Only person kidding is you yourself unless you can produce actual examples of people being jailed for anti-semitism while not doing something else that was illegal (for example, inciting violence).
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Only person kidding is you yourself unless you can produce actual examples of people being jailed for anti-semitism while not doing something else that was illegal (for example, inciting violence).
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You can get in trouble for denying Holocaust in Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Holocaust_denial.
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Oh bhai, owner of facebook page of Holocaust denial got jailed. Mel Gibson was the example you game that he didn't get a gig, but he got jailed too and stayed there for a while. Go google this thing and be in denial. You are going on and on just so you can justify Islamophobia. Whatever you come up with in regards to Islamophobia being Freedom of Speech I will always reject your stance on that. Deep down you kinda love it that Islamophobia is prevalent and you are just lying to yourself by just posting all the "freedom of speech" non-sense you just came up with.
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Mel Gibson got jailed for domestic violence not anti semitism. In the US; anti semitism is not a criminal act unless accompanied by physical threats
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Why is US even being used an as an example? This magazine is based in Europe and in most European countries anti-semitism and holocaust denial results in jail time. It seems fair to say the same standard should apply to this case as well
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'Nazi Grandma,' sentenced for denying Holocaust, goes to prison
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ck-who-denies-holocaust-taken-jail/589613002/
In Europe and Canada just Holocaust denial or anti-semitism is enough for a jail sentence. Your point is only valid for the US. In European countries there doesn’t need to be a threat for violence for it to be illegal.
Yes, I know. I already wrote in post #70 above "Actually anti-Semitic comments won't get you jailed or even arrested in the US, <b>but it could in Europe.</b>"
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Lol this is what he said in the first place. Don’t even know what you guys are arguing on
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My bad, I didn’t see your post on the last page.
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Its like that conversation.
- are you going to the market?
- No! I am going to the market.
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Oh, nevermind. I was going to ask you to get me some milk if you were going to the market.
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The magazine sacked a cartoonist for a Jewish cartoon.
Proves its not about freedom of speech but to use this excuse to attack certain religions. Magazine will falling apart as a business anyway.
Proves its not about freedom of speech but to use this excuse to attack certain religions. Magazine will falling apart as a business anyway.
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Can you provide a link for that please?
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They've done plenty of jewish cartoons.
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Do you have trouble reading? I wrote a man was fired , of course they have lol.
None of those showed Jews as terrorists, they wouldn't get published. There is a clear hypocritical stance from this magazine, only a fool would suggest otherwise.
Care to explain why he was fired, if freedom of speech is so holy?
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Cite a few.
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A few years ago there was mural in London which depicted Jews with long noses, star of david, wads of cash, you get the idea.
It was deemed offensive, and the painters hunted down.
In the West, causing offence is acceptable under freedom of speech - except when Jews are depicted.
It was deemed offensive, and the painters hunted down.
In the West, causing offence is acceptable under freedom of speech - except when Jews are depicted.
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No idea, maybe the editor in 2008 was a friend of Sarkozy and did a favor. It was a different editor later on.
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There are cartoons that poke fun at the long beard of religious jews, for instance.
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No I said cite a few. Link me up to these cartoons you speak of, that is, if they are still available online.
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Mabye this , maybe that.
The cartoonist also recieved death threats in France, the land of free speach.
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Pretty much sums up the freedom of speech in the western nations is a load of bull.
Not just the Jews, European nations have banned foriegn news outlets.
Holocaust denail is another crime in France, people have been jailed for it. Jailed for denying a historical event, a joke when the same nation pretends its the bastian of free speech.
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Google them. They'll be deleted if I post them here.
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You have just proved the point.
According to you these cartoons you speak of are perfectly legal under freedom of speech in the West, but when asked to cite them (post the link not the cartoons), you run scared. Why?
I bet you wouldn't hesitate to post cartoon depicting Muslims in bad light would you? No, you defend them!
Where do you lot come from???
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The worst part was the media blamed Corbyn!
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lol Poor chap has fought racism all his life.
What is worse is Israel as an entity cannot be criticised for it's foriegn policy as this will now be anti-semtic. Even worse Arabs are also semites.
Problem is too many sheep esp in Europe, they believe whatever is fed to them while watching Eastenders and going to bed , in order to work as slaves the next day.
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This is also freedom of speech?
Vile disgusting magazine spreading hate in a hate filled country.
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Wow! I didn't see this before.
Making fun of a dead child. How low can Charlie Hebdo go?
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The magazine is filth and it's employees too. Of course it doesnt mean they should be targetted but I have no sympathy for any of them, dead or alive.
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You have no sympathy that they were shot dead for a bunch of cartoons? Amazing.
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Stop misquoting him.
He simply said he doesn't care whether they are dead or alive. He didn't say he supported the terror attack.
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Thanks bro, selective reading some for obvious reasons.
It seems the defenders of freedom of speech have gone mute now. No pun.
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A French court has found guilty 14 accomplices of the attackers behind the January 2015 attacks on the French Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine and a Jewish supermarket in Paris.
Among the 14 was Hayat Boumeddiene, former partner of Amedy Coulibaly who killed a policewoman and then four people in a Jewish supermarket.
One of three suspects to be tried in absentia, Boumeddiene was found guilty of financing “terrorism” and belonging to a criminal “terrorist” network. She is thought to be alive and on the run from an international arrest warrant in Syria, where she joined ISIL (ISIS).
Coulibaly was himself an associate of the gunmen behind the deadly attack at the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo in January 2015.
The accomplices were found guilty on different charges, ranging from membership of a criminal network to complicity in the attacks. Terrorism-related charges were dropped for several of the defendants who were found guilty of lesser crimes.
Sentencing will follow shortly. Prosecutors have demanded sentences of between five years and life for the alleged accomplices.
The trial has reopened one of modern France’s darkest episodes, with the attacks marking the onset of a wave of violence that has killed scores more since.
The three days of attacks in Paris began on January 7, 2015, with the killing of 12 people at the offices of Charlie Hebdo, which had published derogatory cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.
The assault at the weekly satirical magazine was followed by the shooting of a French policewoman on January 8, and an attack on the Hyper Cacher kosher supermarket, in the south of Paris, a day later.
The three attackers had links with al-Qaeda and ISIL and were shot dead by police in separate standoffs.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...accomplices-to-charlie-hebdo-attackers-guilty
Among the 14 was Hayat Boumeddiene, former partner of Amedy Coulibaly who killed a policewoman and then four people in a Jewish supermarket.
One of three suspects to be tried in absentia, Boumeddiene was found guilty of financing “terrorism” and belonging to a criminal “terrorist” network. She is thought to be alive and on the run from an international arrest warrant in Syria, where she joined ISIL (ISIS).
Coulibaly was himself an associate of the gunmen behind the deadly attack at the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo in January 2015.
The accomplices were found guilty on different charges, ranging from membership of a criminal network to complicity in the attacks. Terrorism-related charges were dropped for several of the defendants who were found guilty of lesser crimes.
Sentencing will follow shortly. Prosecutors have demanded sentences of between five years and life for the alleged accomplices.
The trial has reopened one of modern France’s darkest episodes, with the attacks marking the onset of a wave of violence that has killed scores more since.
The three days of attacks in Paris began on January 7, 2015, with the killing of 12 people at the offices of Charlie Hebdo, which had published derogatory cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.
The assault at the weekly satirical magazine was followed by the shooting of a French policewoman on January 8, and an attack on the Hyper Cacher kosher supermarket, in the south of Paris, a day later.
The three attackers had links with al-Qaeda and ISIL and were shot dead by police in separate standoffs.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...accomplices-to-charlie-hebdo-attackers-guilty
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This issue doesnt seem to go away - hope this is the end of it.
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ROME: Italy’s anti-terrorism police and Europol on Tuesday arrested Pakistanis suspected of links to the man who attacked France’s Charlie Hebdo magazine in 2020.
The sting led to “arrests in Italy and abroad of ******tani citizens with direct ties” to Zaheer Hassan Mahmood, a Pakistani man accused of attacking two people with a meat cleaver weeks after the magazine republished controversial cartoons of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him), Italian police said.
It did not say how many were arrested.
Europol’s European Counter Terrorism Centre coordinated the operation along with anti-terrorism police in France and Spain, according to police in Genoa in north-western Italy, where a judge signed 14 arrest warrants concerning offences related to “international terrorism”.
Genoa’s Il Secolo XIX daily said eight of the arrest warrants had been carried out in Italy against people belonging to “a network of Islamic extremists... who were plotting attacks”.
The probe began in Genoa because one of the suspects lives in the area, but months of “wiretaps, stakeouts, tailing suspects and comparing numerous data with police in other countries” revealed other members of the gang in other parts of Italy, France and Spain, it said.
The investigation continues into others with alleged ties to those targeted in Tuesday’s sting, it added.
Mahmood injured two people during the 2020 attack, which came five years after 12 members of staff at the satirical weekly were gunned down for publishing the cartoons.
Published in Dawn, June 8th, 2022
The sting led to “arrests in Italy and abroad of ******tani citizens with direct ties” to Zaheer Hassan Mahmood, a Pakistani man accused of attacking two people with a meat cleaver weeks after the magazine republished controversial cartoons of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him), Italian police said.
It did not say how many were arrested.
Europol’s European Counter Terrorism Centre coordinated the operation along with anti-terrorism police in France and Spain, according to police in Genoa in north-western Italy, where a judge signed 14 arrest warrants concerning offences related to “international terrorism”.
Genoa’s Il Secolo XIX daily said eight of the arrest warrants had been carried out in Italy against people belonging to “a network of Islamic extremists... who were plotting attacks”.
The probe began in Genoa because one of the suspects lives in the area, but months of “wiretaps, stakeouts, tailing suspects and comparing numerous data with police in other countries” revealed other members of the gang in other parts of Italy, France and Spain, it said.
The investigation continues into others with alleged ties to those targeted in Tuesday’s sting, it added.
Mahmood injured two people during the 2020 attack, which came five years after 12 members of staff at the satirical weekly were gunned down for publishing the cartoons.
Published in Dawn, June 8th, 2022
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