Chances of Pakistan qualifying for the 2019 World Cup Semi-Final

[Usman Chadda]

They lost 2-1 . And a World Cup game is different to a bilateral.

I would back Australia to beat NZ .

Australia best ODI 11 is better than Pakistan. Deep down you know that.

West Indies have impressed me in the recent games against England. Can't say that's a given for Australia.

Let's see. Australia will be there and there-abouts in terms of semi-final spots, but they will have to play really good cricket to get there.

I doubt Warner and Smith are going to play the World Cup anyway.

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

You say solid and then mention Butt?

I had momentarily put my Pakistani selectors cap on.

 

[Hasan123]

I mean it's quite obvs their best 11 is better than ours. But they're not world beaters YET.
They have their weaknesses. But wi have performed at home i highely doubt they'll do the same away.

No team is a world beater right now lol. But a team with their talent,consistency, and experience in winning tournaments shouldn’t be disrespected.


Hetmyer,Gayle, and Lewis will enjoy those flat English pitches. Also their seam attack is very useful. Don’t underestimate West Indies.

 

[Hasan123]

Let's see. Australia will be there and there-abouts in terms of semi-final spots, but they will have to play really good cricket to get there.

I doubt Warner and Smith are going to play the World Cup anyway.

They will play at the WC. That’s why Australia are planning to reintegrate them into the team.

 

[BDfanforever]

Anything is possible in this world cup. WI destroyed England, had India in some bother, however they also got destroyed by BD. Australia who is a lower ranked team competed very well against India. India on the other hand destroyed Pak, NZ, and RSA. Pakistan on the other hand can destroy all other teams on their day.

 

[MMHS]

Didn’t notice - Australia is 5th now in ranking and they have an 11 points gap over Pakistan.

Probably, now the ranking makes better sense in terms of WC qualifications (SF). SAF are at 4th based on their past results and 5-0 against SRL, but as of now they are to likely miss out - ENG, IND, AUS, NZ is probable top 4 in that order (or IND-AUS swapping positions - doesn’t matter in terms of SF pairing). Most likely winner of IND-AUS will win the cup. Any team that should win the cup most likely will need to beat Aussies in a KO game.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

We are playing way too many games up north, which is ominous as far as our chances to qualify for the semis are concerned.

 

[unemployedgm]

On paper, the West Indies and Bangladesh are better than Pakistan. Afghanistan may not have experience but there two best players are better than anything Pakistan have.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Lets be honest here, its guaranteed with this format. Anyone who says otherwise is just pessimistic human being, a fake fan.

 

[Afhan Ali]

5-10 % at maximum

 

[Ronaldo7]

5-10 % at maximum

He's not asking about the chances of winning.

 

[Ronaldo7]

On paper, the West Indies and Bangladesh are better than Pakistan. Afghanistan may not have experience but there two best players are better than anything Pakistan have.

Bangladesh can't beat Sa in Sa. That should tell you who's better. Bangladesh are no where near pakistan in English conditions.

 

[jaf348]

Lets be honest here, its guaranteed with this format. Anyone who says otherwise is just pessimistic human being, a fake fan.

This is the worst format for a wildly inconsistent team like Pakistan that can beat England one day and lose to West Indies or Bangladesh the next day.

 

[Bilal7]

This is the worst format for a wildly inconsistent team like Pakistan that can beat England one day and lose to West Indies or Bangladesh the next day.

This Pakistan team is pretty consistent with the bat. There haven't been many low totals recently and they score 270+ more often than not. And as they showed two years ago, can get on a roll with the ball.

We are playing way too many games up north, which is ominous as far as our chances to qualify for the semis are concerned.

Why is that? Pitches up North more bowler friendly?

 

[Bilal7]

We should beat the minnows and weaker teams and beating two out of India, England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand is not out of the realms of possibility. We'll get there and then the World Cup final, InshaAllah.

 

[ARK Rafay]

This Pakistan team is pretty consistent with the bat. There haven't been many low totals recently and they score 270+ more often than not. And as they showed two years ago, can get on a roll with the ball.

That's the real problem all top teams can score 300+ easily in England. If Pakistan can't score 300+ the bowlers will have an extra pressure and will need to bring in their A game just like CT17.

 

[ARK Rafay]

India, England and New Zealand are certain to me. One spot left and it is most likely gonna be Australia or South Africa then followed by Pakistan or West Indies (Yes, West Indies. They can show up in WC19)

 

[Bilal7]

That's the real problem all top teams can score 300+ easily in England. If Pakistan can't score 300+ the bowlers will have an extra pressure and will need to bring in their A game just like CT17.

Well, it is the World Cup so our strongest unit, the pace bowlers, need to be at their best if we are to reach the semis.

 

[the Great Khan]

we'll be lucky..we will again have to rely on other results to help us..as its a tournie I expect some surprises e.g. a team expected to win not doing so and a team everyone wrote off to produce some wonders...

 

[Ronaldo7]

Well, it is the World Cup so our strongest unit, the pace bowlers, need to be at their best if we are to reach the semis.

But what if 300 is the par score?
The bowlers can't get you out of trouble every time.

 

[pakistani pride]

But what if 300 is the par score?
The bowlers can't get you out of trouble every time.

They dont need to do it every time they NEED to do it in the CRUNCH matches.

Pakistan will show up during the WC!

 

[unemployedgm]

Bangladesh can't beat Sa in Sa. That should tell you who's better. Bangladesh are no where near pakistan in English conditions.

Bangladesh have a far superior batting lineup than Pakistan. That isn't to say they will beat Pakistan. But that is to say that we are holding on to historic perspectives that have little basis in reality. Pakistan is a bad cricket team. Pakistan is not producing elite world beating cricketers. Other teams including those who we assess as minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan are producing such cricketers.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Bangladesh have a far superior batting lineup than Pakistan. That isn't to say they will beat Pakistan. But that is to say that we are holding on to historic perspectives that have little basis in reality. Pakistan is a bad cricket team. Pakistan is not producing elite world beating cricketers. Other teams including those who we assess as minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan are producing such cricketers.

Who are you kidding?
Bangladesh don't have a superior lineup. I'm not saying this because i'm biased. I'm trying not to be biased. It's a fact.
Also what world beaters are bangladesh producing? Mustifiqur's been playing for 10 years and still makes the same mistakes. We might not be world beaters but we're definitely better than Bangladesh in batting.

 

[Stewie]

We have always done well against England in England.. our bowling will be the key especially Shadab and Imam. We can also count on beating SL, Win, Afghanistan.

We need one win out of the rest I.e Australia, India, Bangladesh and NZ.

I believe we are slow starters and usually our performances improve in bigger tournaments as time passes so I am sure we have a pretty decent chance of raking in 6 wins to qualify, provided key players remain fit and injury free.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Who are these jokers saying Afghanistan and Bangladesh are better than Pakistan? Of course Pakistan will beat both with ease and they will be in the semi final easily

 

[unemployedgm]

Who are you kidding?
Bangladesh don't have a superior lineup. I'm not saying this because i'm biased. I'm trying not to be biased. It's a fact.
Also what world beaters are bangladesh producing? Mustifiqur's been playing for 10 years and still makes the same mistakes. We might not be world beaters but we're definitely better than Bangladesh in batting.

Tamim, Mushfiqur, Shakib, and Mahmudullah would walk into Pakistan's Batting Side. That doesn't take into account young players such as Soumya Sarkar, Mominul Haque, Anamul Haque, and Sabbir Rahman.

Mushfiqur averages 50 in ODI Cricket in the last 3 years.

Bangladesh aren't world beaters. But we've inexplicably fallen below their level.

 

[Stewie]

Call me biased but I don’t think under a bit of bowling friendly conditions Bangladesh will have any chance against a much superior Pak bowling attack. I am sure it will be a tough game because credit to Bangladesh they have really improved lately. I still feel we will win!

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Chances of Pakistan qualifying in a tournament in England for Semi-Finals with a full strength current team, are pretty high and almost certain.

Pakistan, India, England and Australia will be the 4 teams to qualify for SF.

 

[Hasan123]

Very slim.

 

[Hasan123]

Didn’t notice - Australia is 5th now in ranking and they have an 11 points gap over Pakistan.

Probably, now the ranking makes better sense in terms of WC qualifications (SF). SAF are at 4th based on their past results and 5-0 against SRL, but as of now they are to likely miss out - ENG, IND, AUS, NZ is probable top 4 in that order (or IND-AUS swapping positions - doesn’t matter in terms of SF pairing). Most likely winner of IND-AUS will win the cup. Any team that should win the cup most likely will need to beat Aussies in a KO game.

I think South Africa are slightly better than NZ. NZ lower order other than De Gronddhome lack power. Miller ,Morris,and JP is a strong low order.

 

[OmaIR1]

Slim to none.

 

[Mp812]

Arthur is confident of World cup chances
"We need our players to have optimum fitness levels. We saw the difference in the field between our normal players, the guys with whom we've worked for two years, and the players who have just came to our system. The gap is massive, we can't have that happen ever again."
Pakistan leave for England on April 23 and in the build up to the World Cup, Pakistan play as many as 11 matches -a T20I and five ODIs against England, three one-dayers against county sides, and two World Cup warm-ups.
"I can promise that they will be the best prepared squad that's ever left the Pakistan shore to go and represent this very passionate country in a cricket World Cup," said Arthur.
"Our side will be the best prepared team against England. Preparations don't always account for results, but it gives us a better chance to getting those results. We will leave no stone unturned in our quest for the World Cup."

 

[The Viper]

It all depends how Hasan Ali and Shaheen performs. I don't think this batting will get 300 regularly so depends on bowling.

 

[Mp812]

Players and wicb if they call it truce , the West indies batting lineup can be as good as England. Imagine Gayle and Lewis as openers and hetmuer, bravo,Russell, braitwite,sammy to follow

 

[gazza619]

90%

 

[hitthestump]

Very low. I think it will rely on the Big Three winning all their matches, the rest taking turns to beat eachother and Pak sneaking the 4th spot through NRR.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Players and wicb if they call it truce , the West indies batting lineup can be as good as England. Imagine Gayle and Lewis as openers and hetmuer, bravo,Russell, braitwite,sammy to follow

If we beat the windies i believe we will go through.
We always seem to lose against the windies.

 

[MMHS]

I think South Africa are slightly better than NZ. NZ lower order other than De Gronddhome lack power. Miller ,Morris,and JP is a strong low order.

All the major teams hardly put their best XI in ODI series, therefore it's difficult to judge how strong they are. On English condition, Kiwi's best XI can be a top side - they lost an eliminator in last CT, but should have won the game against Aussies as well. It'll be really tough battle for spot 2-5, while England should easily make the SF, but after that they might struggle in KOs. NZ-SAF are too close, may be SAF slightly ahead in direct shoot-out (that SAF-NZ game), but there are other 8 games for each teams and Kiwis might edge past them in overall table.

 

[unemployedgm]

On Paper and Based on Performance England and India are probably the two best ODI Teams. In the past two months Australia have shown signs of life with both Usman Khawaja and Peter Handscomb emerging to become key contributors. Glenn Maxwell is probably playing the best cricket of his career. They also two reliable spinners in their squad. Zampa in particular is a fearless wicket taking option. IMO Fawad Ahmed needs to be in that team as well. So I think Australia should be in the SF. That leaves the field.

New Zealand are the most likely candidate for that last position. But as we've seen with Pakistan in the past, we can always spring a surprise. South Africa IMO have too many players at the back end of their careers. I also don't trust Ottis Gibson as a coach. Bangladesh and West Indies are wild cards. Based on pure talent West Indies have the potential to get hot. Lets see.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Realistically.
Pakistan have a very bleak chances of qualifying.
But the posters that are favoring Pakistan. I can understand their inner Pakistani is being optimistic here

 

[ARK Rafay]

It all depends how Hasan Ali and Shaheen performs. I don't think this batting will get 300 regularly so depends on bowling.

We need Fakhar Zaman at top and Hafeez at the middle order to fire in order to get 300+

 

[Irfan Hussain]

They only thing I will say is that if Pakistan plays according to their abilities, be smart and tactically correct, and handle the pressure well, I can assure you, they will win the World Cup....
Secondly I believe Pakistan has a better team than it had during the 2015 WC

 

[Hasan123]

All the major teams hardly put their best XI in ODI series, therefore it's difficult to judge how strong they are. On English condition, Kiwi's best XI can be a top side - they lost an eliminator in last CT, but should have won the game against Aussies as well. It'll be really tough battle for spot 2-5, while England should easily make the SF, but after that they might struggle in KOs. NZ-SAF are too close, may be SAF slightly ahead in direct shoot-out (that SAF-NZ game), but there are other 8 games for each teams and Kiwis might edge past them in overall table.

South Africa can beat other teams as well. They beat Australia in last couple of bilaterals.

Should be a close contest as you said.

 

[MMHS]

South Africa can beat other teams as well. They beat Australia in last couple of bilaterals.

Should be a close contest as you said.

SAF might be stuck in a different problem - continuity pressure. On proper merit, I don't think Amla & Styen should start now, even Tahir is off color these days and he is likely to be less effective in UK; but these 3 are senior players, playing their last WC, there'll always be a pressure to keep them in playing XI. Tahir still might have a place in XI, because of lack of back-up, but other 2 are in severe decline at wrong age. Then, they have a quota to fill.

Not considering any other factors, this is probably my starting XI for SAF

1. Markram
2. Kock+
3. Reeza
4. Van Dussen
5. Faf
6. Miller
7. Morris
8. Pretorius/Mulder/Andile
9. Rabada
10. Tahir
11. Ngidi

- that's a very good squad actually. But, now you try to find spots for Amla, JP, Andile, Styen - strength will be compromised.

 

[Hasan123]

SAF might be stuck in a different problem - continuity pressure. On proper merit, I don't think Amla & Styen should start now, even Tahir is off color these days and he is likely to be less effective in UK; but these 3 are senior players, playing their last WC, there'll always be a pressure to keep them in playing XI. Tahir still might have a place in XI, because of lack of back-up, but other 2 are in severe decline at wrong age. Then, they have a quota to fill.

Not considering any other factors, this is probably my starting XI for SAF

1. Markram
2. Kock+
3. Reeza
4. Van Dussen
5. Faf
6. Miller
7. Morris
8. Pretorius/Mulder/Andile
9. Rabada
10. Tahir
11. Ngidi

- that's a very good squad actually. But, now you try to find spots for Amla, JP, Andile, Styen - strength will be compromised.

Yes I agree about Amla and Steyn but we know they will start. Maybe Steyn could be dropped due to quality coming through. Tahir has looked good in the IPL.


I like that 11, maybe JP instead of Reza and that 11 is fine.

How they will line up imo is ,

Amla
De Kock.
Van Der Dussen
Faf
JP
Miller
Morris
Andile
Rabada
Ngidi/Steyn
Tahir

Still a good 11.

 

[Hasan123]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] , there isn't a guarantee that Amla will go to the WC due to lack of form and also due his father not being well . Markham has also been in good form in List A competitions

Steyn will certainly go.

Also you mentioned no replacement for Tahir, Shamsi is a potential replacement but I'm sure Tahir will start.