Breaking Bad [SPOILER ALERT]

[marlonbrowndo]

Just a few more days till the movie. Can’t believe it’s been 6 years since the show ended

 

[in_cutter]

Binged watched this again in time for El Camino.

 

[Heisenberg111]

I trust Vince Gilligan, should be a good movie #Elcamino.

 

[James]

This is going to be awesome.

Didn’t have time to binge watch the series all again - but did manage to fit in the breathtaking trio of Ozymandias, Granite State and Felina this afternoon in order to refresh my memory.

Can’t wait for the film Friday night.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I trust Vince Gilligan, should be a good movie #Elcamino.

Have a feeling we will be dissapointed.

There is no way you can bring all the drama from the series into the big screen for a couple of hours. But cant wait to watch it and I hope Im wrong.

No piece of television comes close to BB.

 

[Major]

just watched it.

it sucked.

It was just a flat tire really. great ending though, but let me tell everyone, dont keep your expectations high.

 

[Major]

i binged watched season 4 and 5 for this.

See, people who have seen Granate Slate, Ozymanddia, and Felina, they will be hugely disappointed.

 

[in_cutter]

Very underwhelming. Half of the movie is flashbacks.

Aaron Paul & Jesse Plemons have clearly aged and both are overweight- this movie should have been done immediately after the series ended- it just feels like fan service.

Disappointed.

 

[Major]

Very underwhelming. Half of the movie is flashbacks.

Aaron Paul & Jesse Plemons have clearly aged and both are overweight- this movie should have been done immediately after the series ended- it just feels like fan service.

Disappointed.

to be honest, vince gilligan did said that it was a movie for the breaking bad fans and not really that kind of a movie where you want people to be hooked up to.

 

[James]

Good film! Very enjoyable.

 

[in_cutter]

to be honest, vince gilligan did said that it was a movie for the breaking bad fans and not really that kind of a movie where you want people to be hooked up to.

I loved Breaking Bad. This just feels out of place.

 

[Halaribo]

It was nice closure.

Would be amazing if there was a Better Call Saul crossover.

 

[Major]

I loved Breaking Bad. This just feels out of place.

yeh i felt the same.

this was more like 2 spisodes of breaking bad where they are giving a clsure to Jesse Pinkman.

See a movie should have had Walter white doing his things and all..

But when i saw the ending, it was really beautiful and somehting you dont see in Breaking bad. Its the ending where i realize that it was better not having Walter White there.

 

[szrana007]

Enjoyable movie with a fitting conclusion to Jesse's story.

 

[Heisenberg111]

It was the perfect epilogue to the series and completed Jesse's story in such a satisfying way. It's the closure we as the audience could only desire, and more than a tribute to the series. Felina was the wrapping paper, this is the ribbon and Vince Gilligan's masterpiece is fully finished.

 

[James]

In the buildup to this, I was very much in the camp of wanting Walter White to have survived and to feature heavily in the script - but having watched the film now, I am glad that he only got an entertaining flashback cameo. This is Jesse’s story, and Aaron Paul delivers a brilliant central performance to comfortably carry the storyline on his shoulders.

 

[Savak]

Apt ending to the story. I wish they showed what happened to Skylar, Walt Jr, them getting the money Walt left for them, Marrie etc

 

[The_Odd_One]

Watching Breaking Bad (and seeing Walt Jr eat breakfast) was like a routine for several years.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Enjoyed the movie!

BB has the most interesting characters who are all very different. Nice to see them again.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Was a decent addition.

Dont know what some expected, it was never going to be an entertaining blockbuster or have a tonne of characters.

We got a nice final send off for Jesse while expanding on his character arc and closing off his ultimate goal of redemption, by him accepting he would never fully get it and living a new life, while seeing some familiar faces. Loved Jane and Walt's appearances, and Todd was excellent (even if he's put on weight and aged like a mountain of bricks).

An enjoyable little dessert to Breaking Bad's wonderful main course

As an aside RIP to Robert Forster, died the day the film came out which I suppose is fortunate for us in a way as he was pivotal to the plot here and his scenes were amongst the best in the film. A talented actor.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It was the perfect epilogue to the series and completed Jesse's story in such a satisfying way. It's the closure we as the audience could only desire, and more than a tribute to the series. Felina was the wrapping paper, this is the ribbon and Vince Gilligan's masterpiece is fully finished.

I disagree, I thought the BB series ended perfectly, right down to the Perfect Love song which played out to Walter White's death scene.

El Camino wasn't a bad movie by any means, it was just a bit after the Lord Mayor's show. There were some bright moments, but most of the movie was pretty dull. It reminded me of the really slow episodes you would sit through in a series before it took off again with a couple of crazy scenes where suddenly everything kicked off.

I didn't mind the film, just found it pretty forgettable and would rather not associate it with what I consider one of the best tv shows of all time.

 

[re82h]

I have just finished watching the series for the first time 2 weeks ago Just in time to watch El Camino.
Have to say El Camino was a bit of a let down for me. But i guess after watching Felina anything would be a let down. I guess for die hard fans who watched this series 6 years ago when it initially ended El Camino must be decent.

Breaking Bad the series was easily the best series I've watched. Can't believe i didn't watch it all these years ago. Great acting and Great writing.

 

[Kroll]

Just gone through the whole series a few weeks ago to see what all the hype was about. Thought it was good whilst watching like half way thought the series but nothing didn't think there was anything special about it.

But I must admit, got fully engrossed by the latter half of the series and think it deserves its reputation as one of top TV shows. Didn't like that Skyler though, thought she was pretty annoying and.... well can't use the term on this site.

 

[Savak]

They should have released the El Camino movie immediately in 2014. Jesse looks older and a bit overweight in the movie compared to the series.

 

[re82h]

They should have released the El Camino movie immediately in 2014. Jesse looks older and a bit overweight in the movie compared to the series.

Todd took all the attention on social media with his weight when the film released couple of months ago.

 

[Robert]

Just gone through the whole series a few weeks ago to see what all the hype was about. Thought it was good whilst watching like half way thought the series but nothing didn't think there was anything special about it.

But I must admit, got fully engrossed by the latter half of the series and think it deserves its reputation as one of top TV shows. Didn't like that Skyler though, thought she was pretty annoying and.... well can't use the term on this site.

Skyler got a lot of hate. I think she was a strong woman with a strong moral sense and a lot of young men can’t handle that. She resisted Walt’s manipulation for four seasons. Being married to a strong woman myself, I liked and respected Skyler. Though in the end her moral sense was corroded by Walt and she turned gangster too.

She was the only woman in the series that I liked. Marie was annoying and controlling, though she truly loved Hank, and Lydia was just horribly self-serving and disloyal.

 

[James]

The greatest series of all time, I think.

Lots of shows start well, however then either quickly or eventually go off the boil, and don’t end on the right note or at the right time - but this one just got everything right. It is perfect.

Can’t think of anything that could be improved about the main arc, nor a weak character or poor acting performance, nor a single bit of lazy writing or meaningless sub-plot, nor an unresolved loose end or unsatisfying resolution.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Skyler got a lot of hate. I think she was a strong woman with a strong moral sense and a lot of young men can’t handle that. She resisted Walt’s manipulation for four seasons. Being married to a strong woman myself, I liked and respected Skyler. Though in the end her moral sense was corroded by Walt and she turned gangster too.

She was the only woman in the series that I liked. Marie was annoying and controlling, though she truly loved Hank, and Lydia was just horribly self-serving and disloyal.

I loved all the women. A perfect example how no two people are the same, the three women you mentioned there were poles apart in values and strength of character, but they played their roles perfectly. I think the making of any show is how believable the main roles are, and they nailed pretty much every one in BB. One of the few series I can easily rewatch every few years.

 

[Kroll]

Skyler got a lot of hate. I think she was a strong woman with a strong moral sense and a lot of young men can’t handle that. She resisted Walt’s manipulation for four seasons. Being married to a strong woman myself, I liked and respected Skyler. Though in the end her moral sense was corroded by Walt and she turned gangster too.

She was the only woman in the series that I liked. Marie was annoying and controlling, though she truly loved Hank, and Lydia was just horribly self-serving and disloyal.

I appreciate what you're saying but the main thing that got my goose:

Spoiler

She so easily went off with Ted Beneke to indulge in an extra-marital affair. Now that isn't something becoming of a woman with strong moral principles is it?

I definitely would have respected her more about the things you've written above if she wasn't a blatant cheater. I get Walt was no Angel, far from it lol. But at least he wasn't unfaithful.

I didn't mind her as much until that point, but i guess that was the tipping point. She was a bit of a petty character as well and went off in a huff for large parts earlier in the series. So yeah, not my cup of tea.

 

[Robert]

I appreciate what you're saying but the main thing that got my goose:

Spoiler

She so easily went off with Ted Beneke to indulge in an extra-marital affair. Now that isn't something becoming of a woman with strong moral principles is it?

I definitely would have respected her more about the things you've written above if she wasn't a blatant cheater. I get Walt was no Angel, far from it lol. But at least he wasn't unfaithful.

I didn't mind her as much until that point, but i guess that was the tipping point. She was a bit of a petty character as well and went off in a huff for large parts earlier in the series. So yeah, not my cup of tea.

I think she felt that she had supported Walt 100% while he got sick and lied and lied and lied, and she needed solace. A man has to look after his wife's emotional needs.

 

[Kroll]

Just need to get round to watching El Camino now.

 

[Savak]

I think they could have carried on Breaking Bad for a few more seasons, the show and the story moved very fast. That show was worth ten seasons atleast

 

[Kroll]

I think they could have carried on Breaking Bad for a few more seasons, the show and the story moved very fast. That show was worth ten seasons atleast

The way it started, it was hard to see how it could last a couple of episodes. I think the length was alright. Too much of a good thing can sometimes ruin it.

 

[Saj]

Finally started watching this, after so many people I know spoke so highly about it.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Finally started watching this, after so many people I know spoke so highly about it.

Ive watched this again recently, 3 times.

Paul and Cranston arguably the greatest acting double pair in any series.

A few a espisodes the series starts rolling, faster and faster until the end.

 

[Kroll]

Finally started watching this, after so many people I know spoke so highly about it.

Strangely, I still know quite a few folks who haven't watched it yet, but have seen tons and raved about other shows on Netflix and other platforms.

Don't think you'll be disappointed though. Personally, it's one of the best serial's I've ever watched. Keep us updated how you find it.

 

[Zaz]

Finally started watching this, after so many people I know spoke so highly about it.

Stick at it n you wont be disappointed

Like other posters have said Its argubly the best series ever made

 

[Robert]

Finally started watching this, after so many people I know spoke so highly about it.

Then you can watch Better Call Saul which is kind of the prequel…..

 

[James]

Finally started watching this, after so many people I know spoke so highly about it.

One of the great television series. All of the seasons are linked together like one huge sprawling story.

<I>Breaking Bad</I> unfolds like a five-act Shakespearean play, steadily building as it moves along to a dramatic and tragic final crescendo.

Enjoy it.

 

[Robert]

One of the great television series. All of the seasons are linked together like one huge sprawling story.

<I>Breaking Bad</I> unfolds like a five-act Shakespearean play, steadily building as it moves along to a dramatic and tragic final crescendo.

Enjoy it.

Incredible how the relationship between the two principals shifts with every episode.

How Walt’s web of lies eventually pulls everyone down.

The two-season chess game with Gus.

And though he blows up every human relationship - husband, father, brother, business partner - we still root for him as, in the final act, he wins some vestige of his honour back.

 

[James]

I was rooting for Walter throughout most of the show to be honest, and particularly in the note-perfect finale — even though it’s clear he has long since completely debased himself morally and traded in all of his human decency for greed, power and riches by this point.

 

[Robert]

I was rooting for Walter throughout most of the show to be honest, and particularly in the note-perfect finale — even though it’s clear he has long since completely debased himself morally and traded in all of his human decency for greed, power and riches by this point.

I started losing sympathy when he did the thing with the plant in his garden…..

 

[James]

I started losing sympathy when he did the thing with the plant in his garden…..

What a twist!!

 

[Robert]

What a twist!!

That scene where Jesse confronts Walt, and Walt is manipulating him but we don't know it yet, bluffing on an empty hand and likely to get shot....

Hank vs Death Twins in the car park....

That moment where Walt has given up, but Grey Matter come on the telly, and Walt hardens into Heisenberg again in front of our eyes....

Jesse up the ladder trying to catch the fly as Walt won't pass out and is about to tell the truth....

It's just nerve-shredding, again, and again, and again.

 

[James]

That scene where Jesse confronts Walt, and Walt is manipulating him but we don't know it yet, bluffing on an empty hand and likely to get shot....

Hank vs Death Twins in the car park....

<b>That moment where Walt has given up, but Grey Matter come on the telly, and Walt hardens into Heisenberg again in front of our eyes....</b>

Jesse up the ladder trying to catch the fly as Walt won't pass out and is about to tell the truth....

It's just nerve-shredding, again, and again, and again.

So many great and unforgettable scenes.

All of the stuff with Tuco and Hector as well.

The bolded might just be my favourite of them all. Absolutely awesome. Love how Walter then leaves behind half a glass of bourbon with his dollar bills, symbolising Heisenberg’s unfinished business.

Also the psychotic meltdown moment in the crawl space when Walter discovers that a big pile of his money has gone…

 

[Robert]

So many great and unforgettable scenes.

All of the stuff with Tuco and Hector as well.

The bolded might just be my favourite of them all. Absolutely awesome. Love how Walter then leaves behind half a glass of bourbon with his dollar bills, symbolising Heisenberg’s unfinished business.

Also the psychotic meltdown moment in the crawl space when Walter discovers that a big pile of his money has gone…

Have you watched Better Call Saul? We find out how Hector suffered his stroke.

A terrified Saul yells “It was Ignacio!” in one of his first scenes in BB, and we find out who Ignacio was too…..

 

[James]

Have you watched Better Call Saul? We find out how Hector suffered his stroke.

A terrified Saul yells “It was Ignacio!” in one of his first scenes in BB, and we find out who Ignacio was too…..

Yes. El Camino good also. A brilliant universe.

 

[Robert]

I can’t wait for the final season of BCS. I wonder if it ends with Walt and Jessie walking into Saul’s office.

I fear for Kim, who is the one truly admirable character. I hope she leaves Jimmy / Saul instead of getting wasted. That scene where she faces down Lalo is superb. He is impressed by her and only her innocence - not realising she is staring death in the face - protects her and Jimmy.

 

[James]

I can’t wait for the final season of BCS. I wonder if it ends with Walt and Jessie walking into Saul’s office.

I fear for Kim, who is the one truly admirable character. I hope she leaves Jimmy / Saul instead of getting wasted. That scene where she faces down Lalo is superb. He is impressed by her and only her innocence - not realising she is staring death in the face - protects her and Jimmy.

That scene you mentioned is one of the best in BCS.

I also like the one where Jimmy waxes lyrical and sheds tears about his deceased brother to the panel in order to get his law licence back, and Kim thinks he has finally gone back to being nice Jimmy, but then he switches straight back into Saul/Lucifer mode as he triumphantly strides away.

The final season is extended in terms of episodes and it is going to be truly epic. Loads of rumours about people being spotted on set in Albuquerque, including Aaron and Bryan.

 

[Robert]

That scene you mentioned is one of the best in BCS.

I also like the one where Jimmy waxes lyrical and sheds tears about his deceased brother to the panel in order to get his law licence back, and Kim thinks he has finally gone back to being nice Jimmy, but then he switches straight back into Saul/Lucifer mode as he triumphantly strides away.

The final season is extended in terms of episodes and it is going to be truly epic. Loads of rumours about people being spotted on set in Albuquerque, including Aaron and Bryan.

I couldn’t stand Chuck. If only he had given Jimmy a bit of encouragement, Jimmy would have had a decent legit career in law.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Incredible how the relationship between the two principals shifts with every episode.

How Walt’s web of lies eventually pulls everyone down.

The two-season chess game with Gus.

And though he blows up every human relationship - husband, father, brother, business partner - we still root for him as, in the final act, he wins some vestige of his honour back.

I was rooting for him all the way, but female members of the family seem to find that almost offensive. Yes he did some truly awful stuff, but he did it all for his family above all else, that was my justification, but didn't seem to wash with them.

 

[Major]

I was rooting for him all the way, but female members of the family seem to find that almost offensive. Yes he did some truly awful stuff, but he did it all for his family above all else, that was my justification, but didn't seem to wash with them.

Naa. Thats what walt admites in the finale. It was never for the family.

When he started it it was for the family, but as it went on and his product and his name was becoming a brand he realized he was really good at something and had build something now.

If it was only for the money, he had made enough in the start and could had easily pulled out because enough money was made that could had easily be hidden aswell.

In the finale, he tells his wife that it was never for the family, he was good at this and felt better than just being a chemistry teacher....

He regretted grey matter pull out decision all his life.


People bash walters wife but as an actress she did a great job. Her role was rational and how any women would had reacted. Morally she was right...

 

[James]

I think the rooting for Walter is also based in Bryan Cranston’s brilliant acting work. He is absolutely magnetic in the role. Although his character has become completely twisted by his greed and lust for power by the end of the series, there is still some honour and decency remaining in that he orders his money to be gifted to his son, and he saves Jesse from the bandits. Cranston’s subtle and empathetic performance in “Felina” keeps you on Walter’s side until the end.

 

[Major]

The best series i have ever watched and no series even comes near it. Alot of people try to compare GOT to it but it is no where near.

BB was just a master piece. Even aftergus died and everything seemed liked it was getting boring they still pulled it off towards a great ending.

Every story that would develop in it, its dtory would have a twist. Some of my favourite scenes were:

1. Hisenberg confronting Tuco. No one saw that, even Tuco was like this guy is an idiot and than boom!!!

2. Walter goes to gus, asks him to stop jesse from killing his workers. It seemed as if everything would tone down, but than gus orders the killing of the cjild which comes on news. As jesse approaches the two gang members both parties show their weapons and as jessie appraoches a faint nose is coming and out of no where heisenberg runs them down, shoots one of them in the head and asks jessie to run.


Than these next three scenes were my alll time favourite ones that no series could even come close to.

3. The train heist. It was perfect, the biggest heist gets pulled off, no one finds out nothing goes wrong. But by than every BB fan is aware that in BB nothing ends well, while all of us enjoyed the heist the pull out, Todd goes one step further..

4. Heisenberg fooling mike and gus. It seemed as if it was the end of walter white. They pick him up bring him to the laundery. Mike tries to pretend that their is anspilliage but walter knew it was time to die, and he begs for his life. Mike stops pretending and has to say its time up. Walt decides to give up jessie and gets mike to ring him. But than walt screams do it jessie do it. Mike pushes walt back closes the phone and puts the gun towards Walt, but now he is no more walt anymore. Heisenberg says you better wait a minute your boss is gonna need me now. Mike clocks the gun to show him he doesnt care about his threat and thats when heisenberg shouts the address of gill. Ohhhhh the change of expression on the fave of mike..... No one can get under mike and you just witnessed heisenberg being just heisenberg. That change of facial expression just defined that whole season, and than what carried out in the next episode with gus coming in was magnificent. Crazy episode

5. Last but not least, the second last episode. Walter thinks its time to end everything and turn himself in. He sitting in that bar having one last drink as he waits for the cops to take him, but as he sits there grechen and his husband interview comes up.
Now remember whenever breaking bad would start we would listen to the them music of it. For the first time ever the full theme.music gets played, indicating that this is not the finale, as the music starts, walter once again turns into heisenberg and comes with another plan. The police are hear and slowly walking in, and than we all get familiar with the song and as the police come over to the bar side we witness heisenberg has left off with one last mission thus indicating the story hasnt ended we have one great play off coming.


I have watched this series like 3-4 times. I hope something like this again gets made in the future

 

[Major]

I think the rooting for Walter is also based in Bryan Cranston’s brilliant acting work. He is absolutely magnetic in the role. Although his character has become completely twisted by his greed and lust for power by the end of the series, there is still some honour and decency remaining in that he orders his money to be gifted to his son, and he saves Jesse from the bandits. Cranston’s subtle and empathetic performance in “Felina” keeps you on Walter’s side until the end.

I didnt even know brayan cranston was the same actor from malcolm in the middle acting when i finished the first season and was on the mid of season 2 or 3.

After i realized and out that its the same guy, i was surprised. He was a goof ball in that show and here he was becoming a meth kingpin

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Naa. Thats what walt admites in the finale. It was never for the family.

When he started it it was for the family, but as it went on and his product and his name was becoming a brand he realized he was really good at something and had build something now.

If it was only for the money, he had made enough in the start and could had easily pulled out because enough money was made that could had easily be hidden aswell.

In the finale, he tells his wife that it was never for the family, he was good at this and felt better than just being a chemistry teacher....

He regretted grey matter pull out decision all his life.


People bash walters wife but as an actress she did a great job. Her role was rational and how any women would had reacted. Morally she was right...

You've contradicted yourself within the space of two sentences. But I think that is because these issues are never black and white. Walt is like most people, there is some selflessness there, a pretty strong moral compass in many ways, especially regarding his family, and also an ego, again like most people.

That's what makes him such a compelling character, but you could say that for so many characters in that show, and yes, his wife Skylar was one of them.

 

[Major]

You've contradicted yourself within the space of two sentences. But I think that is because these issues are never black and white. Walt is like most people, there is some selflessness there, a pretty strong moral compass in many ways, especially regarding his family, and also an ego, again like most people.

That's what makes him such a compelling character, but you could say that for so many characters in that show, and yes, his wife Skylar was one of them.

Nope. I didnt contradict myself....

Walt started off for the family BUT, when he saw the potential family did not matter.

If it was for family he would had quit while he was ahead.

After ending the season you cant say he was doing it for the family as even he himself admits that family factor didnt matter.

What made the show interesting was how decisions were made based on just being humans, unlike GOT

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nope. I didnt contradict myself....

Walt started off for the family BUT, when he saw the potential family did not matter.

If it was for family he would had quit while he was ahead.

After ending the season you cant say he was doing it for the family as even he himself admits that family factor didnt matter.

What made the show interesting was how decisions were made based on just being humans, unlike GOT

It's wrong to say family stopped mattering though, what happened was that his ego kicked in once he realised just how good he was at the game, and then his family moved into the background while his persona as a superstar meth chemist took the spotlight. He wanted it all, it's not like he ever said that family was of no matter to him.

I think that is what was so great about the show, no one is ever really totally good or evil, it reflects real life when characters will be flawed and conflicted. It's easy to say he should have walked away once he had enough money, but in reality probably lots of people would fall into the same trap. It's like the world champion boxer who always thinks he can regain his title one more time despite having passed his peak some years ago.

 

[Kroll]

just watched it.

it sucked.

It was just a flat tire really. great ending though, but let me tell everyone, dont keep your expectations high.

i binged watched season 4 and 5 for this.

See, people who have seen Granate Slate, Ozymanddia, and Felina, they will be hugely disappointed.

The best series i have ever watched and no series even comes near it. Alot of people try to compare GOT to it but it is no where near.

BB was just a master piece. Even aftergus died and everything seemed liked it was getting boring they still pulled it off towards a great ending.

Every story that would develop in it, its dtory would have a twist. Some of my favourite scenes were:

1. Hisenberg confronting Tuco. No one saw that, even Tuco was like this guy is an idiot and than boom!!!

2. Walter goes to gus, asks him to stop jesse from killing his workers. It seemed as if everything would tone down, but than gus orders the killing of the cjild which comes on news. As jesse approaches the two gang members both parties show their weapons and as jessie appraoches a faint nose is coming and out of no where heisenberg runs them down, shoots one of them in the head and asks jessie to run.


Than these next three scenes were my alll time favourite ones that no series could even come close to.

3. The train heist. It was perfect, the biggest heist gets pulled off, no one finds out nothing goes wrong. But by than every BB fan is aware that in BB nothing ends well, while all of us enjoyed the heist the pull out, Todd goes one step further..

4. Heisenberg fooling mike and gus. It seemed as if it was the end of walter white. They pick him up bring him to the laundery. Mike tries to pretend that their is anspilliage but walter knew it was time to die, and he begs for his life. Mike stops pretending and has to say its time up. Walt decides to give up jessie and gets mike to ring him. But than walt screams do it jessie do it. Mike pushes walt back closes the phone and puts the gun towards Walt, but now he is no more walt anymore. Heisenberg says you better wait a minute your boss is gonna need me now. Mike clocks the gun to show him he doesnt care about his threat and thats when heisenberg shouts the address of gill. Ohhhhh the change of expression on the fave of mike..... No one can get under mike and you just witnessed heisenberg being just heisenberg. That change of facial expression just defined that whole season, and than what carried out in the next episode with gus coming in was magnificent. Crazy episode

5. Last but not least, the second last episode. Walter thinks its time to end everything and turn himself in. He sitting in that bar having one last drink as he waits for the cops to take him, but as he sits there grechen and his husband interview comes up.
Now remember whenever breaking bad would start we would listen to the them music of it. For the first time ever the full theme.music gets played, indicating that this is not the finale, as the music starts, walter once again turns into heisenberg and comes with another plan. The police are hear and slowly walking in, and than we all get familiar with the song and as the police come over to the bar side we witness heisenberg has left off with one last mission thus indicating the story hasnt ended we have one great play off coming.


I have watched this series like 3-4 times. I hope something like this again gets made in the future

From it sucked to best series ever seen, that’s some turnaround in a couple of years?

 

[Robert]

I was rooting for him all the way, but female members of the family seem to find that almost offensive. Yes he did some truly awful stuff, but he did it all for his family above all else, that was my justification, but didn't seem to wash with them.

That’s because it wasn’t true. Remember his confession to Skyler - that he did it all for himself - because he was good at it, and it made him feel alive.

 

[Robert]

I didnt even know brayan cranston was the same actor from malcolm in the middle acting when i finished the first season and was on the mid of season 2 or 3.

After i realized and out that its the same guy, i was surprised. He was a goof ball in that show and here he was becoming a meth kingpin

There’s a double ending on the DVD. Malcolm’s Dad wakes up next to his mum having had a terrible nightmare about being a meth kingpin. “There was this bald cop like the in The Shield!”

Anyway he settles back to sleep and the camera pans to show Heisenberg’s hat - revealing that MITM was actually Walt’s dream of a normal family life.

 

[Major]

From it sucked to best series ever seen, thatÂ’s some turnaround in a couple of years?

No No, those posts are about el camino..

El camino wasnt that great, it was ok. It gave an ending the jessies story..

But it was near the level of what bb was.

El camino was a movie for us BB fans to get clousure on his side.

 

[Major]

It's wrong to say family stopped mattering though, what happened was that his ego kicked in once he realised just how good he was at the game, and then his family moved into the background while his persona as a superstar meth chemist took the spotlight. He wanted it all, it's not like he ever said that family was of no matter to him.

I think that is what was so great about the show, no one is ever really totally good or evil, it reflects real life when characters will be flawed and conflicted. It's easy to say he should have walked away once he had enough money, but in reality probably lots of people would fall into the same trap. It's like the world champion boxer who always thinks he can regain his title one more time despite having passed his peak some years ago.

If family had mattered than he would had listenes to Sauls advice on laundering the money as cancer donations...

One thing that conflicts me alot is which side to choose when it came to the death of jane.

All these years i have had hard time deciding.

I believe walter saved jessie as jane was leading jessie into a world of getting high on drugs and wasting his young life with the money he had made.

But than again, it was jessies life, should walter had played the role of God their?

His actions did lead to dire consequences though.

Ufff i can recall the whole series, thanks for bumping this thread guys

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That’s because it wasn’t true. Remember his confession to Skyler - that he did it all for himself - because he was good at it, and it made him feel alive.

Even that shows that family mattered to him, otherwise why confess? He was good at it, and it did make him feel alive. That doesn't mean that his family stopped mattering, just that his own ego took over the spotlight and he couldn't give it up.

 

[James]

There’s a double ending on the DVD. Malcolm’s Dad wakes up next to his mum having had a terrible nightmare about being a meth kingpin. “There was this bald cop like the in The Shield!”

Anyway he settles back to sleep and the camera pans to show Heisenberg’s hat - revealing that MITM was actually Walt’s dream of a normal family life.

There is also a comedy trailer on Netflix for an alternative version of “Why Him?” — in the actual film, Bryan Cranston plays the disapproving father-in-law of James Franco, but in this alternative trailer, Bryan Cranston is both the disapproving father-in-law *and* now superimposed as the nightmarish son-in-law: who is Walter White, in his Heisenberg persona!

 

[Robert]

I believe walter saved jessie as jane was leading jessie into a world of getting high on drugs and wasting his young life with the money he had made.

But than again, it was jessies life, should walter had played the role of God their?

Walt let Jane die because she was a threat to his plans.

 

[James]

In my reading Walter viewed Jesse like the son he always wanted to take on mad and dangerous adventures (but he couldn’t before, because of Skylar’s uptightness and Walter Jr’s disability), and Jesse having been so strongly rejected by his parents and eschewed in favour of his younger brother viewed Walter like the father who he never had — which is why Jesse continues to stay loyal to “Mr White” despite being treated like dirt by his old teacher. But Walter saves Jesse in the end, & they are both able to reconcile and share a final mutually redemptive moment.

 

[James]

That’s because it wasn’t true. Remember his confession to Skyler - that he did it all for himself - because he was good at it, and it made him feel alive.

Yes, and at that moment Skyler seems to begrudgingly respect that Walter has finally owned up to his motives and told her the truth about his double life, so she lets Walter see and touch his infant daughter Holly one last time on the basis of him showing some integrity at last.

 

[Saj]

Not reading any of this thread

Up to half way in Season 2. Loving it. I just want both of them to become millionaires.

 

[KB]

That’s because it wasn’t true. Remember his confession to Skyler - that he did it all for himself - because he was good at it, and it made him feel alive.

It was a great show for many reasons, one of which was the subtle insights into human psychology. Faced with physical death and a feeling of under-achievement in life, Walter White searches for “symbolic immortality,” for proof that his life matters and will have significance even after he has gone.

In the book, Political Paranoia, the authors look at psychology of political violence, but the following passage, could also be applied to Walter White:

“The individual whose world is falling apart is experiencing his own psychological apocalypse. From this state of ultimate powerlessness and meaninglessness, some create a world of meaning in their mind, a new world in which they have power and significance. Through this vision they have found personal redemption.”

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It was a great show for many reasons, one of which was the subtle insights into human psychology. Faced with physical death and a feeling of under-achievement in life, Walter White searches for “symbolic immortality,” for proof that his life matters and will have significance even after he has gone.

In the book, Political Paranoia, the authors look at psychology of political violence, but the following passage, could also be applied to Walter White:

“The individual whose world is falling apart is experiencing his own psychological apocalypse. From this state of ultimate powerlessness and meaninglessness, some create a world of meaning in their mind, a new world in which they have power and significance. Through this vision they have found personal redemption.”

Yeah I took this away from it too. I think Males in particular search for this symbolic immortality either through deeds or through leaving a heir.

While in the Western world having a male child that is able to continue the family legacy is now becoming an old fashioned concept it is still prevalent in some areas and is particularly prevalent in Asia.

Walt stared death in the eyes and realised that he had lived a mediocre life with no notable legacy and his son was an invalid that was unlikely to do anything "heroic" that would bring him some glory.

So he essentially adopted a son and tried to cement in his name in history via his drug production so that he would have, exactly as you say, some significance after he was gone.

I knew some drug dealers personally when I was growing up and it always struck me as odd that they could genuinely have made 60% of the money but with almost zero risk if they attempted to keep a low profile and live less ostentatious lifestyles. However, there is a natural urge within humans to be known. This urge was exacerbated in Walter because he came into the game relatively late and had no time to organically develop a reputation and he didn't have much time left anyway.

 

[Robert]

In my reading Walter viewed Jesse like the son he always wanted to take on mad and dangerous adventures (but he couldn’t before, because of Skylar’s uptightness and Walter Jr’s disability), and Jesse having been so strongly rejected by his parents and eschewed in favour of his younger brother viewed Walter like the father who he never had — which is why Jesse continues to stay loyal to “Mr White” despite being treated like dirt by his old teacher. But Walter saves Jesse in the end, & they are both able to reconcile and share a final mutually redemptive moment.

That final little nod of respect between them.

Jessie just wants family. His own rejected him. So he seeks out Walt, and Jane, and Mike and Gus, and Brock and her mother. But family keeps being ripped from him.

Whereas Walt starts the story with everything in that regard, and blows it all to bits.

 

[James]

That final little nod of respect between them.

Jessie just wants family. His own rejected him. So he seeks out Walt, and Jane, and Mike and Gus, and Brock and her mother. But family keeps being ripped from him.

Whereas Walt starts the story with everything in that regard, and blows it all to bits.

This thread has made me want to watch the whole series all the way through yet again. Lol

Think I have watched it 3 or 4 times thus far. Number 5 is coming in January!

 

[KB]

Yeah I took this away from it too. I think Males in particular search for this symbolic immortality either through deeds or through leaving a heir.

While in the Western world having a male child that is able to continue the family legacy is now becoming an old fashioned concept it is still prevalent in some areas and is particularly prevalent in Asia.

Walt stared death in the eyes and realised that he had lived a mediocre life with no notable legacy and his son was an invalid that was unlikely to do anything "heroic" that would bring him some glory.

So he essentially adopted a son and tried to cement in his name in history via his drug production so that he would have, exactly as you say, some significance after he was gone.

I knew some drug dealers personally when I was growing up and it always struck me as odd that they could genuinely have made 60% of the money but with almost zero risk if they attempted to keep a low profile and live less ostentatious lifestyles. However, there is a natural urge within humans to be known. This urge was exacerbated in Walter because he came into the game relatively late and had no time to organically develop a reputation and he didn't have much time left anyway.

Very well put.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That final little nod of respect between them.

Jessie just wants family. His own rejected him. So he seeks out Walt, and Jane, and Mike and Gus, and Brock and her mother. But family keeps being ripped from him.

Whereas Walt starts the story with everything in that regard, and blows it all to bits.

He starts with everything, but the cancer diagnosis puts the future he has planned for his family at risk, and that is what leads him down the criminal path to begin with. The Walt we see at the beginning of the series is a far cry from the Mr Big he mutates into by the end of it.

 

[James]

He starts with everything, but the cancer diagnosis puts the future he has planned for his family at risk, and that is what leads him down the criminal path to begin with. The Walt we see at the beginning of the series is a far cry from the Mr Big he mutates into by the end of it.

I find the mid-series flashback scene, wherein a younger Walter and a pregnant Skyler are viewing the future White family house in Albuquerque, to be really interesting. Walter is talking about all of his grand plans and ambitions for the future, and quite snobbishly declares his belief that the house will be too small for them. (There is also the context at this point of Walter’s past decision to divest from Gray Matter Technologies, for a relatively paltry sum, when it would have made him a multi millionaire if he’d stayed on board.)

From this angle, one gets the impression that Walter was never happy with his eventual lot of being a schoolteacher on a middling salary with a clunky SUV. He always harboured the ambition, the intelligence, and the arrogance to want to build his own personal empire, and in the end, it is only crossing the frontier into the illegal drug trade that delivers on this aspiration for him. The cancer diagnosis is simply what springs him into life.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I find the mid-series flashback scene, wherein a younger Walter and a pregnant Skyler are viewing the future White family house in Albuquerque, to be really interesting. Walter is talking about all of his grand plans and ambitions for the future, and quite snobbishly declares his belief that the house will be too small for them. (There is also the context at this point of Walter’s past decision to divest from Gray Matter Technologies, for a relatively paltry sum, when it would have made him a multi millionaire if he’d stayed on board.)

From this angle, one gets the impression that Walter was never happy with his eventual lot of being a schoolteacher on a middling salary with a clunky SUV. He always harboured the ambition, the intelligence, and the arrogance to want to build his own personal empire, and in the end, it is only crossing the frontier into the illegal drug trade that delivers on this aspiration for him. The cancer diagnosis is simply what springs him into life.

Fair point, it's been a while since I've seen it to be honest, totally forgot about his previous history with Gray Matters Technology, so yes he did have grand ideas at an earlier stage of life. But by the time he got cancer, I think he had given up on all that and was resigned to living the less glamorous life of a school teacher. I don't think the cancer sparked him back to life in a sense that he suddenly thought he was going to be a millionaire drug lord, he was simply trying at that point to provide a future nest egg for his family when he was gone.

I think I may have to join you in watching the whole thing again, I've seen it 3 times so far, but it's one of those shows that's so well made you get more out of watching a repeat than you do out of watching new shows of a lesser quality.

 

[Robert]

Yes, and at that moment Skyler seems to begrudgingly respect that Walter has finally owned up to his motives and told her the truth about his double life, so she lets Walter see and touch his infant daughter Holly one last time on the basis of him showing some integrity at last.

And it's a lovely moment where we can all forgive him too, and get behind him for his final Say-hello-to-my-lil'-friend scene - where I was out of my seat punching the air.

 

[James]

And it's a lovely moment where we can all forgive him too, and get behind him for his final Say-hello-to-my-lil'-friend scene - where I was out of my seat punching the air.

I was impressed by the mirroring of how in “Ozymandias” Uncle Jack executes Hank in cold blood with a single bullet from his handgun, whereas in “Felina” it is Walter who avenges Hank by killing Uncle Jack with the same weapon and in precisely the same ruthless manner.

 

[Major]

That final little nod of respect between them.

Jessie just wants family. His own rejected him. So he seeks out Walt, and Jane, and Mike and Gus, and Brock and her mother. But family keeps being ripped from him.

Whereas Walt starts the story with everything in that regard, and blows it all to bits.

Ahhh thats a good way to look at it