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Can Asif Ali be a better Pakistan's T20I captain than Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan?

Mamoon said:
Asif Ali averages 15 in T20 internationals after 51 innings.

Furthermore, he does not average more than 28 in any domestic format (FC, LA, T20) in spite of being 33 and having played more than 300+ domestic matches.

But apparently, Babar did not let him flourish and he is responsible for the Pakistani Jos Buttler’s tailender like output.

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Before taking any argument further, it's important to justify Babar's strike rate of 128, especially given that he often plays more than 50% of the balls in an innings. I don't blame the batsmen coming in after the 15th over for trying to play catch-up, as the openers waste the powerplay and turned a T20 match into something resembling a Test match.

As for your closing comment, I usually see people sign off with their name or signature, but I'm not sure why you're using an emoji of yourself instead.

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emranabbas said:
Before taking any argument further, it's important to justify Babar's strike rate of 128, especially given that he often plays more than 50% of the balls in an innings.
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41 @129 is a million times better than 15 @ 134.

emranabbas said:
I don't blame the batsmen coming in after the 15th over for trying to play catch-up, as the openers waste the powerplay and turned a T20 match into something resembling a Test match.
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Of course you don’t. You only support and back terrible players so the worse a player is, the more likely you are to support him.

Regardless of where you are batting, an average of 15 after 51 innings is horrendous. There is no excuse, justification or explanation for it. The best part is that only is his average absolutely comical, he also has a very ordinary SR of 133.

To be of any use with an average of 15, you should be striking at at least 180+ to compensate for the fact that you don’t score any runs.

A combination of 15 @134 is a complete disaster. You are basically allowing the opposition to play with 12 men. You are much better of playing a bowler instead than have a batsman with such an embarrassing output.

Asif Ali is a complete joke and one of the worst batsmen to ever play for Pakistan. In fact, it is an insult to the art of batting to call Asif Ali a batsman.
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As for your closing comment, I usually see people sign off with their name or signature, but I'm not sure why you're using an emoji of yourself instead.

emranabbas
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This is a visual representation of what you looked like when you were typing that Babar is responsible for Asif Ali’s career not taking off.

The only person responsible for his career not taking off is him himself. He got way more opportunities that a third rate player like him deserved but he still couldn’t capitalize on them.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Even Shahid Afridi averaged close to 18 with a better Strike Rate. A guy who was literally known in the world as one who cannot stay in the crease for long.

These players didn't helped themselves. They got plenty of chances in International arena and have no one but themselves to blame for it.
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As for Shahid Afridi, he played alongside players like Imran Nazir, whose strike rate was over 135, which is equivalent to around 160+ in today's era. Even Kamran Akmal, along with other openers, performed well with a strike rate of 120, which was considered good at the time.

Keep in mind, the highest strike rate in that era was 145, held by Chris Gayle, while in this era, it's 167, held by Travis Head.
 
emranabbas said:
As for Shahid Afridi, he played alongside players like Imran Nazir, whose strike rate was over 135, which is equivalent to around 160+ in today's era. Even Kamran Akmal, along with other openers, performed well with a strike rate of 120, which was considered good at the time.

Keep in mind, the highest strike rate in that era was 145, held by Chris Gayle, while in this era, it's 167, held by Travis Head.
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What does this have to do that he batted with players like Imran Nazir?

Even if that matters in some weird way. Afridi batted most of his innings and played most of his matches without the presence of Imran Nazir. Yet his SR and average both remain higher than Asif Ali.

And no. 135+ SR in 2012 isn't 160 now. It is still 135. In fact if we go by this notion of yours. You are advocating for the fact that Asif having a lesser SR than Afridi now is even more of a disgrace because Afridi is retired and Asif Ali only came in to international Cricket in 2018. So it's ludicrous then for Asif Ali to be having a SR of less than 160 in today's world.
 
Mamoon said:
41 @129 is a million times better than 15 @ 134.
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this 41@129 was played mostly in the last few overs when team was desperate for runs because the openers failed you?
if it didn't then its a useless comparison.

Mamoon said:
Of course you don’t. You only support and back terrible players so the worse a player is, the more likely you are to support him.

Regardless of where you are batting, an average of 15 after 51 innings is horrendous. There is no excuse, justification or explanation for it. The best part is that only is his average absolutely comical, he also has a very ordinary SR of 133.

To be of any use with an average of 15, you should be striking at at least 180+ to compensate for the fact that you don’t score any runs.

A combination of 15 @134 is a complete disaster. You are basically allowing the opposition to play with 12 men. You are much better of playing a bowler instead than have a batsman with such an embarrassing output.

Asif Ali is a complete joke and one of the worst batsmen to ever play for Pakistan. In fact, it is an insult to the art of batting to call Asif Ali a batsman.

This is a visual representation of what you looked like when you were typing that Babar is responsible for Asif Ali’s career not taking off.

The only person responsible for his career not taking off is him himself. He got way more opportunities that a third rate player like him deserved but he still couldn’t capitalize on them.
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RidiculousMan said:
What does this have to do that he batted with players like Imran Nazir?

Even if that matters in some weird way. Afridi batted most of his innings and played most of his matches without the presence of Imran Nazir. Yet his SR and average both remain higher than Asif Ali.

And no. 135+ SR in 2012 isn't 160 now. It is still 135. In fact if we go by this notion of yours. You are advocating for the fact that Asif having a lesser SR than Afridi now is even more of a disgrace because Afridi is retired and Asif Ali only came in to international Cricket in 2018. So it's ludicrous then for Asif Ali to be having a SR of less than 160 in today's world.
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Maybe you forgot to read my post fully or just picking bits and bobs to suit your narrative I didn't only mention imran nazir

And for your second part if different era's don't matter

Then babar is better than Tendulkar, sangakara, Ab, Dhoni? Because he has better average than all of them

No mate strike rates and averages of different era's matter
 
emranabbas said:
Maybe you forgot to read my post fully or just picking bits and bobs to suit your narrative I didn't only mention imran nazir

And for your second part if different era's don't matter

Then babar is better than Tendulkar, sangakara, Ab, Dhoni? Because he has better average than all of them

No mate strike rates and averages of different era's matter
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Why is Asif Ali SR lower than that of Afridi then?

And the less we talk about Asif's average of 15. The better
 
Regardless of he can hit the ball hard and long, Asif Ali reliability is not cut at international level.

Comparing him with Shahid Afridi is insult to the game of cricket, Afridi was a package as player.
 
emranabbas said:
this 41@129 was played mostly in the last few overs when team was desperate for runs because the openers failed you?
if it didn't then its a useless comparison.
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The only useless is the performance of Asif and the mindset of the fans who have the audacity to compare Asif and Babar and have the nerve to claim that Asif would have been a match winner for Pakistan if Babar didn’t help him back 🤡
 
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It is interesting that the same people who support Asif Ali also support Azam Khan, Sharjeel and Haris.

I don’t see anyone supporting one or two out of these four. It is an all or none situation. Same applies to Amir and Imad as well.

An outcome of mental disorder combined with zero understanding of cricket.
 
Mamoon said:
It is interesting that the same people who support Asif Ali also support Azam Khan, Sharjeel and Haris.

I don’t see anyone supporting one or two out of these four. It is an all or none situation. Same applies to Amir and Imad as well.

An outcome of mental disorder combined with zero understanding of cricket.
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I hate azam, and disagree with asif Ali being captain or even a no 7. So I'm an exception.

Sharjeel I believe deserves a call up because he's been avg 50 with a sr of 133 in domestics recently. Before the series against England, Almost everyone was against sajid Khan coming back into the playing 11 yet he turned out to be our best spinner. Infact even now people don't want sajid in odi due to his poor List A record yet he was the best bowler of the Champions one day cup, in otherwords he's clearly an improved player. Same mantra can apply for Sharjeel, He's never averaged 50 before in domestics.

As for Haris, I gave up my support for him in acc, i feel usman khan is a better and brighter prospect.

As for Imad and Amir, I think sajid shpuld replace imad and Husnain shpuld replace Amir as their aged now, but neither Amir nor imad are as bad as people claim them to be. Regardless I don't wish to get into that.

Almost all my judgments are based of how a player is currently performing.

My judgment for imad was based on PSL. Same for sajid?

It's impossible to tell if said domestic performer will perform in international or not until they get the opportunity.
 
shariqnoor said:
Beware the day when Asif Ali with his 1% probability scores some runs at 200 SR. The OP will swarm this website like an ant to a sweet. As they say even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Oh my. As bad as Asif Ali is, even in my wildest dreams I didn't think this would actually relate to Hong King Sixes. :ROFLMAO:
 
I like Asif for non cricketing reasons. I like the fact that T20 cricket helped a young lad out of poverty and allowed him to travel the world and play cricket in leagues. I hope more of our players get the same opportunity.

However we can't be overly sentimental the overall assessment of Asif being a player not cut for international cricket is true.

Nevertheless I also feel strongly about two things.

1. Asif was misused. There was many matches where he would come out with 5 or less balls to play because the top order had tuk tukd and then "all rounders" were promoted up the order. If you don't trust Asif Ali to bat then don't select him and make the team unbalanced. It's bad captaincy and coaching.

2. Without a doubt Asif has won more important T20 matches for Pakistan than Babar and Rizwan. They have largely flopped in WC apart from 152-0 whereas Asif propelled us into the semi finals with two blistering knocks. Rizwan and Babar rested on their laurels far too much in T20 cricket.
 
Mamoon said:
Asif Ali averages 15 in T20 internationals after 51 innings.

Furthermore, he does not average more than 28 in any domestic format (FC, LA, T20) in spite of being 33 and having played more than 300+ domestic matches.

But apparently, Babar did not let him flourish and he is responsible for the Pakistani Jos Buttler’s tailender like output.

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That 15 average at a near 135 S/R overall saved you from a humiliating defeat against the mighty Afghans. Give him a long rope as an opener and we can judge what sort of scores we achieve in the PP because that’s how you ought to judge openers opposed to getting the lube out over their stats; we saw how well they worked against the USA
 
shaz619 said:
That 15 average at a near 135 S/R overall saved you from a humiliating defeat against the mighty Afghans. Give him a long rope as an opener and we can judge what sort of scores we achieve in the PP because that’s how you ought to judge openers opposed to getting the lube out over their stats; we saw how well they worked against the USA
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The only long rope that he needs is the one with which he can hang himself for averaging 15 after 51 matches.
 
This is also part of the mental sickness. Anyone who is an abysmal failure should open the innings. Why? Failing in other positions doesn’t mean you have the right to open the innings now. It isn’t your dad’s team.

Just because it worked for Rizwan doesn’t mean it will work for others or others are entitled to it. We have to understand that Misbah and Babar took a punt with Rizwan because they couldn’t drop him because he was the best wicket-keeper in the country and there were no alternatives, so they took a chance with him and it paid off.

Thankfully Saim Ayub got an extended run as T20I opener and still failed. I can guarantee that if he was played in a different position, the usual ignoramuses would have used his batting position as an excuse for his failure and would have claimed that Babar is selfish for not letting him open. Now they are all quiet.
 
shaz619 said:
That 15 average at a near 135 S/R overall saved you from a humiliating defeat against the mighty Afghans. Give him a long rope as an opener and we can judge what sort of scores we achieve in the PP because that’s how you ought to judge openers opposed to getting the lube out over their stats; we saw how well they worked against the USA
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He ain't that guy. Would rather invest in someone else as an opener.

Not good enough for international cricket especially up the order despite those two magic moments he created.
 
Mamoon said:
The only long rope that he needs is the one with which he can hang himself for averaging 15 after 51 matches.
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He should use it to strangle certain so called Pakistan fans and maybe his holiness Babar himself for using him as a utility batter and promoting himself/his-bestie to perform in roles which they were never equipped to handle well, it’s why they feared the USA in the super over, just like to pad their numbers against bum of the weak but not when it mattered most….
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He ain't that guy. Would rather invest in someone else as an opener.

Not good enough for international cricket especially up the order despite those two magic moments he created.
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I’ve not looked into the present options but I know for a fact Ali wasn’t utilised well, and whoever you pick as openers, they ought to maximise the PP overs right; Pakistan are the worst team for runs scored during this vital period, why doesn’t anyone bang on about those numbers?
 
shaz619 said:
I’ve not looked into the present options but I know for a fact Ali wasn’t utilised well, and whoever you pick as openers, they ought to maximise the PP overs right; Pakistan are the worst team for runs scored during this vital period, why doesn’t anyone bang on about those numbers?
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And when you looked into AA did you realise that the guy can't play anything over 80 mph. His batting in the T20 WC in the final was an embarrassment. Not every bowls 1/2 volleys at 80 mph.
 
Mamoon said:
This is also part of the mental sickness. Anyone who is an abysmal failure should open the innings. Why? Failing in other positions doesn’t mean you have the right to open the innings now. It isn’t your dad’s team.

Just because it worked for Rizwan doesn’t mean it will work for others or others are entitled to it. We have to understand that Misbah and Babar took a punt with Rizwan because they couldn’t drop him because he was the best wicket-keeper in the country and there were no alternatives, so they took a chance with him and it paid off.

Thankfully Saim Ayub got an extended run as T20I opener and still failed. I can guarantee that if he was played in a different position, the usual ignoramuses would have used his batting position as an excuse for his failure and would have claimed that Babar is selfish for not letting him open. Now they are all quiet.
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Saim is a talented player and still early to make final judgements. He needs to stop the brand building and look to build innings. Averaging 20 helps no one
 
Why are we talking about Asif Ali in 2024? that too in a captaincy discussion?

the guy is genuinely nice and all I am sure but he has shown to have a very low cricket IQ.
 
Stewie said:
Why are we talking about Asif Ali in 2024? that too in a captaincy discussion?

the guy is genuinely nice and all I am sure but he has shown to have a very low cricket IQ.
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Well some are claiming that Asif Ali would have ensured a Pakistan victory against USA.
 
Bewal Express said:
And when you looked into AA did you realise that the guy can't play anything over 80 mph. His batting in the T20 WC in the final was an embarrassment. Not every bowls 1/2 volleys at 80 mph.
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I wanted to look into that but then realised both Babar and Rizwan couldn’t handle <80mph against the USA in their preferred positions (not the super over off course).
 
The ship may have sailed with Asif due to his severe mis-use, but we ought to want somebody with some of key attributes of Asif Ali which qualify you to open and represent the manner in which the T20 cricket should be played, sure if more can be added to the bow why not; if you can’t grasp something so straight forward due to retar£ation, then this may explain why the batters you support quit against the USA and surrendered a straight forward chase against India. You lot act like you hold all the ICC trophies available, choke after choke, bent over every single time and you still don’t learn, perhaps you enjoy getting bent.
 
I can understand being a part of the cult and shouting Babar/Rizwan Zindabad while superficial records are being broken and stats are looking nice, heck I may be have been a part of that, but after the shocking defeats and looking into the team more closely, like Neo, I chose to take the red pill and saw the fallacy before me, since then, the team has plunged to extreme lows. Why are you not capable of altering your mind when the truth is before you, stop getting caught up in the social media hype or shape your ideas based on the scores you have to settle with various posters.
 
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shaz619 said:
I wanted to look into that but then realised both Babar and Rizwan couldn’t handle <80mph against the USA in their preferred positions (not the super over off course).
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Really? You have never seen Babar and Riz hit guys over 80mph. Which games have you watched. Maybe look at the game against Ind in the WC when we won by 10 wickets.
 
Instead of captain, I wish we had utilized him as an opener in T20Is he would have been at Rohit Sharma's level in T20Is today.
 
Asif Ali was handled badly in Pakistan because look Asif Ali smashed Kedhar Jadav, Shahbaz Nadeem, Akif Raja in Hong Kong on 30 metre boundaries as opener. Amazing. 👏
 
shariqnoor said:
Asif Ali was handled badly in Pakistan because look Asif Ali smashed Kedhar Jadav, Shahbaz Nadeem, Akif Raja in Hong Kong on 30 metre boundaries as opener. Amazing. 👏
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Much better than your beloved Misbah
 
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shariqnoor said:
Asif Ali was handled badly in Pakistan because look Asif Ali smashed Kedhar Jadav, Shahbaz Nadeem, Akif Raja in Hong Kong on 30 metre boundaries as opener. Amazing. 👏
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It's possible ( and true) that Asif Ali was a poor player AND he was misused.

Sometimes our strategy of promoting all rounders over players who were in the team as specialist bats was baffling.

I remember in a match against England that Butcher was baffled as to when Asif came out to bat.

If the team management didn't trust Asif to bat before the 17th- 18th over they shouldn't have selected him.

Only Pakistan seemed to have the notion that you can have a player who is buried in the batting order so late.
 
Rana said:
Please don’t shoot me down.

I think it’s the only way this guy will secure a position in the team and the only way he can best utilise himself!

He is a selfless player and plays 100% for Pakistan’s win. He wasn’t too bad when he was appointed captain by IU as well.

Let’s move on from uninspiring Babar Azam and Rizwan after the World Cup!
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Post 1.

Still stand by this.
 
emranabbas said:
That was 3 years ago and its history what have they done since?
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His point was that Babar can't play pace and as we know he can because you dont average over 40 in all formats if you cant. On the other hand, AA could never play pace. The guy has never shown anything in any format that he is even a FC player. And his specialist fornat, He averages 15 with a SR of 133 in T20. An average that you would expect from no 8 that bowls his full quota of overs.
 
Bewal Express said:
Really? You have never seen Babar and Riz hit guys over 80mph. Which games have you watched. Maybe look at the game against Ind in the WC when we won by 10 wickets.
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Keep telling yourself that, it’s like the recent World Cup didn’t happen, it was all a dream,
 
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Bewal Express said:
His point was that Babar can't play pace and as we know he can because you dont average over 40 in all formats if you cant. On the other hand, AA could never play pace. The guy has never shown anything in any format that he is even a FC player. And his specialist fornat, He averages 15 with a SR of 133 in T20. An average that you would expect from no 8 that bowls his full quota of overs.
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Babar struggles against pace; his options are often limited to blocking or hitting a cover drive


An average of 15 is expected from a batter coming in the last two overs when the team is desperate for runs, often because Babar and Rizwan used up many balls playing test cricket in a T20 match.

With five fielders on the boundary, the incoming player has no option but to take risky shots to quickly add runs, often leading to a cheap dismissal.

Had Babar and Rizwan accelerated earlier while only three fielders were outside the 30-yard circle batters coming after them wouldn’t need to take as many risks to build the score and get our cheaply in the process
 
Bewal Express said:
His point was that Babar can't play pace and as we know he can because you dont average over 40 in all formats if you cant. On the other hand, AA could never play pace. The guy has never shown anything in any format that he is even a FC player. And his specialist fornat, He averages 15 with a SR of 133 in T20. An average that you would expect from no 8 that bowls his full quota of overs.
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Babar has played 110 powerplays in t20 and he only managed to hit 8 sixes 🤣

He can only block pace or hot pace for cover drive

Here is my sauce you like BBQ or ketchup

 
Babar and Rizwan might be the most effeminate T20 openers in the history of cricket.

Ibrahim Zadran might be the 3rd one. Pathum Nissanka is 4th.
 
emranabbas said:
Babar struggles against pace; his options are often limited to blocking or hitting a cover drive


An average of 15 is expected from a batter coming in the last two overs when the team is desperate for runs, often because Babar and Rizwan used up many balls playing test cricket in a T20 match.

With five fielders on the boundary, the incoming player has no option but to take risky shots to quickly add runs, often leading to a cheap dismissal.

Had Babar and Rizwan accelerated earlier while only three fielders were outside the 30-yard circle batters coming after them wouldn’t need to take as many risks to build the score and get our cheaply in the process
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AA bats at 7/8 because he can't batter higher. It's not a choice he made but it's the only place he offered anything and that didn't last and was dropped.
 
Bewal Express said:
And you think AA is better because he can a 6.🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Yes 100 percent

If he can clear the boundary with 5 fielders outside 30 yard circle while playing risky shots due to rizwan and babar playing slow then it's piece of cake a when only 3 fielders are outside the 30 yard circle and not playing risky shots
 
Imagine bumping this thread to make fun of Asif Ali, but then having to relive the trauma and embarrassment of the USA fixture as a result :ROFLMAO:



Every action

Has a reaction.
 
Imagine Ramiz Raja and Wajahatullah Wasti as T20i openers…

They will probably strike it at the same pace as Babar and Rizwan do
 
Needing 18 runs off 6 balls against Natravalker


Guess who hid like cowards in the dug out? The two curses Babar and Rizwan did! They would have tried if only 2 fielders were allowed outside, not 5….

Even then, they would not get the runs!
 
emranabbas said:
Yes 100 percent

If he can clear the boundary with 5 fielders outside 30 yard circle while playing risky shots due to rizwan and babar playing slow then it's piece of cake a when only 3 fielders are outside the 30 yard circle and not playing risky shots
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So you think the teams would play 80mph bowlers that would bowl 1/2 volleys so that AA would hit them for 6 and not Bunrah, Cummins, Starc, Shami, Rabada, Archer and Wood. I wish I also believed in fairies.

Btw He has played a lot of franchise cricket, surely he could batted ar the top. So why didn't he?
 
emranabbas said:
But but but babar and rizwan beat India 3 years ago
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These nashukrey fools forgot it was Asif Ali who got them through into the semis. Not Babar and Rizwan.

Those two should have got out early too against Australia and we may have had Fakhar, Malik, Hafeez and AA bat longer to push towards 200, not 176
 
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Bewal Express said:
So you think the teams would play 80mph bowlers that would bowl 1/2 volleys so that AA would hit them for 6 and not Bunrah, Cummins, Starc, Shami, Rabada, Archer and Wood. I wish I also believed in fairies.

Btw He has played a lot of franchise cricket, surely he could batted ar the top. So why didn't he?
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The faster the bowler, the easier it is to hit a six since batter uses the bowler's speed to help clear the boundary.

Good power-hitters do this all the time, timing the ball perfectly to send it flying.

But that’s skills Babar dont have —he doesn’t quite have that knack for turning fast deliveries into big hits. So he struggles to play pace

Only blocking and cover drives

The reason why shoaib akhtar use to get smashed was his pace
 
Rana said:
Needing 18 runs off 6 balls against Natravalker


Guess who hid like cowards in the dug out? The two curses Babar and Rizwan did! They would have tried if only 2 fielders were allowed outside, not 5….

Even then, they would not get the runs!
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Who opened the batting for England the Super over in the WC final? Was it the openers or guys down the order? Was Root a coward, was Roy a Coward, what about Bairstow. This post alone shows what you know about cricket. What about NZ? Did they keep the same pair?
 
Rana said:
These nashukrey fools forgot it was Asif Ali who got them through into the semis. Not Babar and Rizwan.

Those two laantis should have got out early too against Australia and we may have had Fakhar, Malik, Hafeez and AA bat longer to push towards 200, not 176
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So AA did his job of hitting 80mph bowlers. And BTW of he couldn't do that with an average of 15, why was he in the team.
 
emranabbas said:
The faster the bowler, the easier it is to hit a six since batter uses the bowler's speed to help clear the boundary.

Good power-hitters do this all the time, timing the ball perfectly to send it flying.

But that’s skills Babar dont have —he doesn’t quite have that knack for turning fast deliveries into big hits. So he struggles to play pace

Only blocking and cover drives

The reason why shoaib akhtar use to get smashed was his pace
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So why hasn't he done that at the franchise level if it was so easy. I am all ears
 
Bewal Express said:
Who opened the batting for England the Super over in the WC final? Was it the openers or guys down the order? Was Root a coward, was Roy a Coward, what about Bairstow. This post alone shows what you know about cricket. What about NZ? Did they keep the same pair?
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But Root and Roy aren’t celebrated as the saviors of English cricket.

Meanwhile, the two players hailed as the saviors of Pakistan cricket went missing when it was time to step up and actually save Pakistan cricket.
 
emranabbas said:
But Root and Roy aren’t celebrated as the saviors of English cricket.

Meanwhile, the two players hailed as the saviors of Pakistan cricket went missing when it was time to step up and actually save Pakistan cricket.
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So if I understand correctly, you are bitter that others like them.Well you don't have to celebrate them. And you and the your friends don't have any other suggestions. Look at the suggestions that you guys give- AA averages 15 and can't hit anything over 80mph and wants the opposition not to play anyone over 80mph, then a fat guy that looks like an advert for big Macs, that also fixes Matches. Who are these guys that should have replaced them. We tried Saim at the top and could barely get a run.
 
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emranabbas said:
But Root and Roy aren’t celebrated as the saviors of English cricket.

Meanwhile, the two players hailed as the saviors of Pakistan cricket went missing when it was time to step up and actually save Pakistan cricket.
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BTW
Root is the greatest batsman England have ever produced🤣🤣🤣
 
Thank you USA for always providing arrogant Pakistanis with the greatest reality checks time after time.

God bless America baby!
 
Bewal Express said:
So why hasn't he done that at the franchise level if it was so easy. I am all ears
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Asif Ali made his debut for Faisalabad in 2011, batting at number three, and scored a century in his first T20 match.

When he debuted in T20Is against the West Indies in 2018, he batted at number four, with Babar and Fakhar opening and Hussain Talat at three under Sarfaraz's captaincy.

So why is he now batting at number seven?

Because that's how babar mold him and that's how he's playing now

Hope that answers your franchise question you keep asking and now tell me why he playing 7 down?
 
emranabbas said:
Asif Ali made his debut for Faisalabad in 2011, batting at number three, and scored a century in his first T20 match.

When he debuted in T20Is against the West Indies in 2018, he batted at number four, with Babar and Fakhar opening and Hussain Talat at three under Sarfaraz's captaincy.

So why is he now batting at number seven?

Because that's how babar mold him and that's how he's playing now

Hope that answers your franchise question you keep asking and now tell me why he playing 7 down?
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OK. So why didn't he bat in the top 4 in franchise cricket. Did Babar phone all the franchises in the World and tell them not to bat him in the top 4.🤣🤣🥰
 
Anyone can suggest anybody for captaincy like Asif Ali was named.
In the real world, things do not work like this.

Asif Ali has to make his way into he team ahead of the likes of Salman ali agha or Irfan niazi who have been working hard and have performed better than many which is why they are in the team.

Suggest asif ali first that he should perform at whatever stage he gets an opportunity at.
 
Asif Ali coming out as opener with blindly swinging his bat is like day dreaming nothing else!

imagine a team with Asif Ali, Sharjeel, Azam, Imad more chances of this crap 4 reeling to 0/4 in 4 deliveries.

Based on 2 flukes Asif Ali is categorized as some WI maestro, and dont forget the crap Imad Wasim did vs Ind.
 
The truth is Abdullah, Rizwan, Babar, Imam, Chacha are all stuck in the 70's.

Even the current crop like saim, Kamran Ghulam, Saud are more suited for test and are stuck in the 90's for odi.

Odi cricket does need accumulators unlike t20, but it only needs 1 or 2.

Pakistan badly needs players like Usman Khan, Fakhar Zaman type players to succeed and compete in the international circuit.

Also off topic but I'd still have asif Ali over Hasebullah, Hasebullah is the biggest rubbish I've ever seen.

An odi tOp 4 of

1) Abdullah
2) Saim
3) Babar
4) Rizwan

^^ Is a recipe for disaster. You're ensuring 200 scores in an era of 330
 
You can suggest, but this suggestion says everything about your mindset, intentions, character and intelligence.
 
How can anyone seriously support Asif Ali? He’s not only failed to deliver at the international level but has also struggled in domestic cricket. His batting averages are in the 20s across all three formats, which is hardly impressive. For a player who’s been around for a while, it’s clear he hasn’t proven himself to be a reliable asset for any level of the game.
 
If you ever need a good laugh, just come back and read this thread over and over again!
 
If you ever need a good laugh, you can watch Rizwan’s 55 off 49 v Sri Lanka in the Asia cup final

A masterclass on how to make the required rr go from 8 an over to 15 an over without any discomfort.
 
Rizwanophobia seems , some posters have this syndrome , whatever the discussion is they divert it cunningly.

End of an era for Asif Ali
 
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