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on a side note, should I believe a highly educated Indian politician over some guy on an online forum who has the words "The Last Airbender" in his handle? How much sense would that make? lol
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BJP moves SC for removal of term ‘secular’ from India’s Constitution’s preamble
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India cannot be truly secular as long as different laws are applied for different groups.
We have a warped idea of what secularism is. It does not mean people of various faiths and cultures following their own laws and rules. It means everyone following the same law irrespective of their background.
Its funny that some people throw a fit the moment we ask everyone to follow the same law.
We have a warped idea of what secularism is. It does not mean people of various faiths and cultures following their own laws and rules. It means everyone following the same law irrespective of their background.
Its funny that some people throw a fit the moment we ask everyone to follow the same law.
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Not only that, but its quite clear some influential and educated people are pushing for India to be not "not secular" which I think it already is.
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Who gets to decide what rules and laws are encoded and which ones are discarded?
The Government and the opposition parties. India already has laws for everyone.
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In that case it is already secular according to your definition, so not sure what your beef is.
Secular on the face. But laws are applied differently for different communities.
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So that means you aren't happy with your own choice for deciding what laws are encoded and which ones are discarded.
Heck no.. Ind has to remain secular with no appeasement .. Just follow the damn law thats all. And BTW, there is a lot of good in these western implants that could be imbibed. Dont want Ind to go down a s.barrell hole by going all religion crazy and stuff like that.
The Ind SC has already dismissed the plea. Good from them. Time to have closing statements on this thread I guess ! Well done Ind SC. No place for this nonsense where religion is the over riding heirarchy.
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Secularism basic, unamendable part of Constitution, says SC | India News - Times of India
India News: The Supreme Court expressed reservations about a plea to remove 'secular' and 'socialist' from the Preamble, deeming them integral to the Constitution
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As I said, the biggest takeaway from this thread: BJP supporters are ready to live in a "secular" country if Modi claims so. Otherwise Hindu Rashtra is their dream
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Mature enough to keep judicial matters aside: Chief Justice on puja with PM
Chief Justice of India DY Chandrachud, who is set to retire on November 10, 2024, addressed the controversy surrounding his meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi during the Ganesh Puja in September.
He emphasised that such meetings are routine and focused on discussing infrastructure issues related to the judiciary, rather than judicial decisions.
Following the Prime Minister's visit to Chandrachud's home during the festival, the Opposition raised questions regarding the appropriateness of the meeting.
In response, Chief Justice Chandrachud stated, "There is enough maturity among judges of constitutional courts and the heads of the executive to firmly keep aside judicial matters out of the purview of any discussion."
He further clarified, "We know our duties in the democratic system of governance, and the political executive know theirs. No judge, least of them the Chief Justice of India or Chief Justices, can even remotely invite any threat, actual or perceived, to the independence of the judiciary."
Speaking at the Loksatta lecture series, Chandrachud noted that in various states, it is customary for Chief Justices to meet with Chief Ministers. "You never meet for a judicial discussion. And the maturity of our political system lies in the fact that there is a great deal of deference to the judiciary, even in the political class," he added.
Highlighting the need for such meetings, DY Chandrachud pointed to the importance of addressing judicial infrastructure, including new court buildings and accommodation for judges. "For this, you need a meeting of the Chief Justice and the Chief Minister," he said, recalling his experiences as Chief Justice in various High Courts.
The ougoing Chief Justice emphasised that these meetings are essential for maintaining robust dialogue between the judiciary and the government.
"We have to understand that the work of all three arms is dedicated to one and the same goal-the betterment of the nation. So long as we trust this process, I think we must accept that there has to be continuing dialogue," he stated.
He also mentioned that judges sometimes meet political leaders at social gatherings but never discuss their judicial work in those contexts.
OPPOSITION CRITICISM TO PM MODI's PUJA WITH CHIEF JUSTICE
A massive row had erupted following PM Modi's visit to Chief Justice Dy Chandrachud's house. Shiv Sena (UBT) leader Sanjay Raut had asked DY Chandrachud to recuse himself from the case linked to the tussle between Shiv Sena (UBT) and the Eknath Shinde-led Shiv Sena.Party leader Priyanka Chaturvedi expressed a similar sentiment and pointed to the repeated adjournments in the Sena vs Sena case.
"Ganpati puja is a personal issue, but you are taking a camera. The message it sends is uncomfortable. The Chief Justice of India and the Prime Minister are tall personalities. So what can we say if they agreed to put out these photographs in the public domain," RJD leader and Rajya Sabha MP Manoj Jha had said.
BJP spokesperson Shehzad Poonawalla, however, hit out at the Opposition criticism, stating that a 2009 Iftar party hosted by then Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was attended by the then Chief Justice of India KG Balakrishnan.
Mature enough to keep judicial matters aside: Chief Justice on puja with PM
Chief Justice DY Chandrachud said such meetings, like the one he had with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, are important to address judicial infrastructure, including new court buildings and accommodation for judges.
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