somewhere in the middle of all this. Boris is such an idiot and so irrelevant that for me he doesn’t even get a rating.
 
Worst of the worst: All Zionist Israeli PMs in the last many decades.
Israeli policies towards Palestine have influenced Modi in his policies towards Kashmir and Muslims of India, so fascist Modi joins that list as he gets a pretty strong support from the Israeli Zionists.
These monsters are cold hearted, blood thirsty mass murders of innocent people.

Best has to be Imran Khan.
A free healthcare given to Pak public is an international level milestone surprisingly achieved by an economically crunched third world country under an astronomical amount of debt and very small GDP.

This is something that many, many advanced and super rich countries of the first world couldn’t do. So Kudos to him.

A lone man, who may have made mistakes and he will make mistakes, standing against an astronomical amount of corruption and dishonesty, but he won’t give up. No amount of money can buy him.
 
Let me set the direction of this thread.

This is not about Imran Khan and others.

Leave your feuds out of this
 
Best: Imran Khan.

Honourable mention : Jeremy Corbyn.

Worst: Has to be Biden and every other US president post WW2.
 
From the site above:

The latest approval ratings are based on data collected from March 16-22, 2022. Approval ratings are based on a seven-day moving average of adult residents in each country, with sample sizes varying by country.

Of course Modi will have a high approval rating within India, but stop pretending the numbers are based on world opinion.

:)

Who said here?
No leader will get worldwide opinion.
 
Who said here?
No leader will get worldwide opinion.

No one said, I was pointing a crucial detail to the stats, stats which would no doubt be spun as global approval by BJP apologists rather than domestic approval.

As for no leader will get a worldwide opinion - you what? Leaders like Biden do get a worldwide opinion. Also the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping.

What world are you living in?
 
No one said, I was pointing a crucial detail to the stats, stats which would no doubt be spun as global approval by BJP apologists rather than domestic approval.

As for no leader will get a worldwide opinion - you what? Leaders like Biden do get a worldwide opinion. Also the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping.

What world are you living in?

Ask the Global consultancy, they will tell you.
 
Pretty much mirrors my thoughts.

On a specific note, I get uncanny and uncomfortable vibes from Ms Ardern for some reason. She seems to me quite a strange and sinister woman, likely compromised in some way, and she is (covertly) very much a hard authoritarian on an ideological level.

Meanwhile I wouldn’t even put our own leader somewhere in the middle of all this. Boris is such an idiot and so irrelevant that for me he doesn’t even get a rating.



Your instincts regarding Jacinda Arden are spot on - she worked for Tony Blair and is one of those fake progressives that serve the interests of ruling classes not those of working people. You might find the following article about her enlightening -


'An Antipodean Obama
..Even though Ardern has brought little new to the table, members of the liberal commentariat take her progressive credentials entirely at face value, much as they did with charismatic centrists elsewhere, from Barack Obama to Justin Trudeau and Tony Blair. She has won accolades not for transformative leadership but rather because her victory evokes nostalgia among those who crave a return to a rapidly vanishing era in Western politics..'

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/02/jacinda-ardern-new-zealand-labour-prime-minister
 
From the site above:

The latest approval ratings are based on data collected from March 16-22, 2022. Approval ratings are based on a seven-day moving average of adult residents in each country, with sample sizes varying by country.

Of course Modi will have a high approval rating within India, but stop pretending the numbers are based on world opinion.

:)

No one is pretending this was a world opinion. For that matter, why should Indians care how world rates its leader?
 
No one is pretending this was a world opinion. For that matter, why should Indians care how world rates its leader?

Modi is India's PM. Elected by Indians. Ge is answerable to Indians. Not foreigners. So how Indians rate him matters.
 
The average foreigner will have a better chance of knowing Priyanka Chopra or Sundar Pichai than Modi. That's how relevant he is on the global stage.

However, within India, he's probably the most well-known PM since Indira Gandhi.
 
Best in the world:

Macron: Has led France well, and made sure France is the leading European nation.

PM Modi: Managed to Unite a big portion of India for the first time against Pseudo Secularism. Also given a real push to make in India, got rid of a lot of corruption, with the linkage of Aadhar/Pan card etc during property sales so it is a lot harder to evade Taxes etc, minimizing the value of black money.

Handled the Ukraine/Russia conflict real well, he didn't bow down to American pressure and made sure India got their cake and eat it too. He did a terrific job evacuating as many Indian students stuck in Ukraine by asking Putin to halt the bombings and having them evacuated.

Is he perfect ? NO, GST was a disaster, didn't show the guts/courage required to stamp down on the Farmers protest organized by the Gandhi Congress despite having all the power he needed in the upper and lower house. Also fuel prices are ridiculously high in India for a while now.



Imran: I give him credit here because he seems sincere and honest, however all he did different was jump from one ship to the other, before the Americans were telling Pakistanis what to do, now it is the Chinese that are in control. Still I believe he has the best interest of Pakistan even though he cant do anything about it. As I type this, I am hearing he may resign ? Lets see what happens here.


Worst:

Xi Jing Ping:

He has managed to cause issues with so many of his neighbors, has practically bankrupted Sri Lanka and most importantly he may be the cause of world war 3 with the Taiwan issue burning in the background.

Mahinda Rajapakshe:

He has sold Sri Lanka out to the Chinese, Sri Lanka is bankrupt, they are facing 10 hour power cut on a daily basis, have no money for food and essentials and a civil war could arise at any moment.. Congrats what a leader you are Rajapakshe, well done my boy, well done...
 
Imran. Almost a tie is Erdogan who like Imran is getting his country to an independent path . The really interesting part is Imran and Erdogan admire each other, inspire each other .
 
No one is pretending this was a world opinion. For that matter, why should Indians care how world rates its leader?

Read the OP. Carefully and slowly.

The question isn't just in reference to how leaders are judged within their respective nation but also the world at large (if a big powerful nation). It's ok if you think India isn't a global player.

Once again, READ the OP. Carefully and slowly.

:)
 
Currently worst:

Putin

Bolsonaro

Zelensky(esp before the war and underestimating Russia like a clown)


Best currently

Kishida (Japan)

Jacinda

Have to say any leader that crosses even one term hasnt really been that good.. probably because the world changes fast and they don’t.

Agree with you, will add Biden among the worst ones to complete the list. IK needs more time to prove himself the best or the worst. Hope he wins another term only then we I will comment on him.
 
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Who said here?
No leader will get worldwide opinion.

The average foreigner will have a better chance of knowing Priyanka Chopra or Sundar Pichai than Modi. That's how relevant he is on the global stage.

However, within India, he's probably the most well-known PM since Indira Gandhi.

World opinions will have nations with higher populations inc around the world with higher numbers. Also how they are portrayed by their allies in their media.

I was really looking for personal opinions.

Adern would have romped it in if NZ didn't pull out of the tour.

Pakistanis have moved on from this. However it did confirm Ardern is a Nato puppet just like the Aus PM, who is even worse due to his lack of ability to speak properly.

Scott Morrison's government forcing Austrlians like a fascist to conform to harsh covid rules shows he is clueless too.
 
World opinions will have nations with higher populations inc around the world with higher numbers. Also how they are portrayed by their allies in their media.

I was really looking for personal opinions.



Pakistanis have moved on from this. However it did confirm Ardern is a Nato puppet just like the Aus PM, who is even worse due to his lack of ability to speak properly.

Scott Morrison's government forcing Austrlians like a fascist to conform to harsh covid rules shows he is clueless too.

I'm more concerned about how much tomato sauce to put on my pie than what you think about Australia or our politicians. Sorry.
 
I'm more concerned about how much tomato sauce to put on my pie than what you think about Australia or our politicians. Sorry.

Got to be brown sauce for pie, Gilly.
 
Imran. Almost a tie is Erdogan who like Imran is getting his country to an independent path . The really interesting part is Imran and Erdogan admire each other, inspire each other .

Erdogan is a fascinating figure, certainly one of the most evolved and forward-thinking of all senior politicians who is currently in office.
 
The world seems to be at an all time low with the current Prime Ministers or Presidents who are in charge.

This is not who is the most popular but best leader but the best for their country and for the world at large(if a big powerful nation).



My Top Best


1. Putin - Russians were eating soup out of bags in the 90's. Putin eradicated a lot of extreme poverty. Set up his nations industries, one of the biggest suppliers of energy in the world. Stood up to Nato in Syria, not afraid to speak the truth. Not scared of Nato, giving their puppet another defeat in Ukraine now.


2. Imran Khan - Did something very special by setting up his own party and ending decades of theft by corrupt politicians. Tried his best to help the poor in various ways. Pakistan on the global stage has a lot more respect now than in most of its history. India tried to attack but were humliated under his leadership.



Worst

1. Biden - Simploy not mentally fit or stable to lead such a nation with so much military power and issues.


2. Modi - Cant spell basic English words. Poverty is still rife with 3 x the population of Pakistan in poverty. Turned India into a Hindutva extremist nation on the verge of mass communal violence. Also will lead to a far more extermist(if possible) taking over after him(Yogi).

3. Boris - Bad haircut - proven liar - works for the interests of the rich.

4. Macron - Secular extemist.



Please add yours and any reason.

Putin and Imran are the best? :yk3 I understand you are a fan of Imran Khan. But still.
 
I'm more concerned about how much tomato sauce to put on my pie than what you think about Australia or our politicians. Sorry.

You're the one who comes to visit us, not vice versa....ever.

Dont be too ashamed , Scott Morrison isnt a buffoon, he makes Boris seem intelligent.

You have him and his party parading around , talking tough against China. This is idiotic at best and dangerous at worst. China would wipe out Australia very quickly, they are not the natives of Australia.

Instead of trying to forge better relations with a superpower neighbour, which would have boosted Aus economy and kept them safe, he tries to flex his muscles which he or Aus dont have.

Its not the 1700's and dont forget how Nato is doing nothing to help Ukraine, you are in the same banana republic boat as them.
 
People make too much of individual leaders. The structural challenges facing a country cannot be resolved through a 4-5 year term of office and glossy election manifestos.

Desis especially are guilty of placing leaders on a pedestal, expecting miraculous outcomes from messianic figures. Many forget these leaders are only as effective as the institutional, political and global constraints they operate in. Quite often, they are just event managers dealing with crises as they crop up.

Take Iran for example. How can you fairly judge any Iranian President when it's a country subjected to countless sanctions, many key decisions are taken by the Supreme Leader or IRGC, and surrounded by enemies ? You may have the most skilled, adept leader on earth and still can only do so much.

How much can a US President accomplish legislatively when to pass bills you need not just a majority, but a supermajority of 60 votes in the Senate ? People hail FDR and LBJ as transformational but they had massive Congressional majorities to play with.

It's unsurprising then that autocratic leaders tend to fare well in these polls because they don't have to worry about institutional constraints, potential backlash from voters or negative media coverage. That's also why I'd judge them more harshly.
 
People make too much of individual leaders. The structural challenges facing a country cannot be resolved through a 4-5 year term of office and glossy election manifestos.

Desis especially are guilty of placing leaders on a pedestal, expecting miraculous outcomes from messianic figures. Many forget these leaders are only as effective as the institutional, political and global constraints they operate in. Quite often, they are just event managers dealing with crises as they crop up.

Take Iran for example. How can you fairly judge any Iranian President when it's a country subjected to countless sanctions, many key decisions are taken by the Supreme Leader or IRGC, and surrounded by enemies ? You may have the most skilled, adept leader on earth and still can only do so much.

How much can a US President accomplish legislatively when to pass bills you need not just a majority, but a supermajority of 60 votes in the Senate ? People hail FDR and LBJ as transformational but they had massive Congressional majorities to play with.

It's unsurprising then that autocratic leaders tend to fare well in these polls because they don't have to worry about institutional constraints, potential backlash from voters or negative media coverage. That's also why I'd judge them more harshly.

pretty much this, most desis are obsessed with messianic political leaders. mix in a some nationalism, a dash of populism, a liberal sprinkling of religion and serve with a side of vague delusion of grandeur and most desis will fall head over heels, the irony is that Pakistanis and indians are pretty much the same in this regard.
 
Top post once again [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION].
 
Desis especially are guilty of placing leaders on a pedestal, expecting miraculous outcomes from messianic figures. Many forget these leaders are only as effective as the institutional, political and global constraints they operate in. Quite often, they are just event managers dealing with crises as they crop up.

Amen! Need to frame this para, top post.

Unfortunately the scenario now is such that the electoral process simply runs it's due course to kick out an unpopular incumbent for the said Messiah, then watch the latter turn unpopular in 4-5 years. After this the cycle repeats itself!
 
pretty much this, most desis are obsessed with messianic political leaders. mix in a some nationalism, a dash of populism, a liberal sprinkling of religion and serve with a side of vague delusion of grandeur and most desis will fall head over heels, the irony is that Pakistanis and indians are pretty much the same in this regard.

I have noticed this. It seems to be connected to the ideal of some great leader figure who imposes his (and, tellingly, it’s always a man) will on others, rather than what said leader does to make the people freer, more prosperous and happier.

Similarly with batting heroes, who have the “mental strength” to impose themselves on others.
 
How much can a US President accomplish legislatively when to pass bills you need not just a majority, but a supermajority of 60 votes in the Senate ? People hail FDR and LBJ as transformational but they had massive Congressional majorities to play with.

The House and Senate have been close to deadlocked for decades now as USA gradually splits into conservative and liberal enclave states, reinforced by gerrymandering.

Some Presidents such as Reagan and Clinton have done better at winning bilateral support than others such as Bush 43 and Obama - but the eighties and nineties were before the screeching shock-jocks really started polarising American politics.
 
Worst

1. Biden - Simploy not mentally fit or stable to lead such a nation with so much military power and issues.


2. Modi - Cant spell basic English words. Poverty is still rife with 3 x the population of Pakistan in poverty. Turned India into a Hindutva extremist nation on the verge of mass communal violence. Also will lead to a far more extermist(if possible) taking over after him(Yogi).

3. Boris - Bad haircut - proven liar - works for the interests of the rich.

4. Macron - Secular extemist.



Please add yours and any reason.

Narrator: The OP voluntarily chooses to live in the land of Number #3 among his worst leaders list.
 
While I don;t always agree with their politics I feel like Mark Drakeford and Nicola Sturgeon are reasonably competent leaders, well respected by the majority of their populace and have somewhat forward thinking policies.

Perhaps their jobs are made easier by the fact that the can blame any bad decisions on Westminster and take the credit for the good ones.

I also quite like Michael Martin of the Republic of Ireland.

The current Tory Regime is probably the worst we have in the UK for a while.
 
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Narrator: The OP voluntarily chooses to live in the land of Number #3 among his worst leaders list.

What a ridiculous statement. 10s of Millions have the same view of Boris as the OP, should they leave the UK too?

It’s called a democracy; Boris will not be at the helm forever, and if your idea is moving countries when a leader is disliked, then it might explain why you are desperate to move to the UK.
 
The best leader maybe Jacinda Ardern she is loved by her people as most of the world. Worst leader is obvious, no one comes close to Imran Khan.
 
What a ridiculous statement. 10s of Millions have the same view of Boris as the OP, should they leave the UK too?

No it's not ridiculous - I'm talking exclusively of the OP and other BBCDS. If their parents have wrongly picked Churchill over Jinnah, it's only fair to expect the offspring to realize the errors of their ways and move back to the country which surprise - they hold a passport of. After all, Imran is 'Best' and Boris is 'Worst', no?
 
No it's not ridiculous - I'm talking exclusively of the OP and other BBCDS. If their parents have wrongly picked Churchill over Jinnah, it's only fair to expect the offspring to realize the errors of their ways and move back to the country which surprise - they hold a passport of. After all, Imran is 'Best' and Boris is 'Worst', no?

No need for jealousy to creep in. Your comment is laughable; just because one doesn’t like the leader one should migrate from the country? Your comment also applies to indigenous whites in the UK who do not rate Boris. This is how weak and desperate your point is.

I do not know which errors you are referring to, but no one had a crystal ball back in the day to say Boris would be PM in 2022.

Remember, no one gets to choose where they are born, but you are free to apply to live in the UK. (1st generation Asians were invited).
 
Best - Hasina of Bangladesh (The rapid rise of Bangladesh under her is commendable)

Worst - Imran Khan, Putin, Rajapaksa, Taliban, Erdogan, Biden
 
Best or worst I don't know but google says Modi is the stupidest. IK is a narcissist...he is a cult more then a leader. He tells Pakistanis how corrupt the politicians are as if we didn't no already. There is no politician in Pak that i trust. IK is a hypocrite telling others to avoid the so called pitfalls and ill's of western society that he enjoyed so much during his own youth.
 
Good and bad according to my value system:

Good

Zelenskiy. Took his country in the direction of liberal democracy. Now standing up to a dreadful tyranny, and inspiring the rich democracies of the Northern hemisphere to remember what is good about them and why that good should be protected.

Ardern. Protected her people from COVID and has removed all large magazine and semiautomatic firearms. Spending big on public services.

Merkel. Stepped down, but arguably the leader of the free world during the Trump years. Extremely bright. Understood the threat to democracy from Putin. Took in a million Middle Eastern and North African refugees.


Basically competent but unspectacular

Biden, Trudeau, Macron.


Bad - populists

Morrison - captured by big gas & oil. Appeals to xenophobia.

Johnson - a narcissist who is corroding UK democratic institutions, and lies as easily as most people breathe. Exists only to stay in power, never to serve. A Remainer who nailed his colours to Leave as a career move. Stands for nothing. Trashing international reputation and competence. Threatening peace in NI.

Orban - appeals to the worst, racist impulses of his people. Hungary should be thrown out of EU and NATO.

Bolsanaro - a science-denier whose inaction in the face of COVID cost untold numbers of Brazilian lives.


Bad - authoritarians

Ergoyan - reversing some of the great Ataturk’s liberal advances. Playing NATO and Putin off against each other, so untrustworthy to both.

The Taliban - incompetent medievalists presiding over mass starvation.

Xi Jinping - leader of an oppressive system carrying out a genocide of the Uighur.

Kim Jong-un. Hereditary dictator. Keeping his people poor and ignorant.

Putin - the master of propaganda and alternative warfare. Corrosive to democratic institutions everywhere. A stone evil kleptocrat gangster.
 
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[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] - thats quite an interesting list.

I agree with the bad populists list but have some disagreements with the rest.

I wouldn't put Zelensky in the good leader bracket. Sure he may adhere to your value system but surely an element of leadership related to protecting your state/people. He has led his to ruin.

I dont belive Biden is competent, and Macron has drifted towards the bad populist category in my eyes.

Erdogan sure has revoked some of ataturks 'advances'...but these were imposed on the population with force. Is reviewing them really so bad?
 
Best or worst I don't know but google says Modi is the stupidest. IK is a narcissist...he is a cult more then a leader. He tells Pakistanis how corrupt the politicians are as if we didn't no already. There is no politician in Pak that i trust. IK is a hypocrite telling others to avoid the so called pitfalls and ill's of western society that he enjoyed so much during his own youth.

Putting aside your general hate of India, how is a 2 term PM still popular and stupid?
 
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] - thats quite an interesting list.

I agree with the bad populists list but have some disagreements with the rest.

I wouldn't put Zelensky in the good leader bracket. Sure he may adhere to your value system but surely an element of leadership related to protecting your state/people. He has led his to ruin.

That’s victim-blaming. Sometimes you have to fight for the sort of society you want, not the one the monster next door tells you to want.

I dont belive Biden is competent, and Macron has drifted towards the bad populist category in my eyes.

Biden had always been gaffe-prone. I think he came to the Presidency too late in life, but he’s basically doing ok given the hand he was dealt. Perhaps he will be considered by historians as below the median for Presidents - the last really good one was arguably LBJ.

Regarding religious iconography? Not so much Macron personally, as the ethos of the Fifth Republic. You are French first, then Catholic / Muslim / Jewish / Buddhist second. The iconography ban applies to all.

Erdogan sure has revoked some of ataturks 'advances'...but these were imposed on the population with force. Is reviewing them really so bad?

If said review results in action which disempowers people, particularly women.
 
Putting aside your general hate of India, how is a 2 term PM still popular and stupid?

Coz he is voted in by RSS fascist supporters. His re-election shows that India is now a fascist country as many independent sources have confirmed. His stupidity is making false threats, walking out of shows when unable to answer questions and being ignored by other world politicians. Saying how plastic surgery and alien's existed in ancient India and most of all how in any war fighter jets can be parked behind clouds:))):))):))) Lets not forget how he can't put together two words without a teleprompter:jofra
 
Best - Hasina of Bangladesh (The rapid rise of Bangladesh under her is commendable)

Worst - Imran Khan, Putin, Rajapaksa, Taliban, Erdogan, Biden

You must be a Patwari , but I respect your opinion , best we have so far is one hiding in London .
 
Coz he is voted in by RSS fascist supporters. His re-election shows that India is now a fascist country as many independent sources have confirmed. His stupidity is making false threats, walking out of shows when unable to answer questions and being ignored by other world politicians. Saying how plastic surgery and alien's existed in ancient India and most of all how in any war fighter jets can be parked behind clouds:))):))):))) Lets not forget how he can't put together two words without a teleprompter:jofra

If a person can rally that kind of support, suddenly change the country into Muslim killing machines - manage to read from a teleprompter with success , make people believe about aliens etc, then boy that man must be smart not stupid

You really think in large numbers, I can relate to that - many Pakistanis do like India has become fascist from some sources on the net - its not like that, they did pick congress before that and the previous BJP was actually very successful

the issue is there is no one else now, and people will eventually get bored of him, that Yogi isnt charismatic. I agree, there is rising Hindu nationalism but that happens, its their country, seen what happened in US after Trump - they have been living with Muslims since 1947, more than Pakistan. You know Hindus are treated in Pakistan?

Learn from the enemy bud - you might hate him, but he is leader which works for his country
 
Best and Worst is all relative, and even that keeps changing in this "geopolitical shifting to geoeconomic" world. Whats worst for Pakistan could be best for India. What's worst for Russia could be best for Ukraine or Europe. However, what can't be denied is that in today's time most leaders are far more answerable to their own countrymen than 10 or 20 years back and hence focus of leaders is more domestic than international.
 
If a person can rally that kind of support, suddenly change the country into Muslim killing machines - manage to read from a teleprompter with success , make people believe about aliens etc, then boy that man must be smart not stupid

You really think in large numbers, I can relate to that - many Pakistanis do like India has become fascist from some sources on the net - its not like that, they did pick congress before that and the previous BJP was actually very successful

the issue is there is no one else now, and people will eventually get bored of him, that Yogi isnt charismatic. I agree, there is rising Hindu nationalism but that happens, its their country, seen what happened in US after Trump - they have been living with Muslims since 1947, more than Pakistan. You know Hindus are treated in Pakistan?

Learn from the enemy bud - you might hate him, but he is leader which works for his country

Even Hitler had massive support that did not make him a humanitarian. Sure his fascist regime and followers call for Muslim genocide without realizing it will bring civil war in their country. That is the stupid part that the RSS fascists don't realize the consequences thinking their Muslim's will just roll up and die. Over 200 million people may be a minority nonetheless can do helluva lot of damage. Anyone can read from a teleprompter where as those who believe in UFO's don't not do so because of Modi.

The BJP and RSS are successful because of their hate mongering not that as a Pakistani I care about Indian Muslim's coz I don't. I am pointing out the ramblings of the RSS not expressing my love for Indian Muslim's. Rather I feel Indian Muslim's like the Owaisi's who mostly hate Pakistan should now be worried about saving their own bacon. No one is getting bored of Modi rather the exact opposite. Now in India Muslim hate songs have never been as popular as they are today. Soon they will be seen in their films and Music channels too. Pak isn't producing Hindu hate pop video's or our politicians calling for their genocide. There is nothing to learn from an illiterate freak!
 
The BJP and RSS are successful because of their hate mongering not that as a Pakistani I care about Indian Muslim's coz I don't. I am pointing out the ramblings of the RSS not expressing my love for Indian Muslim's.

Why not? What does "PP's own self proclaimed sharpshooter and defender of Islam and Pakistan." mean then?
 
Why not? What does "PP's own self proclaimed sharpshooter and defender of Islam and Pakistan." mean then?

Defender of Islam and Pakistan. I did not say defender of every Muslim on the planet least of all Indian ones. I mean defender of the country of Pakistan and Islamic theology.
 
Defender of Islam and Pakistan. I did not say defender of every Muslim on the planet least of all Indian ones. I mean defender of the country of Pakistan and Islamic theology.

So you've thrown the Palestinians under the bus too?
 
So you've thrown the Palestinians under the bus too?

Yes. When has any other Muslim country or community supported Pakistan that we should do so them?. I don't care about the Arab's either. Indian Muslim's are not our problem either so you claim them and treat them however you want. I echo the views of Hassan Nisar if you know who he is.
 
Yes. When has any other Muslim country or community supported Pakistan that we should do so them?. I don't care about the Arab's either. Indian Muslim's are not our problem either so you claim them and treat them however you want. I echo the views of Hassan Nisar if you know who he is.

Gotta doff my hat to you - you're a rare breed and hopefully the first of many.
 
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