Black Lives Matter thread

[CricketCartoons]

Doesn’t work any more - you can be polite and still get shot.

One can still die after wearing seat belts, doesn't mean you stop wearing it. People should learn to be polite with the police.

 

[Gilly]

Police execute black man.

Andrew Brown Jr. Was Shot In The Back Of His Head, Family Says, Citing Autopsy
Andrew Brown Jr. died from a fatal gunshot to the back of head, his relatives and family attorneys said Tuesday, citing the results of an independent autopsy. The finding bolsters the claim that Brown was "executed," the family said.

"It was a kill shot to the back of the head" that cost Brown his life, family attorney Ben Crump said Tuesday as his office released the results.
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/27/9912...e-back-of-his-head-family-says-citing-autopsy

 

[Robert]

One can still die after wearing seat belts, doesn't mean you stop wearing it. People should learn to be polite with the police.

An inappropriate analogy. Politeness is not a seatbelt and police are not road accidents.

 

[CricketCartoons]

An inappropriate analogy. Politeness is not a seatbelt and police are not road accidents.

Analogy was not in comparing politeness with seatbelt. It was about doing something which reduces your chances of getting harmed. Just because safety is not 100% guaranteed doesnt mean you don't do it. This was the analogy.

 

[Robert]

Analogy was not in comparing politeness with seatbelt. It was about doing something which reduces your chances of getting harmed. Just because safety is not 100% guaranteed doesnt mean you don't do it. This was the analogy.

Tell it to that black chap in the car who was shot dead in front of his girlfriend while complying fully.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

One can still die after wearing seat belts, doesn't mean you stop wearing it. People should learn to be polite with the police.

You have a point, but police should also learn not to shoot people dead if they aren't polite. Wearing the badge brings with it extra responsibility. Or at least it should, I know that in Pakistan it is considered a licence to throw your weight around, but you would expect better in developed countries.

 

[Robert]

You have a point, but police should also learn not to shoot people dead if they aren't polite. Wearing the badge brings with it extra responsibility. Or at least it should, I know that in Pakistan it is considered a licence to throw your weight around, but you would expect better in developed countries.

Quite. [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] is victim-blaming. One should not have to be polite to avoid getting shot dead by police.

Lethal force can only be justified to stop a lethal criminal action which is about to take place.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Tell it to that black chap in the car who was shot dead in front of his girlfriend while complying fully.

When asked to wear a helmet, will you say go and tell that guy who was wearing helmet and still couldn't be saved.

If you say that police should not be trigger happy, I agree. But this logic of not putting behaviour which is more likely to keep you away from trouble, just because it couldn't help a few is very poor logic.

 

[Gilly]

Quite. [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] is victim-blaming. One should not have to be polite to avoid getting shot dead by police.

Lethal force can only be justified to stop a lethal criminal action which is about to take place.

Explain that to the mothers, fathers, children and siblings of the dozens of police officers who are killed because they were murdered just for doing their job.

 

[Technics 1210]

Tell it to that black chap in the car who was shot dead in front of his girlfriend while complying fully.

What do we say to the white police officer killed by a black outside of the Whitehouse? The officer was on duty.

 

[Technics 1210]

You have a point, but police should also learn not to shoot people dead if they aren't polite. Wearing the badge brings with it extra responsibility. Or at least it should, I know that in Pakistan it is considered a licence to throw your weight around, but you would expect better in developed countries.

Easier said then done. It’s not a question of learning.

Police have shot countless people dead thinking the victims had a gun. In the recent case of the boy (Adam Toledo) who was shot dead (with his hands in the air) revealed the boy threw away his gun while running away from the police.

 

[Technics 1210]

Quite. [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] is victim-blaming. One should not have to be polite to avoid getting shot dead by police.

Lethal force can only be justified to stop a lethal criminal action which is about to take place.

He is not victim blaming. If he is, what are you doing when blaming the colour of skin?

The difference is that a subjective view does not look beyond the colour of skin, while the objective view looks beyond the colour of skin.

You cannot possibly sit here and say a victim who fails to comply is free of fault and died because of his skin colour and not his actions.

 

[Robert]

Explain that to the mothers, fathers, children and siblings of the dozens of police officers who are killed because they were murdered just for doing their job.

Explain that people are allowed to use lethal force to protect themselves from being killed?

Doesn’t everyone know that already?

 

[Robert]

He is not victim blaming. If he is, what are you doing when blaming the colour of skin?

The difference is that a subjective view does not look beyond the colour of skin, while the objective view looks beyond the colour of skin.

You cannot possibly sit here and say a victim who fails to comply is free of fault and died because of his skin colour and not his actions.

He didn’t mention skin colour and neither did I.

We are talking about politeness to police officers, not “failure to comply”. One can be polite, comply fully, and still get shot dead.

It’s got to the point where law-abiding black British friends tell me they no longer want to visit USA because they do not feel safe from the police.

 

[Gilly]

He didn’t mention skin colour and neither did I.

We are talking about politeness to police officers, not “failure to comply”. One can be polite, comply fully, and still get shot dead.

It’s got to the point where law-abiding black British friends tell me they no longer want to visit USA because they do not feel safe from the police.

Have you explained to your black friends that a white person is more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person is likely to be killed by a white person in the USA and that is a fact.

 

[Technics 1210]

He didn’t mention skin colour and neither did I.

We are talking about politeness to police officers, not “failure to comply”. One can be polite, comply fully, and still get shot dead.

It’s got to the point where law-abiding black British friends tell me they no longer want to visit USA because they do not feel safe from the police.

You did mention colour of skin, post 245.

You continue to mention colour of skin above.

When will you accept it is not just blacks who are victims of the police in USA? Whites, brown, Hispanics, Asian - all are victims too.

You will never find a fix for the solution if the scope of the problem is defined by black skin colour.

It is obvious that police brutality spares no skin colour. Guns and police procedures are at the crux of the problem - not skin colour.

Blacks are not the only ones who died when complying. Whites too, Tony Timpa. Not a single comment from you or anyone supporting BLM/Left on the poor guys death at the hands of the police.

I have a few friends who refuse to travel to the USA because they are Muslim.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Easier said then done. It’s not a question of learning.

Police have shot countless people dead thinking the victims had a gun. In the recent case of the boy (Adam Toledo) who was shot dead (with his hands in the air) revealed the boy threw away his gun while running away from the police.

I'm not saying police aren't justified in shooting suspects in some situations, otherwise what is the point of carrying a gun? Each case has to be judged on it's own merits. Police need to be hit hard when they get trigger happy, that will in itself have the effect of making them judge the situation clearly.

 

[The_KING]

Did this really happen, non of the networks are covering it so I dont know if its fake news.

Police lives matter. The networks won’t cover it because it doesn’t fit their narrative.

 

[Technics 1210]

I'm not saying police aren't justified in shooting suspects in some situations, otherwise what is the point of carrying a gun? Each case has to be judged on it's own merits. Police need to be hit hard when they get trigger happy, that will in itself have the effect of making them judge the situation clearly.

There is also the circumstance in which an officer has to make a split second decision. Officers can be trained to gold level standard, but nothing can prepare them for making that split second decision. Officers have retired, transferred, or changed career over a wrong decision. In some cases the psychological damage is permanent. How do you train for this?

It doesn’t surprise me that police officers in the USA genuinely fear for their lives simply because guns are legal in USA and the police themselves can end up being victims - it has happened many times.

This is precisely why any change in police procedure following Floyd’s death will not make a difference.

 

[Gilly]

There is also the circumstance in which an officer has to make a split second decision. Officers can be trained to gold level standard, but nothing can prepare them for making that split second decision. Officers have retired, transferred, or changed career over a wrong decision. In some cases the psychological damage is permanent. How do you train for this?

It doesn’t surprise me that police officers in the USA genuinely fear for their lives simply because guns are legal in USA and the police themselves can end up being victims - it has happened many times.

This is precisely why any change in police procedure following Floyd’s death will not make a difference.

This is where it becomes a balancing act, more police will die if they are restricted from preventive action.

If people were compliant and respectful of the police then the police would be more relaxed and less people will die.

 

[Technics 1210]

This is where it becomes a balancing act, more police will die if they are restricted from preventive action.

If people were compliant and respectful of the police then the police would be more relaxed and less people will die.

Exactly. Which is precisely why the objective analysis to the Floyd’s death yields one question - why did he not comply? Was he hiding something? Was it the drugs? Or was he simply scared? We will never know, but one thing is for sure, had he complied, he’d be alive today.

 

[Robert]

Have you explained to your black friends that a white person is more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person is likely to be killed by a white person in the USA and that is a fact.

Irrelevant to the discussion - we are talking about excessive force applied by American police.

 

[Gilly]

Irrelevant to the discussion - we are talking about excessive force applied by American police.

No that is not true, you are only speaking about excessive force applied by American police against black people, you are excluding excessive force applied by American police on white people, you are also excluding black people refusing to treat the police with respect and complying with lawful instructions.

Anything that goes against your agenda is off limits especially if it contradicts your agenda.

You will not even consider discussing the fact black people are more than three times as likely to kill a police officer which is a contributing factor to the police being nervous when approaching black people.

 

[Robert]

No that is not true, you are only speaking about excessive force applied by American police against black people, you are excluding excessive force applied by American police on white people, you are also excluding black people refusing to treat the police with respect and complying with lawful instructions.

Anything that goes against your agenda is off limits especially if it contradicts your agenda.

You will not even consider discussing the fact black people are more than three times as likely to kill a police officer which is a contributing factor to the police being nervous when approaching black people.

You’re not sticking to the point, you’re generalising and whattabouting. If you hold a single line of argument for a few posts I will debate with you further. Otherwise, good day

 

[Technics 1210]

I think the issue here is that those who claim blacks are a victim of racsim base their point on generalisations.

- USA is systematically racist
- USA police is racist.
- Blacks have least opportunity in USA
- Blacks are victims of racism

This list goes on. The very questions which are left unanswered actually disprove the generalisations above and prove opinions on racism are largely derived from the media sensationalism.

Society must learn to be objective, no matter how bitter the truth.

 

[Gilly]

You’re not sticking to the point, you’re generalising and whattabouting. If you hold a single line of argument for a few posts I will debate with you further. Otherwise, good day

Most SJWs do go quiet when you mention things like black people are responsible for three to four times more murders than white people and they wonder why the police are a bit more edgy when dealing with black people.

They hone in a statistic like how more blacks per population are killed by police by refuse to accept that blacks murder more people than whites by a large margin. They focus on 20 or so deaths by the police and ignore the thousands of deaths at the hands of blacks.

You have a good day too.

 

[OMB]

OKLAHOMA SCHOOL DISTRICT BANS BLACK LIVES MATTER SHIRTS

The National Coalition Against Censorship has written to a Ardmore City Schools in Oklahoma after learning that the district had forbidden students from wearing Black Lives Matter apparel in school. Media reports suggest that the superintendent told a parent that “politics will not be allowed at school.” However, as established in Tinker v Des Moines (1969), students’ political speech is protected by the First Amendment.

According to reports, students were required to turn their Black Lives Matter shirts inside out and not allowed to attend class unless they changed their clothes.

Students have the right to make political statements on school grounds, including the wearing of political messages on clothing, as long as they don’t substantially disrupt the activities of the school. That “substantially” is crucial to protecting students’ rights to express their opinions.

NCAC encourages Ardmore City Schools to reexamine its commitment to supporting its students in becoming citizens who engage in respectful civic discourse. It is true that expressing political views anywhere, including at school, can cause disputes between those who disagree. But Oklahoma state education standards call for students to become effective listeners and communicators; to demonstrate an understanding of the virtues that citizens should use when interacting with each other; and, more generally, to exhibit traits of good citizenship. NCAC is urging the district to clarify for its students that they have the right to express their views, and to disagree with others’ views, in any manner that does not substantially disrupt school.

https://ncac.org/news/oklahoma-black-lives-matter

 

[Robert]

Most SJWs do go quiet when you mention things like black people are responsible for three to four times more murders than white people and they wonder why the police are a bit more edgy when dealing with black people.

They hone in a statistic like how more blacks per population are killed by police by refuse to accept that blacks murder more people than whites by a large margin. They focus on 20 or so deaths by the police and ignore the thousands of deaths at the hands of blacks.

You have a good day too.

I don’t know any “SJWs” so I couldn’t comment. Though it sounds like the only decent humane thing to be.

Twenty is the grossest understatement I have ever heard. It’s thousands every year. And perhaps if the power structure had not oppressed blacks for centuries then blacks would be less likely to consider themselves in life or death situations when stopped.

While it is correct that blacks commit over 50% of all murders in USA this stat includes all the gang killings - Bloods vs Crips in LA, drug turf wars in Baltimore and so on. This is overwhelmingly black on black violence. It’s for black communities to sort out, but social disintegration and poverty as a result of centuries of oppression is hard to overcome.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Most SJWs do go quiet when you mention things like black people are responsible for three to four times more murders than white people and they wonder why the police are a bit more edgy when dealing with black people.

They hone in a statistic like how more blacks per population are killed by police by refuse to accept that blacks murder more people than whites by a large margin. They focus on 20 or so deaths by the police and ignore the thousands of deaths at the hands of blacks.

You have a good day too.

I don't know why SJWs go quiet ( I had to google it, never heard that acronym before) but if I was an SJW I would be asking why blacks are responsible for three to four times more murders. I assume it's not just because they are black?

 

[Gilly]

I don’t know any “SJWs” so I couldn’t comment. Though it sounds like the only decent humane thing to be.

Twenty is the grossest understatement I have ever heard. It’s thousands every year. And perhaps if the power structure had not oppressed blacks for centuries then blacks would be less likely to consider themselves in life or death situations when stopped.

While it is correct that blacks commit over 50% of all murders in USA this stat includes all the gang killings - Bloods vs Crips in LA, drug turf wars in Baltimore and so on. This is overwhelmingly black on black violence. It’s for black communities to sort out, but social disintegration and poverty as a result of centuries of oppression is hard to overcome.

I think you have been brainwashed by someone if you think that US police shoot thousands of blacks every year.

can you post some link to your claim.

 

[Gilly]

I don't know why SJWs go quiet ( I had to google it, never heard that acronym before) but if I was an SJW I would be asking why blacks are responsible for three to four times more murders. I assume it's not just because they are black?

Can you ever remember a news story covering the fact that blacks commit murder four times as much as whites?.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Can you ever remember a news story covering the fact that blacks commit murder four times as much as whites?.

Where do they commit four times as much murder as whites? Is that relevant to a particular nation or is it just a general global statistic?

 

[Gilly]

Where do they commit four times as much murder as whites? Is that relevant to a particular nation or is it just a general global statistic?

Statistics for the USA

Estimated number of arrests by offense and race, 2019
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter

whites 5,070 blacks 5,660

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Statistics for the USA

Estimated number of arrests by offense and race, 2019
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter

whites 5,070 blacks 5,660

So if these surveys are out there, I am assuming whoever commissioned them must have drawn some conclusions as to the reason for it. Any ideas been put forward about this?

 

[Gilly]

So if these surveys are out there, I am assuming whoever commissioned them must have drawn some conclusions as to the reason for it. Any ideas been put forward about this?

Well actually it not discussed as to why because you will be labelled as racist if you point out that blacks commit more murders than whites.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well actually it not discussed as to why because you will be labelled as racist if you point out that blacks commit more murders than whites.

So in that case what is the purpose of doing the survey in the first place? If the only marker is racial identity, then it is racist anyway.

 

[guna]

Where have BLM and Antifa and SJW's have gone these days is a million dollar question. They are awfully quiet since US election results were declared. No mass scale rioting or looting or establishing police free zones are on News.

Biden hai to Mumkin hai!

 

[Technics 1210]

Children in single-parent families by race in the United States

https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race

Almost 6M black children were raised by single parents, in 2019 alone. Out of roughly 40M blacks in the USA.

Lack of father figure in black communities is one if the main reasons why blacks are more likely to commit crime. Nothing to do with race, or social hardships of today.

Of course lack or role models and sense of identity also leads to gang culture, which is glorified by Rap/Hip Hop too - the biggest selling music genre in USA.

The missing black father is the problem.

 

[Firebat]

Patrisse Cullors: Black Lives Matter co-founder resigns

Black Lives Matter's co-founder says she is resigning from its foundation, but not because of what she called right-wing attempts to discredit her.

Patrisse Cullors said Friday would be her last day at the foundation, which she has led for nearly six years.

The 37-year-old activist's finances came under scrutiny last month after it was reported she owned four homes.

Black Lives Matter started as a hashtag in 2013 and has since become a global movement.

Ms Cullors said she would step down from the Black Lives Matter Global Network to focus on her forthcoming second book, An Abolitionist's Handbook, and a TV development deal with Warner Bros highlighting black stories.

In a statement, she said: "With smart, experienced and committed people supporting the organization during this transition, I know that BLMGNF is in good hands.

"The foundation's agenda remains the same - eradicate white supremacy and build life-affirming institutions."

Ms Cullors told the AP news agency her resignation had been planned for more than a year and was not related to claims that she had misused donations to acquire her property portfolio. There is no evidence to suggest that she had done so.

"Those were right-wing attacks that tried to discredit my character, and I don't operate off of what the right thinks about me," she said.

The BLM Foundation told AP in February that it had raised $90m (£63m) amid last year's racial justice protests following the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

The foundation said it ended 2020 with a balance of more than $60m, after operating expenses, grants to black-led organisations and other expenses.

Last month the New York Post reported that Ms Cullors - a self-described Marxist - had bought a $1.4m luxury home in Topanga Canyon, near Malibu, and owned three other homes, including a custom ranch in Georgia.

Facebook banned users from sharing the story, citing privacy concerns, and a black journalist said he was locked out of his Twitter account after he posted the article.

Conservative critics - but also some black activists - called for an investigation into whether Ms Cullors had used the organisation's funds to enrich herself.

In April the foundation said that Ms Cullors had received $120,000 between 2013 and 2019 for her work.

The Black Lives Matter Foundation said in a statement: "As a registered 501c3 non-profit organization, [the foundation] cannot and did not commit any organizational resources toward the purchase of personal property by any employee or volunteer.

"Any insinuation or assertion to the contrary is categorically false."

Ms Cullors appeared to hold back tears as she told the Black News Channel last month that suggestions of financial impropriety against her were "categorically untrue and incredibly dangerous".

The grieving parents of Michael Brown and Breonna Taylor - two African Americans whose deaths at the hands of white police officers were often cited by Black Lives Matter - last month reportedly complained the organisation had done nothing to help them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57277777

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Hundreds of armed gun club members from across the US, as well as the Black Panthers, marched in Tulsa to commemorate the victims of the Tulsa race massacre in Oklahoma.

The Tulsa race massacre took place May 31 and June 1, 1921, when mobs of White residents, many of them deputized and given weapons by city officials, attacked Black residents and businesses of the Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma, US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

 

[Gilly]

Not so good.

Black Lives Matter paid the co-founder’s baby daddy almost five times the amount the group doled out to the Trayvon Martin Foundation — a charity honoring the black youth whose 2012 death spearheaded the movement.

Patrisse Cullors, the former executive director and co-founder of Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, paid a company owned by Damon Turner $969,459 for “live production, design and media,” according to the group’s latest filings to the IRS. Turner’s for-profit company, which sells $145 sweatshirts on its web site and solicits donations for “the movement,” received the second highest payout the group made in fiscal year 2020, which covers July 1, 2020 to June 30, 2021.
BLMGNF’s biggest payout — $2,167,894 — went to Bowers Consulting Firm which is owned by current BLMGNF board member Shalomyah Bowers, a possible conflict of interest, charity experts said. The money was used for, among other things, “administrative support, general consulting, strategy, design…and staff management under the direction of the executive director,” according to the tax filing.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/17/blm-paid-co-founders-baby-daddy-far-more-than-trayvon-martin-group/

 

[KingKhanWC]

5 black cops murder a black man (Tyre Nichols) but according to this BLM spokesperson , it was because of racism and the ultimate blame goes on whites.

 

[sweep_shot]

5 black cops murder a black man (Tyre Nichols) but according to this BLM spokesperson , it was because of racism and the ultimate blame goes on whites.

LOL. Pure madness.

This is what modern day radical liberalism and radical wokeness is about. They don't seem to believe in individual responsibility.

 

[KingKhanWC]

LOL. Pure madness.

This is what modern day radical liberalism and radical wokeness is about. They don't seem to believe in individual responsibility.

What these black cops did to the victim was 10 x worse than what took place to Floyd, although both died its the circumstances im referring too.

Floyd was a drug addict, dangerous criminal who was resisting arrest. Tyre Nichols was pulled over, co-operated but was beaten to death by 5 cops. BLM havent marched in great numbers this time but some did claiming its the police in general not white fascism while others like this woman think because of so many white officers crimes, its institutional so blacks cops were brainwashed into doing this.

 

[Technics 1210]

What these black cops did to the victim was 10 x worse than what took place to Floyd, although both died its the circumstances im referring too.

Floyd was a drug addict, dangerous criminal who was resisting arrest. Tyre Nichols was pulled over, co-operated but was beaten to death by 5 cops. BLM havent marched in great numbers this time but some did claiming its the police in general not white fascism while others like this woman think because of so many white officers crimes, its institutional so blacks cops were brainwashed into doing this.

Her claim is mind boggling and I raised this point in the Floyd thread but no response.

This proves BLM is a racist organisation within itself, and I feel sorry fornthe family of Tyre Nichols, I really do. Poor guy was coming home after taking some photos, and gets stopped by 5 black cops, who beat gim to death, and the whites get the blame!

Unreal.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Her claim is mind boggling and I raised this point in the Floyd thread but no response.

This proves BLM is a racist organisation within itself, and I feel sorry fornthe family of Tyre Nichols, I really do. Poor guy was coming home after taking some photos, and gets stopped by 5 black cops, who beat gim to death, and the whites get the blame!

Unreal.

This tragic and awful incident has made the Floyd incident and the events after a little strange.

Its seems for damage control the Memphis dept has fired a white officer and some responders were also fired.

 

[Technics 1210]

This tragic and awful incident has made the Floyd incident and the events after a little strange.

Its seems for damage control the Memphis dept has fired a white officer and some responders were also fired.

IT proves one thing, the liberals are controlled by the ZMSM narrative.

 

[KingKhanWC]

IT proves one thing, the liberals are controlled by the ZMSM narrative.

Yep, the BLM founders are gay and now very rich.

Trump is making a comeback, they will need the black votes again, maybe even more. Expect some sort of event near the election again.

 

[Robert]

Where have BLM and Antifa and SJW's have gone these days is a million dollar question. They are awfully quiet since US election results were declared. No mass scale rioting or looting or establishing police free zones are on News.

Biden hai to Mumkin hai!

No Trump stirring up racism to revolt against
is why.

 

[Robert]

I think you have been brainwashed by someone if you think that US police shoot thousands of blacks every year.

can you post some link to your claim.

Ok it’s not thousands shot dead, though neither is it 20 blacks shot dead by police per year. It’s in the low 200 range.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

However they are proportionally more likely to be killed by police than whites - about three times as likely.

 

[The_KING]

BLM is a joke of an organisation who have their own agendas to fulfil, as they fool the gullible into thinking that they are some anti-racist organisation.

 

[Robert]

BLM is a joke of an organisation who have their own agendas to fulfil, as they fool the gullible into thinking that they are some anti-racist organisation.

Members of my family have attended BLM marches.

Just because a few individuals have been shown to be underhand and self-serving, if should not mean that a large popular movement in support of freedom and equality should be discredited.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Members of my family have attended BLM marches.

Just because a few individuals have been shown to be underhand and self-serving, if should not mean that a large popular movement in support of freedom and equality should be discredited.

There is no global conspiracy to suppress black people. They were oppressed in the past. But not in 2023. The profiling that happens on them is due to their own wrong doings. Their communities are riddled with drugs, unwed single moms, reckless kids, gangsta rap culture, disrespect for authority and illiteracy. Even immigrants from third world countries make it to middle class after the first generation while black folks stay in poverty and ghettos.
Until they learn to accept their shortcomings, no amount of white man bashing is going to help their situation. The white folk who support such organizations are indirectly supporting the victimhood narrative of black people.
There are rogue cops and the number of unarmed black victims by police brutality is same as white victims.

 

[Champ_Pal]

No Trump stirring up racism to revolt against
is why.

You are wrong. BLM and Antifa were aided by democrats to bring down Trump. Who do you think is funding these antisocial elements? The socialist dems.

 

[Robert]

There is no global conspiracy to suppress black people. They were oppressed in the past. But not in 2023. The profiling that happens on them is due to their own wrong doings. Their communities are riddled with drugs, unwed single moms, reckless kids, gangsta rap culture, disrespect for authority and illiteracy. Even immigrants from third world countries make it to middle class after the first generation while black folks stay in poverty and ghettos.
Until they learn to accept their shortcomings, no amount of white man bashing is going to help their situation. The white folk who support such organizations are indirectly supporting the victimhood narrative of black people.
There are rogue cops and the number of unarmed black victims by police brutality is same as white victims.

There is white supremacy. It’s not a global conspiracy, but a pervading attitude which affects the outcomes for black citizens in terms of education, justice provision and health care.

There is also centuries of generational trauma felt by black people in USA in particular. Immigrants from other countries are not handicapped by this.

 

[Robert]

You are wrong. BLM and Antifa were aided by democrats to bring down Trump. Who do you think is funding these antisocial elements? The socialist dems.

Are they?

Good.

 

[sweep_shot]

BLM is a joke of an organisation who have their own agendas to fulfil, as they fool the gullible into thinking that they are some anti-racist organisation.

BLM group is a joke. I agree. They have their own agendas. This movement doesn't help black people.

BLM is simply a far-left/communist group.

 

[Champ_Pal]

There is white supremacy. It’s not a global conspiracy, but a pervading attitude which affects the outcomes for black citizens in terms of education, justice provision and health care.

There is also centuries of generational trauma felt by black people in USA in particular. Immigrants from other countries are not handicapped by this.

There is no discrimination. The black students don't go to separate schools. They go to same schools as my kids and the rest of white kids. But they drop out after high school and get into illegal activities. The reasons for them? I have already mentioned in my previous post.

My ancestors were traumatized by British. Would you be okay if I use that as an excuse for my shortcomings?

 

[Technics 1210]

Why are BLM not protesting en-mass against the killing of Tyre Nichols by 5 black officers? Where is the Public and Media outcry we all witnessed with the Floyd case? Oh that's right, BLM activists blame whites for the actions of the black officers.

The hypocrisy, racism, and facism practised by BLM and its supporters is sickening and frankly criminal.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Why are BLM not protesting en-mass against the killing of Tyre Nichols by 5 black officers? Where is the Public and Media outcry we all witnessed with the Floyd case? Oh that's right, BLM activists blame whites for the actions of the black officers.

The hypocrisy, racism, and facism practised by BLM and its supporters is sickening and frankly criminal.

There are idiots who were blaming the systemic white racism that has affected the black police officers which led to the killing of Tyre Nichols.

 

[Robert]

There is no discrimination. The black students don't go to separate schools. They go to same schools as my kids and the rest of white kids. But they drop out after high school and get into illegal activities. The reasons for them? I have already mentioned in my previous post.

My ancestors were traumatized by British. Would you be okay if I use that as an excuse for my shortcomings?

False equivalence - as British Raj administrators do not run your country today.

There’s no *legal* discrimination. There is the constant pressure of social discrimination and micro aggressions, as well as institutional racism. Even in UK, black women are 400% more at risk from dying in childbirth than white women.

 

[Technics 1210]

There are idiots who were blaming the systemic white racism that has affected the black police officers which led to the killing of Tyre Nichols.

Yup, and it is embarrassing to read that white officers are being blamed for the behaviour of black officers in the case of Tyre Nichols.

When will the black community take responsibility themselves? They cannot rinse the victimhood excuse forever and keep blaming whites.

 

[Champ_Pal]

False equivalence - as British Raj administrators do not run your country today.

There’s no *legal* discrimination. There is the constant pressure of social discrimination and micro aggressions, as well as institutional racism. Even in UK, black women are 400% more at risk from dying in childbirth than white women.

There is generational trauma like you mentioned

I feel you will fit in very well with the SJW crowd I have seen. There will be some sort of discrimination at smaller levels from time to time. But they cannot determine the person's future or stop the person from becoming who he or she wants to become.

 

[Robert]

There is generational trauma like you mentioned

I feel you will fit in very well with the SJW crowd I have seen. There will be some sort of discrimination at smaller levels from time to time. But they cannot determine the person's future or stop the person from becoming who he or she wants to become.

I would hope so. A commitment to social justice is essential to good citizenship.

Think in terms of populations not individuals. Yes some will rise to the top like Madame Walker and Obama and de Grasse Tyson. But the bell curve of achievement is shifted left due institutional racism.

 

[sweep_shot]

Property controversies
In 2021, a controversy arose in some media outlets, following reports that Cullors (or entities associated with her) had purchased several homes during a five-year period.[65] Critics accused her of using the Black Lives Matter movement to enrich herself and accused her of being hypocritical for purchasing the houses as someone who identifies as a "Marxist".[65][66] Cullors denied any wrongdoing and defended her actions as an effort to take care of her family and described the criticism as an "effort to discredit and harass me and my family" by the political right. On April 13, the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation denied that it had paid for her purchases of real estate and said they had not paid her since 2019, adding that she had only received $120,000 since 2013 for carrying out her work related to the organization.[65][66][67][68]

Some BLM activists accused her of "monopolizing and capitalizing our fight." Ten local chapters of the Foundation claimed that Cullors became its executive director “against the will of most chapters and without their knowledge,” that chapter organizers were prevented from influencing the group's direction, and that the national organization provided little to no financial support for local chapters since its inception in 2013. Cullors resigned from leadership of the Foundation the next month, and later revealed psychological exhaustion from the controversy, stating that she was receiving treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder.[69]

In 2022, she denied allegations of misusing donations given to the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, but admitted that she hosted two parties at a mansion the BLM foundation purchased for $6 million, which she regretted.[70]

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrisse_Cullors#Property_controversies.

BLM co-founder bought some nice houses with the money. Check this out, [MENTION=149166]Technics 1210[/MENTION].

What a scumbag!

 

[daytrader]

Officer involved in Tyre Nichols arrest previously accused in assault of prison inmate
Demetrius Haley allegedly took part in a 2015 incident at a county prison that resulted in an entire cellblock writing a letter to the corrections director

Years before Memphis police officer Demetrius Haley pulled Tyre Nichols from his car on 7 January, setting in motion a deadly confrontation, Haley was accused of taking part in the savage beating of an inmate at a county prison.

The 2015 assault of the inmate was so disturbing that 34 others – the entire cellblock – signed a letter to the corrections director.

“We are truly asking that this matter gets looked into before someone gets hurt really bad or lose their life because of some unprofessional officers,” the letter stated.

The warning from dozens of inmates at the Shelby county prison is the clearest indication yet that one of the five officers who took part in the violent beating of Nichols had an event in his past that should have raised concerns before he was hired as a police officer. Nichols died three days after the beating.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...reviously-accused-in-assault-of-prison-inmate