Catches dropped off Mohammad Amir's bowling since his comeback to cricket

[Sunny786]

Gotta feel for the guy. I think he has had at least a dozen or more catches dropped off his bowling since his comeback. There's nothing he can really do about it but it must hurt his confidence.

 

[s28]

7 in Eng vs Pak series alone

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Feel bad for him. Had a catch dropped by Hafeez in the NZ ODIs that lost us the game too.

 

[Belawal2014]

Feel bad for him. Had a catch dropped by Hafeez in the NZ ODIs that lost us the game too.

Why do they keep putting him in the slips...he drops about half of them coming his way.

 

[kingusama92]

I think he was lost for words after that Sarfraz drop in the 1st ODI.

Just horrible.

 

[Square Drive]

I think he was lost for words after that Sarfraz drop in the 1st ODI.

Just horrible.

If I were him, I'd probably announce a temporary retirement right there and then.

Really for the lad.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Enough with these people on their moral high horse. Saying he deserves these drops etc. Its fine if you dont forgive him but some snakes are wanting him to fail meaning they dont care how the team does. They need to realize that he is easily the best bowler in Pakistan and we should support him.

 

[shebimalik]

Enough with these people on their moral high horse. Saying he deserves these drops etc. Its fine if you dont forgive him but some snakes are wanting him to fail meaning they dont care how the team does. They need to realize that he is easily the best bowler in Pakistan and we should support him.

Rashid latif said that amir and gul were not trying to take wickets they were bowling just for time pass

 

[The_KING]

He should get his swing back so he is able to get batsman out via bowled or lbw. Then he wouldn't have to worry about players dropping catches of his bowling.

 

[JilaWatan]

i wish there was a stat in cricket similar to MLB's FIP (fielding independent pitching), which basically calculates avg that does not include defensive fielding (ie misfields, dropped catches, booted balls) they dont count against your avg. perhaps that number alone would give amir some confidence and hope

 

[kingusama92]

Rashid latif said that amir and gul were not trying to take wickets they were bowling just for time pass

Says the biggest supporter of Mohammad Sami and other useless Karachi players.

 

[yasir]

Lot of these catches were dropped in first spell of not only matches but series, it's very damaging for the confidence of bowler, specially for one who is expected to make break through upfront. Also against top openers, Cook in first test upfront, Guptill in NZ, Jason Roy yesterday. One wickets will fetch you more in these matches and put team upfront.

It's very hard to see so many catches drop and you cannot do anything about it. When Imran,Wasim, Waqar and Akther had drop catches, they use to abuse fielders Punjabi style, that helped them in a way to take their frustration out. With Amir, senior and fielders are getting away with murder, no pressure or guilt. This is making matter worse for him.

As a bowler I have seen catches dropped, even in non professional cricket, Maa bhaan ail kar datay ho fielder Ki... Little things like that helps you to get over it in some ways. Living like a third class citizen(you are working like hell but have no rights) is much harder in those situations. You want this phase to over soon, for him it is becoming a never ending story, it has been 9 months and drop catches are getting from bad to worse [emoji84][emoji84][emoji84][emoji84]


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[Xoib]

maybe he bowls better he can create more chances currently he is bowling bowling worse then Junaid.

 

[Itachi]

It's called karma. Bad deeds will bite you back.

Now he can't even complain because the reply he'll get is..... "i am incompetent but I try my best, on the other hand, you are talented but you sold our country."

 

[Junaids]

maybe he bowls better he can create more chances currently he is bowling bowling worse then Junaid.

The entire English cricket media disagrees.

They all state that he's not quite as good as in 2010 - something's not quite right - but he's still far better than any other Pakistan bowler.

 

[QalandarFan]

Poor guy, really feel for him. Felt like crying when Sarfraz dropped that catch! He would have been one of the best bowlers of the series had all the catches been taken. I remember a lot catches were dropped off his bowling in the NZ Series.

 

[Hawkeye]

The entire English cricket media disagrees.

They all state that he's not quite as good as in 2010 - something's not quite right - but he's still far better than any other Pakistan bowler.

Or perhaps the 2010 exploits got exaggerated because of super green mambas and batsmen who were not at their best.

Smith was clueless back then, he's much better now.

Those conditions and skill level of players were different. Even Jimmy Anderson largely failed this 2016 tour.

Anderson couldn't bowl his usual lethal clouderson spells.

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Rashid latif said that amir and gul were not trying to take wickets they were bowling just for time pass

I despise those people who question the intent of our national team players. Its not just rashid, i have seen some pakistani fans calling our national team players snakes without any reason. They do not deserve to be called fans.

 

[sajeebmcj]

england fielders dropped more catches than pakistan. i think at least 5 catches. do english bother about that?

 

[cricketInsight]

Was a catch also dropped in the ODI?

 

[JibranAnsari]

The sarfraz one was definitely the easiest. I am pretty sure hafeez would have dropped the catch if it had nicked if amirs bowling

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

It's called karma. Bad deeds will bite you back.

Now he can't even complain because the reply he'll get is..... "i am incompetent but I try my best, on the other hand, you are talented but you sold our country."

HE HAS PAID FOR HIS DEEDS, THEY HAVE BITEN HIM ALREADY
also do you really think Karma exists? If so why do cirrupt and killer people keep on rising in power in the world. Why did karma never bite people who are generals and command strikes that they know kill children?

 

[yasir]

The sarfraz one was definitely the easiest. I am pretty sure hafeez would have dropped the catch if it had nicked if amirs bowling

I am more mad at Gul, what the hell he was doing there, he was less than a yard away. As Mike said, it was his catch unless he is a baby [emoji849][emoji849][emoji849]

Right now it looks like dropping Amir's catch is no consequence in dressing room, **** happens, it better to do against Amir, who cannot say a word. I wonder how long this BS can go on, at some point not just Amir but fans and coaches will loose patient... Media will start talking about it and ask these players why they are dropping so many on Amir's bowling[emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]




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[Bilal7]

Nothing to be concerned about. He has been bowling well and the wickets will come soon enough.

 

[Fahdi]

I really hope a few catches off his bowling get taken without any drops in between. There are already whispers of I'll intention, saying that his catches are being dropped deliberately. I just want such rumors to be put to rest.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I am more mad at Gul, what the hell he was doing there, he was less than a yard away. As Mike said, it was his catch unless he is a baby [emoji849][emoji849][emoji849]

Right now it looks like dropping Amir's catch is no consequence in dressing room, **** happens, it better to do against Amir, who cannot say a word. I wonder how long this BS can go on, at some point not just Amir but fans and coaches will loose patient... Media will start talking about it and ask these players why they are dropping so many on Amir's bowling[emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]




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Sarfraz probably called 'mine' , in any case this was an easy catch and sarfraz should have taken it. It must be frustrating for amir that he can't complain at the moment and this must be affecting him mentally. Yah he made a mistake in the past , did his time and how as he is back he should be able to react like all others.

 

[Faisalsq092]

It all started with Afridi dropping a sitter of Kane Williamson. Should have been Amir's first wicket after his comeback. Perhaps those were the signs of the things to come.

 

[Pete Rose]

It happened. he has to take solace in the fact that his bowling has been respectable. His luck will turn.

 

[Convict]

How is it karma?

Dropped catches damage the team more than just the bowler

 

[MenInG]

Be very careful about making accusations/allegations about deliberately dropped catches etc.

 

[#GreenRoars]

The expressions on Amir's face showed how frustrated he was.

 

[hadi123]

I doubt the catches are dropped deliberately. Most people on this thread don't even play league cricket. I play league cricket and when a catch is coming towards you, everything either feels like it's slowing down or it happens in a flash. After most of the catches I take it takes me a moment for me to clock what just happened . doubt players have time to think that they will on purpose drop catches. Pakistan's fielding has always been awful, maybe if a team like SA who have fielders like de Villiers started dropping relatively easy catches then I would think so, but I highly doubt these catches have been dropped by choice. It would be highly contradictory for Hafeez to say statements like "Amir disgraced our country" and then drop catches as that is also disgracing his country by losing matches cos some catches dropped of his bowling really could have changed the game.

 

[yasir]

england fielders dropped more catches than pakistan. i think at least 5 catches. do english bother about that?

And there is lot of talk about that in the media as well. Dropped catches has been blamed for draw series BTW.

But, what add fuel to the fire in case of Pakistan, that half of those dropped catches are on one bowler, not same for England. Even Finn was really frustrated on dropped catches, because he was bowling well without wickets.

 

[yasir]

I doubt the catches are dropped deliberately. Most people on this thread don't even play league cricket. I play league cricket and when a catch is coming towards you, everything either feels like it's slowing down or it happens in a flash. After most of the catches I take it takes me a moment for me to clock what just happened . doubt players have time to think that they will on purpose drop catches. Pakistan's fielding has always been awful, maybe if a team like SA who have fielders like de Villiers started dropping relatively easy catches then I would think so, but I highly doubt these catches have been dropped by choice. It would be highly contradictory for Hafeez to say statements like "Amir disgraced our country" and then drop catches as that is also disgracing his country by losing matches cos some catches dropped of his bowling really could have changed the game.

They were not deliberate but suggesting that its bad karma or ok to drop on Amir is utter non-sense by some PPers. On the flip side, Amir cannot show his frustration like every other bowler shows on those occasion. This is making matter worse for Amir, mentally. We all want this to go away, but this is going on and on...

 

[Buffet]

Eh, who drops catches deliberately?

 

[Sunny786]

I didn't make this thread for people to start accusing others of dropping. I've dropped catches as well and it feels like crap. No one does it deliberately. Even rahat and yasir have had catches dropped off their bowling but Amir has unfortunately had the most which must feel awful. I just hope it doesn't affect Amir and he keeps on bowling his heart out. Pakistan definitely need to improve their catching because catches win matches.

 

[Itachi]

Exactly this makes them as much culprit as him

I would even go on to say his "bad deeds" were harmless compared to this stuff. A couple of no bowls in a test match are not even close to as bad for the country as dropping catches

Nope. His bad deeds aren't harmless because his deed not only damaged Pakistan cricket but it made question on integrity of cricket (.... Along with azhar, asif, butt).

Mediocrity is common. Some people are talented, some are not.

Some try hard yet they fail.

But what unacceptable is, deliberately doing something (underperform) in exchange of self interest at the expanse of Country and the game.

Yes, it is much harmful to cricket than thousands of dropped catches.

Go beyond the level of nation and think cricket as an element holding all together. You'll realize what point I am trying to make.

 

[Itachi]

They were not deliberate but suggesting that its bad karma or ok to drop on Amir is utter non-sense by some PPers. On the flip side, Amir cannot show his frustration like every other bowler shows on those occasion. This is making matter worse for Amir, mentally. We all want this to go away, but this is going on and on...

Dropped catches would have happened regardless whether amir was bowling or not. Mediocrity doesn't come with conditions. Even if it wasn't amir but some x, y, z bowler, same dropped catches will happen.

But the difference is, amir can't held others accountable due to his tainted past. Though another bowler would have at least could show some emotions Because their integrity isn't under question. That's what karma does to you.

Pakistan is suffering Because you guys chose players who are incompetent in fielding.

But amir is suffering Because of his past deeds.

 

[pakpukhtun]

amir has been bowling amazing and I have watched all his tests and odi games so far. Hes just not get a break.once the luck comes on his side watch out!!

 

[Shafi]

First of all, I didn't say it was deliberate. I said exactly opposite. Don't change words in my argument. Read carefully, twice/thrice if needed.

Second, it isn't about what others will say to amir. But it is an irony that amir had brought it upon himself due to his past deeds.

When you are convicted, and do your deeds, in real life, you don't start from zero (in theory yes, in practice no), you start from negative end. That's why, amir will never be able to make himself ask accountability from others. The issue isn't with others, the issue will be within him. Because what he did was indeed thousand times worse than simple mediocrity.

Than let award players $1000/drop drop catch and we will be among top 20th ranking.

 

[Itachi]

Than let award players $1000/drop drop catch and we will be among top 20th ranking.

What I really believe is, what's lacking isn't player power but a fielding culture.

You guys are trying hard to find who is better fielder.

If I were in charge, instead I would have tried to install fielding culture in existing players and upcoming ones.

Replacing one with the other isn't a long term solution. Soon, you'll run out of options.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Fine, but still he didn't look as threatening, so well deserved performances from him so far.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Why do they keep putting him in the slips...he drops about half of them coming his way.

Because he catches half of them coming his way.

 

[zn426]

I'm not inclined to believe that they're dropping him intentionally. Pakistani fielding has historically been poor and that is not something that has changed in the current era.

And it's frankly absurd. You should not let your grudge for another player get in the way of playing the match properly. Team comes first, and if the coach, selectors, and captain felt it was okay for Amir to return to the side, then just be quiet and accept it. Everyone of these players are paid to do a job.

 

[shebimalik]

9 catches dropped off Mohammad Amir's bowling since comeback
2 by Hafeez & Sarfaraz
1 by Afridi, Sohaib, Younis Khan, Asaq Shafiq, Azhar Ali

 

[Ab Fan]

Amir is a very good bowler who got unlucky with dropped catches and could / should have done better in this series but still the overall performance by him was not a world class bowler level.

He showed a few glimpses of a world class performance but was pretty inconsistent with his line and length. He should have done much better with new ball too.

Overall a good bowling performance + poor luck with catch + good luck with wickets of tailenders makes it a fair result for him.

 

[Ab Fan]

Fans shouldn't forget he made up for his bad luck by taking quite a few tailenders wickets in that series and hence the output he got was pretty fair enough.

 

[yasir]

Here is list of all drop catches:

https://www.facebook.com/Cric.Pakistan.92/videos/674105192745487/

3/4 catches were game changing.
1. First KW catch, a dolly dropped by Afridi, he end up making match winning innings. Second match of the tour, series could have won,not only Amir by Pakistan could have an impact full series.

2. Cook dropped in first test at 22, then 55, he made 88. He could have been under pressure with a poor show, we won the match but could have got a mental edge over Cook.

3. Ali dropped, a sitter, he end up making 110, a costly miss.

4. Roy in first ODI, we could have taken that advantage.

Those first spell catches are most devastating, half of these catches were in first spell of Amir. On these flat decks, it's hard to keep taking wickets, specially when there is no scoreboard pressure, Pakistan of all teams, cannot afford to drop first spell catches( they don't have 5th bowler either, it's double whammy) [emoji84][emoji84][emoji84]




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[marlonbrowndo]

Here is list of all drop catches:

https://www.facebook.com/Cric.Pakistan.92/videos/674105192745487/

3/4 catches were game changing.
1. First KW catch, a dolly dropped by Afridi, he end up making match winning innings. Second match of the tour, series could have won,not only Amir by Pakistan could have an impact full series.

2. Cook dropped in first test at 22, then 55, he made 88. He could have been under pressure with a poor show, we won the match but could have got a mental edge over Cook.

3. Ali dropped, a sitter, he end up making 110, a costly miss.

4. Roy in first ODI, we could have taken that advantage.

Those first spell catches are most devastating, half of these catches were in first spell of Amir. On these flat decks, it's hard to keep taking wickets, specially when there is no scoreboard pressure, Pakistan of all teams, cannot afford to drop first spell catches( they don't have 5th bowler either, it's double whammy) [emoji84][emoji84][emoji84]




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Just to correct you there we won that game and it turned out to be a match losing innings.

 

[yasir]

Just to correct you there we won that game and it turned out to be a match losing innings.

I mixed up the match probably. Either way, getting wood against oppositions best batsmen is always important. Amir had chance to do that against KW and Cook. On the other hand, he did get under the skin of Rohit Sharma.


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[chacha kashmiri]

Eh, who drops catches deliberately?

Mohammed Sami and Danish Kaneria had the same bad luck
But they had Kamran Akmal

 

[Buffet]

Mohammed Sami and Danish Kaneria had the same bad luck
But they had Kamran Akmal

Kamran case was something rare. If I recall it right, I remember that missed stumping chance and it looked intentional to be honest.

You can't say that for many current players. No one likes to drop catches intentionally.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Kamran case was something rare. If I recall it right, I remember that missed stumping chance and it looked intentional to be honest.

You can't say that for many current players. No one likes to drop catches intentionally.

Kamran is still good enough to get into the team as a batter alone
It's a shame the keeping lets him down

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

People underestimate it but it makes a huge difference to some guy playing his first test series after a long time in such pressure.

Unfortunately those dismissals weren't meant to be.


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[slice]

Two catches gone down off Mohammad Amir's bowling already...

title says it.
later some armchair critics will have a look at the scorecard comment on how dry his wickets column is.
Aamir pretty much did what he was supposed to.Decent lines,good pace,snared edges.Hasnt happened the first time

 

[Varun]

Pakistan has been out of luck this game.

 

[s28]

Misbah and Sami dropping dollies.

Commentators say quite pointedly they haven't seen Misbah participating in any slip catching training sessions

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Misbah and Sami dropping dollies.

Commentators say quite pointedly they haven't seen Misbah participating in any slip catching training sessions

He is 41. Reflexes would slow down at this age, shouldn't be standing in slips.

 

[Xoib]

Pakistan has been out of luck this game.

dropped catches are not luck its skill like batting and bowling.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mohammad Amir being reminded of rule number 1 of Pakistani pace bowling:<br>Don't rely on fielders, just aim for the stumps<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvWI?src=hash">#PakvWI</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/793761901356445696">November 2, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Varun]

He is 41. Reflexes would slow down at this age, shouldn't be standing in slips.

Slips is where the slower guys stand in any team: recall Inzamam in years past.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Slips is where the slower guys stand in any team: recall Inzamam in years past.

Slips needs reflexes big time.

Dravid declined badly as a slip fielder when he aged.

 

[Varun]

Slips needs reflexes big time.

Dravid declined badly as a slip fielder when he aged.

But then Misbah or Inzamam would be more of a liability in the outfield than in the slips. Their reflexes may be at 80%, but their athleticism will be far lower.

Hence slips is the least risky position for the older guys.

 

[Abdullah719]

Slips is where the slower guys stand in any team: recall Inzamam in years past.

That doesn't mean you go and put your slowest runner in the slips... imagine Zulfi Babar there.

Don't see any consistency in the slip cordon. You can't just put people there randomly.

Gotta know who your slip fielders are and stick with them.

Anyway - I don't think Misbah is all that slow.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

But then Misbah or Inzamam would be more of a liability in the outfield than in the slips. Their reflexes may be at 80%, but their athleticism will be far lower.

Hence slips is the least risky position for the older guys.

Lack of athleticism can cost you a few runs.

Dropped catches can cost you matches.

 

[Hamza78]

And people said he's not good enough wen target is 150 and u drop two dolly lol

 

[Moiza]

Why only Amir?

Ever since he has rejoined the team there have been catches dropped left and right and few of them were very easy.

Starting from New Zealand where afridi and maqsood dropped absolute sitters to England where Sarfraz dropped an undroppable catch. In between these there have been many catches dropped which would otherwise be taken.

Another unusual things about this situation is that only Amir is having his catches dropped, other bowlers seems to have more difficult catches taken whereas dollies on Amir are being dropped. For a long time now it seemed quite intentional to me but after the 2 drops today it seems that it may not be as unintentional after all.

Has this started to seem intentional to anyone else too?

 

[Varun]

Will be one grand conspiracy if it's intentional, but I don't reckon it is.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Oh come on, this is doing the cricket world a favor. Okay.

Years from now, someone will log on to their Google hologram device and will look at these videos and smile in a depressing day. The little passage of play that I saw today was more memorable than Azhar Ali's 302* if I'm honest.

Nawaz's (lack of) batting, Azhar Ali's wicket, Amir's run out, Wahab's something, Yasir's fear, Babar's chikka and chowka, and the two dropped catches. Literally I was kinda low key frustrated at losing the match but then saw this and I'm kinda in hysterical fits of laughter.

This is entertaining even if it is at our cost. That's why the world of cricket needs Pakistan. Seriously. Okay.

Pls Woerld, U needs Pakistan Cwicket.

 

[Slog]

he creates more chances?

 

[Mamoon]

The problem with emphasizing on his dropped catches means that the fact that in spite of the dropped catches, his bowling has not been at the level we thought it would be gets brushed under the carpet.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Oh God no...not another conspiracy.

Just unlucky.

 

[Moiza]

Will be one grand conspiracy if it's intentional, but I don't reckon it is.

Im far from someone who would believe such a thing but this is going on for too long now plus some of the catches he has had dropped are almost impossible to drop. And not to mention the fact that this only happens to him from all the bowlers

 

[Mamoon]

In spite of the dropped catches, his bowling is still sub-standard.

 

[Moiza]

he creates more chances?

Very valid point which I had not considered. But still if you look at the catch Afridi dropped in New zealand and Sarfraz in England, those were too easy to drop.

 

[Slog]

Very valid point which I had not considered. But still if you look at the catch Afridi dropped in New zealand and Sarfraz in England, those were too easy to drop.

yes there have been some howlers

but tbh in 2010 he was having more dropped off his bowling

 

[Sherlock]

It's become a ridiculous parody in itself.

 

[Moiza]

In spite of the dropped catches, his bowling is still sub-standard.

I bet all the catches being dropped left and right fills him of confidence. I still think that these dropped catches have cost him more wickets than the wickets off of the dropped catches only. But he was always over hyped playing in New zealand, Australia and England.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

In spite of the dropped catches, his bowling is still sub-standard.

Do I love your posts or do I love your posts. Major lol here.

Pls Mamoon. No. Stahp. Okay? please.

The thing is, a bowler at his best (I'm saying his because I don't watch women cricket that much or follow it as a matter of fact), generates about 3 chances an innings. Like let's go by Dale Steyn or James (your favorite) Anderson and see their strike rates which is roughly 45.

If you drop like one chance an innings in crunch situations, even if Amir went on to get the wicket of the same batsman again, you kinda missed a rare opportunity.

I've seen his wicket impact stats per 1000 similar balls and they were lower than Woakes, Anderson, and even Wahab Riaz but he isn't ordinary. Unless you expected him to run over sides every single match to which he hasn't lived up to your expectation.

 

[kingusama92]

Slips is where the slower guys stand in any team: recall Inzamam in years past.

To be fair, Inzi was a respectable slips fielder. Safe pair of hands.