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Can Asif Ali be a better Pakistan's T20I captain than Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan?

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Bewal Express said:
So AA did his job of hitting 80mph bowlers. And BTW of he couldn't do that with an average of 15, why was he in the team.
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The why was he in the team is the key question.

Either way you look at it Babar regime looks clueless.

Either Asif Ali was a good player that was misused.

Or the Pakistani think tank developed a T20 strategy that involved inventing a new role for a player having a player at number 8 as a two ball specialist batter.

Of course he shouldn't be an opener nor a captain but we need to go back and wonder what the hell we were playing at with this tuk tuk and then hope Chacha and Asif score strategy.
 
Asif Ali is just an example of a guy who discovered his potential too late (or we discovered his). Had he been younger he could have more developed his game and technique. The power and timing was there.

It’s a shame but what can you do. He’s had a very decent career in domestic and psl and moments in internationals for a guy who was pretty much unheard of until 27.
 
Kianig89 said:
Rizwanophobia seems , some posters have this syndrome , whatever the discussion is they divert it cunningly.

End of an era for Asif Ali
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Asif Ali is basically a nobody as a player! Hard to believe this thread has over 400 replies-it’s honestly hilarious!
 
Mamoon said:
Based on the fact that he has actually won a World Cup match for Pakistan vs India which Shoaib was never good enough to do so.

Peak Shaheen with the new ball was as good as Wasim with the new ball.
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I don't think a T20 game is enough to conclude that. You'd agree that format involves the least amount of skill and temperament and more luck.

And if we are counting T20 World cup matches then surely 2009 Final holds more significant for Pakistan as they had never won before or after 2009 one. In that game Mohammad Amir bowled well. In fact Amir also won Pakistan CT17 in that sense because of his bowling in the Final.

New ball in limited overs I agree. Shaheen has been or was best for Pakistan after Wasim. But with red ball it's a different situation.
 
In this thread, everyone who looks to point fingers will have 1 million fingers pointing right back at them!
 
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Shaheen = Wasim as a new ball bowler? Hahahahahahahaha.

Only person comparable was prime 2009 amir and ct final 2017 amir, but amir was never as consistent. Amd amir wasn't even close to wasim in the middle and death overs.

Infact Unar gul onsong in t20 can be considered the closest to wasim due to reverse swing but even then he wasnt as consistent.

Shaheen is far far far away from the hierarchy of the top tiers. Be it new ball bowling, middle overs bowling or reverse swing and death bowling
 
Rana said:
“Nothings going for us these days, let’s bump the Asif Ali thread”


*Relive the trauma of 43 off 41 against USA as a result
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USA game was definitely a trauma because players in the mould of Asif Ali Usman & Azam only managed 3 in 4 deliveries.

3/2 @ SR75
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Please stop.


One game and it’s “peak shaheen”, meanwhile you’re still waiting for Babar to hit his peak.
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The closest person to Prime wasim was Umar Gul when he was onsong but only in t20.

During the early days of t20, gul was very very good in using reverse swing and reverse swing is a concept not well heard of in t20.

Gul proved why bowling line and length with swing is effective in t20 as moat bowlers in t20 change their lengths to bait batters.

Naseem Shah also tried this line and length tactic in t20 and obviously flopped like a fish.

Beyond that, Amir's killer inswing is on par with wasim.

Gul was comparable to wasim in reverse swing and Amir comparable in inswing.
 
“Let’s bash Rana because he has been owning us 99.9% of the time by trying to make fun of Asif Ali”

*left red faced having to justify 55 off 49 against Sri Lanka
 
mominsaigol said:
Shaheen = Wasim as a new ball bowler? Hahahahahahahaha.

Only person comparable was prime 2009 amir and ct final 2017 amir, but amir was never as consistent. Amd amir wasn't even close to wasim in the middle and death overs.

Infact Unar gul onsong in t20 can be considered the closest to wasim due to reverse swing but even then he wasnt as consistent.

Shaheen is far far far away from the hierarchy of the top tiers. Be it new ball bowling, middle overs bowling or reverse swing and death bowling
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Shaheen’s first over vs Australia in the T20 WC SF is the highest level of new ball bowling possible. Australian top order were wetting their spandex.

Gul was great with the old ball but ordinary with the new ball.
 
Serious questions worth pondering:

Can Babar Azam hit sixes at the Hong Kong sixes ground?

Will Rizwan strike at 100 in the powerplay against the legends sides?
 
What’s a more sillier suggestion? To make Asif Ali captain of the T20 side or to make Babar Azam captain of all 3 formats because of a nice cover drive?
 
Rana said:
What’s a more sillier suggestion? To make Asif Ali captain of the T20 side or to make Babar Azam captain of all 3 formats because of a nice cover drive?
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A garbage cricketer like Asif shouldn’t even be in the reserves, so nominating him for captaincy is the west opinion in the history of this forum.
 
Mamoon said:
A garbage cricketer like Asif shouldn’t even be in the reserves, so nominating him for captaincy is the west opinion in the history of this forum.
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Do you want me to pull up your posts about Haider Ali???
 
Rana said:
What’s a more sillier suggestion? To make Asif Ali captain of the T20 side or to make Babar Azam captain of all 3 formats because of a nice cover drive?
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AA- a guy that averages 15, Babar would have been captain irrespective of who was PM or board chair, even Naqvi Let that sink in.
 
Rana said:
Do you want me to pull up your posts about Haider Ali???
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Haider Ali is Viv Richards compared to Asif Ali.

His career is over but he had promise at one point and he could have been developed in the right circumstances with the right guidance.

Asif Ali was a gone case by the time he got picked by Pakistan.
 
“Please don’t shoot me down.

I think it’s the only way this guy will secure a position in the team and the only way he can best utilise himself!

He is a selfless player and plays 100% for Pakistan’s win. He wasn’t too bad when he was appointed captain by IU as well.

Let’s move on from uninspiring Babar Azam and Rizwan after the World Cup!”

This is post 1 @BouncerGuy

Why do you feel the need now to defend those two frauds? It’s getting a bit too hot now that everything is starting to make sense from my end?
 
Rana said:
“Please don’t shoot me down.

I think it’s the only way this guy will secure a position in the team and the only way he can best utilise himself!

He is a selfless player and plays 100% for Pakistan’s win. He wasn’t too bad when he was appointed captain by IU as well.

Let’s move on from uninspiring Babar Azam and Rizwan after the World Cup!”

This is post 1 @BouncerGuy

Why do you feel the need now to defend those two frauds? It’s getting a bit too hot now that everything is starting to make sense from my end?
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There is another way he can get a place in team and that is by performing.

Show me his performance worth a selection????
 
Question is Wheat
Answer is Grain

Suggestion is about Asif Ali as Captain so who.will he replace in the team what number he will bat at? Will he open the bowling in the PP and field at slip at the same time.
 
BouncerGuy said:
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Show me asif ali's performance so i can say that he deserves a place in the tram, forget about captaincy here
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The only team Babar and Rizwan should be in is the HOF XI that embarrassed the nation against USA, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Ireland. Plus the many times Pakistan couldn’t beat B/C string sides at home.
 
Rana said:
The only team Babar and Rizwan should be in is the HOF XI that embarrassed the nation against USA, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Ireland. Plus the many times Pakistan couldn’t beat B/C string sides at home.
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Rizwan should be the captain of Qudrat Ki Nizam 11.
 
BouncerGuy said:
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Show me asif ali's performance so i can say that he deserves a place in the tram, forget about captaincy here
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Rana said:
The only team Babar and Rizwan should be in is the HOF XI that embarrassed the nation against USA, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Ireland. Plus the many times Pakistan couldn’t beat B/C string sides at home.
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Watch the question again brother....
 
Rana said:
The person who suggested Babar is now in Adiala jail as qaidi 804.

He deserves 100 years more of incarceration for making this appointment. Add that to the thousand years he already has.
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He might be in jail and you might dislike his politics but he has done more in his life than you would even if you live a million times.
 
Rana said:
Babar and Rizwan are not T20 players! What am I saying that is wrong??!!
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For them, Babar is the greatest thing ti ever exist for pak and rizwan is the best wk batter and the 2nd best captain on the planet after Misbah ul Haq.

How dare you say their not t20 players.
 
Rana said:
Is that why Javed Afridi went all out to get Asif Ali at Peshawar Zalmi??
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Same reason why the great cricketing brain to Aqib recruited Rizwan, Azhar Ali and Salman Butt for LQ.

At least Javed Afridi is not a cricket person.
 
Under babars captaincy since 2019 only 3 players have played more 10 games as openers

Babar 71
Rizwan 68
Saim 11

Yet people are saying he's not responsible for destroying careers 2019-2024 that's 5 years that no one have been given a long run as an opener
 
Asif Ali is a bigger player than Babar and Rizwan , just unfortunate he could not make it at top level.

Babar 's bat added to the MCG 's legend room.

Shame the Australians for not identifying the gem Asif Ali.
 
Kianig89 said:
Asif Ali is a bigger player than Babar and Rizwan , just unfortunate he could not make it at top level.

Babar 's bat added to the MCG 's legend room.

Shame the Australians for not identifying the gem Asif Ali.
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Which bat did they use? The one where he scored 32 off 30 in the final?
 
emranabbas said:
Under babars captaincy since 2019 only 3 players have played more 10 games as openers

Babar 71
Rizwan 68
Saim 11

Yet people are saying he's not responsible for destroying careers 2019-2024 that's 5 years that no one have been given a long run as an opener
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Please show me where it is written that you have to give chances to different opening pairs? Why should they when Babar and Rizwan kept performing?

Also, Babar gave up his opening slot for Saim. If he didn’t, people like you would call him selfish and make excuses for Saim’s poor performance.
 
Kianig89 said:
Asif Ali is a bigger player than Babar and Rizwan , just unfortunate he could not make it at top level.

Babar 's bat added to the MCG 's legend room.

Shame the Australians for not identifying the gem Asif Ali.
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Neither asif, Babar or Rizwan get into Australian 11. That's a hard fact.

Inglis fits the whiteball style and format for Australia.

Carey's wtc innings alone × his performance against England + his ability to bat at no 7 puts him > Rizzu.

Rizzu will wanna bat at no 4 for aus and they'll slap his bhoota for such a request. No 4 belongs to steve smith
 
mominsaigol said:
Neither asif, Babar or Rizwan get into Australian 11. That's a hard fact.

Inglis fits the whiteball style and format for Australia.

Carey's wtc innings alone × his performance against England + his ability to bat at no 7 puts him > Rizzu.

Rizzu will wanna bat at no 4 for aus and they'll slap his bhoota for such a request. No 4 belongs to steve smith
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I hope Riz bats at 5 or 6.

I actually agree to everything in your post except for Carey. The guy is one of most average cricketer ever to play for Australia.
 
Mamoon said:
Please show me where it is written that you have to give chances to different opening pairs? Why should they when Babar and Rizwan kept performing?

Also, Babar gave up his opening slot for Saim. If he didn’t, people like you would call him selfish and make excuses for Saim’s poor performance.
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It's not Babar's dads team where deserving players don't get a chance. This is Pakistan's national team, and every Pakistani has the right to open if they can perform better than Babar and Rizwan and help win games for Pakistan. That's where its written.

And if you really want to see the truth, open your eyes and look at the stats since 2019, when Babar became captain. Only the likes of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka have openers who play at a slower pace than Babar and Rizwan.

Please explain how we're supposed to compete with bigger teams when we're falling behind due to Babar and Rizwan's sluggish scoring rate. or is it the likes of Travis head, Rohit Sharma etc don't know how to play t20?? and only babar and rizwan knows?

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Babar has 8 sixes in his entire T20 career as an opener but Gazza is sure that Babar can hit sixes in Hong Kong

Rizwan strikes at 98 in T20 world cups against the likes of USA, Canada, Ireland and Zimbabwe

But he will strike at 300 in the legends league according to Gazza.



This is the level of delusion you people have stooped to. There is NO chance Rizwan will even strike at 150 in the Surrey Slam for cricket clubs. He’s not a T20 player.
 
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Warning:

This thread is dedicated to Asif Ali. Please keep discussions focused on him and refrain from mentioning Mohammad Rizwan or Babar Azam. Also, avoid personal remarks.
 
emranabbas said:
It's not Babar's dads team where deserving players don't get a chance. This is Pakistan's national team, and every Pakistani has the right to open if they can perform better than Babar and Rizwan and help win games for Pakistan. That's where its written.

And if you really want to see the truth, open your eyes and look at the stats since 2019, when Babar became captain. Only the likes of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka have openers who play at a slower pace than Babar and Rizwan.

Please explain how we're supposed to compete with bigger teams when we're falling behind due to Babar and Rizwan's sluggish scoring rate. or is it the likes of Travis head, Rohit Sharma etc don't know how to play t20?? and only babar and rizwan knows?

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You don’t need an IQ of more than 100 to realize that Babar and Rizwan are the best available pair for Pakistan.

Giving examples of openers from other countries is pointless because these two aren’t competing with them for opening position.

Their competition is other Pakistani batsmen and that competition is laughable.

When you ask people who should open they come up with hilarious names like Asif Ali, Haris and Sharjeel.

They also talk about Fakhar who has a poor SR of 136 as opener. Saim Ayub has a SR of 122.

Only those who are completely blind cannot see that Babar and Rizwan pair is the best we have got. It is not perfect but it is better than the alternatives and that is all that matters.
 
Mamoon said:
You don’t need an IQ of more than 100 to realize that Babar and Rizwan are the best available pair for Pakistan.
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How can you say that Rizwan and Babar are the best opening pair in Pakistan when no one else has had the opportunity to play in that position for the past five years? Who are you comparing them to, aside from making assumptions?

Mamoon said:
Giving examples of openers from other countries is pointless because these two aren’t competing with them for opening position.
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yes it matters they may not be competing for an opening position in the team with those players but they are playing against them, all those openers are stronger and better than Rizwan and Babar and you think with this pair we will beat teams like Australia newzealand etc..

Mamoon said:
Their competition is other Pakistani batsmen and that competition is laughable.
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It's laughable because most of the batsmen are forced to play out of position or play catch-up since Rizwan and Babar can't match the pace at which other international openers play during the powerplay, when only three fielders are allowed outside the 30-yard circle.

Mamoon said:
When you ask people who should open they come up with hilarious names like Asif Ali, Haris and Sharjeel.
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Yes, people are eager for Pakistan to win and will suggest any names, but for the past five years, we've stuck with the same combination of Rizwan and Babar, and it hasn't worked. Babar has only managed to hit 8 sixes during the powerplay, where most openers take full advantage of the limited fielders on the boundary.

Mamoon said:
They also talk about Fakhar who has a poor SR of 136 as opener. Saim Ayub has a SR of 122.
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You can't fairly judge Fakhar based on just 1 or 2 series; the poor guy hasn't even had the chance to play 10 matches as an opener.

Mamoon said:
Only those who are completely blind cannot see that Babar and Rizwan pair is the best we have got. It is not perfect but it is better than the alternatives and that is all that matters.
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No, we don’t, because we haven’t given anyone else a long run in those positions, so there's no basis for comparison between Rizwan and Babar and others.

What alternatives? Have any of the other options been given more than 10+ games like Rizwan and Babar?

P.S. I hope you understand what a powerplay is, how many fielders are allowed outside the circle during it, and that the first powerplay is the easiest phase to score due to less fielders compared to the final one.
 
mominsaigol said:
Neither asif, Babar or Rizwan get into Australian 11. That's a hard fact.

Inglis fits the whiteball style and format for Australia.

Carey's wtc innings alone × his performance against England + his ability to bat at no 7 puts him > Rizzu.

Rizzu will wanna bat at no 4 for aus and they'll slap his bhoota for such a request. No 4 belongs to steve smith
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Did Steve Smith get into the Aus team ? How many games did he play and what was hid SR and average
Mamoon said:
You don’t need an IQ of more than 100 to realize that Babar and Rizwan are the best available pair for Pakistan.

Giving examples of openers from other countries is pointless because these two aren’t competing with them for opening position.

Their competition is other Pakistani batsmen and that competition is laughable.

When you ask people who should open they come up with hilarious names like Asif Ali, Haris and Sharjeel.

They also talk about Fakhar who has a poor SR of 136 as opener. Saim Ayub has a SR of 122.

Only those who are completely blind cannot see that Babar and Rizwan pair is the best we have got. It is not perfect but it is better than the alternatives and that is all that matters.
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I havd made these points and on many occasions but alas it's a point that doesn't register. I too would love Travis and Rohit opening the batting but instead our next best option is Imam or according to the resident expert, a fat match fixer, that averages around 20.
 
Bewal Express said:
Did Steve Smith get into the Aus team ? How many games did he play and what was hid SR and average

I havd made these points and on many occasions but alas it's a point that doesn't register. I too would love Travis and Rohit opening the batting but instead our next best option is Imam or according to the resident expert, a fat match fixer, that averages around 20.
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Did steve smith get into aus team? Yes, he's their main player? What are you even talking about?
 
emranabbas said:
How can you say that Rizwan and Babar are the best opening pair in Pakistan when no one else has had the opportunity to play in that position for the past five years? Who are you comparing them to, aside from making assumptions?
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Others will have to put their hands up and force their way in. The only who did so in the last few years was Saim, and even he failed. His SR is in the 120s, which is lower than Babar and Rizwan.

Every year, we witness the same story in PSL. Babar and Rizwan prove themselves to be the best T20 openers in the country and others fail.

Since returning from his ban, Sharjeel got two or three full PSL seasons as opener and he failed. What stopped him from out-performing Babar and Rizwan?

What stopped Fakhar from performing as an opener for LQ last season?
emranabbas said:
yes it matters they may not be competing for an opening position in the team with those players but they are playing against them, all those openers are stronger and better than Rizwan and Babar and you think with this pair we will beat teams like Australia newzealand etc..
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Again, you don’t compete for a place in the team with players from other countries. Your competition is always local. The Pakistani competition for Babar and Rizwan is poor. Hence, they are right the choice to open. What is so hard to understand?
emranabbas said:
It's laughable because most of the batsmen are forced to play out of position or play catch-up since Rizwan and Babar can't match the pace at which other international openers play during the powerplay, when only three fielders are allowed outside the 30-yard circle.
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Rubbish excuse. I can guarantee you that if Saim played at 3 or 4 in T20Is and failed, people like you would have used the “out of position” excuse. Now that he has opened and failed, you have nowhere to hide.
emranabbas said:
Yes, people are eager for Pakistan to win and will suggest any names, but for the past five years, we've stuck with the same combination of Rizwan and Babar, and it hasn't worked. Babar has only managed to hit 8 sixes during the powerplay, where most openers take full advantage of the limited fielders on the boundary.
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Suggesting random names, especially of those who have failed with flying colors, isn’t the solution. As I said above, players have to put their hands up and perform in domestic/PSL to throw their hat in the ring. The only who did was Saim and guess what, he got a chance and an extended one.
emranabbas said:
You can't fairly judge Fakhar based on just 1 or 2 series; the poor guy hasn't even had the chance to play 10 matches as an opener.
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How clueless are you?

Fakhar has played 37 T20Is as opener and his SR is 136.

Fakhar averages a rubbish 22 at a SR of 136.

Babar and Rizwan average almost twice as much at a similar SR. Hence, it is clear they are far better openers in the T20 format than Fakhar.

emranabbas said:
No, we don’t, because we haven’t given anyone else a long run in those positions, so there's no basis for comparison between Rizwan and Babar and others.

What alternatives? Have any of the other options been given more than 10+ games like Rizwan and Babar?
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I have literally answered these twice above.
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P.S. I hope you understand what a powerplay is, how many fielders are allowed outside the circle during it, and that the first powerplay is the easiest phase to score due to less fielders compared to the final one.
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I understand what a powerplay is, but unfortunately, you don’t understand how cricket works and more importantly, you don’t understand how team selection is done.

Apart from Saim, no player has done anything to break the Babar-Rizwan pair.
 
Bewal Express said:
Yes. He played 60 odd games averaged 25.
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When did that happen? He averages 43 with a sr of 87 in odi and in test he has one of the best all time stats of all time?

Or are you referring to his early days when he batted at no 9/10 as a leg spinner? 🤣🤣
 
mominsaigol said:
When did that happen? He averages 43 with a sr of 87 in odi and in test he has one of the best all time stats of all time?

Or are you referring to his early days when he batted at no 9/10 as a leg spinner? 🤣🤣
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I was talking about T20. Isn't that your gripe with Babar. Babar averages 50+ in ODI with a SR of 88. Are you telling us Babar wouldn't make the Aussie team with those stats in the middle order. Which planet are you on?
 
Bewal Express said:
I was talking about T20. Isn't that your gripe with Babar. Babar averages 50+ in ODI with a SR of 88. Are you telling us Babar wouldn't make the Aussie team with those stats in the middle order. Which planet are you on?
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Why would Australia want Babar even though they have smashed Pakistan and won most of their cricket without him in the first place?

It’s Australia, not Austria!
 
Rana said:
Why would Australia want Babar even though they have smashed Pakistan and won most of their cricket without him in the first place?

It’s Australia, not Austria!
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Because he is a brilliant player that averages 50+ over a lot of matches . But this was in response to your friend who said he wouldnt get into the Aussie team with his statistics.
 
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Bewal Express said:
I was talking about T20. Isn't that your gripe with Babar. Babar averages 50+ in ODI with a SR of 88. Are you telling us Babar wouldn't make the Aussie team with those stats in the middle order. Which planet are you on?
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Okay? Smith isn't even in the t20 team atm and was dropped in wc 2024 by Australia? So why are you talking about T20?

In my above comment I didn't mention Babar or T20?

And No Babar doesn't make the aussie odi team. Steve smith has won wc 2015 and wtc 2023 for his side. 2015 was won singlehandedly and 2023 was won with Travis head.

These 2 achievements are automatically superior to Babar's entire career.

Babar’s avg and sr significantly drops when faced with A string sides.

For example just look at his statistics in wc 2023, and Asia cup 2023 minus the Nepal game? His stats in 2017 ct and 2019 wc are mwdicore as he only performed in one major game in 2019 against NZ and performed a bit in the final of 2017.

The reason Babar avg 32 against India in odi is because India is the one team Babar has never had the privedlge to play c string against as India and pakistan only play in tournaments.

Meanwhile steve smith has multiple 100's againat India, Most notably wc 2015, wtc 2023 and 62 ball 100 in 2020 against India.

Look at the series Babar azam has played and padded against

1) club level bowling from West indies in 2016-2017
2) C string sri lanka side in 2018 and 2020
3) C string NZ side numerous times which didn't include their big guns like rachin, Conway etc etc.
4) C string Australia in 2019.

Remove these C string series Babar would avg 32 lol

This is why you need to actually watch games rather then spouting rubbish 24/7. Imam ul Haq stats wise avg 48 and 82 sr in odi while pointing avg 40 and 80 sr.

So unless you think Imam > Pointing, Then I'd suggest you actually watch games.

Steve smith and Babar are not comparable in odi and test. Smith is miles ahead of babar.

In t20 Smith isn't in the team atm, and babar wouldn't make it in t20. It's only pakistan he can get away with rubbish
 
Bewal Express said:
Because he is a brilliant player that averages 50+ over a lot of matches . But this was in response to your friend who said he wouldnt get into the Aussie team with his statistics.
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He wouldn't, in the same way Imam wouldn't get in with a 48 avg and 82 sr and in the way rizwan wouldn't get in with a 40 avg
 
mominsaigol said:
Okay? Smith isn't even in the t20 team atm and was dropped in wc 2024 by Australia? So why are you talking about T20?

In my above comment I didn't mention Babar or T20?

And No Babar doesn't make the aussie odi team. Steve smith has won wc 2015 and wtc 2023 for his side. 2015 was won singlehandedly and 2023 was won with Travis head.

These 2 achievements are automatically superior to Babar's entire career.

Babar’s avg and sr significantly drops when faced with A string sides.

For example just look at his statistics in wc 2023, and Asia cup 2023 minus the Nepal game? His stats in 2017 ct and 2019 wc are mwdicore as he only performed in one major game in 2019 against NZ and performed a bit in the final of 2017.

The reason Babar avg 32 against India in odi is because India is the one team Babar has never had the privedlge to play c string against as India and pakistan only play in tournaments.

Meanwhile steve smith has multiple 100's againat India, Most notably wc 2015, wtc 2023 and 62 ball 100 in 2020 against India.

Look at the series Babar azam has played and padded against

1) club level bowling from West indies in 2016-2017
2) C string sri lanka side in 2018 and 2020
3) C string NZ side numerous times which didn't include their big guns like rachin, Conway etc etc.
4) C string Australia in 2019.

Remove these C string series Babar would avg 32 lol

This is why you need to actually watch games rather then spouting rubbish 24/7. Imam ul Haq stats wise avg 48 and 82 sr in odi while pointing avg 40 and 80 sr.

So unless you think Imam > Pointing, Then I'd suggest you actually watch games.

Steve smith and Babar are not comparable in odi and test. Smith is miles ahead of babar.

In t20 Smith isn't in the team atm, and babar wouldn't make it in t20. It's only pakistan he can get away with rubbish
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"Neither asif, Babar or Rizwan get into Australian 11. That's a hard fact.
 
mominsaigol said:
He wouldn't, in the same way Imam wouldn't get in with a 48 avg and 82 sr and in the way rizwan wouldn't get in with a 40 avg
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I wouldn’t be surprised if that guy actually thinks Imam>>Ponting because of stats. This is the reality of their understanding of the game.
 
Rana said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if that guy actually thinks Imam>>Ponting because of stats. This is the reality of their understanding of the game.
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Imam is only > Pointing when it comes to giving Chawal responses to the press or trying to educate Brendon Mcullum on the art of batting.
 
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Imam is only > Pointing when it comes to giving Chawal responses to the press or trying to educate Brendon Mcullum on the art of batting.
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Oh yeah who can forget Imam’s masterclass on power hitting with Brendon McCullum. That was another one of those Wasim Khan era in which these crap players were being made out to look like proven ATGs.
 
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He wouldn't, in the same way Imam wouldn't get in with a 48 avg and 82 sr and in the way rizwan wouldn't get in with a 40 avg
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So the only players that would get are the ones you think should get in. You can research what the Aussie bowlers think of him. But off course a total nobody knows more 🤣🤣🤣
 
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