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Clash of powerhouses: Azam Khan and Shivam Dube - who will achieve more success?

If Azam can lose weight, I think he can be a great asset. He hits very well.

Dube improved. He is now a handy T20 player. Can bat and bowl.
 
I don’t like Dube ji. He looks like a deer in headlights. I only liked him when he plays for CSK. I hope they find someone else in his place.
 
Azam Khan is a better hitter. Plus his keeping is world class, far better that Dube's bowling.

Guessing Azam will be brought back to lead the team.
:inti
 
Azam Khan? Until and unless he loses a lot of weight, I’d hope never. And he won’t lose weight, that much is clear.

In fact - with Azam my opinion is that his opportunity for international sport is a goner.

More important - much more important - is his lifestyle, and the for sure impending health crisis coming his way and which he needs to tackle.
 
Whos makes such threads?
At time this was started just look at the batting average of Dube, in FC it was well over 50. Look at the numbers for Azam.

Azam is pathetic and should never play for Pak again.
 
Some of the threads on PP are ludicrous, but that is sometime fans get too excited.
 
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Unbiased-Fan said:
Azam Khan surely has talent. But talent without hardwork and fitness is nothing 👍🏻
A 90 kg Azam will get more time and flexibility to play shots, he is just 40 kg overweight.
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As they say: hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard.

Azam should have never been allowed to join a professional cricket team. Ever.
 
Advaith said:
I don't know about Azam khan but selectors need to see a psychiatrist for selecting dube ahead of jaiswal..He overachieved in this world cup and I don't expect much from him in a tricky situation..
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Local.Dada said:
Dube wins on the principle of atleast looking like an athlete. Dont rate both.
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dubeTheGoat said:
On an all you can eat buffet, Azam definitely defeats Dube. On a cricket match both are great match winners... for opposition
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Nikhil_cric said:
Agreed. This is not even a fair comparison to Dube. Azam only lacks a bit in terms of fitness.

But he's miles more talented than Dube. Hes the fastest Pakistani T20 batter to 200 sixes.

His talent is severely underrated even by PAL fans.
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Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Easy win for Azam Khan, I dont see Dube getting more chances in Indian setup.
Jaiswal, gill, Abhishek, Rinku, Sanju Samson, plenty of people in the pipeline.
Azam Khan will double the career than Dube.
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Bhaijaan said:
Azam Khan has dominated the toughest league in the world with the highest bowling talent. So it has to be him. Dube was selected under Prime Minister’s Make a Wish foundation to let mediocre cricketers achieve their dream of playing the World Cup. Modi Hae to Mumkin Hae.
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So many posters wrong about dube. Dube has more impactful innings in multiple icc tournaments than probably anyone from Pak
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Dube for all his limited nature of stroke play , produced one of the most consequential partnership with Kohli when Axar was unfortunately run out. IN that partnership he dominated Kohli. Something Azam can never say all his life.
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giri26 said:
Dube gets lots of hate from Indian fans for reasons beyond his actual performances. Agreed that he isn't as talented as the others he beat to make the WC Squad but he isn't as bad as the Indian fans make him out to be. The guy averages 52 in FC in 21 games and his T20/List A records aren't that bad either. Azam Khan for all the sixes he hits in different leagues isn't even close to Dube. Dube might not be talented as per Indian standards but this thread is a joke.
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Red-Indian said:
Agreed. It's very strange how much hate folks have for Dube. This is a guy who came into the World Cup with strike rates of 156.21, 158.33 and 162.29 in his last 3 IPL seasons with a lot of his batting on the kind of slow, low, Chennai pitch that we were likely to see in the Caribbean.

He fit exactly the slot the team needed - a left-handed spin hitter. I saw in an article (probably Cricinfo) that he was hitting a six every 7 balls or so in the last 3 years. Yes he can be neutralised to an extent by using the quicks but that's useful to the Indian team's plan too. He's surrounded by big hitters like Pant, Surya and Pandya who love the ball coming on to them. All he had to do was hold his end up and give them the strike. He played his role, if not to perfection, then very well indeed.

It's another matter that with Axar's emergence as a left-handed hitter, the need for Dube drops and we can afford a purer batter like say Rinku. In the world cup though, you can't really fault his playing the role he was asked to fill. And I say this despite being someone who wanted him dropped to create room for Jaiswal.
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Reasonable posters always good at recognizing talent
 
Bhaijaan said:
Azam Khan has dominated the toughest league in the world with the highest bowling talent. So it has to be him. Dube was selected under Prime Minister’s Make a Wish foundation to let mediocre cricketers achieve their dream of playing the World Cup. Modi Hae to Mumkin Hae.
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sweep_shot said:
If Azam can lose weight, I think he can be a great asset. He hits very well.

Dube improved. He is now a handy T20 player. Can bat and bowl.
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Bhaijaan said:
Dube’s been a star for neighbours.

Azam Khan has only been a star customer for his local Egg roll kiosk owner
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Clowns and trolls remain same 😂
 
this thread was started because azam replaced Rizwan ????? LOL

what a choke slam for them

DUBE is on moon while Azam is still trying to get himself out of dirt
 
Nikhil_cric said:
This ain't a serious thread
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This is a serious thread. You have to look at how both players have been backed by their respective teams. And bro, I am really disappointed that you are being dismissive of this thread. I remember you used to mention the statistics of Azam Khan’s number of sixes.

The problem here is that the Pakistan Cricket Board tend to listen to trolls, whereas the Indian board ignores them. Shivam Dube himself was trolled for his lack of foot movement and most fans used to question his selection. However, the selectors and team management backed him. Azam Khan, on the other hand, did not receive the same level of backing.


Azam Khan is still only 27. What had Shivam Dube achieved at that age?
 
RyanRyan10 said:
This is a serious thread. You have to look at how both players have been backed by their respective teams. And bro, I am really disappointed that you are being dismissive of this thread. I remember you used to mention the statistics of Azam Khan’s number of sixes.

The problem here is that the Pakistan Cricket Board tend to listen to trolls, whereas the Indian board ignores them. Shivam Dube himself was trolled for his lack of foot movement and most fans used to question his selection. However, the selectors and team management backed him. Azam Khan, on the other hand, did not receive the same level of backing.


Azam Khan is still only 27. What had Shivam Dube achieved at that age?
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Welcome back champ
 
RyanRyan10 said:
This is a serious thread. You have to look at how both players have been backed by their respective teams. And bro, I am really disappointed that you are being dismissive of this thread. I remember you used to mention the statistics of Azam Khan’s number of sixes.

The problem here is that the Pakistan Cricket Board tend to listen to trolls, whereas the Indian board ignores them. Shivam Dube himself was trolled for his lack of foot movement and most fans used to question his selection. However, the selectors and team management backed him. Azam Khan, on the other hand, did not receive the same level of backing.


Azam Khan is still only 27. What had Shivam Dube achieved at that age?
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R u serious?
Azam Khan is the most pathetic player ever to play for Pak, and then you have to be really bad!
 
Azam who?? Not in the same category as Dube! He can’t tie the laces of Dube (so to speak) 😆
 
If I am honest, comparing an Indian player and a Pakistani player never helps. The players are of different nations and they have different challenges. Definitely I could see the stats of both the players as on today. All I will say for any player is may the player do well for his nation.
 
SHIVAM DUBE TOOK A 5AM TRAIN FROM AHMEDABAD TO MUMBAI:

Dube said, “I wore a cap, mask and a full sleeve jersey to cover myself so nobody could recognise me”.

Dube boarded the 3rd AC train and moved at the upper berth.

Ticket checker came and asked, “ye Shivam Dube Kon hain? Wo cricketer?”.

Dube’s wife replied, “nahi nahi, wo yaha kyon aayega”.

TC moved on and Dube reached Borivali.




:kp
 
RyanRyan10 said:

Azam Khan Career Stats:​

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Shivam Dube Career Stats:​

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The world of cricket is about to witness a thrilling showdown between two power-hitting giants - Azam Khan and Shivam Dube. Both players have been making waves in the cricketing circuit with their impressive performances, leaving fans and critics alike wondering who will achieve more success in the long run.

Azam Khan, the Pakistani batter, has been terrorizing bowlers with his aggressive style and incredible strokeplay. His ability to clear the boundary with ease has earned him a reputation as one of the most feared hitters in the game.

On the other hand, Shivam Dube, the Indian all-rounder, has been impressing fans with his sheer power and versatility. His ability to hit sixes at will and his useful bowling skills make him a valuable asset to any team.

Between these two cricketers who are renowned for their hitting in T20 leagues, which one do you think will have more success in T20 internationals?
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Truly an incredible thread from arguably the best poster on this forum. Time to revisit this comparison?
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Exposing how you are taking potshots at Pak players. Triggered by an unemployed IT cell agent? Don't flatter yourself brah.
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I don't even comment on politics here. That's something you do from different accounts. And pretend like you can't pronounce certain terms lmao. Look, I know everything about you 🙃
 
RyanRyan10 said:
I don't even comment on politics here. That's something you do from different accounts. And pretend like you can't pronounce certain terms lmao. Look, I know everything about you 🙃
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You don't even know your own father brah haha. Oh look I know that about you jeet. Now make a tandoor with your lover @Varun ;)
 
Azam Khan has the bloodline, Dube doesn’t.

ACKNOWLEDGE him ☝️
 
Until Azam Khan takes his sport seriously which means loses weight, there’s no comparison.
 
Hikaru said:
Pakistanis 3 decades back used to be a different breed unlike the current chomus. I honestly don't know what went wrong.
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I think it's a direct correlation between how the county is doing with its players. Pakistan were doing great in 60s and 70s which lead to a peak in everything in the 80s, culminating in that lasting till mid 90s

But Zia happened in late 70s and changed the trajectory of the country, made it more hard liner and religious. He was there till almost 1990. By the late 90s pakistan was already on the path which lead to today
 
Sachin fan said:
I think it's a direct correlation between how the county is doing with its players. Pakistan were doing great in 60s and 70s which lead to a peak in everything in the 80s, culminating in that lasting till mid 90s

But Zia happened in late 70s and changed the trajectory of the country, made it more hard liner and religious. He was there till almost 1990. By the late 90s pakistan was already on the path which lead to today
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True, during my college days, it was very common for me to find myself the alpha in a room full of Pakistanis. At times I wondered, are they really Pakistanis or Bangladeshis in disguise?

I would have never been able to dominate the Pakistanis of 80s so easily, so you are right, I guess a country's trajectory really does show in its generations.
 
Hikaru said:
True, during my college days, it was very common for me to find myself the alpha in a room full of Pakistanis. At times I wondered, are they really Pakistanis or Bangladeshis in disguise?

I would have never been able to dominate the Pakistanis of 80s so easily, so you are right, I guess a country's trajectory really does show in its generations.
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Why did they let a college kid into a daycare room? Were you volunteering to watch the kids and perform diaper duty while their well off parents were at work?

Interesting internship you chose brother, very noble. Story-time must have been enjoyable for the kiddos as well.
 
Suleiman said:
Why did they let a college kid into a daycare room? Were you volunteering to watch the kids and perform diaper duty while their well off parents were at work?

Interesting internship you chose brother, very noble. Story-time must have been enjoyable for the kiddos as well.
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Hehe, cute brother. I always find it amusing when pookies take liberty with me from behind the keyboard. :bbz
 
Shivam Dube(6' 4" height). The ideal profile of players to compare with him who play similar roles are Tim David (6' 4" height), Romario Shepherd(6' 3" height), Kieron Pollard(6' 5" height), Dre Russ(6' 1" height), Jamie Overton(6' 5" height), Will Jacks(6' 1" height) etc.,

Shivam Dube is slightly better than all of them with bat because he reads spin well to bash them in middle overs. He has that extra utility to target spinners. His six off Abrar was what turned the Asia cup finals if you remember. He developed his game vs pace in last few years that he can finish in death overs vs pace also now.

All T20I sixes of Dube compilation here


https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaCricket/comments/1ruwes2/all_63_sixes_hit_by_shivam_dube_in_t20is
 
Kushdil Shah, Iftikhar Ahmed are the closest players Paksitan produced similar to him but their skills never developed to the next level.
 
Thing is he can bat from middle to the lower order. Anywhere... Can hit sixes with ease against both Pacers and spinners.... A good utility to have.
 
Who would have thought Dube would have the career highlights and numbers he does with his one super niche specialized spin hitting skill and bog average bowling?

Across 2 world T20 finals he has scored 53 runs in 4.3 overs and that too coming in end stage of inns

Some players just have weird trysts with destiny
 
Kianig89 said:
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He is unfit as a cricketer ,
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Not just as a cricketer, as a human being. A human being should not be looking like this in any universe unless if that human being has medical condition. We all know this guy got it from eating, which he mentioned multiple times, so did his dad. Bro will give teletubbies a run for their money.
 
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