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Can Haris Sohail make a comeback to the Pakistan team?

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Abdullah719

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After an extended time out due to an injury (and subsequent mismanagement of the recovery), Haris finally seems to have recovered. He played for NCA XI against Malaysia today and performed well with a century and three wickets.

Will he eventually be able to make a comeback to the Pakistan team? Will his body be able to withstand the rigours of international cricket?
 
a good PSL and he should be back ASAP. We are such a rubbish side so we need him back quickly
 
Inshallah, a top 4 of umar, sharjeel, babar and haris can be very good...
 
Of course, he was selected for the 2015 WC, Indians rated him highly.
 
any player who performs can play in the national team, unless your name is fawad alam or sadaf hussain - as long as you dont do better than everyone else in the country, you can play it seems.

whats the purpose of this thread, isnt this just blatantly obvious? malaysia is nothing to get excited about, id bet half the 15 year olds writing on this board could hit a century and take three wickets against them. lets see how he does against some more serious competition.
 
godzilla said:
any player who performs can play in the national team, unless your name is fawad alam or sadaf hussain - as long as you dont do better than everyone else in the country, you can play it seems.

whats the purpose of this thread, isnt this just blatantly obvious? malaysia is nothing to get excited about, id bet half the 15 year olds writing on this board could hit a century and take three wickets against them. lets see how he does against some more serious competition.
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No one is getting excited because he made a few runs against Malaysia, the point is that he had the fitness to play the match, and play a long innings, and bowl as well.
 
Abdullah719 said:
No one is getting excited because he made a few runs against Malaysia, the point is that he had the fitness to play the match, and play a long innings, and bowl as well.
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i take that point. but what kind of debate are you expecting by asking if he can make a comeback? of course he can, if he performs. perhaps its just me not getting it.
 
godzilla said:
i take that point. but what kind of debate are you expecting by asking if he can make a comeback? of course he can, if he performs. perhaps its just me not getting it.
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Just for discussion to see how his performances go in future. His comeback wouldn't only depend on performance - fitness, the other batsmen's performances, team combination etc. all play a part.
 
I agree with everything you say [MENTION=3393]godzilla[/MENTION]. Imagine if Pakistan picked their players on performance, what their top order would look like, Fawad, Haris, Babar Sarfraz, Malik, Umar.
 
Too much hype. The guy is almost 30 I believe. I won't buy into the hype. We all know how previous 'future ATG's' panned out.
 
Abdullah719 said:
After an extended time out due to an injury (and subsequent mismanagement of the recovery), Haris finally seems to have recovered. He played for NCA XI against Malaysia today and performed well with a century and three wickets.

Will he eventually be able to make a comeback to the Pakistan team? Will his body be able to withstand the rigours of international cricket?
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Yes - I would rather play Haris than Hafeez or even Malik.

Better batsman than both and about just as good as a bowler as Malik and a non-chucking Hafeez.
 
in_cutter said:
Too much hype. The guy is almost 30 I believe. I won't buy into the hype. We all know how previous 'future ATG's' panned out.
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Just turned 28. If he puts his head down and works hard and takes care of his body, he can easily have a 6-8 year career.
 
DONOT bring him back unless he play one domestic season, one A team tour.
Donot play him in champions tropie plz. We will lose with or without him.

A little patience can help Haris avoid what happenes with Junaid and Ajmal.
 
He performed well in his short time carrier and he is the future of Pakistan as he has the ability to score runs and maneuver the score along with handy bowler. Needs to improve his fitness and a bot camp before selected for the international team.
 
in_cutter said:
Too much hype. The guy is almost 30 I believe. I won't buy into the hype. We all know how previous 'future ATG's' panned out.
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First of all Haris just turned 28. Even if He is 30 so what's the problem ?


This is Younis Khan's Test Record after turning 30 on 29th november 2003


So say if Haris plays 40 Tests stays fit, performs and averages 45 or 50 so ? That would be handy. Isn't it ?


Certainly if he played 40 Tests he won't be in contention for being an ATG.


Yes Haris has had poor fitness, might be from birth just like Shoaib, Kaneria etc but He is hyped because when he Averaged 52 playing mostly at number 4 in Fc Cricket in a similar sample set or comparable sample set No FC batsman who batted in Top 4 even Averaged 45 and the highest Averaging batsman with comparable rate of Century making was Naeemuddin opener who averaged 41 at that time.


Whatever hype there is around is also justified because Haris did impress in International Cricket aswell. Mostly whenever he faultered with the bat fitness was the issue. Temperature wise, reading match situation and strike rotation was far better than other Int team mates. Only weakness was Short ball and running out of gas after 30's and 40's hence getting out making wrong choices due to fitness deficiencies.


If He gets grip over his fitness issues than He has every probability in his favour to succeed in Int Cricket.
 

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Should be playing in the One Day Cup if he's fit enough instead of playing against some random Malaysian XI.
 
Great player and I wish him all the best.

Can chip in with 4-5 overs too which makes his possible inclusion even better.
 
Select him asap.
dont waste time. enough match practice.
Need him badly for CT. Best player of fast bowling in Pakistan.

Players like Umar Amin, Umar Akmal, Kamran etc might need to score in domestics for selection but proven performers like Harry should be selected when they are fit.
 
Enough of mediocrity.

Just select this guy now . He is world class. Solid performance today once again. Key is that his strike rate never went below 80 from the time he scored the first run.
 
Madplayer said:
Enough of mediocrity.

Just select this guy now . He is world class. Solid performance today once again. Key is that his strike rate never went below 80 from the time he scored the first run.
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Wrong info. He scored ith the strike rate of less than 80 before he got to 50 and picked up his strike rate. I watched his innings, if someone else had scored that way, it would have bee labeled a selfish innings, but since it's golden boy Harris everyone is so excited he scored some runs.

World Class batsman in your opinion?! yeah right, the guy who failed in 3 out of 5 innings in the under 23 emerging cup last month, just scored 2 extremely tuk tuk fifties to show that he's not ready fo the team.

He needs to play a full season of domestic to make a comeback.
 
Citizen4 said:
Wrong info. He scored ith the strike rate of less than 80 before he got to 50 and picked up his strike rate. I watched his innings, if someone else had scored that way, it would have bee labeled a selfish innings, but since it's golden boy Harris everyone is so excited he scored some runs.

World Class batsman in your opinion?! yeah right, the guy who failed in 3 out of 5 innings in the under 23 emerging cup last month, just scored 2 extremely tuk tuk fifties to show that he's not ready fo the team.

He needs to play a full season of domestic to make a comeback.
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Relax that emerging tournament was a low scoring one in general.

There are no doubts over Haris Sohail's batting credentials.
 
Citizen4 said:
Wrong info. He scored ith the strike rate of less than 80 before he got to 50 and picked up his strike rate. I watched his innings, if someone else had scored that way, it would have bee labeled a selfish innings, but since it's golden boy Harris everyone is so excited he scored some runs.

World Class batsman in your opinion?! yeah right, the guy who failed in 3 out of 5 innings in the under 23 emerging cup last month, just scored 2 extremely tuk tuk fifties to show that he's not ready fo the team.

He needs to play a full season of domestic to make a comeback.
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Not really. What was his strike rate when he scored 50?

I believe his strike rate was close to 80 throughout the innings and generally in the 80-85 range.
 
Hamza_ said:
Relax that emerging tournament was a low scoring one in general.

There are no doubts over Haris Sohail's batting credentials.
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eah no doubts, he gets a free pass because he is a PP darling.

Now he's playing selfishly, only dots and singles to get his maiden 100, instead of hitting some shots for the team in the last 10 overs. :)) If it was someone else everyone would have roasted him to death
 
Madplayer said:
Not really. What was his strike rate when he scored 50?

I believe his strike rate was close to 80 throughout the innings and generally in the 80-85 range.
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lol it was in the 70s for the majority of the time before his 50 :)) no point replying to the blind and kneejerk reaction I guess you will never agree
 
Citizen4 said:
eah no doubts, he gets a free pass because he is a PP darling.

Now he's playing selfishly, only dots and singles to get his maiden 100, instead of hitting some shots for the team in the last 10 overs. :)) If it was someone else everyone would have roasted him to death
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Yes because no one in the world slows down in 90s isnt it? And he hasnt slowed down to a cancerous level like ahmad shehzad, hafeez or fawad alam does usually.
 
a selfish 100 today, his maiden 100 in List A.
it was clear that he is playing for himself when he got to 90, only dots and singles while playing in the last 10 overs :)) Fawad Alam played better than him
 
Shouldn't be selected yet. Needs a season to prove fitness
 
He isn't that fluent right now but will get more fluent as he plays more cricket.

Also needs to direct short ball issues.
 
Madplayer said:
Yes because no one in the world slows down in 90s isnt it? And he hasnt slowed down to a cancerous level like ahmad shehzad, hafeez or fawad alam does usually.
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Fawad didnt play a single dot in the last 48 balls of his last century innings.
 
Hamza_ said:
He isn't that fluent right now but will get more fluent as heyjos plays more cricket.

Also needs to direct short ball issues.
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The short ball issue is related to his stance. He crouched too low and his head way outside off-stump. He is likely to miss line of the ahortball and can be picked up at fine leg or short leg. All of this is theorterical of course. When (if) he plays international cricket we will see if this is really an issue that's exploited or not.
 
Madplayer said:
Enough of mediocrity.

Just select this guy now . He is world class. Solid performance today once again. Key is that his strike rate never went below 80 from the time he scored the first run.
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Bhai calm down. World class? Not yet.
 
we already made blunders by introducing him very late in the national side while he was making solid performances in domestics.

do you want to continue with mediocrity and let him rot in domestics? I dont think it will be good. Select him now. Its not that we have Tendulakrs and Lars in our batting line up currently.
 
Also a bat like Haris will give confidence to Babar too.
Both good players of fast bowling (Haris even better) and can play in top order.
 
Very good player, definitely should make a comeback in ODIs and should also be selected for Tests.
 
Unless Asif Zakir Score's a big hundred today I could see him getting dropped without getting a game for either Amin or Haris.

Ideally both should be in.

Amin for Shezad or Kami.

Haris for Asif Zakir.
 
I live in England so can't watch. how did he play?
 
in_cutter said:
Bhai calm down. World class? Not yet.
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Bro, I dont have a habit of over hyping players if you have seen my posts here. But i see this guy serving Pakistan well. Much much better than the TTFs in the team and in line with modern day cricket.

AND if selected for tests, He will be the backbone of Pakistani team especially overseas.

The only problem I see with him is his fitness in terms of stamina.
 
New Yorker said:
Fawad didnt play a single dot in the last 48 balls of his last century innings.
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And how many dots did haris play in his last 50 balls?

And are you saying fawad is better than haris in LO cricket?
 
As long as he is fit enough he should be selected. We need a left hander in the middle order. Stacking our batting line up with right handers makes our batting line up predictable and a bowler doesn't need to change too much as he is bowling to a right hander consistently.

Bowling to a left hand/ right hand combination will disrupt tthe bowlers a bit.
 
Get rid of Kami and put Hafeez as opener.

Haris can slot in at no.4.

This has to happen. He is too good to be not in the team.
 
Haris is a type of player we had too many. He can't strike over 100 on regular basis. Babar Azam, haris sohail, shoaib malik, sarfraz. no one is a real accelerator.
 
Also while he makes a comeback, I think he shouldn't be used for bowling as that could have an effect on his injury.
 
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Madplayer said:
And how many dots did haris play in his last 50 balls?

And are you saying fawad is better than haris in LO cricket?
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About 12-13 if I count correctly. Huge difference. I'm not claiming Fawad is a better ODI player. I was injecting some skepticism into the claim that he cannot keep the scoreboard ticking. His last innings suggests that to the contrary, once wickets stop falling around him and he decided to switch gears, it may be almost impossible to keep him from taking singles. Again, in ten overs not a single dot ball. He went at SR 150+ for his last 60 balls.
 
khurram39 said:
Haris is a type of player we had too many. He can't strike over 100 on regular basis. Babar Azam, haris sohail, shoaib malik, sarfraz. no one is a real accelerator.
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What do you mean by over 100 on a regular basis? Not even ABDV manages more than 100 *on average* in ODIs? Warner is 96.
 
Look I want Haris and Fawad both in Pakistan test squad. No one deserves it more than Fawad Alam.
 
New Yorker said:
About 12-13 if I count correctly. Huge difference. I'm not claiming Fawad is a better ODI player. I was injecting some skepticism into the claim that he cannot keep the scoreboard ticking. His last innings suggests that to the contrary, once wickets stop falling around him and he decided to switch gears, it may be almost impossible to keep him from taking singles. Again, in ten overs not a single dot ball. He went at SR 150+ for his last 60 balls.
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Okay 10-12 dots is a huge difference i agree. But you have to see that one was setting a target and other was chasing a target when reqd. rate was increasing. Taking singles is absolutely crucial and I have no doubt that fawad is the better strike rotator. but singles alone dont win matches when chasing stiff targets. Fawad has massive limitations when trying to slog fast bowlers and his limitations have been time and again exposed in the international circuit. He has played more than 50 matches and we have seen enough of it. He needs hitters around him so that he could play the way he does. But then again, you already have a 22 year old babar azam playing the same role for you. Haris looks more compact than fawad and has a better hitting technique and i would back him hit a boundary when required. I cannot say the same for fawad.

Fawad should be in the test side. He is hard to get out and he can be useful in tests. In LOIs , he is a no no.
 
New Yorker said:
What do you mean by over 100 on a regular basis? Not even ABDV manages more than 100 *on average* in ODIs? Warner is 96.
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When they gets going they can strike over 200. Name anyone from Pakistan who can scored 40,50, or 60 ball hundred. You can find easily in others.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
He is effortless 85+ SR batter like Babar.
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Totally agreed. Is Pakistan looking to score near 300 or 300 on regular basis then this will be really good. I am just trying to say we don't have big hitters in the team. Who came on the crease and score 25,30 ball 50 or 50,60 ball 100. So we need to find out those players.
 
khurram39 said:
Haris is a type of player we had too many. He can't strike over 100 on regular basis. Babar Azam, haris sohail, shoaib malik, sarfraz. no one is a real accelerator.
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if less dot balls than hafeez, shehzad and kamran can help...job done..
 
Hasan123 said:
As long as he is fit enough he should be selected. We need a left hander in the middle order. Stacking our batting line up with right handers makes our batting line up predictable and a bowler doesn't need to change too much as he is bowling to a right hander consistently.

Bowling to a left hand/ right hand combination will disrupt tthe bowlers a bit.
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pak is not very wise to think this way... so they dont have to bother..
 
New Yorker said:
What do you mean by over 100 on a regular basis? Not even ABDV manages more than 100 *on average* in ODIs? Warner is 96.
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they are delusional... they want batsmen whose SR is 100+ from 1-11, thanks for mentioning Warner and abdv, i would like to add smith/kohli/kane to the list ... 80-90 for a middle order with an avg of 40-50 then it is very good... and SR OF 85+ and avg close to 50 or 48+ should be excellent... having two batsmen of this kind is nearly enough to solve batting issues..
 
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When is our squad announced?
Desperately want to see Yamin and haris in the squad. And sohail for Junaid. Shezzy n zakir (sorry sir, not ur fault at all) out
 
Abdullah said:
When is our squad announced?
Desperately want to see Yamin and haris in the squad. And sohail for Junaid. Shezzy n zakir (sorry sir, not ur fault at all) out
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usually for ICC tourneys there used to be deadlines for announcing squads.. idk when is the deadline..
 
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