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South Africa thrashed india by 76 runs in super -8 match at the narendra Modi Stadium.

This is India's first defeat in an ICC tournament since the 2023 World Cup final.

Even if we win the next two games vs Zimbabwe and West Indies, it still won’t guarantee us a place in the semifinals.

Didn’t expect this kind of defeat. To be honest qualifying for the semifinals from here will be nothing short of a miracle

Can india recover from this Epic thrashing and win the tournament?

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
South Africa thrashed india by 76 runs in super -8 match at the narendra Modi Stadium.

This is India's first defeat in an ICC tournament since the 2023 World Cup final.

Even if we win the next two games vs Zimbabwe and West Indies, it still won’t guarantee us a place in the semifinals.

Didn’t expect this kind of defeat. To be honest qualifying for the semifinals from here will be nothing short of a miracle

Can india recover from this Epic thrashing and win the tournament?

:kp
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This thrashing will be a big jolt for India, but yes, they still can.

Every game is a must-win game for India now. Their destiny is in their own hands. Lose another game and you are out

If India beat both West Indies and Zimbabwe, they will be through.

I honestly cannot see South Africa losing to either team. I expect RSA to go undefeated to the semis. Once you are in the KOs then it becomes a lottery. Every team has an equal chance of winning. It essentially comes down to how well you execute your plans on the day / how well you cope with the pressure.
 
india can recover, they have depth in bowling and home advantage, and apart from pak, WI and Zim are the easiest teams india could have hoped for. however the long term trends are more worrying, from t20i to odi to test, bumrah carries this teams bowling and hes got at most 2 or 3 years at the top left. also none of the youngsters posses kohlis killer instinct, forcing him out is hurting india when backs are against the wall, he has a very good counter attacker. i dont understand what bcci see in gambhir, hes ruining the test team, and with the resources at hand apart from the pak game, india has underperformed for the talent at their disposal.
 
AZulfi said:
This thrashing will be a big jolt for India, but yes, they still can.

Every game is a must-win game for India now. Their destiny is in their own hands. Lose another game and you are out

If India beat both West Indies and Zimbabwe, they will be through.

I honestly cannot see South Africa losing to either team. I expect RSA to go undefeated to the semis. Once you are in the KOs then it becomes a lottery. Every team has an equal chance of winning. It essentially comes down to how well you execute your plans on the day / how well you cope with the pressure.
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South Africa can lose to any team we have seen in the past
 
No. Players don't trust Gambhir. Axar Patel is vice captain dropped just like that. Gill was vice captain before. Not even picked in squad. Jaiswal is miles above Abhishek or Sanju or Ishan. Not in the squad. Shreyas Iyer is the best batter against off spin or any spin the country. Not picked (for his problems with Gambhir). Gambhir wants to be the main man even after his playing days.
 
India still has the squad. But they need not bat till 8. Use Arshdeep, Bumrah, Kuldeep, Varun, Axar as 5 main bowlers with Hardik as back up. They can bowl out all the teams they come across for below par scores. Batting just hope someone comes through and wins it.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
It's really not.

Sharma

Tilak

Rinku

Varun

All very overrated.

Without Kohli and Rohit they are way behind 2024 team.
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Fun fact - India chased 150+ only three times in WT20 history and Kohli was Man of the match in all of them with 70+ score.

#GOAT

:don
 
No issue at all.

They just need to play Kuldeep in place of useless Rinku, and Axar back for Washington.

No way WI and Zim can handle that attack. Batting will come off. They could consider Samson for Abhishek.
 
mon858 said:
No issue at all.

They just need to play Kuldeep in place of useless Rinku, and Axar back for Washington.

No way WI and Zim can handle that attack. Batting will come off. They could consider Samson for Abhishek.
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Yes but expect mug Gambhir to discard Kuldeep...or not pick Arshdeep
 
Westindies are playing some good cricket .if any one of hetymer,Rutherford,hope fire with the bat it will be game over for india
 
Devadwal said:
South Africa thrashed india by 76 runs in super -8 match at the narendra Modi Stadium.

This is India's first defeat in an ICC tournament since the 2023 World Cup final.

Even if we win the next two games vs Zimbabwe and West Indies, it still won’t guarantee us a place in the semifinals.

Didn’t expect this kind of defeat. To be honest qualifying for the semifinals from here will be nothing short of a miracle

Can india recover from this Epic thrashing and win the tournament?

:kp
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I wish you a healthy recovery. Don't care much about ICT or BICC.
 
They will need South Africa to win out from here otherwise things are going to get real dicey with that NRR.
 
mon858 said:
No issue at all.

They just need to play Kuldeep in place of useless Rinku, and Axar back for Washington.

No way WI and Zim can handle that attack. Batting will come off. They could consider Samson for Abhishek.
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Once again, overconfidence will always lead to your downfall. The pitches provide an equal level playing feel. Continue underestimating at your own peril.
 
This loss was due to gg trying to be extra smart tactically …if the wicket has fallen early why is tilak getting ultra aggressive ? He is better in working few singles and then attacking that’s when he is really effective … and then not playing Axar over washy who just came back from injury and same with Abhishek who just recoveres from his illness …. He is repeating the mistake of what Ind did when they played gill in finals when he just recovered from dengue …not playing kul deep is laughable … Gg has just one job to do and that is to put 11 together that’s all the players are good enough but then somehow he feels … where is his value add exactly???
 
Wi have a much better chance to beat Ind .. they much better gel side now due to Sammy with Shai hope as a captain who is such a pleasing batter to watch great temperament solid technique and a wonderful player and then the power house they poses with solid pace and quality spin attack……
 
There are no easy games in T20. If Italy can take England to the edge, Pak has the capabilities, despite its passengers, to dent Eng big. Pak in SL should beat Eng come tue if they bowl smartly.
 
India were on a winning streak.... India won 16 win matches consecutively.....Its a good to loose a single game before K/o
 
Pak can beat both eng and sl …they just need to get their playing 11 right amidst all the Jamodis and influential
Selection… both mystery spinners has to play against eng game.
 
BlackstoneRock said:
GG has to stand out .. :) if he can send washy at3 in test then surely kuli can sit out
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I would assume everyone knows how non-Asian teams (except Australia) struggle against spin in Asian conditions. I would have really thought India would play 3 proper spinners and choke the runs and make SA play risky cricket.
The opposite happened. They played 4 pacers and one proper spinner. Weird decision, something we can expect from Pakistan.
 
rballer said:
I would assume everyone knows how non-Asian teams (except Australia) struggle against spin in Asian conditions. I would have really thought India would play 3 proper spinners and choke the runs and make SA play risky cricket.
The opposite happened. They played 4 pacers and one proper spinner. Weird decision, something we can expect from Pakistan.
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GG is the guy who is out there to prove everyone cause deep down he feels he hasn’t been credited for his efforts in both the World Cup finals and does such extra which has failed every single time but I m sure he will rectify it as I have seen he does correct his experiments .. somehow deep down he wants to be feel valued and that is his issue
 
India already has 1 foot out of the tournament. You cannot get away with by losing a match the way India did.

Indian batting is fragile and faulty.
 
It took one match and so many of my fellow country folks are losing it.

Come on either accept that team India is not what it was being boasted pre SA match or stick to the guns but with humility, saying yeah there are frailties and it's not a great team but still one of the favorites to win the Tourney.

I still think team India can win the tournament if they make it to semis, which they still have two chances against lower ranked teams in Windies and Zimbabwe.

Once in semis, team India will have enough of the mojo, confidence and home crowd behind them that they will win the whole thing on a canter.
 
bk19xsa said:
It took one match and so many of my fellow country folks are losing it.

Come on either accept that team India is not what it was being boasted pre SA match or stick to the guns but with humility, saying yeah there are frailties and it's not a great team but still one of the favorites to win the Tourney.

I still think team India can win the tournament if they make it to semis, which they still have two chances against lower ranked teams in Windies and Zimbabwe.

Once in semis, team India will have enough of the mojo, confidence and home crowd behind them that they will win the whole thing on a canter.
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Correct if GG selects correct playing 11
 
They definitely can as they are India, the greatest cricket team even greater than the Windies of the 70s/80s and the Aussies of 90/00s and indeed even better than Brazil in 1970. They will probably convince the groundsman to make the next pitch out of paper because on paper they are even greater than that.

The problem for them though is they are now relying on other results. If I was South Africa I would use the Windies game to experiment a lot with batting line ups and who to bowl / when and maybe try some innovative field placings.
 
prash88 said:
No. Players don't trust Gambhir. Axar Patel is vice captain dropped just like that. Gill was vice captain before. Not even picked in squad. Jaiswal is miles above Abhishek or Sanju or Ishan. Not in the squad. Shreyas Iyer is the best batter against off spin or any spin the country. Not picked (for his problems with Gambhir). Gambhir wants to be the main man even after his playing days.
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With Ghambir his squad is based on whose the most anti-pakistan rather than whose the india best on the field.
 
If Pakistan face us now, they will smash us.

The Indian players will surrender at the sight of another green jersey.
 
bk19xsa said:
It took one match and so many of my fellow country folks are losing it.

Come on either accept that team India is not what it was being boasted pre SA match or stick to the guns but with humility, saying yeah there are frailties and it's not a great team but still one of the favorites to win the Tourney.

I still think team India can win the tournament if they make it to semis, which they still have two chances against lower ranked teams in Windies and Zimbabwe.

Once in semis, team India will have enough of the mojo, confidence and home crowd behind them that they will win the whole thing on a canter.
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Team india has been playing associates + pakistan who they are going to beat anyway due to mental edge its just the way the group is designed for india to easily reach semis and final

South Africa is the only team it really played and they got told

They would have lost to Australia or newzealand and England too

This team doesn't have it in them

Rohit kohli shubman are different quality of players
 
There is a good chance S. Africa can choke in one of their 2 matches and eliminate india from the World Cup. :kp
 
emranabbas said:
Team india has been playing associates + pakistan who they are going to beat anyway due to mental edge its just the way the group is designed for india to easily reach semis and final

South Africa is the only team it really played and they got told

They would have lost to Australia or newzealand and England too

This team doesn't have it in them

Rohit kohli shubman are different quality of players
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true
india are only strong when opposition is Pak 😂
 
India is gonna win next match against Zimbabwe.... but match against WI.... let's keep finger crossed as WI also have power hitters
 
Nothing's better than Indian defeat. I thoroughly enjoyed the beating of india last night.

I watched full match first and then watched the highlights again as well. LOL.

Now I hope zimbabwe or west Indies beat them as well. It would be so so great.
 
Being a very good/good team does not mean a team can't lose matches. They very well can, and they do. Not even the all conquering Australian team from the 1999 WC till the 2007 WC avoided occasional defeats. We are not even remotely as good as them. The point is any team can lose matches.​
 
AndayWalaAllRounder said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2025625714406658529

Just came across this ad. I don’t know who the cringe actors are, as I’ve never seen the (Indian) guy in the ad in any Bollywood movie. People on X are saying it was published by Star Sports before the match and later deleted. However, I couldn’t find any verification, so maybe Indian friends can confirm whether these claims are true.

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag @Nikhil_cric @Devadwal @Cryin Out Loud @Bhaijaan
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Indian cricket fans have never really enjoyed star sports cringe buildup before big matches and series. They really need to introspect and re-think y content strategy because it makes Indian cricket and Indian cricket fans look bad.

:kp
 
Varun said:
If Pakistan face us now, they will smash us.

The Indian players will surrender at the sight of another green jersey.
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India could lose to Zimbabwe but not Pakistan. They just have to show up in blue jersey and our players ll gift away the match playing in panic under pressure.

Pakistan has no firepower in pace or middle late order hitting so they likely won't make it to semis. Top order and just spinners can only take you to an extent in a tournament.
 
AndayWalaAllRounder said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2025625714406658529

Just came across this ad. I don’t know who the cringe actors are, as I’ve never seen the (Indian) guy in the ad in any Bollywood movie. People on X are saying it was published by Star Sports before the match and later deleted. However, I couldn’t find any verification, so maybe Indian friends can confirm whether these claims are true.

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag @Nikhil_cric @Devadwal @Cryin Out Loud @Bhaijaan
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Arrogance? Is this true? @Mesozoic :yk :inti
 
AndayWalaAllRounder said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2025625714406658529

Just came across this ad. I don’t know who the cringe actors are, as I’ve never seen the (Indian) guy in the ad in any Bollywood movie. People on X are saying it was published by Star Sports before the match and later deleted. However, I couldn’t find any verification, so maybe Indian friends can confirm whether these claims are true.

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag @Nikhil_cric @Devadwal @Cryin Out Loud @Bhaijaan
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Yes this was an ad created by JioHotstar for the IND-SA. Cheap, unfunny and completely unnecessary.

They're not even trying to make creative ads anymore
 
AndayWalaAllRounder said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2025625714406658529

Just came across this ad. I don’t know who the cringe actors are, as I’ve never seen the (Indian) guy in the ad in any Bollywood movie. People on X are saying it was published by Star Sports before the match and later deleted. However, I couldn’t find any verification, so maybe Indian friends can confirm whether these claims are true.

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag @Nikhil_cric @Devadwal @Cryin Out Loud @Bhaijaan
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yes they have taken this down
 
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