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What to do with the 'Mankad' rule?

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Whether it's Keemo Paul mankading a Zimbabwe batsman at the Under-19 World Cup, Ravi Ashwin mankading Jos Buttler or the incident today where Mohammad Huraira was mankaded by the Afghan bowler - every instance seems to reignite this discussion and people have strong opinions on the topic.

There's a section of people who feel that the mode of dismissal isn't within the spirit of the game as it's considered a 'cheap' way of getting a wicket.

The counter-argument to that is that batsmen shouldn't be leaving their crease before the bowler delivers the ball as he gets an unfair advantage in terms of completing a run.

People feel pretty strongly about this. What's your view?
 
There is a stigma attached to Mankading because batsmen, as well as cricket fans, have been brainwashed into thinking that a bowler who Mankades a batsman is coming a crime against humanity.

The first step is for the ICC to launch a campaign and condition the batsmen and the fans into acknowledging that it is completely unacceptable for a batsmen to be standing outside the crease before the ball is bowled.

There is no need of giving a warning. It is an unacceptable thing to do and the batsmen should pay a price for it.

Run-outs are usually down to fine margins, and thus head-start of 2-3 inches can make all the difference in the end.

It has also been rightly pointed out by [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] that batsmen often suffer the brunt of Mankading when they are only backing up to avoid getting caught on their heels.

It is indeed true, but the solution is quite simple. Batsmen should stand a feet behind where they usually do. This would allow them to back up without leaving the crease.

As a result, they will not get Mankaded and they will not get caught on their heels either, and a bowler who then Mankades a batsman who doesn’t respect the line will not be treated like a criminal.

It is very important for batsmen and the fans to understand that it is completely unacceptable to be even an inch outside the crease before the ball is bowled.

It is very important to normalize this. Once the batsmen and the fans learn to appreciate the significance of the line, Mankading will be considered normal like stumping or run-outs in general.
 
I was umpiring a club match a few weeks ago and the bowler stopped in his run up to address the non striker. Told him to stop wondering out of the crease or he would run him out.

Batsman stopped taking a start and that was the end of that situation.

Had he ran him out the first time yes, it would have been out but it feels almost like a gut punch. There is no cricketing skill involved, and is quite cheap. If bowlers have an issue with it they should tell the batsman to stop, and usually that solves the issue of them taking a start.

How can you possibly take satisfaction in running a player out like that?
 
It’s ungentlemanly but within the Laws. If one team does it they can expect the same back. Live by the sword, die by it.
 
Aside from the one warning rule other thing which can be done is to take the mankad option away from the fielding side and rather the charge should be given to umpires to warn the batsmen or even give them out or give team a penalty just like they do with no balls, running on the pitch etc.

There is absolutely no skill involved in stopping on your deliver stride, waiting like and eagle and getting a wicket through mankadding.

Umpires should be looking at it to maintain a certain standard as some teams will go towards mankad while others wont so it wont be a standardized approach or penality but umpire will make sure that batsmen are not taking any extra liberty.

Also it doesn't make sense if a batsmen oversteps, he can loose his wicket while bowler is only charged one run penalty along with a free hit when he over steps. A wicket of a batsman is much more important than 1 or 7 runs in my opinion. So obviously rule needs to be adjusted.
 
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One warning seems fair. It has to be done like gentlemen. Not sure why people are justifying this rule using the 2-3 inches makes a difference argument.

It’s a gentleman’s game and respect is what matters, for both Batsmen and bowlers.
 
Even at school level i did not wander outside the crease. Nobody would dare to wander outside. At the international level batsmen wandering around is shocking. Defending that act is even more shocking.
 
Why must the bowler act like the gentleman but the batsman can gain an unfair advantage?

All the boards need to come together and state that mankading is part of the game and should no longer be viewed negatively.

In the shorter formats like T20 where a run can be so the crucial these small margins can give a big advantage to batting sides.
 
Why must the bowler act like the gentleman but the batsman can gain an unfair advantage?

All the boards need to come together and state that mankading is part of the game and should no longer be viewed negatively.

In the shorter formats like T20 where a run can be so the crucial these small margins can give a big advantage to batting sides.

Yes Not even fielders are allowed to move significantly once the bowler starts bowling. Why is non-striker getting a free pass.
 
Lol so batsmen get to happily steal singles before the bowler finds out and warns him?

A few steps made all the difference during WC 2019 finals super over.

Where do you draw the line though. What if there’s 1 ball left and 2 runs to win and the bowler attempts a mankad hoping that he gets lucky and replays show the bat is an inch outside the crease. Do we really want that to even be a possibility? It’s a bit like the no ball issue imo there’s no definitive way I can think of to solve it
 
Maybe they could use some sort of technology that tracks when the non striker has left the crease before the ball has been delivered. A specific number of auto generated warnings and the non striker is dismissed
 
Where do you draw the line though. What if there’s 1 ball left and 2 runs to win and the bowler attempts a mankad hoping that he gets lucky and replays show the bat is an inch outside the crease. Do we really want that to even be a possibility? It’s a bit like the no ball issue imo there’s no definitive way I can think of to solve it

Then it's out.

Game over.

Considering how much mankad has been talked about, being 1 inch outside your crease during a crucial delivery is a crime.

Like getting hit wicket due to backing up too much.

Batsmen can do one of 2 things in a crunch situation:

1. Start his walk a few steps behind the crease so he is well inside it when the delivery is bowled.

2. Or stay well outside the crease with his bat sliding in so he can take off the moment the ball leaves the bowler's hand.

Its really that simple.
 
Simple, stay in your crease.

I hope the Pak senior team uses it during a tense situation.
 
One warning seems fair. It has to be done like gentlemen. Not sure why people are justifying this rule using the 2-3 inches makes a difference argument.

It’s a gentleman’s game and respect is what matters, for both Batsmen and bowlers.

Well, you're only saying that because Pak team was at the receiving end.

Would've been saying the opposite and how 2-3 inches DO matter if it were Pak team that got IND batsman out in a crunch situation.

Using emotions to post.

Fact is those 3-4 inches matter a lot.
 
It's batsmen fault for leaving the crease early to cheat for runs, which isn't fair.
 
If by law you're required to run 20 yards or whatever the distance between the two creases is, after the ball is released, then you run that much. If you're trying to gain unfair advantage by a yard or even a centimeter which could be the difference between your bat being on the line or inside, then as a batsman you're cheating and in violation of the law. Why is the bowler made the villain when the batsman is deliberately or not trying to cheat.
Do you not get a traffic ticket when you're going over the speed limit even if you didn't realize you were going faster than you were supposed to? Mistakes happen, so there are laws to cover for them!
 
Lol so batsmen get to happily steal singles before the bowler finds out and warns him?

A few steps made all the difference during WC 2019 finals super over.

What do you mean “if the bowler finds out”?

If such a rule is made then the teams will look more carefully at the batsmen.

If the bowler takes 10 overs to figure out whether or not the batsman is leaving his crease early or not then the bowler has pretty poor match awareness
 
Well, you're only saying that because Pak team was at the receiving end.

Would've been saying the opposite and how 2-3 inches DO matter if it were Pak team that got IND batsman out in a crunch situation.

Using emotions to post.

Fact is those 3-4 inches matter a lot.

If this if that.

You’re just assuming that he would do something.

If 3-4 inches matter a lot then the bowler should keep an eye on the batsman and if they are taking unfair advantage then they should be warned.
 
What do you mean “if the bowler finds out”?

If such a rule is made then the teams will look more carefully at the batsmen.

If the bowler takes 10 overs to figure out whether or not the batsman is leaving his crease early or not then the bowler has pretty poor match awareness

So the onus is on the bowler to find out theft fast, then warn batsmen and then if he still doesn't comply... Run him out?

Why?

It's a gentleman's game I guess. :))

I guess cheating batsmen don't count as ungentlemanly. :D
 
Had NZ stole a single run somewhere, the WC 2019 would hav changed hands.

Just 1 run.

Let that sink folks.

Mankading should strike fear in the hearts of batsmen to the point where they should be shamed for getting out that way.
 
Had NZ stole a single run somewhere, the WC 2019 would hav changed hands.

Just 1 run.

Let that sink folks.

Mankading should strike fear in the hearts of batsmen to the point where they should be shamed for getting out that way.

It's not a careless mistake anymore unlike what what happened to the kid in Lagaan. :P

Batsmen were warned for this stuff back in 80s.

If you don't change your act after 30 years, you should be penalised for it.
 
I wish we had done that to Stokes.

Ultimate heel turn.
 
It is a stupid rule.

I propose replacing this with penalty system. If a batsman leaves the crease, 1 run is deducted.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Have never been a fan of this mode of dismissal, didn’t ever encourage my bowlers to do this, neither at the U19 WC nor while captaining my State side.<br>This may be legal, but so was the Trevor Chappell underarm, right? <br><br>Reckon the <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ICC</a> will have to look at the law at some point. <a href="https://t.co/PmB1HE5C1L">https://t.co/PmB1HE5C1L</a></p>— Mohammad Kaif (@MohammadKaif) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohammadKaif/status/1223499313357000704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow.... very welldone to this bowler showing of his skill&#55358;&#56622;. Maybe we could see more of this at the next u/19 World Cup, so good for the game! We need to look after the game we love and the next generation competing in this way is is worrying. <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ICC</a> <a href="https://t.co/4T9f7Rp18z">https://t.co/4T9f7Rp18z</a></p>— Roelof van der Merwe (@Roela52) <a href="https://twitter.com/Roela52/status/1223297277168619521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The 'Mankad' is a thoroughly fair, legal act,... Also changed in 2017 was an important aspect of the law. Previously, the bowler was only permitted to run out a non-striker backing up before entering his delivery stride.</p>— Dean Headley (@deanheadley585) <a href="https://twitter.com/deanheadley585/status/1223522477646712837?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2020</a></blockquote>
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if a batsman at the non-striker's end is leaving the crease before the bowler has released the ball, he is not following the spirit of the game and should not seek empathy if he is run out, reckons ICC match referee and former India pacer Javagal Srinath. India off-spinner Ravichandran Ashwin courted controversy when he ran out Jos Buttler during last year's IPL as the England batsman backed up too far. The act triggered the age-old debate on the bowler's conduct in such dismissals.

Srinath does not feel that the bowler is wrong if he runs out a batsman in this fashion.

"The bowler is focusing on the batsman. For the batsman (at the non-striker's end) to stick to his crease till the ball is released is no big deal, because he's not batting, nor is he thinking of anything else," Srinath told Ashwin on his Youtube show ''DRS With Ash".

Delhi Capitals head coach Ricky Ponting feels that the bowler violates the spirit of the game by this dismissal and he would not allow Ashwin to do it.

Ashwin, who captained Kings XI Punjab last year, will play for Delhi Capitals in this year's IPL, scheduled to be held in UAE from September 19.

"So the batsman shouldn't leave the crease and the bowler should focus on just bowling and the batsman he's going to bowl to. If the batsman is taking undue advantage, and if he's involved in a run out, I am fine. I am perfectly okay with that," Srinath said.

India's former pace mainstay said the rules state that the onus is on the batsman to stay inside the crease till the ball has been released.

"Don't look for any empathy. Don't invoke the spirit of the game. The spirit of the game is with the runner. He cannot move out of the crease. If he is doing it, he's not invoking the spirit of the game itself. I would believe that the batsman should stick to the crease."

The former India pacer said if the non-striker is leaving the crease he is taking undue advantage and it can have an impact on the outcome of a close game in an unfair manner.

"Even if the batsman has inadvertently left the crease, and it happens to be the last ball of the match where there's a run-out (chance) with the batsman in by an inch, but he has already taken three foot forward before the ball has been delivered, the result is unfair," Srinath said.

"One of the teams will probably pay for it. I would like to see a balance here," he added.

Srinath said he would want the batsman to stay in the crease and be more careful. Look into the arm of the bowler and let himself go only after the ball is released.

"It cannot be that he's gaining four to five feet advantage every ball. In T20, every ball matters. How many games go to the last ball?" he asked.

Ashwin has backed his decision and also found support from Delhi Capitals co-owner Parth Jindal

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/don...-javagal-srinath-2288474?pfrom=home-sshowcase
 
Ricky Ponting remains at odds with R Ashwin on the contentious issue of 'Mankading' but proposes introducing a one-run penalty for batsmen backing up too far at the non-striker's end for stealing a single.

The Delhi Capitals coach, a legend of the game and a staunch critic of the practice named after former India all-rounder Vinoo Mankad, backed the senior India off-spinner when he asked if the batsman should also be penalised for leaving his crease at the non-striker's end before a ball is delivered.

Ashwin, who will turn out for Delhi Capitals in the upcoming IPL in the UAE, asked Ponting: "Now no balls are being looked at very closely, every single ball of a T20 game... Can the batsman also be reprimanded on a similar line if he crosses the line?"

Ponting responded in the positive.

"I think so," the Australian great said.

"There should be some sort of run penalty. Like if you are to get to the top of your bowling action and stop, and it shows that the batsman is cheating, he is out of his crease, I think put a run penalty on him.

"... And do it right from the start, because that will stop him straightaway. Imagine taking 10 runs off the team total because you have taken a yard out of your crease. It's got to be... those sort of things need to be looked at."

The issue became a talking point when Ponting, head coach of Ashwin's team Delhi Capitals, said he would have a discussion with the bowler on the controversial manner of getting a batsman out.

Ashwin ran out England's Jos Buttler at the non-striker's end last season when he backed up too far, drawing criticism for his act as many called it against the spirit of the game.

Ashwin, who called himself a "serial run out guy", again made it clear that he "couldn't take the batsmen taking those extra yards"

"I feel it's a massive advantage (for batsmen)," Ashwin, who started out as a batsman in junior cricket, told Ponting.

The two-time World Cup winning captain responded, "I totally get where you're coming from. And that's what I said. I wasn't trying to say that you were justified, because actually in the course of the game, you can't do it.

"So if the batsmen is cheating and trying to pinch a couple of yards, then honestly, we have got to find a way around, trying to make the batsmen stop cheating.

"We have had this conversation already. I don't want to see anyone running two or three yards down the wicket. That basically is cheating."

Ponting had said earlier he will have a "hard conversation" with Ashwin and won't allow him to repeat the act at Delhi Capitals since it was "not within the spirit of the game".

On his Youtube channel, Ashiwn said, "The moment I did that, the spirit of cricket was brought into play. All this is fine what we should know what the spirit of cricket is."

Moved out of India due to rising cases of COVID-19, the 13th edition of the world's biggest T20 league will be held across three venues in the UAE from September 19 to November 10.

The ace spinner also gave a lowdown on life in a bio-bubble.

"It's been really boring, we are really looking forward to getting our balls and bats. Basically it's the same room and place, a six-day quarantine. It's really difficult.

"But our team, Delhi Capitals, have done a brilliant thing. Our team captain Shreyas Iyer loves magic. He has been doing that on social media a lot. A Zoom call with a magician was organised to engage us. It was 45 minutes of everyone having fun.

"In fact, our coach Ricky Ponting was also there, and he enjoyed it too. It was a good break. Also, COVID tests. They break our noses with nasal swabs at least twice a week. It's very painful."

The players and support staff underwent a mandatory six-day quarantine after arriving in the UAE and will be tested every five days during their stay here.

"Apart from that, there are many protocols. We have this dog leash kind of thing. We can't leave our rooms without it. It's to track our movement. This is basically and alarm of sorts when players are in proximity, and to stop us from forming crowds.

"If we do, this alerts officials, and we will get a call to disperse. They said this also triggers an alarm."

"They explained this to all of us on a Zoom call. Someone asked will wife too need one, since she is touring with him. They said it's a mandate for this bio-bubble, for wives, children, or anyone else.

"So he replied, 'but we will be in the same room and nearby all the time'. We all died laughing."


https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...n-on-mankading-but-agrees-with-penalty/359736
 
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Dawlat Zadran's dismissal of Noor Ali Zadran at the non-striker's end during a clash in Afghanistan's Shpageeza Cricket League.
 
[PICTURE/VIDEO] Mitchell Starc does not Mankad Adil Rashid, lets him off with warning in the 3rd ODI

Mitchell Starc gave Adil Rashid a warning to get back in his crease instead of running him out at the non-striker’s end in the 49th over of the English innings in the 3rd ODI vs Australia on Wednesday.

Rashid had smashed Starc for a six two balls before this. He was out of his crease at the non-striker’s end, as England looked to add as many runs as they could at the end of their innings. Starc, who could have knocked off Rashid’s bails to ‘Mankad’ him out, did not. Instead, he pulled up in his bowling action and told Rashid to stay in his crease.

England went on to post 302/7 in their 50 overs.

Starc has previously made his stance on the ‘Mankad’ very clear. The mode of dismissal has two distinct camps even in the Australian team, as had been shown in a team interview video earlier this year. While some like Pat Cummins and Adam Zampa have said they are for the Mankad, Starc has always said he will not run out the non-striker while in his delivery stride.

Incidentally, Shikhar Dhawan, on his Test debut, had been unintentionally Mankaded by Starc, with the ball slipping out of his hands. However, Australia had not appealed and Dhawan had carried on batting.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...rc-does-not-mankad-adil-rashid-watch-6598792/


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good sportsmanship from Mitchell Starc. Warned Adil Rashid instead of doing a Mankad <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvAUS</a> <a href="https://t.co/jg58e6DgLY">pic.twitter.com/jg58e6DgLY</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1306272766119874560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Mitchell Starc gave Adil Rashid a warning to get back in his crease instead of running him out at the non-striker’s end in the 49th over of the English innings in the 3rd ODI vs Australia on Wednesday.

Rashid had smashed Starc for a six two balls before this. He was out of his crease at the non-striker’s end, as England looked to add as many runs as they could at the end of their innings. Starc, who could have knocked off Rashid’s bails to ‘Mankad’ him out, did not. Instead, he pulled up in his bowling action and told Rashid to stay in his crease.

England went on to post 302/7 in their 50 overs.

Starc has previously made his stance on the ‘Mankad’ very clear. The mode of dismissal has two distinct camps even in the Australian team, as had been shown in a team interview video earlier this year. While some like Pat Cummins and Adam Zampa have said they are for the Mankad, Starc has always said he will not run out the non-striker while in his delivery stride.

Incidentally, Shikhar Dhawan, on his Test debut, had been unintentionally Mankaded by Starc, with the ball slipping out of his hands. However, Australia had not appealed and Dhawan had carried on batting.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...rc-does-not-mankad-adil-rashid-watch-6598792/


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good sportsmanship from Mitchell Starc. Warned Adil Rashid instead of doing a Mankad <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvAUS</a> <a href="https://t.co/jg58e6DgLY">pic.twitter.com/jg58e6DgLY</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1306272766119874560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2020</a></blockquote>
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But would he have done this if roy or buttler were at the crease
 
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Caribbean Premier League (CPL) 2021 has been a thrilling tournament so far. In the first week itself, the tournament has had some amazing encounters between the teams. From Andre Russell’s fastest fifty in the history of CPL to Universe Boss Chris Gayle smashing a window glass. There have been several exciting moments. Meanwhile, now fans have witnessed a heartwarming moment between Dwayne Bravo and Mohammad Hafeez.

The heartwarming incident happened during the fifth match of CPL On Saturday. The match was between Guyana Amazon Warriors & St Kitts and Nevis Patriots. The star West Indies all-rounder Dwayne Bravo keeps winning the heart of fans with his performance on the field. However this time Bravo has done something else, as he showed amazing sportsmanship which left everyone in awe.

Guyana Amazon Warriors got the opportunity to bat first and they were at 134/8 in 19 overs. Star Pakistan cricketer Mohammad Hafeez was at unbeaten 28 on the non-striker’s end. Star West Indies all-rounder Dwayne Bravo came up to bowl the 20th over of the match and started with a wide delivery. Meanwhile, the second delivery he bowled was a dot delivery to Ashmead Nedd. Mohammad Hafeez was desperately waiting for his turn to bat so he left the crease before Dwyane Bravo released the ball from his hand. This gave Bravo a big opportunity to pick the wicket by dismissing Hafeez. However, Bravo decided not to Mankad Hafeez and he was seen laughing and hugging his counterpart. Fans enjoyed the moment as Bravo gave the warning in a style to Hafeez.

Meanwhile, Mohammad Hafeez finally got the opportunity to bat against Bravo in the final over. And he went berserk after surviving the mankad. Hafeez smashed Bravo for back-to-back boundaries. The Pakistan cricketer ended his knock at the score of 38*. This led his team to put a decent score of 146/8 at the end of 20 overs.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/cpl-2021-watch-dwayne-bravo-054309442.html
 
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Once is a mistake. Twice might be careless. But four 'Mankads' in an innings?

You'd think the batters would learn their lesson.

Not that Cameroon bowler Maeva Douma was bothered.

The 16-year-old seamer dismissed four Uganda batters as they backed up at the non-striker's end in a Women's T20 World Cup Africa Region qualifier in Botswana.

It is a record for an international match and will surely reopen the debate on whether the mode of dismissal - named after India bowler Vinoo Mankad, who ran out Australia batsman Bill Brown in a similar manner in 1947 - is within the spirit of the game.

Douma had already bowled opener Prosscovia Alako with her second delivery by the time she returned for a second spell.

When Kevin Awino walked out of her crease in the 16th over, Douma stopped in her delivery stride and whipped off the bails. When Rita Musamali followed suit three balls later, Douma did the same.

She wasn't finished there.

In the final over of the innings captain Immaculate Nakisuuyi and Janet Mbabazi also went walkabout, and Douma had no hesitation in running them out too.

Not that it helped Cameroon much.

They were bowled out for a paltry 35 in pursuit of 191 as they slipped to a 155-run defeat in their first T20 game. Douma scored one.

The most famous recent example of a Mankad was Kings Xi Punjab's Ravichandran Ashwin running out Rajasthan Royals' Jos Buttler in an Indian Premier League match in 2019.

Law 41.16 states: "If the non-striker is out of his/her ground from the moment the ball comes into play to the instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, the bowler is permitted to attempt to run him/her out."
 
Should only be permitted after a warning
Why? are the batsmen unaware of the rules of the game? Is a bowler called for overstepping only after a warning? Are batsmen dismissed only after a warning that they may not let the ball crash into their pads when they are before a wicket?

If you must try to sneak an advantage by departing the crease before the release of the delivery, prepare to take the consequences.
 
The rule is there for a reason otherwise what prevents the runner-up from being at the center of the pitch as the ball is being bowled. There are numerous last ball or last over finishes where the outcome could have been different in the absence of this rule. The runner-up should respect it otherwise be prepared to be mankaded and sent back. Nothing unsportsmanlike about it and no need to shame the bowler.
 
With time, I have changed my views on this. The non striker should simply stay in their crease or risk facing the consequences.
 
https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2255931/featured

Maeva Douma was thrown into the cricket world’s spotlight this week. Her performance for Cameroon against Uganda in the ICC Women's T20 World Cup Africa Qualifier, supported by Dream11, led to global media coverage.

The 16-year old fast bowler effected the run-outs of four batters — Kevin Awino, Rita Musamali, Immaculate Nakisuuyi and Janet Mbabazi — at the non-striker's end in the match in Botswana.

Uganda went on to score 190/6 in their innings before Cameroon were bowled out for 35.

Despite generating a lot of conversation and becoming a trending topic on social media, Douma has no regrets, with the dismissal completely legal and within the laws of the game.

The dismissals were not pre-planned, she said, adding that it occurred to her to exploit the tactic after watching the Ugandan batters stepping out of the crease repeatedly before deliveries.

"When I got into the tournament, I did not really focus on using it as a tactic," she told the ICC. "But as the game was going on, I realised that the batters were hardly in their base, and thought, 'Why shouldn't I use this opportunity' to get the players out? It wasn't really a strategy, but I saw it as an opening."

The mode of dismissal has divided the cricket world over the years. It's a legal method to dismiss an erring batter, but it has been scoffed at by some quarters, with the dismissal being deemed against the spirit of the game. Douma is firmly in the camp of the former.

"I think it is a good tactic to use, especially if you have an opponent such as that and it is difficult to get the batter on strike out. If you can see that the non-striker can be eliminated through that, then it is a beautiful opportunity to use.”

Her teammates backed her too.

"We got to talk about it as a team, since we saw the opening and we had to discuss it, especially after the first one (first run-out)," she said. "So we saw that if we had more opportunities, then that's what we are going to use throughout the game. And as a team, I got a lot of encouragement."

Maeva is only beginning her journey as an international cricketer. An all-rounder by trade, she has taken great strides in her career so far, impressing with her maturity and composure.

“I saw people playing cricket where I live and approached them," she said, when asked how her journey began.

"I then got into a cricket club back in my country. Even in school, they used to play cricket, so I really loved the sport and continued practising, and here I am right now."

Her story follows the path of many aspiring cricketers in Cameroon, a country in which the sport is slowly, but steadily, gaining a lot of traction.

"Cricket is becoming more and more popular in Cameroon," she said. "Not only that but equally in the schools where the sport is being practised. We also have the beautiful opportunity where we are participating in the T20 over here (ICC T20 World Cup Africa Region Qualifier), which is seen all over the world. So it is gaining more and more popularity."

Douma also believes the tournament in Botswana is a big opportunity for her, as well as the whole team, to improve their skills.

"Participating in a tournament like this does not only make me proud of representing my country but equally, I get to learn a lot," she said.

"As the game was going on, I realised that the batters were hardly in their base, and thought, 'Why shouldn't I use this opportunity?'"

"The pitches, the fields that we are playing in, the pre-game practice. We also get to gain a lot of experience from playing against teams that have been playing for years. So I have really learnt a lot and continue to from the matches that I am playing in."

On her personal development, Douma views herself primarily as a bowler but is determined to up her game in the batting department. "Between batting and bowling, I really, really love bowling more. Because that's the first thing I picked up while playing cricket. As much as I love bowling, I do aspire to perfect myself as a batter."

Ambitious by nature, Douma has set some high targets for herself moving ahead.

"I dream of becoming a much better player, not only for my national team but also in professional teams outside," she said. "I look forward to working towards that and bettering my game so that I can attain my dreams."
 
'Absolutely pathetic': Test bowler's divisive act stuns cricket world

England bowler Craig Overton has reignited controversy around cricket's 'Mankad' dismissal in the County Championship.

The Test seamer was in action for Somerset against Warwickshire on Monday and cut a frustrated figure as he failed to pick up a wicket.

Overton finished the day with figures of 0-57 and let his temper boil over in the final session.

Overton attempted to take off the bails before delivering the ball in the hope of catching Lamb leaving his crease early.

The method of dismissal is legal under ICC laws but widely despised in the cricket world.

According to reports, Overton had previously warned Lamb that he was creeping out of his ground.

The on-field umpire asked Somerset captain Tom Abell if he wanted to proceed with the appeal, but Abell declined and Lamb was spared.

Overton was booed by those in attendance, while others slammed him on social media.

Cricket world divided over controversial 'Mankad'
The 'Mankad' was thrust back into the spotlight recently when Cameroon bowler Maeva Douma affected four in a T20 Women's World Cup qualifier.

With Uganda cruising at 1-153, Douma decided to mix things up and pulled out the controversial tactic.

However the teen bowler sparked condemnation because she didn't warn any of the batsmen and appeared to deceive them into thinking she had bowled the ball.

The dismissal has divided players and fans over the years with many in the cricket community arguing it is against the spirit of the game.

Australian legend Ricky Ponting was coach of the Dehli Capitals when he told his players in no uncertain terms that he is not a fan of the dismissal at last year's IPL.

Mitchell Starc was also praised during an ODI against England last year when he opted not to dismiss Adil Rashid when he left his crease.

The issue has become increasingly divisive as cricket has heavily leaned towards a batsman's game over the last decade.

Coined over 70 years ago, the term 'Mankad' comes from Indian great Vinoo Mankad, who twice ran out Bill Brown at the non-striker’s end in Australia in 1947.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/cricket-2021-craig-overton-pathetic-act-stuns-fans-014201599.html
 
Imo.. The best possible thing to do...
If batsmen leaves the crease before the delivery is bowled and batsmen takes the run with head start then that should be given as short run..
Already third umpire checking the no balls.. With side on angle its pretty easy to check whether bowlers or batter crosses the line at a time..
 
If the batsman at the bowling end leaves the crease ahead of time, he is taking undue advantage. In other words, he is breaking the rule of a fair game. Ridiculing a bowler for stopping a batsman from breaking the rule is just not right. Covering the unsportsmanlike conduct of the batsman under the "Cricket is gentleman's game" carpet is ironic.
 
If the batsman at the bowling end leaves the crease ahead of time, he is taking undue advantage. In other words, he is breaking the rule of a fair game. Ridiculing a bowler for stopping a batsman from breaking the rule is just not right. Covering the unsportsmanlike conduct of the batsman under the "Cricket is gentleman's game" carpet is ironic.

Exactly. The batsman is trying to take an advantage. So if he wants to take the risk, bowler should be able to catch him out & dismiss him.

If the batsman wants to leave his crease to the spinner, he takes his risk and doesn't get a warning before he is stumped.

Why does every "unspoken rule" in cricket favour batsmen? Goes back to the old "amateur gentlemen" being batsman vs the working class bowlers.

The bowler gets no warning these days on a no ball- if the video picks him up it's straight no ball & potentially no wicket/free hit.

Far simpler & clearer if we simply expect the batsman to abide by the rules & he risks dismissal if he doesn't...
 
Exactly. The batsman is trying to take an advantage. So if he wants to take the risk, bowler should be able to catch him out & dismiss him.

If the batsman wants to leave his crease to the spinner, he takes his risk and doesn't get a warning before he is stumped.

Why does every "unspoken rule" in cricket favour batsmen? Goes back to the old "amateur gentlemen" being batsman vs the working class bowlers.

The bowler gets no warning these days on a no ball- if the video picks him up it's straight no ball & potentially no wicket/free hit.

Far simpler & clearer if we simply expect the batsman to abide by the rules & he risks dismissal if he doesn't...

Agree with you 100%. Also, the bowler by running the batsman out is not committing any crime. He is just ensuring a fair contest.
 
The problem with allowing batsmen to be declared out is that it's not possible for batsmen at bowlers end to track bowler's hand, he's looking down the pitch and not at the bowler. Plus someone like Ashwin will then try to dodge runners by not releasing the ball as per his normal action and only focus on getting them run out. Best way as someone suggested on this forum is calling it a short run. Once that rule comes, batsmen will themselves be careful to not leave the crease early and make it an advantage for themselves.
 
As per MCC clarifications

The Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) has announced a number of changes to the rules of the game, including an attempt to remove the stigma from so-called "Mankad" dismissals.

Key points:

The MCC says the "are intended to shape the game of cricket as it should be played"
Other changes include making new batters come in at the striker's end even if the batters cross during a catch
The changes are being announced early to give umpires and officials time to learn the new code

The changes — suggested by the MCC rules sub-committee, which dictates the rules of the game worldwide — have now been approved and will come into effect on October 1.

"The changes are intended to shape the game of cricket as it should be played," the MCC said in a statement.

The colloquial term Mankad, named after Indian cricketer Vinoo Mankad, refers to a bowler running out the batsman at the non-striker's end when the batsman leaves his crease before the bowler's delivery stride is finished.

"Law 41.16 — running out the non-striker — has been moved from Law 41 (Unfair play) to Law 38 (Run out)," the MCC said.

"The wording of the law remains the same."

The Mankad has been debated since a Test match between Australia and India in 1947, in which Mankad ran out Australia's Bill Brown after a number of warnings to remain in his crease.

Supporters of the rule say the onus should be on the batsman to hold his ground rather than trying to gain an unfair advantage, while opponents say the mode of dismissal is against the spirit of the game.

"The bowler is always painted as the villain but it is a legitimate way to dismiss someone and it is the non-striker who is stealing the ground," MCC laws manager Fraser Stewart told the Times newspaper.

"It is legitimate, it is a run-out and therefore it should live in the run-out section of the laws.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03...e-balls-move-mankads-from-fair-play/100894400
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So the Mankad is no longer unfair & is now a legitimate dismissal. <br><br>Hasn’t it always been a legitimate dismissal & whether it is unfair is subjective? <br><br>I think it is unfair & wouldn’t consider it, as IMO, dismissing a batter is about skill & the Mankad requires zero skill. <a href="https://t.co/TuVLuHNDLn">https://t.co/TuVLuHNDLn</a></p>— Stuart Broad (@StuartBroad8) <a href="https://twitter.com/StuartBroad8/status/1501519403279597570?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Thats a stupid argument by Stuart Broad - there are several modes of dismissal which arent about skill - eg. hit wiicket or handling the ball. A mankading is actually a punishment to the batsmen for leaving a crease rather than a wicket gained by the bowling team & it should be treated as such. Maybe dont credit it to the bowler like the runout?
 
Personally I think the Mankad is unsportsmanlike if it’s done on the first attempt, but following a clear warning that the batter will be run out if his conduct continues, then the bowler should have the subsequent right to perform a Mankad afterwards on the same batter and not be frowned upon. My personal opinion.
 
Personally I think the Mankad is unsportsmanlike if it’s done on the first attempt, but following a clear warning that the batter will be run out if his conduct continues, then the bowler should have the subsequent right to perform a Mankad afterwards on the same batter and not be frowned upon. My personal opinion.

The onus is now on the batsman to not leave the crease before the ball delivery is complete - the rule change has rightly taken away the stigma from the bowler for following the rules while the batsmen would earlier get away with running a short run. And there is no necessity for a warning by bowlers - its not their job to enforce the batsmen to follow the rules of the game, especially when the umpires are out there in the middle.
 
Despite this week's ruling by cricket's laws' custodian that the run out of batters backing up too far is no longer deemed 'unfair play', David Warner maintains the act that became known as a 'Mankad' remains outside the game's spirit.

Warner famously and wordlessly made his views known on the controversial practice two weeks after India spinner Ravichandran Ashwin had ignited another debate about the tactic's legitimacy (or otherwise) by dismissing England's Jos Buttler in an Indian Premier League fixture in 2019.

Ashwin had stopped as he prepared to deliver a ball for Kings XI Punjab against Rajasthan Royals and removed the bowler's end bails with Buttler having walked out of his crease, an act that provoked outrage among former players ranging from "completely out of order" to "disgraceful".

When Warner's Sunrisers Hyderabad came up against Kings XI two weeks later, the Australian made an exaggerated point of keeping his bat safely behind the crease line as Ashwin sent down his opening delivery, further fanning the controversy.

But with this week's decision by Marylebone Cricket Club – upholders of the game's laws – to re-classify the act from law 41's 'unfair play' and incorporate it within law 38 pertaining to run outs, the infamy heaped upon bowlers who dare to enact a 'Mankad' should be consigned to history.

However, Warner noted today that while batter's who seek to gain advantage by moving out of the non-striker's end crease before a bowler has released the ball (in line with the run-out law) only have themselves to blame if dismissed, he continues to view it as a moral issue.

"I still think the history of the game suggests it's a spirit of cricket thing," Warner said from Karachi where Australia's second Test against Pakistan begins later this week.

"You don't expect players to do that.

"I do agree with the fact that if you are backing up, and you're out of your crease by a long way (you are fair game).

"I think it happened more predominantly at the end of a white-ball 50-over games, or obviously in T20 cricket we've seen it but at the end of the day, as a batsman, you've got to stay in your crease.

"There's no doubt about that, and if you're silly enough to get caught out like that and run out, that's your own fault.

"You're told not to leave before the bowler lets the ball go, so just don't do it."

Warner also found an unlikely ally for his view – England fast bowler Stuart Broad, who has dismissed the Australia opener more times in Tests (14) than any other rival.

Responding to the MCC's announcement on Twitter, Broad noted "hasn't it always been a legitimate dismissal and whether it is unfair is subjective?" before adding he would not engage in the practice as a bowler because it "requires zero skill".

In confirming the latest update of the game's laws – the International Cricket Council enforces those laws, but only holds autonomy over regulations and playing conditions – the MCC conceded it represented a small change but addressed a significant point of principle.

"The bowler is always painted as the villain but it is a legitimate way to dismiss someone and it is the non-striker who is stealing the ground," the MCC's laws manager Fraser Stewart told The Times newspaper in the UK.

"It is legitimate, it is a run-out and therefore it should live in the run-out section of the laws."

Among the transgressions still incorporated under law 41 'unfair play' are changing the condition of the match ball, deliberately attempting to distract or deceive a batter, time wasting and deliberate bowling of dangerous full-tosses or front-foot no-balls.

What hasn't changed, as it is not covered in the game's laws, is the nomenclature around the now-reclassified practice of which many cricket fans as well as members of the affected family take a dim view.

The bowler's end run-out gained its label from legendary former India allrounder Vinoo Mankad who twice ran out Australia opener Bill Brown at the non-striker's end – once in a tour game against an Australia XI at the SCG in 1947, and then again in the second Test of the ensuing series.

But while debate also rages as to why the practice never became known as a 'Brown' given it was the batter who was in breach of the laws in those enduring examples, Warner's other misgiving is that the ploy not be used as a tactic.

As Ashwin showed in the following year's IPL after the Buttler incident, when he again stopped in his action and issued a warning with Australia limited-overs captain Aaron Finch (playing for Royal Challengers Bangalore) out of his ground, the game stalls every time a 'Mankad' is threatened.

And Warner does not believe the switch from 'unfair' to 'legitimate' will stop some players from employing it simply to make a point.

"I think what's important for the game of cricket is that bowlers don't be looking for that, because then you're going to slow the game down even more," he said.

"I know from before, being a captain, it can be frustrating and you're taking time out of the game.

"So there's some areas there that need to be addressed, but that's on an individual basis."

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/dav...ipl-sunrisers-kings-xi-unfair-play/2022-03-10
 
Taking the Michael?

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Months after MCC legitimising the dismissal, Deepak Chahar emulated Ashwin in the third and final ODI against Zimbabwe in Harare. Coming in to bowl the very first delivery, he casually knocked over the bails when Innocent Kaia was well out of his crease. Chahar, however, didn't appeal in what transpired as just a warning to the opposition batter, who strolled forward at the non-striker's end.

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The Royal Challengers Bangalore (RCB) vs Lucknow Super Giants (LSG) match in the Indian Premier League (IPL) could've ended differently if Harshal Patel hadn't missed running out Ravi Bishnoi at the non-striker's end before the last delivery of the match. Harshal's miss proved costly as Lucknow scored the remaining one run on the final ball to win the match. But, the incident has sparked the age-old debate over non-striker run-out again. After commentator Harsha Bhogle asked if anyone still finds the form of dismissal wrong, Ben Stokes floated a 'controversy-free' idea.

Stokes idea

Umpires discretion.. 6 penalty runs if obviously trying to gain unfair advantage by leaving crease early? Would stop batters doing it without all the controversy"

Do you agree?
 
The Royal Challengers Bangalore (RCB) vs Lucknow Super Giants (LSG) match in the Indian Premier League (IPL) could've ended differently if Harshal Patel hadn't missed running out Ravi Bishnoi at the non-striker's end before the last delivery of the match. Harshal's miss proved costly as Lucknow scored the remaining one run on the final ball to win the match. But, the incident has sparked the age-old debate over non-striker run-out again. After commentator Harsha Bhogle asked if anyone still finds the form of dismissal wrong, Ben Stokes floated a 'controversy-free' idea.

Stokes idea

Umpires discretion.. 6 penalty runs if obviously trying to gain unfair advantage by leaving crease early? Would stop batters doing it without all the controversy"

Do you agree?

The beauty of baseball is that a runner can steal basis and pitcher can run him out.

Simiarly, there shouldn't be a penalty, if you try to steal a run, you should be mankadded and there should be no crying of spirit of cricket
 
NRMmeeiV


No ball and the batter out of his crease.

Guess which players was punished?
 
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I think this was good from Starc, he saw Perera walk out, and he stopped in his delivery stride to warn the batsman.
The question is, if Perera does it again, would it be fair game to mankad him?
 
Among the highlights of Day 1 of the first Test between New Zealand and Bangladesh in Sylhet, spinner Ajaz Patel warned batter, Mominul Haque of a run-out, at the non-striker's end as the latter was backing away at the crease. In the 39th over of the Bangladesh innings, Ajaz was bowling the fifth ball when he pulled back his action midway and realized in the follow-up that Mominul was already outside his crease at the non-striker's end. Ajaz then pointed that out, giving a warning to the batter.

 
Among the highlights of Day 1 of the first Test between New Zealand and Bangladesh in Sylhet, spinner Ajaz Patel warned batter, Mominul Haque of a run-out, at the non-striker's end as the latter was backing away at the crease. In the 39th over of the Bangladesh innings, Ajaz was bowling the fifth ball when he pulled back his action midway and realized in the follow-up that Mominul was already outside his crease at the non-striker's end. Ajaz then pointed that out, giving a warning to the batter.

He should have just run him out. Lazy and no game awareness from the batsman..
 
Among the highlights of Day 1 of the first Test between New Zealand and Bangladesh in Sylhet, spinner Ajaz Patel warned batter, Mominul Haque of a run-out, at the non-striker's end as the latter was backing away at the crease. In the 39th over of the Bangladesh innings, Ajaz was bowling the fifth ball when he pulled back his action midway and realized in the follow-up that Mominul was already outside his crease at the non-striker's end. Ajaz then pointed that out, giving a warning to the batter.

He should learn some ethics from ashwin :ROFLMAO:
 
I don't think he was actually aware of the batter stepping out early. LOL. He just noticed it when he missed his run-up I guess.
 
Mankad is against the spirit of cricket. Bravo to Ajaz Patel for not having his name registered in the Mankad book.
 
Mankad is against the spirit of cricket. Bravo to Ajaz Patel for not having his name registered in the Mankad book.
Run-outs come down to inches. Batsmen getting a head-start by stepping out of the crease and decreasing the distance they have to cover to get to the other end is against the spirit of cricket.

Not Mankading.
 
Mankad is against the spirit of cricket. Bravo to Ajaz Patel for not having his name registered in the Mankad book.
Sorry it's a run out now. This spirit of cricket is a delusion. If the batsman reaches the wicket keeper end and is in by say a few mm does the fielding team get any credit for the batsman taking unfair advantage by getting so many inches or feet of headstart ? No. So it's a run out. Have game awareness and dont step out till ball is bowled.. we follow that in the club cricket that we play- no excuse for international level players. And btw the work marked doesn't exist anymore- it's a run out simple.
 
My apologies if this sounds arrogant - however, I do feel that anyone who is dead set against Mankading has either never played the game competitively at even a mohalla/ local street level, or doesn’t understand the game beyond a theoretical perspective.


One, The batsman who is out of his crease is taking undue advantage in a game where millimetres or milliseconds separate victory and defeat.

Please convince me otherwise.

Two, the batsman by that token opens themselves to being taken out of the equation. Risk versus reward versus retribution. This is retribution.

I can get behind the batsman being given one warning. Although at that international level no warning should be needed. Do we warn a facing batsman when they’re playing out of their crease to bowlers, that they may get stumped?

Still, I’m ok with one warning.

No more. A batsman who does it repeatedly is not careless, they are a cheat.
 
This is the most stupid rule I have ever seen.

It's like if a bowler is not able to get a batsman out conventionally try this way which is quite an easy way to get a wicket.
 
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