Can international cricket and the ICC survive without Indian money?

[Rana]

Serious question. Tired of reading arrogant posts and posters constantly patronising this forum with posts such as 'ICC needs India and their money'. Also, all other boards need BCCI to churn in the money thats why they will support BCCI no matter what it does.

The question here is, are these mere hollow threats or if BCCI decides to part with the ICC at this very moment and decides to create a separate governing body that is Indian based and depends mainly on the revenue that is drawn up by the Indian cricket team, IPL and its sponsors. How likely is this from an economic perspective and what exactly would be left of the ICC even if they take a strong stance of ousting India from all of its schedules and tournaments until they decide to fall in line?

What exactly would be the approach of respected cricket boards such as the ACB and the ECB who have always been very well provided for by their own sources and means? Would they choose to part with the legal governing board of the ICC and join the rebel powerhouse of the BCCI for financial security? With this cycle continue and continue? Will the ICC just dissolve and BCCI will buy the rights to govern the entire Cricket council and ostracise Pakistan and its cricket in the Process?

I mean, can Indian fans or those that are constantly threatening clarify regarding this matter as they claim that this is basically the direction of cricket if ICC decides to stamp its authority and decide against the BCCI in certain matters such as the current MOU situation between them and Pakistan. Even a blind man can see that BCCI has cheated the PCB and PCB are well within their rights to demand a compensation. Im really intrigued to know how well they have forecasted the future and worked out the direction of Cricket, as BCCI become the 'neutral' overall governing body of cricket

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Nothing waits for anyone. After passing away big names the world still rotate.

 

[Peshwa]

No way ICC going to mess up with BCCI to please powerless body like PCB.... All your wishful thinking never going to come true...

 

[ipl_fan]

When 80% of cricketing revenue is generated from one country, the answer is obvious.

 

[AMSS]

The question is erroneously framed.

There's no country named ICC that depends on Indian market. And it's NEVER going to be the case where ICC collectively votes to throw BCCI out of the body.

Instead, the question ought to be whether any particularly board survive a boycott from the BCCI? The answer is yes. PCB has survived.

But is mere survival the goal?

 

[Rana]

When 80% of cricketing revenue is generated from one country, the answer is obvious.

Who benefits from that cricketing revenue? Pakistan doesn’t? They are still generating enough for its survival and sustainance

 

[Josh]

Yes it can survive but players will get very less match fees. Standard of sports will go down and associates won't get any help. It will definitely halt its development.

 

[Ned Flanders]

Who was generating money in the 90s?

 

[Rana]

When 80% of cricketing revenue is generated from one country, the answer is obvious.

If ECB starts its own premier league. IPL would lose half of its value if not more. Mark my words

 

[Ned Flanders]

If ECB starts its own premier league. IPL would lose half of its value if not more. Mark my words

They should.

And it should include all International players, none of the "only 4 overseas" bakwas.

 

[rhony]

Can India survive without ICC money? Yes.
Can the rest of the countries survive without ICC money? No.

Beyond that it's all speculation as IPL will be a dud without foreign players. Will they leave their boards? Who knows?

 

[Rana]

Yes it can survive but players will get very less match fees. Standard of sports will go down and associates won't get any help. It will definitely halt its development.

Explain to me how ECB continues to raise its player salaries and central contract value on a yearly basis?

 

[rhony]

If ECB starts its own premier league. IPL would lose half of its value if not more. Mark my words

They can do what they want but without Indian viewers, it can't compete with IPL. Majority of Indian viewers won't care if Indians are not part of it.

 

[barah_admi]

Look, the truth always lies in the facts. India threatened to pull out of the last CT or WC, I can't remember now. What happened? Answer nthing. The ICC and other boards carried on regardless and the BCCI had to beg for a handout.

The proof is in the pudding.

 

[Rana]

Can India survive without ICC money? Yes.
Can the rest of the countries survive without ICC money? No.

Beyond that it's all speculation as IPL will be a dud without foreign players. Will they leave their boards? Who knows?

Investors are only investing in India because the labour is cheap and the numbers are huge. Clearly the market for sponsorship and investment is far more in England with its huge Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Afghan community. Sri Lankan’s also. A premier league in England would definitely be an attraction.

 

[Rana]

They can do what they want but without Indian viewers, it can't compete with IPL. Majority of Indian viewers won't care if Indians are not part of it.

Lol and If Billionaire investors come dangling with £20M contracts for Kohli and Sharma, these guys are not going to take it for Patriotism to their nations?? And then boom. All of your Indian public will tune in and buy the event if the can on PPV...same as the ticket price of Watching it at the stadium...just why not??

 

[ipl_fan]

If ECB starts its own premier league. IPL would lose half of its value if not more. Mark my words

Who stops them from doing so ?? Let them start one and they will know if they can make IPL lose half of it's value. You grossly underestimate the Indian diaspora and their love for IPL and Cricket in general.

 

[ipl_fan]

Who was generating money in the 90s?

Regardless of who, before Indian money started flooding cricket, cricketers and their earnings were pale shadows.

 

[Ned Flanders]

Regardless of who, before Indian money started flooding cricket, cricketers and their earnings were pale shadows.

I think IPL should get rid of the 4 overseas players rule in an XI.

Should be as many as possible.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Yes.

Anyone who says the other way are "patriots", who take patriotism to the next level.

 

[ipl_fan]

I think IPL should get rid of the 4 overseas players rule in an XI.

Should be as many as possible.

No. 4 is the optimum. We get quality overseas players plus have the Indian touch to the league with 7 local players. This is the blockbuster formula which will never change.

 

[Peshwa]

If ECB starts its own premier league. IPL would lose half of its value if not more. Mark my words

Again a wishful thinking

 

[Ned Flanders]

No. 4 is the optimum. We get quality overseas players plus have the Indian touch to the league with 7 local players. This is the blockbuster formula which will never change.

But who wants to watch Sarfraz Khan, Ashok Dinda, Vinay Kumar etc.


It should be 6 overseas players.

 

[navin]

I think IPL should get rid of the 4 overseas players rule in an XI.

Should be as many as possible.

Why is that?

 

[Rana]

Who stops them from doing so ?? Let them start one and they will know if they can make IPL lose half of it's value. You grossly underestimate the Indian diaspora and their love for IPL and Cricket in general.

So the Indian diaspora wouldnt have any part of cricket if their own stars where playing in the English premier league? Kohli was supposed to have a short stint with Surrey and fans went crazy. Just imagine if he is fully signed to Leicestershire as their Platinum franchise player, surely Leicestershire would do so well financially due to huge numbers of Indian fans within that region. If Yorkshire sign a top draw Pakistani player such as Afridi, he will also get a huge following from the Pakistani fans in Bradford.

 

[Ned Flanders]

Why is that?

More International players, the better the quality.

 

[Rana]

Regardless of who, before Indian money started flooding cricket, cricketers and their earnings were pale shadows.

Pale Shadows? Azharuddin had a movie made for him and he still seems to be living it up. All cricketers from the 90s seem well off and relaxed

 

[navin]

More International players, the better the quality.

then it will hardly remain "Indian" premier league and I don't know what you think but people like to see Indian players along with a couple of foreign players. I can't say about you but for me it will loose any charm it has without Indian players.

 

[Ned Flanders]

then it will hardly remain "Indian" premier league and I don't know what you think but people like to see Indian players along with a couple of foreign players. I can't say about you but for me it will loose any charm it has without Indian players.

I would prefer a league with mainly International players, honestly.

IPL is good but it can be better, it can take over World Cricket.

 

[ipl_fan]

So the Indian diaspora wouldnt have any part of cricket if their own stars where playing in the English premier league? Kohli was supposed to have a short stint with Surrey and fans went crazy. Just imagine if he is fully signed to Leicestershire as their Platinum franchise player, surely Leicestershire would do so well financially due to huge numbers of Indian fans within that region. If Yorkshire sign a top draw Pakistani player such as Afridi, he will also get a huge following from the Pakistani fans in Bradford.

You think a league in England can pay Kohli more than what IPL is paying him to dessert IPL ??

There is wishful thinking and then there is your thinking. Indian players are exclusive to IPL and they will remain so as no league can come close to what BCCI pays them.

 

[JattMaula]

I would prefer a league with mainly International players, honestly.

IPL is good but it can be better, it can take over World Cricket.

I don't want my team(MI) to play Sharma, Bumrah, Pandya brothers and 7 internationals. They will do that given the chance but 4 foreign player limit has forced MI to invest in local talent and it is paying off.

 

[rhony]

Lol and If Billionaire investors come dangling with £20M contracts for Kohli and Sharma, these guys are not going to take it for Patriotism to their nations?? And then boom. All of your Indian public will tune in and buy the event if the can on PPV...same as the ticket price of Watching it at the stadium...just why not??

Who is willing to pay 20 million for Kohli to pay in UK? No one. Also brand value in Asia is always linked to patriotism. Look at actor Amir Khan and his troubles after he said something about security in India. There is just no way anybody can dangle that kind of money outside India. And there is no way Kohli or someone would risk their brand value by going against the public.

 

[Rana]

You think a league in England can pay Kohli more than what IPL is paying him to dessert IPL ??

There is wishful thinking and then there is your thinking. Indian players are exclusive to IPL and they will remain so as no league can come close to what BCCI pays them.

If ECB decides to invite the same investors that invest in the IPL to sponsor, most certainly they can. This is England and we are talking about sporting investment! It really depends on who wants to buy Kohli or Sharma, yes they will come at a hefty price...£10M+ but that’s a price they will have to pay if they want to make big money back. They will do it for sure if the market is there

 

[the_outsider]

BCCI pulling out of the ICC is not going to stop cricket, obviously. But it would do irreparable damage and take the game back 20 years.

Simply looking at the ICC Revenue Model is enough to realise that.

 

[Ned Flanders]

I don't want my team(MI) to play Sharma, Bumrah, Pandya brothers and 7 internationals. They will do that given the chance but 4 foreign player limit has forced MI to invest in local talent and it is paying off.

Yes, I agree.

But I'm talking about if IPL were to take over World Cricket.

And become like NFL, NBA, NHL etc.

 

[rhony]

Investors are only investing in India because the labour is cheap and the numbers are huge. Clearly the market for sponsorship and investment is far more in England with its huge Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Afghan community. Sri Lankan’s also. A premier league in England would definitely be an attraction.

Labor beig cheap and numbers being huge is the same with China. Look how they developed in the last 2 decades. Indian middle class is more than the population of many countries and they have disposable income. They define the tv rights. Unless u tap them, u can't get anywhere close to what BCCI makes through TV rights.

 

[Rana]

Who is willing to pay 20 million for Kohli to pay in UK? No one. Also brand value in Asia is always linked to patriotism. Look at actor Amir Khan and his troubles after he said something about security in India. There is just no way anybody can dangle that kind of money outside India. And there is no way Kohli or someone would risk their brand value by going against the public.

who is willing? Anyone who wants to build their franchise to be the best. You talk like Kohli will be murdered if he plays English Premier league during the English summer (May to August) which doesn’t clash with IPL dates, he will have to juggle his schedule with the Indian cricket board to commit to them to meaningless fixtures against Sri Lanka and West Indies, the odd series against New Zealand. But this would be a taste of BCCI’s own medicine.

 

[rhony]

If ECB decides to invite the same investors that invest in the IPL to sponsor, most certainly they can. This is England and we are talking about sporting investment! It really depends on who wants to buy Kohli or Sharma, yes they will come at a hefty price...£10M+ but that’s a price they will have to pay if they want to make big money back. They will do it for sure if the market is there

Invite investors? Why will investors pay so much when cricket is not even the most popular sport in England. How will they recuperate that money? BCCI will never dilute it's brand by letting their players play in other leagues. Even a B grade cricketer in India makes close to half a million dollars a year. Investors will invest where there are numbers and ROI

 

[rhony]

who is willing? Anyone who wants to build their franchise to be the best. You talk like Kohli will be murdered if he plays English Premier league during the English summer (May to August) which doesn’t clash with IPL dates, he will have to juggle his schedule with the Indian cricket board to commit to them to meaningless fixtures against Sri Lanka and West Indies, the odd series against New Zealand. But this would be a taste of BCCI’s own medicine.

He can't as BCCI will not allow him.

 

[Imran Hasan]

Technically Icc can survive without any specific team. But they will always be there to hold each other's hand.

 

[rhony]

Yes, I agree.

But I'm talking about if IPL were to take over World Cricket.

And become like NFL, NBA, NHL etc.

NBA, NFL have home grown talent and a pipeline from high school to college to pro. They don't have US teams comprising of all foreign players. IPL model is fine. I just think they need to have 5 foreign instead of 4 to make it interesting

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Who was generating money in the 90s?

And before 90s...

 

[Rana]

He can't as BCCI will not allow him.

BCCI can’t allow this then ECB will block all of its English players to do the same. £8M contract for Ben Stokes, that’s more than enough for you buddy and you don’t need anymore Indian money.

You don’t have Pakistani players, now you lose top class English players who traditionally have gone at the most expensive prices when it comes to overseas players.

 

[the_outsider]

BCCI can’t allow this then ECB will block all of its English players to do the same. £8M contract for Ben Stokes, that’s more than enough for you buddy and you don’t need anymore Indian money.

You don’t have Pakistani players, now you lose top class English players who traditionally have gone at the most expensive prices when it comes to overseas players.

All of what you are saying is hypothetical gibberish.

The only thing that can be said with certainty is that the last thing ICC wants is BCCI pulling out. One country alone accounts for over 40% of ICC's revenue. They can't afford to lose BCCI.

 

[Ned Flanders]

NBA, NFL have home grown talent and a pipeline from high school to college to pro. They don't have US teams comprising of all foreign players. IPL model is fine. I just think they need to have 5 foreign instead of 4 to make it interesting

Yeah it's a bit difficult to have something like NBA etc.

But I dream of a T20 tournament like IPL happening in England, that is sort of like the NBA, NHL .

National Cricket League or something.

International Cricket won't survive.

 

[Rana]

Invite investors? Why will investors pay so much when cricket is not even the most popular sport in England. How will they recuperate that money? BCCI will never dilute it's brand by letting their players play in other leagues. Even a B grade cricketer in India makes close to half a million dollars a year. Investors will invest where there are numbers and ROI

All the worlds leading Alcohol investors. Sky sports or BT sports can have their Bid off to buy the rights and that in itself would be a huge investment buy these companies. Then the sponsorship investments.

Don’t underestimate England and the ECB, they are not amateurs and this is exactly why they are yet to create their own franchise lead cricket tournament. They have observed for long enough how the market will work considering there are other premier leagues such as the BPL, PSL and CPL.

 

[Peshwa]

BCCI can’t allow this then ECB will block all of its English players to do the same. £8M contract for Ben Stokes, that’s more than enough for you buddy and you don’t need anymore Indian money.

You don’t have Pakistani players, now you lose top class English players who traditionally have gone at the most expensive prices when it comes to overseas players.

I am jus wondering why Australia haven't banned thr player from participating in ipl

 

[Rana]

I am jus wondering why Australia haven't banned thr player from participating in ipl

Because they don’t have to, it doesn’t clash with their BPL which is a success as it is but it’s not on a grand scale like IPL. They have not offered serious money to Indian players that would make them want to play in the BPL as it is.

When ECB does unleash its version of franchise cricket, it will do it on a scale to match the IPL if not at a bigger scale

 

[rhony]

BCCI can’t allow this then ECB will block all of its English players to do the same. £8M contract for Ben Stokes, that’s more than enough for you buddy and you don’t need anymore Indian money.

You don’t have Pakistani players, now you lose top class English players who traditionally have gone at the most expensive prices when it comes to overseas players.

Strauss actually encouraged the ENglish players to play IPL. Kohli was vocal recently against the T10 and that will be BCCI's stand as well. No Indian international will play other leagues. WHo's gonna pay 8m to Stokes? And for how long? It's a dying game in Eng and there not as many eye balls

 

[Peshwa]

Because they don’t have to, it doesn’t clash with their BPL which is a success as it is but it’s not on a grand scale like IPL. They have not offered serious money to Indian players that would make them want to play in the BPL as it is.

When ECB does unleash its version of franchise cricket, it will do it on a scale to match the IPL if not at a bigger scale

Seems you are too hopeful with ECB

 

[rhony]

Because they don’t have to, it doesn’t clash with their BPL which is a success as it is but it’s not on a grand scale like IPL. They have not offered serious money to Indian players that would make them want to play in the BPL as it is.

When ECB does unleash its version of franchise cricket, it will do it on a scale to match the IPL if not at a bigger scale

Offer serious money? Who? If they offer the same serious money to Indian players? Who again? Australia gun players don't even play Big Bash. Aussies can't pay that "serious" money to thir own players. There is no league that can make as much money as India. The money players make in other leagues will pale in comparison to IPL for the same reason

 

[JattMaula]

Yes, I agree.

But I'm talking about if IPL were to take over World Cricket.

And become like NFL, NBA, NHL etc.

Well if it comes to that then we can try to expand ipl. Nice 16-20 team and 6/7 month window in cricket season. October to march/April will do.

 

[Rana]

Strauss actually encouraged the ENglish players to play IPL. Kohli was vocal recently against the T10 and that will be BCCI's stand as well. No Indian international will play other leagues. WHo's gonna pay 8m to Stokes? And for how long? It's a dying game in Eng and there not as many eye balls

Ofc he would encourage them as he may be getting some pocket money on the side as well for promoting IPL in England. But the change of stance will come when England decide to make their own premier league to save Cricket in England as you say it’s a dying sport...which is a lie that Indians try to spread! I know the English domestic system and club level system. Cricket is expanding on a daily basis and ECB invests thoroughly in expansion and making the game attractive to the younger generation. So it’s not a dying sport as you claim.

 

[Balthazar]

Don't think ICC gives two hoots about the bilateral relationship between India and Pakistan. So they are less likely to side with Pakistan in the ongoing case and risk losing its most potential member.

 

[tigerman]

If ECB starts its own premier league. IPL would lose half of its value if not more. Mark my words

Why they did not start something if according to your insight would get them so much revenue ?

If even afghanistan can start their own league (nothing against them, I meant being a new country to cricket scene and a small country) then why is ECB is unable to ? Instead Why are they starting a circus called 100 instead?


Coming to your original question, no country is bigger than the game. So ICC will survive without Indian money but without amount of revenue that BCCI generates it will be very hard.

For every argument you may a counter argument saying BCCI not needed but there is enough Data which supports the argument that BCCI revenue needed which your counter argument does not have any.

 

[Ned Flanders]

Well if it comes to that then we can try to expand ipl. Nice 16-20 team and 6/7 month window in cricket season. October to march/April will do.

That would be hella amazing.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol and If Billionaire investors come dangling with £20M contracts for Kohli and Sharma, these guys are not going to take it for Patriotism to their nations?? And then boom. All of your Indian public will tune in and buy the event if the can on PPV...same as the ticket price of Watching it at the stadium...just why not??

So where is this billionaire? Why has he not invested in english cricket yet?

And what makes you think that such a billionaire wont be from India? Most IPL teams are owned by billionaires.

Bcci's ipl plus tv rights are more valuable than the rights of ICC plus ECB plus CA. Thst tells you which public pays.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Investors are only investing in India because the labour is cheap and the numbers are huge. Clearly the market for sponsorship and investment is far more in England with its huge Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Afghan community. Sri Lankan’s also. A premier league in England would definitely be an attraction.

What has cheap labour got to do here?
Indian GDP is 3rd in terms of PPP and 5th or 6th in terms of nominal. Most of it focussed on cricket.

Do you understand how much that is?

 

[RainMan_]

As [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] once rightly said, BCCI needs the handouts from ICC in order to survive.

Yes, BCCI earns a decent amount of money but most of it is used to pay wages to its employees and players. If today ICC kicks India out, how will BCCI pay to its employees?

Furthermore, INDIA earns money by playing with other countries. If icc bans other national teams from playing against India as well as bans international players from participating in IPL then it will be the final nail in the coffin of Indian cricket.

Hardly any international player WILL dare to play in that league by risking their international career. Yes, few fringe players from WI might prefer IPL over international cricket but most of the other players will prefer international cricket over IPL anyday.

Besides this, the quality of IPL will also go down the drain without the high quality international player. At the end of the day its quite easily understandable that BCCI will get extinct without ICC.

 

[Itachi]

Its hard to give an answer to a question when the person who asked comes with a biased and victimized mentality and not open enough to even listen to a opposing view.

An advice to op. We are arrogant, we are patronizing..... Bit you also are not different. You are following the same trait. Only the color is different.

Our is blue. Yours is green. That's as far as it goes.

 

[AMSS]

As [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] once rightly said, BCCI needs the handouts from ICC in order to survive.

Yes, BCCI earns a decent amount of money but most of it is used to pay wages to its employees and players. If today ICC kicks India out, how will BCCI pay to its employees?

Furthermore, INDIA earns money by playing with other countries. If icc bans other national teams from playing against India as well as bans international players from participating in IPL then it will be the final nail in the coffin of Indian cricket.

Hardly any international player WILL dare to play in that league by risking their international career. Yes, few fringe players from WI might prefer IPL over international cricket but most of the other players will prefer international cricket over IPL anyday.

Besides this, the quality of IPL will also go down the drain without the high quality international player. At the end of the day its quite easily understandable that BCCI will get extinct without ICC.

Agreed.

Imagine the quality of IPL if Tamim da and the Satkhira express walked out of it?

 

[cricketAXEpert]

yes, ICC can survive. But no such thing is ever going happen. South Africa was banned by ICC but that much bigger and serious issue. ICC does not want to be involved in India-Pakistan Spat and will continue to look the other way.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Agreed.

Imagine the quality of IPL if Tamim da and the Satkhira express walked out of it?

Imagine the quality of IPL if international cricket is dead? How will you create international level superstars in IPL?

 

[Hasan123]

The game of cricket will survive but cricket boards will suffer financially.

 

[cricketindiafan]

This has been discussed to death on this forum since 2010 when I joined. Each such thread has lot of wishful thinking and fantasies posted as opinion and a few days later, same set of posters crib about BCCICC on some other thread.

If it was as easy, it would have happened by now. For all the powers of ECB, after resisting IPL for 7-8 years, they had to succumb and allow English players to miss county season for IPL. More will join each year as participation and availability gets more clear.

It has taken a weakened BCCI with a clueless bunch running the show for two years now for the powers of BCCI to be undermined slightly (case vs Pakistan etc). But this phase will pass as well.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

BCCI has all the money and superpowers. I thought for once they will use it for good purpose and force ACC to change the schedule in Asia Cup but that didn't happen.

 

[Mp812]

Of course icc can survive....but that's all it can do "survive"

 

[cricketindiafan]

BCCI has all the money and superpowers. I thought for once they will use it for good purpose and force ACC to change the schedule in Asia Cup but that didn't happen.

And barring Indian captain, other captains had a probelm with the schedule. Not sure why that happened

 

[HitWicket]

If it was as easy, it would have happened by now. For all the powers of ECB, after resisting IPL for 7-8 years, they had to succumb and allow English players to miss county season for IPL. More will join each year as participation and availability gets more clear.

When have the ECB ever stopped a player/resisted a player playing in the IPL because they'll miss some county matches?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

And barring Indian captain, other captains had a probelm with the schedule. Not sure why that happened

Are yoy trying to say that BCCI used its power?

 

[Bilal7]

No. However, Indian cricket cannot survive without international cricket either.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No. However, Indian cricket cannot survive without international cricket either.

That's a bitter truth. If there is no international cricket then there will be no international stars too. And nobody will watch these pyjama leagues without those stars. If fans are expecting guys like Dinda, Kaul, Rayudus and Shardul to bring crowds into the stadium then they are delusional.

 

[Dingolfy]

Ofc he would encourage them as he may be getting some pocket money on the side as well for promoting IPL in England. But the change of stance will come when England decide to make their own premier league to save Cricket in England as you say it’s a dying sport...which is a lie that Indians try to spread! I know the English domestic system and club level system. Cricket is expanding on a daily basis and ECB invests thoroughly in expansion and making the game attractive to the younger generation. So it’s not a dying sport as you claim.

Cricket in England is an upper middle class sport and they are struggling financially to sustain it.And you are saying they would create premier league that would get folks like Kohli from IPL. LOL. First of all, even Sachin Tendulkar don't have the guts to go against BCCI leat alone somebody like Kohli. Secondly, there ain't no one foolish enough in England to throw that much money in game which no one in England watches.All the diaspora you see in India's matches are there to see INDIAN players, not because they love cricket.

 

[cricketjoshila]

And barring Indian captain, other captains had a probelm with the schedule. Not sure why that happened

All cried that India is not travelling to Abu Dhabi. But some of our neighbours may have missed the memo.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

BCCI is now severely handicapped due to supreme court and dont hv same power as it had during era. But they still and continue to remain the biggest money generator for ICC.

Also lol at T20 league in UK will surpass IPL. No one in Eng cares about cricket...its not even 3rd/4th popular sport. Yes purists like test cricket somewhat but no one cares about T20s. In my office most colleagues laugh at cricket saying how can a game goes on for 5 days? There is a reason cricket is out of terrestrial tv long time. Football, Tennis, Rugby, Racing all are much more popular than cricket.Yes bunch of Asians may turn up for t20 leagues but that would compete with IPL? lol.

I have watched cricket matches both in UK and Ind. The craze is on a different level back home. I was in wankhede stadium before wt20 in 2016 for a warm up game between Ind and SA. I turned up 30 mins before the game thinking its just a warm up, will buy tickets from counter and enjoy the game like we do here in UK. Boy, the road was jampacked with policemen all around and huge crowd eagerly awaiting for tickets. Almost a stampede like situation.

No country can compete with cricket craze in India.

 

[the_outsider]

That's a bitter truth. If there is no international cricket then there will be no international stars too. And nobody will watch these pyjama leagues without those stars. If fans are expecting guys like Dinda, Kaul, Rayudus and Shardul to bring crowds into the stadium then they are delusional.

Expect for the fact that the IPL has become a platform where lesser known foreign players can become international stars. There are many examples of that. Recent ones like Jofra Archer (same happened in BBL, the only other big league). Other notable players who became bigger names after having a successful IPL are Shaun Marsh, Sunil Narine, David Warner, Kieron Pollard, David Hussey, etc.

In fact, the kind of popularity that ABD, Gayle and McCullum achieved also has a lot to do with the IPL.

The IPL is moving towards becoming a self-sustaining entity, as much as you hate it.

 

[Buffet]

Sure it can survive, but I doubt that it will thrive.

 

[Hitman]

No arrogance here. But why has the ICC catered so much to the BCCI over the years if that weren't the case?

 

[Hitman]

Coming back to the question, how did cricket before the 90's survive without the type of money that the BCCI generates now? Therein lies the answer to the question. Compare what cricket was back then to what cricket is now.

Yes, cricket will survive. But it will go back by 30 odd years.

 

[Hitman]

Coming back to the question, how did cricket before the 90's survive without the type of money that the BCCI generates now? Therein lies the answer to the question. Compare what cricket was back then to what cricket is now.

Yes, cricket will survive. But it will go back by 30 odd years.

Now of course Junaids will probably be of the opinion that cricket was 100 times better back till the 80's. Batsmen back then were 10 times better than those from the 90's onward, and bowlers used to regularly bowl over 100 MPH. It's up to the ICC if it wants cricket to go back by 30 odd years to make it better once again. Take it for what it's worth.