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India are a good T20 side - the batting has improved- and bowling has done well with 130kph pace.

Let's put it this way. India on an average day can win a T20 on an average day.

The upwards trend in professionalism, excellence and quality and most importantly the integrity and honesty of these Indian Cricketers

Go well in the rest of the ICC Tournaments to come in future. Cheers.

This too shall pass.
 
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Can we rename IPL to ICC T20 because this way we can see Dhoni’s aggressive captain skills.

I think India should seriously ask to replace T20 with IPL plus point they don’t have to face 150KPH Pakistani bowlers.

Make this POTW
 
Yeah guys hard luck
maybe kohli needs to call more wides and no balls next tourny
 
Major said:
India are a good T20 side - the batting has improved- and bowling has done well with 130kph pace.

Let's put it this way. India on an average day can win a T20 on an average day.

The upwards trend in professionalism, excellence and quality and most importantly the integrity and honesty of these Indian Cricketers

Go well in the rest of the ICC Tournaments to come in future. Cheers.
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You should have ended this with "this too shall pass".
 
Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul need to be given the axe. Purely playing on reputation at this point.
 
This is a shocking thread for those indian fans who were celebrating Pakistan's early exit from the World Cup. See how the tables turn. This is why fans should stay grounded otherwise they will get a omlette on their faces. :inti
 
India definitely were the team to beat but india misswd bumrah a lot. India was opening with bhuv and arsh who are good swing ,england play such swing and pace in counties for fun.

Secondly indian openers were a big failure and they didnt even try to replace KL rahul with any other after his continued failures. Commiserations to indian fans ,a very hard loss to digest.
 
Hard luck just came up against a monster performance from Butler and Hales.

Feel bad for Rohit. A champion player just let down by his bowlers today.
 
ExpressPacer said:
Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul need to be given the axe. Purely playing on reputation at this point.
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Kohli too. Except for Pakistan game, he has been dire, notwithstanding his exploits against minnows.
 
After watching this ,confirms India is a poor T20 side . They were lucky against Pakistan , a fluky win .

Good riddance. They can go start training for the IPL . An Indian will win that for sure ! :))
 
Koi baat nhin, you guys showed a ton of GRACE in the semi, i wish we could display such GRACEFULL outings but hum se nhin ho paye ga... this is your craft alone... 👍
 
I am very happy with the trashing and humiliation. Hopefully this will usher in the changes for a new beginning.

Its time to look beyond the likes of KL, Bhuvi, Ashwin, Axar, Pant and maybe even Rohit. Fine with Kohli for the time being as 1 senior player is needed.

Time to blood in Prithvi, Shubman, Ishan, Venkatesh Iyer (performed extremely well in SMAT with both bat and ball), Sanju. Ravi bishnoi and Jadduneeds can be the leg spinner. Umran, Mohsin, Siraj Arshdeep and Bumrah when fit can be our fast bowling options.

My best XI for next WC

Prithvi/Shubman
Ishan (wk)
Kohli/Sanju
SKY
Hardik (c)
Venkatesh Iyer
Jadeja
Bishnoi
Umran
Mohsin Khan
Bumrah/Arshdeep

Shreyas. Siraj as back up.

I wish Pakistan all the best and hope they lift the trophy for their sheer grit and determination. This ENg team is scary but you ahve to beat the best to be the best and I am sure Pak bowlers will be able to hold them in a leash.
 
Thank you guys... India has always been a below par bowling side ( particularly pace bowling) for a top team .. one sided matches like these ( remember one against Pakistan last year as well) are the continuing proof of that .. until that is sorted nothing will change ..
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
This is a shocking thread for those indian fans who were celebrating Pakistan's early exit from the World Cup. See how the tables turn. This is why fans should stay grounded otherwise they will get a omlette on their faces. :inti
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Indian fans online are just so pathetic and insecure. I don't even feel bad India lost, the clowns deserve to be mocked

Not talking about btw, the ones on Pakpassion are pretty reasonable
 
This defeat could be a blessing in disguise…bhuvi, Karthik, Sharma, Rahul will be removed from the team and replaced by youngsters who can contribute more to the team.
 
Guys book your flight asap before the ticket prices jack up. Might get a black friday deal if you book now. :sarf2
 
YousafTheBeast said:
This defeat could be a blessing in disguise…bhuvi, Karthik, Sharma, Rahul will be removed from the team and replaced by youngsters who can contribute more to the team.
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Hope barring Rohit the other 3 along with Ashwin are dropped from ODI as well. (Anyways DK has played his last international in any format now). Rohit can continue in ODIs until next world cup
 
India's batting is still better than Pakistan's batting. Pakistan doesn't have one international quality LOI batsman in the mould of SKY, Hales, Pandya, Miller, Brook etc. What Harris is made of is yet to be seen. The likes of Shadab and Nawaz are no comparison to real all rounders. Pakistan has been winning purely with their bowling. You have 4 bowlers who can click 145 in the team and 2 sitting out. This is serious depth. Really impressed by Naseem Shah who has been quietly doing a brilliant job without much fuss.
 
Duckworth Lewis said:
India's batting is still better than Pakistan's batting. Pakistan doesn't have one international quality LOI batsman in the mould of SKY, Hales, Pandya, Miller, Brook etc. What Harris is made of is yet to be seen. The likes of Shadab and Nawaz are no comparison to real all rounders. Pakistan has been winning purely with their bowling. You have 4 bowlers who can click 145 in the team and 2 sitting out. This is serious depth. Really impressed by Naseem Shah who has been quietly doing a brilliant job without much fuss.
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Ok than how is it possible a team with weak batting is in final and the team with better batting is out?

Why is it that panda who is hyped from ipl is considered a good all-rounder while same shadab from psl is not.
 
Its so funny to watch India go before Pakistan as a couple of weeks back my FB was flooded with memes of Pakistan qualifying for Karachi Airport etc etc.
I think India's mindset is not right. Rohit in the PC said knockouts dont matter much in context of a player's whole career. I mean its like accepting defeat before walking on to the field. India lacks a captain who is hungry to win knockouts at any cost. They need a captain who does'nt treat finals like " any other match"
 
Rohit's days as an international cricketer should have been over by now considering how poor he is against any attack which is remotely threatening. And then the way he conveniently misses out playing overseas tests at drop of hat should have been a give away.

Instead what did we do? Made him captain in all formats!
 
Thank you! We are a good T20 team but far from a deserving finalist even if we had managed to qualify to the finals.

I remember we always criticised our bowling attack at each point before the tournament and it did got exposed ultimately. One of the biggest learning for us is that to excel in this format, you need to master two things :-

1. Clutch, high pressure players because the margins are always small in T20s.

2. Quality bowlers in both pace and spin department.

The very fact that Ashwin was playing ahead of Chahal only because Ashwin can bat and both are average spinners tells us all we have to know about our bowling. Bhuvi has great stats in T20s but he has never really performed in big games and Shami was basically a forced decision.

Arshdeep was the only saving grace for us with the bowl.

With bat, we need to start looking for clutch players and get rid of the likes of KL Rahul and Rohit Sharma ( another player who never really dominated any T20 World tournament inspite of being an opener).
 
Commiserations Indian fans.

May this day be the start of a new era for India.

In my opinion, the first person to get the axe is Dravid. From all formats.
 
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The result hurts but good to see the comments from Pak fans. Much more objective than some of the Indian fans who are still having compression issues. They still believe IPL is genuine cricket without realising it's scripted like a reality show. Or probably they believe reality shows are real !!!
 
Major said:
India are a good T20 side - the batting has improved- and bowling has done well with 130kph pace.

Let's put it this way. India on an average day can win a T20 on an average day.

The upwards trend in professionalism, excellence and quality and most importantly the integrity and honesty of these Indian Cricketers

Go well in the rest of the ICC Tournaments to come in future. Cheers.

This too shall pass.
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It's hard to know if this post was done with sarcasm or with sincerity given your posting style. :))
 
I wanted to see a Pak v India final as that kind of spectacle is exactly the beauty of sport. So its a shame India didn't turn up today.

Safe flight home to India though - I am guessing they will be stopping at Dubai airport which has decent facilities for stop overs. I was there for 7 hours once - there is a nice restaurant with views of the runway but I cannot remember its name.
 
I really think India need to revamp their t20 side, get younger batters in up top , out of the veterans only kohli deserves a starting spot. The overdependence on SKY will cause him to be under pressure as well anytime he loses any form.

With respect to bowling, they seem to have decent core but they need to get someone like umran in the line up and play him ....point of difference matters in this format. and umran provides that.
 
Pakistan is already in the final. England thrashed India.

Why are Pakistani fans doing bhangra? Pakistanis are more elated than Indians.

It appears that they were scared of facing India in the final and now feel that Pakistan’s chances of an upset victory in the final have increased.
 
Rohit Sharma being consoled at the end.

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Mamoon said:
Pakistan is already in the final. England thrashed India.

Why are Pakistani fans doing bhangra? Pakistanis are more elated than Indians.

It appears that they were scared of facing India in the final and now feel that Pakistan’s chances of an upset victory in the final have increased.
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This is literally a commiserations thread where do you see Pakistanis doing bhangra?
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan is already in the final. England thrashed India.

Why are Pakistani fans doing bhangra? Pakistanis are more elated than Indians.

It appears that they were scared of facing India in the final and now feel that Pakistan’s chances of an upset victory in the final have increased.
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What does this thread have to do with pakistan or its team?
 
This was an expected result. England is far superior to India in batting. Bowling is about equal without Mark Wood.

This is England’s cup to lose. The best team in LOI for a while now.
 
Also, Indian batting is overhyped. KL Rahul’s confidence is shot. Rohit must retire from T20’s. Time to blood in aggressive youngsters into the batting lineup. India should be prepared to lose some games before they get a good combination going.

Regarding bowling, India must concentrate on a good wrist spinner without weakening the batting. You cannot have bowlers who cannot bat like Chahal. Give more opportunities to 140k+ bowlers . Enough of Harshal Patel type bowlers.
 
My commiserations will only extend to the handful of down to earth Indian supporters on PP.

Otherwise, all you have to do is scour social media posts from Indian fans on the morning of the SA vs. NL match to see how over a Billion Indians were relishing in Pakistan's early elimination. Even Indian companies got in on the act, as did select PP users (you know who you are).

To these Indian fans and companies, I have a simple message, you deserve this humiliation, and it is never over until the fat lady sings.
 
Technics 1210 said:
My commiserations will only extend to the handful of down to earth Indian supporters on PP.

Otherwise, all you have to do is scour social media posts from Indian fans on the morning of the SA vs. NL match to see how over a Billion Indians were relishing in Pakistan's early elimination. Even Indian companies got in on the act, as did select PP users (you know who you are).

To these Indian fans and companies, I have a simple message, you deserve this humiliation, and it is never over until the fat lady sings.
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Absolutely agreed.. They haven't learned the lesson to be humble... I thought CT17 taught that to many Ind ex players, experts and fans... but NO... they will be reminded this every tournament I guess...
 
MenInG said:
Rohit Sharma being consoled at the end.

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lol, what a loser! One of the main reasons why we lost! He doesn't need to be consoled!
 
Thanks and best of luck to Pakistan and English fans , well deserved tournament finalists, think I need a break from supporting my own team untill this management changes.
 
Thank you. Good luck to your team for the final. I think you have the bowling to keep England to a par score that Riz-Bar will chase down in their sleep or defend a competitive total.
 
Major said:
India are a good T20 side - the batting has improved- and bowling has done well with 130kph pace.

Let's put it this way. India on an average day can win a T20 on an average day.

The upwards trend in professionalism, excellence and quality and most importantly the integrity and honesty of these Indian Cricketers

Go well in the rest of the ICC Tournaments to come in future. Cheers.

This too shall pass.
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Good luck for the finals. If India is out I will always support Pakistan. I knew from the beginning we are not contenders.

I hope that like England, maybe this is the breaking point and we reform our cricket so we can win next time.
 
These are such condescending threats. What is the point of these threads. They lost, it happens, its part of the game, it will be forgotten next week.
 
Technics 1210 said:
My commiserations will only extend to the handful of down to earth Indian supporters on PP.

Otherwise, all you have to do is scour social media posts from Indian fans on the morning of the SA vs. NL match to see how over a Billion Indians were relishing in Pakistan's early elimination. Even Indian companies got in on the act, as did select PP users (you know who you are).

To these Indian fans and companies, I have a simple message, you deserve this humiliation, and it is never over until the fat lady sings.
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100 times this. indian social media presence is caught between the contradiction of absolutely revelling in Pakistani failures whilst simultaneously claiming they dont care how pak team does.

I've met some decent indian cricket fans, mostly irl, vast majority of online indian fans are insufferable. dont see what these kinda threads are for, doesn't really add anything to the cricket discussion anyway.
 
I'm having a lot of fun today, who wouldn't lol.

Indian PP doston, it's nothing personal, you still have a great side and missed Bumrah. I'm sure you'll be back fighting for the next WC.
 
T20 is a great format. Even minnow sides who lose Test series at home compete well and go deep in these tournaments.

Teams like India and Australia need to buy into the idea that T20 requires the best players for this particular format and not rely on those who have done well in other formats.

Thank you PP brothers. England are favourites but with the fastest pace attack and 92 vibes coming together PAK can certainly upset England and won the whole thing.

All the best, guys:)
 
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Bewal Express said:
These are such condescending threats. What is the point of these threads. They lost, it happens, its part of the game, it will be forgotten next week.
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Possibly but knockout matches are never forgotten. Can still remember our losses from 99 to 2021.
 
ElRaja said:
100 times this. indian social media presence is caught between the contradiction of absolutely revelling in Pakistani failures whilst simultaneously claiming they dont care how pak team does.

I've met some decent indian cricket fans, mostly irl, vast majority of online indian fans are insufferable. dont see what these kinda threads are for, doesn't really add anything to the cricket discussion anyway.
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Yes they'll never learn humility and decency. Especially the BJP brigade.
 
It's not the defeat itself but the manner of the defeat itself that is going to hurt India and will remain permanently etched in their memories.

Ala, Pakistan meekly losing to Australia in the final of 1999 World Cup Final.
 
To me one of the main issue is India was already acting like they have won the WorldCom and beat Pakistan. Every tournament I believe the pundits of India create so much hype for the team that they are always over confident in every tournament.
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan is already in the final. England thrashed India.

Why are Pakistani fans doing bhangra? Pakistanis are more elated than Indians.

It appears that they were scared of facing India in the final and now feel that Pakistan’s chances of an upset victory in the final have increased.
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Yes, very scared cause last time both teams actually played a final India trashed Pak. Ohh wait...
 
Nikhil_cric said:
T20 is a great format. Even minnow sides who lose Test series at home compete well and go deep in these tournaments.

Teams like India and Australia need to buy into the idea that T20 requires the best players for this particular format and not rely on those who have done well in other formats.

Thank you PP brothers. England are favourites but with the fastest pace attack and 92 vibes coming together PAK can certainly upset England and won the whole thing.

All the best, guys:)
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T20 format is here to stay and is taking the game forward.

We might well be witnessing the last 50 over World Cup in India next year.
 
This is not hindsight, I remember saying after the India vs Pakistan match that India looked more beatable than at any time in the last several years. It took an ATG T20 innings from Kohli to get over the line.

It was a role reversal as normally India look a better collective unit, while Pakistan are often driven by superstar individual performances.

The loss of Bumrah robbed them of the pace needed on Australian surfaces, and there seemed too much reliance on fingerspin when quality wristspin is vital in Australia. The fielding looked sluggish too.

Now India go into a home World Cup next year with a decade long winless spell in ICC tournaments so the pressure will be significant - and it remains to be seen whether the existing management will stay put.
 
I do feel for Indian fans knowing how much they are invested in their cricket.

Anyone who's seen my posts would know I have never been an anti-India poster. I believe the social media trolls of fb and twitter don't constitute even half of their fans.

It's still a very good team. The biggest problem in my opinion with the team is the bridge between the middle order and lower order. The likes of Bhuv, Ashwin, Axar and Harshal not good enough to add spine to either t20i or ODI team in terms of batting and the tail starts right after no.6. Once India finds players to do that job without weakening their bowling attack, they will become a lot better. Pak team had the same problem back around 2015 wc, with no proper allrounders and bowlers who couldn't bat. Our tail would start at no.7 and our top order wasn't even that good either.

I do hope you your selectors get rid of Bhuvi and Ashwin in LOIs as Bhuvi is well past it and Ashwin is very toothless in this format.
 
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T20 is a great format. Even minnow sides who lose Test series at home compete well and go deep in these tournaments.

Teams like India and Australia need to buy into the idea that T20 requires the best players for this particular format and not rely on those who have done well in other formats.

Thank you PP brothers. England are favourites but with the fastest pace attack and 92 vibes coming together PAK can certainly upset England and won the whole thing.

All the best, guys:)
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T20 is a very important format indeed. Reason why Rohit Sharma was crying after the game today
 
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Major said:
India are a good T20 side - the batting has improved- and bowling has done well with 130kph pace.

Let's put it this way. India on an average day can win a T20 on an average day.

The upwards trend in professionalism, excellence and quality and most importantly the integrity and honesty of these Indian Cricketers

Go well in the rest of the ICC Tournaments to come in future. Cheers.

This too shall pass.
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I don't think Indian team was fully ready to even play this game - both physically and mentally.

Look at Rohit's pre-match press conference. Totally hopeless and low on confidence with a subdued body language.

And the way they batted, it doesn't look like they wanted to score 200

You don't win games like that if you don't have full passion supported by controlled aggression.

Strange and very, very timid approach by the entire Indian team, except of Hardik Pandya I guess.
 
India never really looked at their best in this tournament.

Even the matches they won, there were issues.

Look at the Pakistan match for example, they scraped home.

Some soul-searching needed.
 
To all Indian buddies here. It's OK, happens to best too.

Hota hai, chalta hai, duniya hai.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
T20 is a great format. Even minnow sides who lose Test series at home compete well and go deep in these tournaments.

Teams like India and Australia need to buy into the idea that T20 requires the best players for this particular format and not rely on those who have done well in other formats.

Thank you PP brothers. England are favourites but with the fastest pace attack and 92 vibes coming together PAK can certainly upset England and won the whole thing.

All the best, guys:)
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Its not just India that fall for records of players from other formats. Kane Williamson singlehandedly lost the match for NZ against Pak with an atrocious knock in semis.

India still thinks that a player who has been scoring at 100 S/R in ODI's means he is a great T20 player (**cough Rohit cough**).

Underperforming players are getting real long rope. Players like KL have been struggling for a while now. His lack of productivity destroyed India's chances in this T20 WC. Rohit is too conservative in his approach. He is stuck in ODI mode and strives to preserve his wicket. SKY is good. He failed today. Pant has been exposed several times in T20 format. Even in IPL, he struggled to score any meaningful runs.

Time to get the likes of Prithvi Shaw, Abhishek Sharma, Rajat Patidar etc a chance to shine.
 
Saj said:
India never really looked at their best in this tournament.

Even the matches they won, there were issues.

Look at the Pakistan match for example, they scraped home.

Some soul-searching needed.
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The 2007 that won had new players, the established stars didn't play. This team looks tired and the bowling is too reliant on conditions without Bumrah. Its still a good team but it has no aura
 
Idk it might be just me, but ever since we smashed India by 10 wickets in the last T20 WC, I'm not feeling the same level of aura/pressure/anxiety before facing India. Even before the group stage match I had a very different feeling than what I normally had when facing India in the 2000s/2010s, most people who I spoke to were confident that we will beat India and it almost came to happen too if it weren't for an ATG innings from Kohli and some external help.

I was actually looking forward to a final with them to repay for the group match.

It might be that Kohli's form has declined as the years have gone on and the batsmen following after him are mostly just hype. KL Rahul, SKY etc etc they are very overhyped because of their IPL exploits. Sharma is a poodle infront our bowling lineup.
 
As per news media report:

MELBOURNE: Dejected Indian fans, who brought tickets of the ICC T20 Men’s World Cup final, in advance are now selling them at cheaper rates after the team’s humiliating ouster from the mega event.

Indian fans who brought tickets to finals for $295 are now selling them at $150 after Friday’s upset defeat at the hands of England in the second semi-final of the event.
 
KL rahul and rohit lack big match temperament. The manner in which they got out in 2019 semis, 2022 t20 semis put the pressure on entire team.

Happy for pakistan 🇵🇰 love from Indian fan who grew up watching likes of saeed anwar inzi waseem waqar. Abundance of natural talent and mercurial. ENG looking ominous though. May the best team win in the final.
 
MenInG said:
As per news media report:

MELBOURNE: Dejected Indian fans, who brought tickets of the ICC T20 Men’s World Cup final, in advance are now selling them at cheaper rates after the team’s humiliating ouster from the mega event.

Indian fans who brought tickets to finals for $295 are now selling them at $150 after Friday’s upset defeat at the hands of England in the second semi-final of the event.
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Beautiful....such arrogance. Shame I'm not vaxd. Always wanted to fly with Qantas!!! :lol:
 
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Zomato took the order but it is Careem who is going to process and complete the order here. :inti
 
Saj said:
India never really looked at their best in this tournament.

Even the matches they won, there were issues.

Look at the Pakistan match for example, they scraped home.

Some soul-searching needed.
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Yes absolutely.

Our media and public allowed one freak innings to paper over cracks that were very evident. Even yesterday, most of India thought we were favourites and then again, thought 169 would be enough against England.

This World Cup has been very good for holding up a mirror to names and reputations.
 
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