"Can you blame an entire nation?" Anger over Navjot Sidhu's Pulwama remark

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Navjot Singh Sidhu on Pulwama Terror Attack: Speaking to the media to condemn the "cowardly and dastardly" terror attack, Mr Sidhu also said, "It (the terror attack) is a cowardly and dastardly act and I condemn it firmly. Violence is always condemnable and those who did it must be punished."

Chandigarh: Cricketer-turned-politician Navjot Singh Sidhu today condemned the terror attack on soldiers in Jammu and Kashmir's Pulwama on Thursday, the worst in decades. But the Punjab minister, a Congress leader, landed in a huge controversy as he questioned, without naming Pakistan, "Can an entire nation be blamed for a handful of people?"

At least 40 soldiers of the Central Reserve Police Force or CRPF were killed in a terror attack by the Jaish-e-Mohammed or JeM when their convoy was heading from Jammu to Srinagar. The incident took place approximately 20 km from Srinagar, when a terrorist driving a car detonated more than 60 kilograms of explosives near a bus which was part of the CRPF convoy. The explosion was so massive that window panes of houses and buildings were damaged in

More than 2,500 CRPF were returning from leave to rejoin duty in Srinagar. They were travelling in the convoy of 78 vehicles when the terrorist struck at around 3:15 pm.

Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed claimed the terror attack shortly after the incident and also posted photos and a video of the terrorist, Adil Ahmad Dar, who had joined the terror outfit last year.

"It (the terror attack) is a cowardly and dastardly act and I condemn it firmly. Violence is always condemnable and those who did it must be punished," said Navjot Sidhu.

However, Mr Sidhu followed that up by saying, "For a handful of people, can you blame the entire nation and can you blame an individual?"

Mr Sidhu's comment today created a storm on social media, with dozens of people on Twitter demanding a ban on The Kapil Sharma Show, following Navjot Sidhu's remark. Mr Sidhu is a member and part of comedian Kapil Sharma's popular television show.

Last year, Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan's invite to Navjot Sidhu for his swearing-in ceremony became controversial. Despite strained ties between India and Pakistan and his senior colleagues advising him not to go, Navjot Sidhu went ahead citing his "personal friendship" with Imran Khan, a former cricketer.

Mr Sidhu faced sharp criticism for sharing a hug with Pakistan's army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa.

The Punjab Assembly today strongly condemned the Pulwama terror attack.


https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/nav...-follows-up-with-controversial-remark-1994264

 

[Pakistanian]

I thought the victims were civilians (Hindu pilgrims) but turns out they were military or police officers/armed combatants.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

NS Sindhu seems to be way too defensive about Pak...

 

[JaDed]

I think the thread title is also relevant to Indian posters on here too.

If you all dont like Pakistanis, dont talk to us.

It's a shame there aren't more people like Sidhu in India. The majority of Indians seem to be brainswashed into hating Pakistan.

I don't consider you Pakistani for one, you are a Brit to me, plus I have no idea what was your reply for?

 

[Pakistanian]

I don't consider you Pakistani for one, you are a Brit to me, plus I have no idea what was your reply for?

You have no authority to decide who isn't a Pakistani. You now live in America and in our social etiquette you should address people the way they would like. Respect peoples choice to identify as how they want, it's 2019.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I don't consider you Pakistani for one, you are a Brit to me, plus I have no idea what was your reply for?

My point was many Indians blame Pakistan including many on here but are happy discussing and talking to Pakistanis. Strange people.

 

[JaDed]

You have no authority to decide who isn't a Pakistani. You now live in America and in our social etiquette you should address people the way they would like. Respect peoples choice to identify as how they want, it's 2019.

I'm sorry what are you on about? Are you saying I should refer to someone living in Russia as American coz they want me to?

I feel sorry for you if that's what you think social etiquette is all about.

 

[JaDed]

My point was many Indians blame Pakistan including many on here but are happy discussing and talking to Pakistanis. Strange people.

Yes ,we learn from the best like you that talk about religion and how Indian Muslims don't know about religion but enjoying your interest rates in England MA.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes ,we learn from the best like you that talk about religion and how Indian Muslims don't know about religion but enjoying your interest rates in England MA.

Indians seem very upset and just like you are hating on all Pakistanis. You do know there is a simple solution to your problem, make a like a tree and ......

 

[JaDed]

Indians seem very upset and just like you are hating on all Pakistanis. You do know there is a simple solution to your problem, make a like a tree and ......

Mate ,I haven't said anything against Pakistanis, please show me the post that you seem to be referring to .

 

[Pakistanian]

I'm sorry what are you on about? Are you saying I should refer to someone living in Russia as American coz they want me to?

I feel sorry for you if that's what you think social etiquette is all about.

If somebody is an American citizen living in Russia or has parents/family from America then yes they are American and should be addressed as how they identify. You're acting like British-Pakistanis didn't come from Pakistan, if people wanna identify with their heritage then so be it.

 

[Third_Umpire]

This is not the time for words of reason, not that there ever is as far as India is concerned..

 

[troodon]

My point was many Indians blame Pakistan including many on here but are happy discussing and talking to Pakistanis. Strange people.

Nobody blames regular Pakistani citizens for these attacks. Indians blame Pak army and Jihadi groups that are hiding in Pak.

Of course, the rightwing BJP will blame all of Pakistan. But it is their political mantra.

Pakistan knows that many Jihadi groups operate from Pak soil. Yet the Pak Government cannot do anything about them. This is the grip with Pakistan for many countries.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Nobody blames regular Pakistani citizens for these attacks. Indians blame Pak army and Jihadi groups that are hiding in Pak.

Of course, the rightwing BJP will blame all of Pakistan. But it is their political mantra.

Pakistan knows that many Jihadi groups operate from Pak soil. Yet the Pak Government cannot do anything about them. This is the grip with Pakistan for many countries.

When India wants no relations with Pakistan, not even playing cricket, why should Pakistan spend its resources to make sure India is safe? How about all sides let Kashmiri's decide, have better relations and work together for peace? Just a thought.

 

[gazza619]

Totally agree with Sidhu

 

[troodon]

When India wants no relations with Pakistan, not even playing cricket, why should Pakistan spend its resources to make sure India is safe? How about all sides let Kashmiri's decide, have better relations and work together for peace? Just a thought.

I am sure Indians do not care how many Jihadi groups are operating from Pak unless it effects them. Do Indians complain about Jihadi groups in Somalia or Nigeria? We don't as we are not effected by them.

We do not complain about neighbors way of life unless they start throwing garbage in our yard. (Just a thought).

 

[PakLFC]

Pakistanis can look after themselves don't anyone worry about that. Our nukes and bombs are not made or purchased to show off in museums in case India and its people think that! Of course I would much prefer that they were never used however India needs to be reminded of them every now and again. Pak will not accept the Indian blame for what they are doing in IOK, never!!. It is the Muslim's of India their own people who will be suffering like no ones business. As India can not do anything to Pak without suffering the same it is their Muslims they take their anger out on.

 

[90MPH]

Sidhu a rare sane voice. He talks total sense.

Tons of respect for you sir when all you hear is the constant chest thumping for war.

 

[MenInG]

NEW DELHI: Punjab cabinet minister Navjot Singh Sidhu is being dropped from a popular TV show, a day after a controversy over his remarks on the Pulwama terror attack in which 40 CRPF jawans were killed, sources aware of the development told NDTV. The channel is yet to release an official statement on Mr. Sidhu's future on the show.
Mr Sidhu, a regular on The Kapil Sharma Show on Sony TV, is being replaced by actor Archana Puran Singh, sources said.

On Friday, while condemning the terror attack, Mr Sidhu, without naming Pakistan, had questioned, "Can an entire nation be blamed for a handful of people?"

In the worst terror attack on security forces in Jammu and Kashmir, a terrorist from Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed blew up a vehicle carrying 60 kg of explosives right next to a convoy of the Central Reserve Police Force or CRPF on Thursday. The explosion was so massive that window panes of houses and buildings were damaged in a nearly-10-km radius.

"It (the terror attack) is a cowardly and dastardly act and I condemn it firmly. Violence is always condemnable and those who did it must be punished," said Navjot Sidhu. However, he followed that up by saying, "For a handful of people, can you blame the entire nation and can you blame an individual?"

Mr Sidhu's comment had created a storm on social media, with dozens on Twitter demanding a ban on The Kapil Sharma Show.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/nav...il-sharma-show-by-archana-puran-singh-1994633

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Sidhu is dumb.

Will take a guy with semi decent skills to destroy his argument in 15 seconds.

Mr Sidhu... No one is saying entire Pakistan is responsible for these attacks.

No one even says Pak govt did it cos they are usually powerless in these matters.

The reaction is against Pakistani establishment as a whole entity which supports and helps these terrorists....thus making them responsible for this fiasco.

There is such thing as responsibility and the buck stops at Pakistan.

That is why there are calls to take action against it through policy measures and international pressure.

What sidhu is doing is taking a generic agreeable statement and using it in a situation out of context.

Laughable really.

 

[slipcatch]

Poor guy, sanity isn’t a virtue that Indian politician and ultra patriotic live by in regarding matters to Pakistan.

Why would Pakistan’s establishment support attack on this scale right around the time when they need investors to invest?

And didn’t Pakistani expected such hurdles being orchestrated right around the time when Pakistan was in the verge of making Progress? Especially without the help of IMF?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The lack of action taken against actual terrorists roaming scot free in Pakistan is a red flag for starters.

What happened to Hafeez Saeed the freedom fighter?

Cooperate with India if you don't have control over these terrorists.

Man it's soooo damn easy to corner these "but but but but" arguments.

You can wake up a sleeping man but you can't wake up someone pretending to sleep.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I can understand comments about Indian army atrocities in Kashmir but I can never understand the mental gymnastics ppl perform to defend actual international terrorists hiding in Pakistan.

 

[slipcatch]

I ask again, why would Pakistan’s establishment support an attack while they need investors to invest without the help of IMF?

India can’t make anyone arrest anyone in Pakistan.

Try to control occupy Kashmir, it has been 70 years.

Be sensible

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Haha hope this exchange (along with this comment) is left as it is by the mods so neutrals can read the posts and make up their minds.

I just cornered the above poster but he has no clue he is stuck.

My post literally answers the question yet its met by why wud Pakistan establishment do that?

Cooperate with India in nailing all these terrorists if you are so clean.

Sif is always sensible.

 

[slipcatch]

Lol.

Let me try again.

Why would Pakistan’s establishment support an attack of such scale right around the time when they need investors.

Mod aren’t going to delete anything. They are more tolerant to Indian guests even when they are promoting their radicalized extremists Hindu version than peaceful Pakistani, so relax with that.

No establishment arrest anyone just because their enemy country with ill intentions had asked them to, welcome to the real world of politics.

Glad made you laugh

 

[Josh]

Lol.

Let me try again.

Why would Pakistan’s establishment support an attack of such scale right around the time when they need investors.

Mod aren’t going to delete anything. They are more tolerant to Indian guests even when they are promoting their radicalized extremists Hindu version than peaceful Pakistani, so relax with that.

No establishment arrest anyone just because their enemy country with ill intentions had asked them to, welcome to the real world of politics.

Glad made you laugh

What benefit does Pakistan have from not questioning Masood Azhar. He is known terrorist. This theory of good terrorist and bad terrorist will backfire.

 

[rhony]

Lol.

Let me try again.

Why would Pakistan’s establishment support an attack of such scale right around the time when they need investors.

Mod aren’t going to delete anything. They are more tolerant to Indian guests even when they are promoting their radicalized extremists Hindu version than peaceful Pakistani, so relax with that.

No establishment arrest anyone just because their enemy country with ill intentions had asked them to, welcome to the real world of politics.

Glad made you laugh

Dude...if this was indeed a well laid out plan by India, you just fell into their lap. The wars in this gen are economic. Nuclear weapons act as good deterrence for conventional wat.

Why would Pakistan shield a radicalized terrorist right around the time when they need investors. I've been reading the rap sheet on this Azhar guy and he appears to be filth of the highest order with delusions. If GOP didn't have anything to do with this and if India is embarrassing Pak because Pak had association with him in the past, the task is simple. Just shoot the idiot and claim victory. Show the world that Pakistan doesn't tolerate terrorism. Simple really. Very simple.

 

[slipcatch]

What benefit does Pakistan have from not questioning Masood Azhar. He is known terrorist. This theory of good terrorist and bad terrorist will backfire.

There aren’t any good terrorists, that oxymoron nomenclature is only used by Indian.

Terrorists are terrorists but freedom fighter fighting against the oppression of well build army aren’t terrorist.

 

[slipcatch]

Dude...if this was indeed a well laid out plan by India, you just fell into their lap. The wars in this gen are economic. Nuclear weapons act as good deterrence for conventional wat.

Why would Pakistan shield a radicalized terrorist right around the time when they need investors. I've been reading the rap sheet on this Azhar guy and he appears to be filth of the highest order with delusions. If GOP didn't have anything to do with this and if India is embarrassing Pak because Pak had association with him in the past, the task is simple. Just shoot the idiot and claim victory. Show the world that Pakistan doesn't tolerate terrorism. Simple really. Very simple.

Hopefully Pakistan will.

But I ask again, why would Pakistan’s establishment support an attack on such scale right around when Pakistan is trying to bring most of the PSL games and investors from all over the world.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Been in PP for long so I know moderation here is very good.

No need to tell me about them.

Mine was a general remark to drive home a point.

——-

I see there is still no concrete response to my post.

I will leave it to ppl to make up their minds.

Good night folks.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Dude...if this was indeed a well laid out plan by India, you just fell into their lap. The wars in this gen are economic. Nuclear weapons act as good deterrence for conventional wat.

Why would Pakistan shield a radicalized terrorist right around the time when they need investors. I've been reading the rap sheet on this Azhar guy and he appears to be filth of the highest order with delusions. If GOP didn't have anything to do with this and if India is embarrassing Pak because Pak had association with him in the past, the task is simple. Just shoot the idiot and claim victory. Show the world that Pakistan doesn't tolerate terrorism. Simple really. Very simple.

Thank you so much brother.

This is called being a voice of reason.

Not because he subscribes to a particular viewpoint but because of the sound logic.

 

[slipcatch]

Been in PP for long so I know moderation here is very good.

No need to tell me about them.

Mine was a general remark to drive home a point.

——-

I see there is still no concrete response to my post.

I will leave it to ppl to make up their minds.

Good night folks.

Why would Pakistan’s establishment support an attack of such scale when Pakisyan’s Government/establishment is trying to bring investors, tourism, PSL, etc?

I agree Pakistan needs to stop supporting radicalized extremists but Indian also need to stop electing radicalized extremists nutters.

In an ideal world it would happen, In an ideal world Russia, China, US would be friends.

 

[slipcatch]

Why can’t Indian or anyone here answer this simple question, why would Pakistan’s establishment/government support/orchestrated an attack of such scale around the time when Pakistan desperately need foreign investors?

What does Pakistan gain from it?

 

[MRSN]

Even Kashmiri leaders are admitting blaming Pakistan is closing your eyes from facts.

https://youtu.be/_mSOXI9DmB0

What are Indians views about above video?

 

[basitmian]

Can Indian Government take responsibility of what is happening in their own land?
Instead of deflecting their poor management of security on Pakistan.

Pakistan cleaned up FATA from terrorist organizations.

 

[rhony]

Why would Pakistan’s establishment support an attack of such scale when Pakisyan’s Government/establishment is trying to bring investors, tourism, PSL, etc?

I agree Pakistan needs to stop supporting radicalized extremists but Indian also need to stop electing radicalized extremists nutters.

In an ideal world it would happen, In an ideal world Russia, China, US would be friends.

Perception is reality. Currently, the onus is on Pakistan to remove the perception that it was state sponsored. It is a fact that Pakistan suffered the most because of terrorism. It's also a fact that most of them were home bred. It is a mystery to me as to why this Azhar guy is so important. GOP has even requested and garnered support from China to shield him. Is it because of Kashmir? Is Kashmir important to Pakistan than Pakistan itself? Being on the FAFT black list means every investment will go through extra scrutiny. Do you know how damage it could cause to Pak that is already in financial stress? Why would any investor want their fortune scrutinized and why would any investor want to invest where there is a security issue. I'm baffled with the importance given to this guy when the entire financial future and well being of Pakistan is at stake.

 

[Pakistanian]

Even Kashmiri leaders are admitting blaming Pakistan is closing your eyes from facts.

https://youtu.be/_mSOXI9DmB0

What are Indians views about above video?

This deserves its own thread

 

[rhony]

Why can’t Indian or anyone here answer this simple question, why would Pakistan’s establishment/government support/orchestrated an attack of such scale around the time when Pakistan desperately need foreign investors?

What does Pakistan gain from it?

Pakistan gains nothing. There is a risk of being in the grey list of FAFT and there is a risk of finally letting go of the mysterious MVP Azhar. And the perception that there is no "innocent Kashmiri" will be stronger. This looks like a checkmate from India.

 

[rhony]

Can Indian Government take responsibility of what is happening in their own land?
Instead of deflecting their poor management of security on Pakistan.

Pakistan cleaned up FATA from terrorist organizations.

Do you think anybody really cares about any of these? When did Pakistan ever get credit for it. The US withheld aid precisely after the FATA cleanup. Don't be naive. I see politics at the highest level being played and Pakistan being cornered here. Toughest phase for a new PM.

 

[slipcatch]

Perception is reality. Currently, the onus is on Pakistan to remove the perception that it was state sponsored. It is a fact that Pakistan suffered the most because of terrorism. It's also a fact that most of them were home bred. It is a mystery to me as to why this Azhar guy is so important. GOP has even requested and garnered support from China to shield him. Is it because of Kashmir? Is Kashmir important to Pakistan than Pakistan itself? Being on the FAFT black list means every investment will go through extra scrutiny. Do you know how damage it could cause to Pak that is already in financial stress? Why would any investor want their fortune scrutinized and why would any investor want to invest where there is a security issue. I'm baffled with the importance given to this guy when the entire financial future and well being of Pakistan is at stake.

Most Pakistani would appreciate the idea of eliminating radicalized extremists from Pakistan.

FATF is understood.

Now, I ask, again, “Why would Pakistan’s establishment/government support/orchestrated an attack on Indian army of such scale when they totally knows that no foreign government will back them up”.

Remember, no country can win a war unless they have international diplomatic support.

 

[rhony]

Most Pakistani would appreciate the idea of eliminating radicalized extremists from Pakistan.

FATF is understood.

Now, I ask, again, “Why would Pakistan’s establishment/government support/orchestrated an attack on Indian army of such scale when they totally knows that no foreign government will back them up”.

Remember, no country can win a war unless they have international diplomatic support.

My answer is nobody at this point cares if Pak establishment really supported it. Unless the said establishment takes action to absolve themselves of this blame, they will be considered as an aid to this event. Onus is on Pakistan establishment and based on the support and sympathy India received from across the world, the timing of FAFT, the quest of nabbing Azhar for years, this is a win win situation for India.

 

[slipcatch]

My answer is nobody at this point cares if Pak establishment really supported it. Unless the said establishment takes action to absolve themselves of this blame, they will be considered as an aid to this event. Onus is on Pakistan establishment and based on the support and sympathy India received from across the world, the timing of FAFT, the quest of nabbing Azhar for years, this is a win win situation for India.

It does matter.

So, I can safely assume that you can’t answer.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The lack of action taken against actual terrorists roaming scot free in Pakistan is a red flag for starters.

What happened to Hafeez Saeed the freedom fighter?

Cooperate with India if you don't have control over these terrorists.

Man it's soooo damn easy to corner these "but but but but" arguments.

You can wake up a sleeping man but you can't wake up someone pretending to sleep.

Would agree with you, except of course Pakistan has also been hit by terrorists sponsored by India. Even your own countrymen have admitted they do this on this forum. These proxy wars are a disgusting game of one-upmanship but only one country has the economic clout to absorb them, and it's not Pakistan.

 

[90MPH]

Been in PP for long so I know moderation here is very good.

No need to tell me about them.

Mine was a general remark to drive home a point.

——-

I see there is still no concrete response to my post.

I will leave it to ppl to make up their minds.

Good night folks.

It’s the other way round actually.

You have become an awful poster latley. Freelance cricketer has more sensible posts than you, that’s how much you have digressed.

You were once a poster of reason, now all you do is insult others when you don’t have a coherent response. You were even war mongering in a different thread so I challenged you on such an assertion but you didn’t respond.

This is just my opinion as you were once a very good poster even if I didn’t agree with you.

 

[rhony]

It does matter.

So, I can safely assume that you can’t answer.

Not my problem if you can't comprehend. I explained it a couple of times already. Did GOP do it? It would be stupid if they did. If they didn't do it, why aren't they apprehending Azhar

 

[slipcatch]

Not my problem if you can't comprehend. I explained it a couple of times already. Did GOP do it? It would be stupid if they did. If they didn't do it, why aren't they apprehending Azhar

Pakistan will or will not when they wish to.

Apprehending wouldn’t make much of difference unless India stop demonizing Kashmiri Muslims.

 

[slipcatch]

Not my problem if you can't comprehend. I explained it a couple of times already. Did GOP do it? It would be stupid if they did. If they didn't do it, why aren't they apprehending Azhar

Indian Media is reporting that Azhar gave his order from Army hospital.

So I ask again, “Why would Pakistan’s establishment/government support/orchestrated an attack on Indian Army in such grand scale”?

Don’t deflect this question by why not Pakistan arrest him. Government doesn’t arrest people just because a radicalized extremists government say so.

 

[Slog]

The simple fact of the matter is that the attack was conducted by an Indian citizen

 

[Romali_rotti]

Anyway back to the topic, nothing would surprise me, it could be Ahzar or whatever else his name is or the Indians themselves who orchestrated this attack for political gain. Pathetic race of humans both Indians & Pakistanis, filthh of the world....

 

[Runner Up]

In India every celebrity must speak against Pakistan to show their desh bhagti, if you don't, you are a traitor.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

It’s the other way round actually.

You have become an awful poster latley. Freelance cricketer has more sensible posts than you, that’s how much you have digressed.

You were once a poster of reason, now all you do is insult others when you don’t have a coherent response. You were even war mongering in a different thread so I challenged you on such an assertion but you didn’t respond.

This is just my opinion as you were once a very good poster even if I didn’t agree with you.

First of all, I'm sorry you feel that way. Just that I feel a bit sad that some of you guys are so gullible. I just predicted this behavior in the other thread and it's working exactly like I predicted.

Second of all, my posts here in this thread hav no counter arguments. It's not me who doesn't have a coherent response.

Third of all, what challenge. Lol. Saying gautams statements are understandable isn't war mongering. Second of all, playing dirty to take our side of the Kashmir is no big deal but it won't be right.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Would agree with you, except of course Pakistan has also been hit by terrorists sponsored by India. Even your own countrymen have admitted they do this on this forum. These proxy wars are a disgusting game of one-upmanship but only one country has the economic clout to absorb them, and it's not Pakistan.

Fair point.

The thing is that India may be indulging in these activities. I dont know.

Proxy wars are disgusting. Sometimes you are forced to do it if you are relentlessly hit by the opponents.

If someone tears apart 20 books of yours and you tear back 1 in retaliation to stop the other person, both are not the same.

With that bring said, i will not support loss of innocent lives just cos my side lost innocent lives.

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The lack of support of Pakistanis at this hour is so sad. Thankfully a few do and I am grateful for that.

Lets see how things pan out.

 

[troodon]

The simple fact of the matter is that the attack was conducted by an Indian citizen

Trained by an organization based inside Pak,

 

[Kashmirilion]

Trained by an organization based inside Pak,

This is a dumb assertion. Most military guarded border in the world yet this guy has somehow managed to get trained by someone inside pak that too under the nose of 500,000 soldiers and numerous intelligance agents.

Do you see how dumb that actually sounds?

 

[MRSN]

This is a dumb assertion. Most military guarded border in the world yet this guy has somehow managed to get trained by someone inside pak that too under the nose of 500,000 soldiers and numerous intelligance agents.

Do you see how dumb that actually sounds?

This is 2019 and people still believe this stuff. Incredible!

 

[Something]

This is 2019 and people still believe this stuff. Incredible!

Indians believed that actual surgical strikes were carried out so this isn't too far fetched compared with the bollywood narrative of surgical strikes. Their gullible minds would believe anything the media feeds them

 

[MenInG]

Getting flak for his comments in the aftermath of the Pulwama attack, Punjab minister for local bodies and tourism Navjot Singh Sidhu on Sunday hit out at the BJP by reminding it of the release of Jaish-eMohammad (JeM) chief Masood Azhar 20 years ago during the Kandahar standoff in 1999. The minister also sought exemplary action against those behind terrorist activities.

“Those who are branding me as anti-national should tell the people as to who had handed him (Massod) over to Pakistan. What they (BJP) had been doing all these years to get at him”, he asked.

He said his statement had been distorted by people with vested interests. “Nationalism is the highest religion and I stand by my nation”, he said. “I echo the sentiments of my country. India’s voice is my voice and I strongly stand by my party’s stand”, he added.

Reiterating his stand, he said, “Innocent people, women, children, elders should not be punished for the acts of a handful of rogue elements. This is against the teachings of the Sikh gurus and humanitarian law. At the same time, I call for exemplary punishment to the perpetrators of the attack”.

“If you have the guts, bring the guilty back and hang him publically,” he said. “India’s peace and development should not suffer a set back because of a handful of terrorists,” he added.

In the aftermath of the terror attack on a CRPF convoy in Pulwama last week, Sidhu had sadi that “for a handful people, you cannot blame an entire nation.”

‘Will not be cowed down’

Reacting to BJP’s protest on his arrival in the city on Sunday, he said that he was not the one to be cowed down by such acts.

“These are dirty tactics to deter me from campaigning in the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections. Such things have happened in the past but every time I came out even stronger,” he remarked.

Meanwhile a major showdown was averted by the police by intercepting BJP workers who wanted to protest outside zila parishad office where Sidhu had to address a public meeting.

A large number of Congress workers had also gathered outside the venue to counter the demonstrators.

Slogan raising BJP workers were packed off to a distant place in a police bus and were released after Sidhu’s departure. Police personnel had barricaded the area not allowing even the normal traffic to pass through.

Read | Pulwama attack: What has this bloodshed got to do with Kartarpur corridor, asks Navjot Singh Sidhu

‘Never said anything in favour of terrorism’

In another event at Dinanagar in Gurdaspur, he said that the clamour by his opponents over his statement on the incident is politically motivated, and he had not said anything in favour of terrorism.

He, however, evaded queries when asked if there was Pakistan’s hand in the Pulwama IED blast, which claimed lives of 40 CRPF jawans.

Sidhu also rubbished the ‘rumours’ that he has been asked by the Sony TV to leave The Kapil Sharma Show. He said that he had not received any communique in this regard and added that he is still very much part of the comedy show.

Sidhu also visited the house of CRPF jawan Maninder Singh, who was martyred in Thursday’s terrorist attack, in Dinanagar and extended his sympathy to the members of the bereaved family. He said that Maninder and his other colleagues had sacrificed their lives for the country and the whole nation stands by their families in this hour of crisis.

Later, Sidhu laid foundation down stones for Rs 36-crore sewerage treatment plant and development works of sewerage and water supply near Daburji village in Dinanagar.

Sidhu informed the locals that the state government will be spending a sum of Rs 100 crore to give a face lift to Dinanagar.

Punjab transport minister and Dinanagar MLA Aruna Chaudhary, former Gurdaspur district Congress committee president Ashok Chaudhary and officers from the sewerage and water supply department were also present.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...of-kandahar/story-AaCJkiquOw2d5FI5e0UpVK.html

 

[slipcatch]

Fair point.

The thing is that India may be indulging in these activities. I dont know.

Proxy wars are disgusting. Sometimes you are forced to do it if you are relentlessly hit by the opponents.

If someone tears apart 20 books of yours and you tear back 1 in retaliation to stop the other person, both are not the same.

With that bring said, i will not support loss of innocent lives just cos my side lost innocent lives.

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The lack of support of Pakistanis at this hour is so sad. Thankfully a few do and I am grateful for that.

Lets see how things pan out.

Please try not to delude Pakistani defending against the hysteria coming out of India as not supporting India in this hour.

I do not speak for the rest of the Pakistan but the Pakistani I know, 100% condemn any attack on Indian civilian or army, they all believe only political solution can solve this cycle of killing.

Also, let’s not pretend to be naive. Time to face the reality by both side of the border and time to quash the voice of extremism from both side and at the moment it seems like India’s is in no mood of doing that, at least not until before elections.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We stand united &#55357;&#56687; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PulwamaAttack?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PulwamaAttack</a> <a href="https://t.co/Cmeij5X1On">pic.twitter.com/Cmeij5X1On</a></p>— Sania Mirza (@MirzaSania) <a href="https://twitter.com/MirzaSania/status/1097041875012280320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[sensible-indian-fan]

Please try not to delude Pakistani defending against the hysteria coming out of India as not supporting India in this hour.

I do not speak for the rest of the Pakistan but the Pakistani I know, 100% condemn any attack on Indian civilian or army, they all believe only political solution can solve this cycle of killing.

Also, let’s not pretend to be naive. Time to face the reality by both side of the border and time to quash the voice of extremism from both side and at the moment it seems like India’s is in no mood of doing that, at least not until before elections.

Yes Pakistan is in full mood to arrest the international terrorists roaming free on their land?

Lmaooo.

I am chuckling at all the speeches made in various threads which is bereft of ground reality.

Also don't think that me attacking Pak establishment means I don't think there are no mistakes on our side.

Just yesterday a former RAW official stated such attacks cannot happen without a serious intelligence lapse.

Its just that multiple things can be tackled at the same time.

 

[MenInG]

Chandigarh: Punjab finance minister Manpreet Badal on Monday was forced to cut short his budget presentation in the assembly on Monday due to protests by Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) leaders over cabinet minister Navjot Singh Sidhu’s remarks on the Pulwama attack.

SAD MLAs trooped into the Well of the House demanding the resignation of the Congress leader, who had said a country (Pakistan) can’t be blamed for the actions of a few individuals.


Before the start of the Punjab budget session, Akali leaders set ablaze photographs of Sidhu, including those in which he is seen hugging the Pakistan Army chief, outside the House.


In the assembly, SAD leader Bikram Majithia and his supporters shouted slogans against Sidhu and hurled copies of the photographs at him. The legislators, who were wearing black badges, also tried to disrupt Sidhu’s reply by yelling slogans against him.

Sidhu then entered into a verbal duel with Majithia even as the speaker asked them not to disrupt the Question Hour.

The two leaders took potshots at each other, with Majithia asking the government to sack Sidhu for his “anti-national” remarks.

“Sidhu ka Pak prem murdabad (Down with Sidhu’s love for Pakistan),” he said, to which Sidhu said, “Tu Chitta Bikau, Chor, Daaku (You’re a chitta smuggler, thief and dacoit)”.

As the SAD leaders walked out of the House, senior cabinet minister Sukhjinder Singh Randhawa said, “Despite it being our government, Majithia is threatening us and the government is doing nothing. He should be put behind the bars.”

All through the ruckus, Sidhu was virtually stranded alone to build his defence, as initially, none of the Congress leaders came to his aid.

The Congressmen sat aloof, watching silently, as Sidhu engaged in the fierce altercation that lasted for almost 10 minutes.

It was only during the last few minutes of the duel that party colleague Inderbir Singh Bolaria came to Sidhu’s rescue. Subsequently, other Congress leaders, too, rose up as chaos in the House intensified.

After his repeated appeals to douse the fiery argument fell flat on deaf ears, speaker Rana KP Singh asked the House marshals to escort the protesting members out of the House for the day’s proceedings. The House was then temporarily adjourned.

As the House proceedings resumed at 1 pm, Manpreet Singh Badal continued with his budget speech.

Sidhu had visited Pakistan to attend the oath-taking ceremony of Imran Khan, a cricketer-turned-politician, as Prime Minister on August 18 last year.

While reacting to the Pulwama attack, in which 40 CRPF lost their lives, Sidhu has said, “Terrorism has no religion and no country”. His comments created a great furore on social media and in political circles.

"Before everything else, we want to know the clear stand of the Congress and the Punjab government. Do they condemn the Pakistan Army Chief and Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan?" Majithia asked, while speaking to reporters outside the House.

“After passing a unanimous resolution in the House for condemning the Pulwama terror attack, Sidhu was still saying ‘You cannot blame Pakistan, you cannot blame individuals’," Majithia said.

Time and again, Sidhu has been accused of harbouring a soft corner for Pakistan and its Prime Minister.

He earlier courted controversy when he visited the neighbouring country for Khan’s swearing-in ceremony where he hugged Pakistan Army Chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa.

He again visited Pakistan for the foundation stone-laying ceremony of the Kartarpur corridor.

Sidhu has repeatedly said that he should be “judged for what he said and not for he didn’t say”.

https://www.news18.com/news/politic...-pakistan-visit-2040129.html?ref=hp_top_pos_4

 

[Realromeo]

Yes Pakistan is in full mood to arrest the international terrorists roaming free on their land?

Lmaooo.

I am chuckling at all the speeches made in various threads which is bereft of ground reality.

Also don't think that me attacking Pak establishment means I don't think there are no mistakes on our side.

Just yesterday a former RAW official stated such attacks cannot happen without a serious intelligence lapse.

Its just that multiple things can be tackled at the same time.

Which channel were you watching in News 7 Tamil? He stated that we have one of the best intelligence in the world after US, Israel, UK and France. I totally agree with that. We are also the capital of tech world. We produce the best tech talents. Our intelligence gathering is top notch though communications. The key for terrorists is not to compete with us and they know it. So they don't communicate with via internet or mobile phones. Everything is done through personal contact. The ethnic Kashmiri population offers 0 cooperation, so it is very difficult to gather intelligence. This is why the US spent trillion dollars in Afghan fighting several thousand uneducated sheepherders and couldn't beat them. Kashmiri terrorists have no enemy in their home land, their own population sees them as heroes. Besides who would think anyone would attack a military carrying 30 convoys ?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Which channel were you watching in News 7 Tamil? He stated that we have one of the best intelligence in the world after US, Israel, UK and France. I totally agree with that. We are also the capital of tech world. We produce the best tech talents. Our intelligence gathering is top notch though communications. The key for terrorists is not to compete with us and they know it. So they don't communicate with via internet or mobile phones. Everything is done through personal contact. The ethnic Kashmiri population offers 0 cooperation, so it is very difficult to gather intelligence. This is why the US spent trillion dollars in Afghan fighting several thousand uneducated sheepherders and couldn't beat them. Kashmiri terrorists have no enemy in their home land, their own population sees them as heroes. Besides who would think anyone would attack a military carrying 30 convoys ?

https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...an-says-ex-raw-chief/articleshow/68036674.cms

You do one thing bhai.

You stop posting.

You are confidently posting nonsense in multiple groups. Dunno if you are trolling or you are actually serious.

Because of BJP involvement in TN, upper caste Tamils are now learning more about their caste eh?

 

[Pak Warrior]

The thing about truth is that it remains true no matter what happens. I admire a man that speaks the truth. Especially among a frenzied hindu radical population. Indians dont wanna hear the truth, but that doesn't change the truth. Please listen to the truth with a open mind and ears, and stop crying

 

[Aman]

Sidhu the only sane person left in India.

 

[Aman]

In India every celebrity must speak against Pakistan to show their desh bhagti, if you don't, you are a traitor.

It's remarkable the reaction to the most sane voice out there.

Shows where the power and the position of the country - too emotional and not uneducated.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IskaImpactAyegaKiNahi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IskaImpactAyegaKiNahi</a> <a href="https://t.co/GwKhkWtCLn">pic.twitter.com/GwKhkWtCLn</a></p>— Navjot Singh Sidhu (@sherryontopp) <a href="https://twitter.com/sherryontopp/status/1097544367731105798?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[MP2011]

https://thewire.in/film/sting-page-three-celebrities-will-post-propaganda-for-cash

See the kind of depths quite a few Indian celebrities will stoop to, only if offered some cash! Anyone knowing these celebrities enough, will tell you where their leanings lie.

 

[slipcatch]

Yes Pakistan is in full mood to arrest the international terrorists roaming free on their land?

Lmaooo.

I am chuckling at all the speeches made in various threads which is bereft of ground reality.

Also don't think that me attacking Pak establishment means I don't think there are no mistakes on our side.

Just yesterday a former RAW official stated such attacks cannot happen without a serious intelligence lapse.

Its just that multiple things can be tackled at the same time.

International terrorist? Attacking occupying Indian army only.

 

[Suleiman]

Tbh I always respected him as a person and even as a cricketer. He had this X factor back then which a lot of Indian batsmen didn't have.

 

[Majid Khan]

There were some comments made recently by Liam Neeson about how he once felt anger against a whole community because of the actions of one criminal , which triggered accusations of racism.

I am not implying anything here but just curious as to how the prevailing mindset in India is any different where they are directing anger and hatred against not just the extremist elements or Pakistani state even for their policies, but all people from that country , including artists and singers and even a blind cricket team from Pakistan if they were touring now would not get spared from the venom...?

On the other side in Pakistan there is also a lot of emotion and sensitivity on Kashmir issue, but people generally do not associate the atrocities committed by Indian forces with Indian cricketers or Bollywood stars who are very popular in Pakistan.

The bottom line is with the level of deep rooted hatred that appears to be spreading on the Indian side against Pakistan and anything associated with that country thanks to the politicians, the unfortunate reality is no matter even if Islamabad followed and implemented every order given by Delhi, the Indians would still not be satisfied and find something to still condemn Pakistan for just purely out of hatred.

Let’s hope for peace one day .. but whether we will be lucky to see it in our lifetimes only time will tell, I’m sceptical..

 

[MP2011]

Let’s hope for peace one day .. but whether we will be lucky to see it in our lifetimes only time will tell, I’m sceptical..

I'd love to be proved wrong but I don't think I'll see peace between India-Pakistan in my lifetime at least.

 

[MenInG]

As per Kapil Sharma, Punjab Cabinet Minister and television personality Navjot Singh Sidhu has been replaced by Archana Puran Singh on 'The Kapil Sharma Show' because of the former's unavailability.

The comedian recently attended Art of Living's event on Drug Free India campaign at Chandigarh University and on being asked to comment on Sidhu's ouster from the show, Kapil said, "Abhi Navjot Singh Sidhu ke kuch aur commitment hain isliye humare saath Archana Puran Singh shoot kar rahe hain. Maujuda waqt mein Sidhu humaare sath nahi hain. (Because of some prior commitments of Navjot Singh Sidhu, currently Archana Puran Singh is shooting with us.)," shared Zee News reporter Rajan Sharma.

"Halaaki ye bahut choti cheezein hain, ya phir propoganda hota hai jinmein iss tareeke ke baatein aati hain. Mere manna yeh hai ki kisi ko ban karna na, Navjot Singh Sidhu ko show she bahaar karna in baaton ka solution nahi hai. Ek Sthai samadhaan humein milkar dekhna hoga."


(All this is mere propaganda. I believe banning people, sending Navjot Singh Sidhu out of the show is not the right solution. We need to look for a permanent solution.)

Speaking about the ban on Pakistani artistes, Kapil said, "Hum insab cheezon mein sarkar ke saath hain lekin phir bhi ek sthai samaadhan ki zarurat hai. Pulwama mein jin logo ne kayrana tareeke se humaare jawaano ko shahid kiya unko dhundh dhundh kar marna chahiye jismein pura desh sarkar ke saath khada hai."

(We are with the government on this but we need a permanent solution. We need to find and kill each one of those who cowardly attacked our soldiers in Pulwama. The entire nation stands with the government.)

Sidhu recently uploaded a video on Twitter saying: “I had to attend Vidhan Sabha’s session due to which I couldn’t go for the shoots of The Kapil Sharma Show and they got somebody else in my replacement for two episodes. I have no intimation about my termination from the channel. If it is regarding my statement, I will stick to what I have been saying yesterday, today and ever tomorrow.”

The channel took the decision to replace him with actor Archana Puran Singh as his comments on the Pulwama terror attack irked some netizens

https://www.dnaindia.com/television...sharma-show-is-not-the-right-solution-2721359

 

[90MPH]

Glad Kapil Sharma is at least backing Sidhu. That’s what a true friend should be.

And I’m glad he’s pointing his fingers on the disgusting Indian media machine. They have become nothing but a state backed propaganda arm for the BJP Modi government. None of them have any courage to question their disastrous policies in Kashmir but instead have questioned about other complete nonsense.

 

[MP2011]

Glad Kapil Sharma is at least backing Sidhu. That’s what a true friend should be.

And I’m glad he’s pointing his fingers on the disgusting Indian media machine. They have become nothing but a state backed propaganda arm for the BJP Modi government. None of them have any courage to question their disastrous policies in Kashmir but instead have questioned about other complete nonsense.

I agree with you but disagree with you that none of them have courage to question Modi and his cahoots. Quite a few media outlets like NDTV, thewire, theprint, scroll.in, AltNews etc routinely expose him.

 

[Realromeo]

https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...an-says-ex-raw-chief/articleshow/68036674.cms

You do one thing bhai.

You stop posting.

You are confidently posting nonsense in multiple groups. Dunno if you are trolling or you are actually serious.

Because of BJP involvement in TN, upper caste Tamils are now learning more about their caste eh?

Stop telling me what to do bhai

Who is trolling me or the one who would want to invade another country ?

Who mentioned anything about upper castes ? The "upper castes" have always known their caste, if you are told for centuries that you are the chosen one, you are closer to god, people below you drinking out of the same cup as you is a sin then how will these "upper castes" forget their place lol. I'm talking about rest of the "Castes" that grew up for a very long time without knowing our castes and weren't taught about it.

 

[Waseem]

Can you blame the entire nation??

Expect anything from Indians suffering from severe hyper nationalism.

Start a nuclear war
Kill ALL Pakistanis
Ban their singers
Remove their songs from Youtube
Remove their songs from movies
Deny their sportsmen visas
Boycott cricket
Force ICC to ban Pakistan from world cup
Stop exporting them LAAL tomatoes
Stop their water
Kill all Kashmiris (but yes dont give inch of their land)
Kashmiris banned form colleges and universities
Pakistanis asked to leave India

SERIOUSLY, how pathetic can some people be? Same people take pride in sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan through Kalhushan, Ajit Doval etc and know some of their sponsored terrorists launched worst attack in history of Pakistan (or world) where 130 + children (in APS) were murdered by terrorists from Afghanistan (proudly supported by Indians??).