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'Bumrah has less threatening performances than Shaheen in all formats' : Aaqib Javed

Shaheen has a clean action.

Does Bumrah have a clean action? We can't tell until he gets tested.

Until Bumrah gets tested, his records should have an asterisk mark. :inti
 
Bhaijaan said:
He is better than Shaheen after Shaheen suffered from injury but Shaheen is still a more impactful 1st over bowler.

And calm down, he's not the best ever. Not even Top 10. Wasim, Waqar, Shabby were different level.
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Shaheen took another early wicket. Getting belted now but eagle made early impact again.
 
Despite all the accolades Bumrah gets, he is a bit underrated in the Sub-continent among fans and commentators while SENA nations treat him as their most difficult adversary bar none.

He reached to such a level that if you have Bumrah in your team, you can win the World-cups.
His only underwhelming performance in Tests in the recent times was in England in 2025 where he averaged 26 @14 tests. 2 of those tests were played on absolute belters and he was still on recovery mode from his back injury during his BGT series.

His BGT stats were simply out of the world with 32 wickets @13 average. We would have probably drawn if he was not injured in that 2nd innings of 5th test.

He won us 2 T20 WCs 2024, 2026 with him being the MOTT in 2024 and one of key differentiator in 2026 along with Sanju Samson.

His current peers never had such a peak and may be post 2000’s very few like Steyn and Starc may have had infact. But his consistency is next level.

And to compare him with Shaheen is absolutely ridiculous. He was never as good as Bumrah in Tests and his only comparison was in few ODIs and T20s similar to Ajanta Mendis type peak.
 
Theanonymousone said:
Despite all the accolades Bumrah gets, he is a bit underrated in the Sub-continent among fans and commentators while SENA nations treat him as their most difficult adversary bar none.
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Probably true,

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He is the greatest quick bowler ever': Stuart Broad makes big claim​


Steven Finn, who represented England between 2010 and 2016, was full of admiration for Bumrah’s skills, declaring him the greatest bowler of all time. “Everyone else is mortal. There are good bowlers, there are great bowlers, but then there is Jasprit Bumrah, who sits above all of them at the moment. And I include people like (Pat) Cummins, (Mitchell) Starc. I think he’s just on another planet when compared to any other bowler,” Finn said in a conversation with Broad.

Broad, who ranks as the fifth-highest wicket-taker in Test cricket history, echoed Finn’s sentiments. "You could put a really strong argument that he is the greatest quick bowler ever. Malcolm Marshall, Richard Hadley, Curtly Ambrose, Glenn McGrath – all these guys. It’s difficult to make comparisons because we didn’t see Malcolm Marshall in a T20 World Cup semifinal, where the ball is flying to all parts. He is certainly the best I’ve ever seen, that is for sure,” said Broad.
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Butcher: ‘Astonishing’ Bumrah is an outlier in world cricket, and maybe he will be forever​

The skill that he has to bowl the perfect yorker, to change his pace in a way that is so well disguised and so brilliantly executed in terms of the perfect length, the perfect line and whatever else, when the pressure is highest and people are coming at him, or coming at the bowling to go big, is quite remarkable."

"He's an absolutely outlier in world cricket at the moment, and maybe forever. People love doing the comparison thing of great bowlers from different eras but nearly all of those guys didn't have to contend with scoring rates as they are meant to be in T20 cricket, and therefore it's impossible to say whether or not they would have been or could have been as good as he is. He is absolutely outstanding

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Mark Butcher: India Became Stronger When They Stopped Relying On Individual Superstars | T20 World Cup 2026

Mark Butcher has praised India head coach Gautam Gambhir for building a T20 World Cup winning side without reliance on individual super stars.
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Buffet said:
Probably true,

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He is the greatest quick bowler ever': Stuart Broad makes big claim​


Steven Finn, who represented England between 2010 and 2016, was full of admiration for Bumrah’s skills, declaring him the greatest bowler of all time. “Everyone else is mortal. There are good bowlers, there are great bowlers, but then there is Jasprit Bumrah, who sits above all of them at the moment. And I include people like (Pat) Cummins, (Mitchell) Starc. I think he’s just on another planet when compared to any other bowler,” Finn said in a conversation with Broad.

Broad, who ranks as the fifth-highest wicket-taker in Test cricket history, echoed Finn’s sentiments. "You could put a really strong argument that he is the greatest quick bowler ever. Malcolm Marshall, Richard Hadley, Curtly Ambrose, Glenn McGrath – all these guys. It’s difficult to make comparisons because we didn’t see Malcolm Marshall in a T20 World Cup semifinal, where the ball is flying to all parts. He is certainly the best I’ve ever seen, that is for sure,” said Broad.
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Butcher: ‘Astonishing’ Bumrah is an outlier in world cricket, and maybe he will be forever​

The skill that he has to bowl the perfect yorker, to change his pace in a way that is so well disguised and so brilliantly executed in terms of the perfect length, the perfect line and whatever else, when the pressure is highest and people are coming at him, or coming at the bowling to go big, is quite remarkable."

"He's an absolutely outlier in world cricket at the moment, and maybe forever. People love doing the comparison thing of great bowlers from different eras but nearly all of those guys didn't have to contend with scoring rates as they are meant to be in T20 cricket, and therefore it's impossible to say whether or not they would have been or could have been as good as he is. He is absolutely outstanding

www.wisden.com

Mark Butcher: India Became Stronger When They Stopped Relying On Individual Superstars | T20 World Cup 2026

Mark Butcher has praised India head coach Gautam Gambhir for building a T20 World Cup winning side without reliance on individual super stars.
www.wisden.com www.wisden.com
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I notice you revere Bhumrah a lot. Is it your inferiority complex as a SA fan? Bhumrah is a good, even very good bowler. Nothing more. Where was he during WC final 2023? CT 2017 F? 2016 T20 SF AND 2019 SF? 2021 T20 WC? In England test series Ind won when he wasn't there. He is no Wasim Akram. Stop with this nonsense.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
I notice you revere Bhumrah a lot. Is it your inferiority complex as a SA fan? Bhumrah is a good, even very good bowler. Nothing more. Where was he during WC final 2023? CT 2017 F? 2016 T20 SF AND 2019 SF? 2021 T20 WC? In England test series Ind won when he wasn't there. He is no Wasim Akram. Stop with this nonsense.
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Ya Stuart Broad, Mcgrath all have inferiority complex. Someone with a ridiculous handle in a forum like you have the right complex lol
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Ya Stuart Broad, Mcgrath all have inferiority complex. Someone with a ridiculous handle in a forum like you have the right complex lol
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Firstly my handle name is better than jnaveen or whatever that is. You admitted you were tullugu and that itself is a shame. I don't need to tell you your reputation in the US. Stick to cricket.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Firstly my handle name is better than jnaveen or whatever that is. You admitted you were tullugu and that itself is a shame. I don't need to tell you your reputation in the US. Stick to cricket.
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You have given away lol. Thanks. Yes Bumrah sucks :) But what do you think of Travis Head? He faield badly as a player and captain
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
I notice you revere Bhumrah a lot. Is it your inferiority complex as a SA fan? Bhumrah is a good, even very good bowler. Nothing more. Where was he during WC final 2023? CT 2017 F? 2016 T20 SF AND 2019 SF? 2021 T20 WC? In England test series Ind won when he wasn't there. He is no Wasim Akram. Stop with this nonsense.
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Broad, McGrath, Border, Waughan, Butcher on and on calling him best ever candidate translate to you feeling all of them have inferioirty coplex then no one can help you. I do see him clearly ahead of Wasim in all formats but not the best ever. best ever in the test format is Marshall. Best ever in all formats combined is Mcgrath.

Stop this non-sense, lol. Why are you so mad at simply sharing how high he gets rated by ex players. Waqar himself is on record saying that Bumrah is better than 2 Ws at similar stage. You can call him also to stop the non-sense.
 
At this point in his career. Shaheen has far more threatening performances, across all matches and conditions.

He can take a match-winning position for Pakistan and single-handedly turn it into a match-losing one in the space of 6 balls. His performance also threatens the spectators as batsmen are able to launch him into the stands at will, and with shear force.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
At this point in his career. Shaheen has far more threatening performances, across all matches and conditions.

He can take a match-winning position for Pakistan and single-handedly turn it into a match-losing one in the space of 6 balls. His performance also threatens the spectators as batsmen are able to launch him into the stands at will, and with shear force.
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He makes people happy. Almost makde Shanaka happy. Got away.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
I notice you revere Bhumrah a lot. Is it your inferiority complex as a SA fan? Bhumrah is a good, even very good bowler. Nothing more. Where was he during WC final 2023? CT 2017 F? 2016 T20 SF AND 2019 SF? 2021 T20 WC? In England test series Ind won when he wasn't there. He is no Wasim Akram. Stop with this nonsense.
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Are you for real?

Bumrah has some unreal stats in WCT20’s - 40 wickets @13.65 average and 5.67 economy.

These are some other worldly stats. He literally won the 2024 T20 WC by himself.

How many WCs did Wasim Akram win??

Stats wise, Bumrah is better than Wasim in ODI Worldcups too

Bumrah - 38 wickets @ 19.5 avg, 4.2 econ., 27.5 SR

Wasim - 55 wickets @ 23.8 avg, 4.04 econ., 35.4 SR

He has better average and SR than Wasim at marginally lower econ. which is insane in current scenario.

He achieved far more than Wasim in SENA nations and there is no comparison
 
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