Can Imran Farhat prove to be a good batting coach for Pakistan?

[Savak]

Obviously the natural reaction to his appointment was that how can such a mediocre player be appointed the batting coach of the Pakistani national team when there are so many legendary batsmen available in Pakistan i.e. Mohd Yousaf, Younis Khan, Inzamam e.t.c. but another ex player made an interesting defense of Imran Farhat's appointment stating the following points

- The guy has scored 20,000 first class runs and has completed all the necessary coaching certificates

- He has worked at the NCA and with the U19 team and Shaheen's team

- While he will not go down as a legendary cricketer, he did play international cricket for Pakistan and has played some good knocks in England, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, UAE e.t.c. and he can certainly pass on his knowledge, experience to the present players

- Legendary players do not necessarily make the best coaches, you will find England, Australia and even India's batting coaches to be their domestic veterans with coaching certificates, experience who didn't excel in international cricket

What do majority of the posters think about this?

 

[Hyder]

Dont know much about his credentials. But coaching and playing are two very different things. Many greats of the game are not great coaches because they just had natural talent with which they performed as player but they cant transfer that talent to youngsters. So a qualified coach who knows the basics and have studied about that particular aspect of the game ll always help polish others skill better

 

[ElRaja]

if only he could imbue the batters with his luck, they would all average a good 5 to 10 runs more, if you did a wagon wheel of his career a good chunk would be over or through the slips, lol.

 

[sweep_shot]

He himself wasn't a very good batter. Had technical issues. What can he teach?

I think Younis Khan should be the batting coach.

 

[UP]

Indian team has had random domestic guys as their batting coaches so why can’t Pak?

Bob Woolmer played very little intl cricket so its not necessary to have big intl experience. Coaching is more about man managing at this level. Good coaches are needed at club/school level. That’s where they matter the most.

 

[shaz619]

if only he could imbue the batters with his luck, they would all average a good 5 to 10 runs more, if you did a wagon wheel of his career a good chunk would be over or through the slips, lol.

They should hire him as a lucky mascot

 

[shaz619]

Indian team has had random domestic guys as their batting coaches so why can’t Pak?

Bob Woolmer played very little intl cricket so its not necessary to have big intl experience. Coaching is more about man managing at this level. Good coaches are needed at club/school level. That’s where they matter the most.

Bob Woolmer was arguably the greatest coach of all time, I wouldn’t say his name so lightly, he was a true student of the game & had a decorated FC coaching career when the competition was very stiff as well. Even when Bob Woolmer was playing cricket professionally, he had various coaching gigs and ran his own school in his 20’s. He studied not just the technical & physical aspects but was heavily influenced by sports science and psychology. His entire life was dedicated to perfecting coaching & the man literally died doing just that.

No disrespect to Mr. Farhat but he’s best known for getting picked due to his uncles or aunties links with the PCB and scoring a lucky hundred all through the third slip cordon. Doing a bit of primary school PE assistant training with some bacheh in the academy proves nothing and the OP is a supremely misguided bloke.

 

[Hitman]

On another note, I still remember the anger and hatred posters had for him on PP during his playing days. Isn't it true that his father-in-law made sure he was somehow selected in the team without merit?​

 

[Kianig89]

Unbelievable the batters were still making the same mistakes, give Farhat some more time

 

[BouncerGuy]

Imran farhat as batting coach? LOL

PCB is appointing people for fun.. They look non-serious.

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

why not bring in Hafeez as batting coach.

 

[Major]

Oh wow. We pakistani fans have come along way since the farhat saga.

Farhat was the most hated cricketer around here. He was a very good domestic bully, but in international cricket he was garbage. Everyone knew he would edge one to the slip and Pakistans batting collpase will start with this opener.

The annoying part was that no matter how bad he was, his father in law was the chief selector and would select him for every series. Ironically, his brother was a keeper, would never get selected even though for years we needed someone in place of kamran.

Anyways, coaching and playing is different. I have no issues with him coming in as a coach.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

@Savak you really come up with the weirdest and randomest of choices.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Better to hire someone with coaching credentials and nondesi mindset. Need an articulate disciplinarian who can teach batters how to properly defend while broadening their range of shots. Whoever fits the bill should get the job. I would love Ian Bell to take the reins of batting coach. He was a machine who knew how to perfect all the orthodox shots and defense. English coaching culture is pretty good, he might have witnessed the modern culture of LOIs and would definitely be able to teach the mechanics of the newer fancy shots (those he couldn't himself play due to his traditional style), he can definitely analyse the newer shots and help teach our batters. Peter Fulton or Chris Rogers would make good batting coaches as well. Wouldn't mind someone like Thilana Kandamby as head/assistant coach either.

 

[Kianig89]

Pitched on the up , tries to drive it and is caught in the slips , Vintage Farhat

He had a career courtesy the selector who was his father in law Mr Ilyas

 

[Rana]

Farhat and Nasir Jameshed

Two naturally aggressive players who for some weird reason became tuk tuk batters.

Naturally aggressive players should never change their method.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Associating playing prowess with coaching prowess is one of the reasons for our downfall.

If Imran has done the time and got the certificates as a coach then he should be given a blank slate different from his cricket career.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

On another note, I still remember the anger and hatred posters had for him on PP during his playing days. Isn't it true that his father-in-law made sure he was somehow selected in the team without merit?​

Yes his father-in-law Muhammad Ilyas used to be the chief-selector and selected him multiple times during his stints.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Farhat and Nasir Jameshed

Two naturally aggressive players who for some weird reason became tuk tuk batters.

Naturally aggressive players should never change their method.

Being naturally aggressive doesn't matter if you don't have the skill-level. And neither of these batters had the skill level. They had small purple patches or series where they scored runs but never had the ability to sustain it. Both had very glaring technical weaknesses too that were regularly exposed, and Jamshed in particular was also a low IQ individual.

 

[mon858]

For red ball no issues. Lots of domestic experience and with coaching training can help.

For white ball, no. I think we need a foreign batting coach for white ball to elevate our game for flat pitches and modern games and against top sides.