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Congratulations to Jimmy Anderson for reaching 500 Test wickets

Bowlers who have taken half or even less than one quarter of the wickets as compared to Anderson cannot be considered "greater" than Anderson just looking at the bowling average. It is like comparing the average running speed of a middle distance runner with average running speed of a marathon runner and concluding that Marathon runner is slower and therefore lesser performer than a marathon runner. That middle distance runner running at the same speed will burn out much before he can reach the finish line of a marathon race.

So, Anderson taking 500 wickets at an average of around 28 is far far better bowler than someone who may have taken 80 wickets at an average of 22 and then bowed out because that bowler did not have the necessary qualities to last long enough to take 500 test wickets.
Not at all.

People like Anderson play three times as many Tests per year as players could thirty years ago. Plus, the likes of Lillee, Roberts, Holding, Procter and Imran Khan don't get their SuperTest wickets counted in "official" statistics, even though they were at a much higher level than Test cricket.

As with Tendulkar and Walsh, Anderson's record is more a tribute to fitness and dedication than brilliance. Not even Courtney Walsh thinks that Walsh was as good as Ian Bishop, or even close. He was just luckier with his fitness and with a lack of competitors.
 
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Records like most wickets/ most runs are marathon kind of records. You cannot wave a magic wand and achieve these records overnight.

You need qualities of longevity that enable you to last that long to enable you to make these records. If you lack the ability to last long then you cannot make these records no matter how "great" you were for a limited period of time.
 
Not at all.

People like Anderson play three times as many Tests per year as players could thirty years ago. Plus, the likes of Lillee, Roberts, Holding, Procter and Imran Khan don't get their SuperTest wickets counted in "official" statistics, even though they were at a much higher level than Test cricket.

As with Tendulkar and Walsh, Anderson's record is more a tribute to fitness and dedication than brilliance. Not even Courtney Walsh thinks that Walsh was as good as Ian Bishop, or even close. He was just luckier with his fitness and with a lack of competitors.

How on earth do you equate fitness with luck. If Test cricket should be the most challenging assessment of a cricketer's ability why then do we vilify those who run in day in and day out. You make guys like Bishop demi-Gods when they just couldn't take the rigors of test cricket.
 
How on earth do you equate fitness with luck. If Test cricket should be the most challenging assessment of a cricketer's ability why then do we vilify those who run in day in and day out. You make guys like Bishop demi-Gods when they just couldn't take the rigors of test cricket.

Well, Anderson and Broad have the good luck to play in the central contracts era where their fitness is protected, unlike Dilley, Fraser, Caddick, Gough who were certainly as capable but were on the County treadmill and kept breaking down.
 
Always liked Jamie Anderson, bowling action is smooth, name is on point, plus has the looks.
 
James Anderson becomes first England cricketer to 800 wickets

James Anderson became the first England cricketer to 800 wickets across formats. He stretched his tally to a new high during the second Test of the 2017-18 Ashes. He made Peter Handscomb his 800th victim on Day Four.

Anderson had taken a mere wicket in the first innings, dismissing Usman Khawaja with an away-swinger. However, he has been on a rampage in the second innings. In the last session of Day Three, Anderson had Cameron Bancroft caught behind with an absolute peach of a delivery. In the same spell, he produced another snorter to have Khawaja trapped in front.

Anderson continued the good work in the first session of Day Four as well. He sent Nathan Lyon and Handscomb packing in quick secession.

Anderson is the only Englishman to 400 and 500 wickets in the longest format. In all, he has 513 wickets in 131* Tests. Stuart Broad, at 393 wickets, comes second in the list.

England, however, do not play Anderson in shorter formats. He has 269 wickets at 29.2 in 194 ODIs and 18 wickets at 30.6 in 19 T20Is.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/...first-england-cricketer-to-800-wickets-666171
 
Worst to 300, 400 and now 500 :13:

These numbers are only achievable for him because England play so much Test cricket.
 
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James Anderson
Average: 27.43
Innings: 244
Wickets: 508
5fers: 24
10fers: 3

Glenn McGrath
Average: 21.64
Innings: 243
Wickets: 563
5fers: 29
10fers: 3
 
Brilliant performance in the 2nd innings in batting friendly conditions. He seems to be ageing like a fine wine. Just when I think he might be done, outeth comes the hat and henceforth the rabbit.
 
I never understood the pathetic urge from haters to constantly berate Anderson, he is the least of England's worries. Anyhow, you got to absolutely clueless with regards to cricket when you keep on belittling him, look he's no Mcgrath but it takes immense endurance, skill and mental fortitude to take over 500 wickets. Plus his career has been that of two halves, no shame in peaking a bit late after some struggles beyond his control at times; some bowlers just never come to the party but he showed great character, any pak fan would kill to have an Anderson.

People think you just show up in England and roll your arm, the wicket will do the rest....you're just out of your depth to think in such a narrow minded way, you need to be excellent in order to exploit favourable conditions and Anderson has some decent performances in tough conditions as well. People also expected him to get destroyed in Australia, he has been ok so far and just took a very important 5fer on a surface that did not have a lot in it for him.

Whether people like it or not, he will be looked upon as an all time great. Maybe not at the level of an Akram or Mcgrath but he has cemented his legacy in the annals of cricketing history.
 
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Bowled really good spells in the 2nd inning. He's not an ATG but still a very good bowler.
 
Jimmy Anderson confounds Australian sceptics and torments Peter Handscomb

Jimmy Anderson does his best work after midnight. Australian time. For cricket fans in this country, the presence of the world’s most productive seam bowler of this decade is more theoretical than palpable. He lives on cable TV in the middle of football season.

But his record in Australia? That is a story we’re familiar with. Sure he did well in 2010-11, but got properly carted in the whitewashes either side. He’s the guy George Bailey hit for a record 28 runs from an over. Bailey played five Tests.

Anderson isn’t that quick either, which is readily equated to not that good. Sure, he can nip it on a green-top in mild England, but how does he go on a flat track in an unforgiving Australian summer? Not well enough to be concerned about. Right?

Perhaps that’s what Steve Smith thought when allowing Anderson use of a new pink ball under lights. By the assessment of Australia’s assistant coach, David Saker, it backfired, giving England a puncher’s chance of a ridiculous victory. One made possible by Anderson, who picked a handy time to record his first five-wicket bag in Australia. Overall, he now has 25 of them, second only to Ian Botham’s 28 for England. Yep – just another trundler.

Being able to bowl rather than follow on was a gift that kept on giving for the 35-year-old, as he attacked the hosts’ edges and stumps until they were routed. No Australian got beyond 20, with none more exposed than Peter Handscomb. The Australia No5 was utterly worked over, before giving Anderson his wicket with a stroke he will never want to see on replay. It was a fitting end given just how out of touch he finds himself at this crucial part of the summer.

“Our plan is working,” Anderson said of success against the Victorian, attacking his stumps early when the right-hander sets up deep in the crease. Between Brisbane and Adelaide, Handscomb was dismissive of scrutiny about his stance from former players. He had succeeded against some of the best bowlers in the world, went his argument, so why should it be different against Anderson? That might need a rethink.

That’s easier than it sounds, as Simon Katich can attest. In the 2005 Ashes, he was suffering a similar problem in balance to the one he identifies in Handscomb at the moment. The intensity of that series made it impossible to make a meaningful technical adjustment mid-stream.

It leaves Handscomb vulnerable for the first time since winning his baggy green. On paper that looks incongruous to his batting average, north of 47 in 12 Tests so far; a man who played a vital hand to save a match in India earlier this year, and a very brave one to survive in the brutal heat of Bangladesh. Captaincy was supposed to be in Handscomb’s future, not exile.

Yet here he is, the man most likely to make way if Australia do elect to change the composition of their XI in favour of a batting all-rounder for Perth – the nation’s least forgiving surface this season. In the most recent two Sheffield Shield games at the ground, more than 2,800 runs have been tallied with 325 chased in one. It is not the place to go without a back-up for an injury-prone bowling attack.

Mark Waugh, a national selector, gave an insight into that preference last week. “Ideally, you want a man at six who bowls seam-up as your batting all-rounder.” With Mitchell Marsh bowling again, and having clobbered 95 and 141 in the aforementioned Waca run-fests, these dots don’t take much joining. And his older brother Shaun is going nowhere.

That this is a point of interest speaks to another sketchy day at the office for Australia. Teams that romp to a 2-0 lead and rub their opponents’ nose in it don’t get changed. “The last two days haven’t gone to plan,” Saker observed of the ongoing sore of having that second bat. “In hindsight, we didn’t get an opportunity to bowl with the new ball under lights. That was our chance. Maybe we got it wrong.” What he said.

Meanwhile, England go to bed halfway there, and still very much living on a prayer, but with confidence renewed from nowhere. “We are delighted to be in this position, to be in any chance to win this game,” said Anderson. He has earned his side a grandstand finish.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/dec/05/jimmy-anderson-peter-handscomb-ashes
 
15 Tests for a maiden 5-fer in Oz, and this guy will overtake Walsh and McGrath in wickets. And even this single five-fer in swing friendly conditions similar to England.

He's bowling as well as he ever has but I wonder how many would pick him in a World XI ahead of Rabada, Starc, and Hazlewood. Let alone over McGrath or Walsh.

Win a couple of Tests in Australia Jimmy, and maybe you have a claim to being world class, not just home class.
 
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I never understood the pathetic urge from haters to constantly berate Anderson, he is the least of England's worries. Anyhow, you got to absolutely clueless with regards to cricket when you keep on belittling him, look he's no Mcgrath but it takes immense endurance, skill and mental fortitude to take over 500 wickets. Plus his career has been that of two halves, no shame in peaking a bit late after some struggles beyond his control at times; some bowlers just never come to the party but he showed great character, any pak fan would kill to have an Anderson.

People think you just show up in England and roll your arm, the wicket will do the rest....you're just out of your depth to think in such a narrow minded way, you need to be excellent in order to exploit favourable conditions and Anderson has some decent performances in tough conditions as well. People also expected him to get destroyed in Australia, he has been ok so far and just took a very important 5fer on a surface that did not have a lot in it for him.

Whether people like it or not, he will be looked upon as an all time great. Maybe not at the level of an Akram or Mcgrath but he has cemented his legacy in the annals of cricketing history.

It is funny to see people get a bug in their stomachs whenever he does well, which is very often much to their disdain.
 
Very good bowler but overrated like most English cricketer.
 
It is funny to see people get a bug in their stomachs whenever he does well, which is very often much to their disdain.

It's bizarre really, his feats individually mean a great deal but people constantly enter threads to berate him; they'd have you believe he's the epitome of a vintage military medium bowler from England who relishes the mystical powers of green wickets. If it's that easy why are there very few who have records that compare to Anderson's in England? and Pak fans are so funny, what is Anderson's record in the UAE again? if he were a specialist on certain wickets he'd struggle every time on dead pitches right and was that Akram taking the 5fer against AUS in Adelaide recently, surely it couldn't have been Jimmy. Some cricket fans are beyond ignorant.
 
It's bizarre really, his feats individually mean a great deal but people constantly enter threads to berate him; they'd have you believe he's the epitome of a vintage military medium bowler from England who relishes the mystical powers of green wickets. If it's that easy why are there very few who have records that compare to Anderson's in England? and Pak fans are so funny, what is Anderson's record in the UAE again? if he were a specialist on certain wickets he'd struggle every time on dead pitches right and was that Akram taking the 5fer against AUS in Adelaide recently, surely it couldn't have been Jimmy. Some cricket fans are beyond ignorant.

Mate, over rated is over rated. At his best, he can't and hasn't been stellar outside England. If you can't bowl like a legend around the world, and only at home, then you're not world class period. Just a local hero in a mediocre team.
 
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In the newest TMS they've interviewed Jimmy with questions pulled from the internet. When he's asked about learning as a cricketer, he goes on about how he watches a lot of cricket. Not necessarily the same kind of bowlers as me, but I learn a lot by watching. Mohammad Asif in 2010 Edgbaston was using a wobbly seam to get wickets, and I learned by watching that.

Wish I could ever trust Asif enough to say that he belongs in a coaching role because he'd be amazing.
 
Jimmy Anderson to return for Lancashire Second XI

England seamer Jimmy Anderson will make his return to competitive cricket for Lancashire second XI in a three-day match against Nottinghamshire at Emirates Old Trafford starting on July 15.

Anderson, who has not played since the second Test victory over Pakistan on June 3, has spent the past month rehabilitating a long-standing right shoulder injury and returned to bowling working with Lancashire and England staff in the past seven days.

As part of his plan, ahead of the first Specsavers Test against India starting on August 1, he will play for Lancashire seconds against Nottinghamshire and the Roses match in the Specsavers County Championship Division One match against Yorkshire at Emirates Old Trafford starting on July 22.
 
I never understood the pathetic urge from haters to constantly berate Anderson, he is the least of England's worries. Anyhow, you got to absolutely clueless with regards to cricket when you keep on belittling him, look he's no Mcgrath but it takes immense endurance, skill and mental fortitude to take over 500 wickets. Plus his career has been that of two halves, no shame in peaking a bit late after some struggles beyond his control at times; some bowlers just never come to the party but he showed great character, any pak fan would kill to have an Anderson.

People think you just show up in England and roll your arm, the wicket will do the rest....you're just out of your depth to think in such a narrow minded way, you need to be excellent in order to exploit favourable conditions and Anderson has some decent performances in tough conditions as well. People also expected him to get destroyed in Australia, he has been ok so far and just took a very important 5fer on a surface that did not have a lot in it for him.

Whether people like it or not, he will be looked upon as an all time great. Maybe not at the level of an Akram or Mcgrath but he has cemented his legacy in the annals of cricketing history.

Not as good as Bob Willis who travelled better, and I wouldn’t call Big Bob ATG in the sense that Lillee and Imran were.
 
India vs England Tests: James Anderson chases 'greatest fast bowler' Glenn McGrath

James Anderson will take field in the first Test of the five-match series between India and England, starting August 1 at Edgbaston, Birmingham, 23 wickets behind Glenn McGrath‘s tally of 563 Test wickets. McGrath’s haul is the most for a seamer in history, and the fourth for anyone, behind Muttiah Muralitharan (800 wickets), Shane Warne (708), and Anil Kumble (619).

Anderson had taken 25 wickets at 20.60 against India in 2014; an encore will be enough to take him past McGrath, though playing five Tests in six weeks is definitely going to be a challenge for cricketers, especially fast bowlers, of both sides.

However, in an interview with Sky Sports, Anderson confessed that he is in awe of the man he is touted to surpass soon: “To be as close to someone like Glenn McGrath as I am is still a bit surreal. For me, [McGrath] is the greatest fast bowler that there has ever been. ”I’m just going to keep playing as well as I can and if I get there, I get there [past McGrath].”

The feeling is mutual. McGrath had told cricket.co.au earlier this year: ”Records are there to be broken. If Jimmy is good enough he’ll get there. If he keeps playing for another year or two he’ll definitely get there. If he can get it good luck to him. I wish him all the best.”

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/...ses-greatest-fast-bowler-glenn-mcgrath-730987
 
He’s been phenomenal the last few years.A lot of credit goes to him for upping his game outside of home conditions.
 
He is already an all-time great without a doubt, and I am half proud of myself for calling him England’s greatest bowler when he was around 300 wickets.

His skill is unparalleled. If he was blessed with a bit more speed - which is a trait not a skill - he would have been top 5 bowler of all time in my view.

Finally, I know this isn’t a popular opinion, but as I said years ago, I prefer him to Steyn.
 
He is already an all-time great without a doubt, and I am half proud of myself for calling him England’s greatest bowler when he was around 300 wickets.

His skill is unparalleled. If he was blessed with a bit more speed - which is a trait not a skill - he would have been top 5 bowler of all time in my view.

Finally, I know this isn’t a popular opinion, but as I said years ago, I prefer him to Steyn.

This. I want Steyn and Philander to perform at end of their careers the way Jimmy is doing.

Steyn is one years younger than Jimmy btw.

Since he is English: PP don't rate him. If he were Pakistani, Aussie or, God forbid, Indian then he'd be the GOAT at PP.
 
James Anderson 'will never be beaten' says Glenn McGrath

Australian pace legend Glenn McGrath says James Anderson will "never be beaten" once he claims Test cricket's fast-bowling wicket-taking record.

McGrath holds the current record with 563 Test scalps, but Anderson is just six behind, and could claim the record in England's fourth Test against India, which begins this weekend in Southampton.

"Records are nice and I've been very proud to have taken more wickets than any fast bowler in Test history, but any high is there to be beaten and I will be equally proud of Jimmy when he goes past me because the fast bowlers' union has to stick together, whichever country we come from," McGrath told Sportsmail.

"It is only a matter of time now before he gets there and I will be getting in touch with him as soon as he does to say well done. I have an awful lot of respect for Jimmy. Good luck to him. I believe once he goes past me he will never be beaten."

Anderson has already played 17 more Tests than McGrath, and bowled nearly 2,000 more deliveries in Test cricket. The Australian finished his 124-Test career with an average of 21.64, winding up in Sydney after the 2006-07 Ashes whitewash. Anderson's average is a shade below 27.

"I've always said Jimmy was class, ever since I played against him in what became my last Test series in 2006-07. I noted how he swung the ball both ways conventionally, because it's a real art form," said McGrath.

"Not many have been able to do that. I can only really think of Wasim Akram, who is another great of the game, who could do that as skilfully.

"When the ball is swinging he's as good as anyone out there, but when it isn't he comes back towards the pack a little bit. That was certainly the case early in his career but he's developed his skills as he's gone on and become much more effective overseas.

"When Jimmy plays at home with the Dukes ball he's second to none, but he has had to learn how to operate overseas with the Kookaburra ball that, to me, is not nearly as good to bowl with.

"It took him a while but he's done that now.

"Once Jimmy goes past me it will be interesting to see where he wants to set the bar. With the nature of the game these days, and the amount of Twenty20 cricket, I believe no fast bowler will ever go past him."

McGrath said Anderson, at 36, was capable of reaching 600 Test wickets, and overtaking India spinner Anil Kumble's 619, which is third on the all-time Test wicket-taking list.

Sri Lankan Muthiah Muralidaran sits atop that table with 800 Test wickets, with Australian leg-spinner Shane Warne second on 708.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/gle...cord-563-england-india-southampton/2018-08-27
 
Should get past Kumble's 619 wickets as well by retirement. Phenomenal really.
 
What an awesome bowler Jimmy is! Just love his bowling action.

I think we can safely say that this is probably the last time we are facing him.
 

No he is not. Courtney Walsh was slightly better than him and he's not considered an ATG. Jimmy's average is still almost 27 and the disparity between his away and home averages is too wide to warrant the tag of an
ATG
 
No he is not. Courtney Walsh was slightly better than him and he's not considered an ATG. Jimmy's average is still almost 27 and the disparity between his away and home averages is too wide to warrant the tag of an
ATG
Agree with this.

ATG tags are so freely distributed these days. Some call Virat an ATG, I feel he still has a long way to go. Amla is a case in point.

Jimmy is very good, in fact great, but not an ATG. Guys like McGrath, Marshall, Hadlee, and Imran are ATGs.
 
Amazing bowler but ATG declarations are OTT.

He aint no ATG.

I cant say about this word ATG, but I think when people will talk about the greatest fast bowlers, and start looking at it era-by-era, surely, two names will come from this era- Steyn and Anderson, which means over time, everyone will eventually start accepting that Jimmy is an ATG or whatever the term be.

Jimmy breaking McGrath's bowling record is an equivalent to Cook breaking Tendulkar's batting record IMO and we all know that if Cook goes on and break Tendulkar's record, then he will surely be an ATG. Unfortunately, fact is the latter is unlikely to happen and hence Cook is nowhere near an ATG.

But as far as Jimmy is concerned, he is about to surpass McGrath's record and set a new benchmark of 600 wickets for a fast bowler. Surely, that should be enough to put him as an ATG although not like McGrath, Steyn, Ambrose or Wasim but still around about Walsh or Pollock level.
 
Best conventional swing bowler I have seen in my lifetime, and I include Wasim Akram in that assessment. His away record does count against him so I understand why many people are loth to calling him an ATG. Watching him bowl with the Duke ball has been a privilege, however, I do think his greatest achievements have been leading his side to away wins in Australia and India.
 
So McGrath said this about trundler that Jimmy is:

"I've always said Jimmy was class, ever since I played against him in what became my last Test series in 2006-07. I noted how he swung the ball both ways conventionally, because it's a real art form,"

"Not many have been able to do that. I can only really think of Wasim Akram, who is another great of the game, who could do that as skilfully."


But I'll take word of PPers, who is this McGrath fella anyways?

:yk
 
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Agree with this.

ATG tags are so freely distributed these days. Some call Virat an ATG, I feel he still has a long way to go. Amla is a case in point.

Jimmy is very good, in fact great, but not an ATG. Guys like McGrath, Marshall, Hadlee, and Imran are ATGs.

He's a borderline ATG for me , hovering between a great and proper ATG. Especially if you look at his record in the last 8 years. He has nearly 400 wickets at a very good average but still overall record is not impressive. Jimmy was good away but did not blow away either India or OZ away like Steyn has done a couple of times.
 
Best conventional swing bowler I have seen in my lifetime, and I include Wasim Akram in that assessment. His away record does count against him so I understand why many people are loth to calling him an ATG. Watching him bowl with the Duke ball has been a privilege, however, I do think his greatest achievements have been leading his side to away wins in Australia and India.

Whenever he bowls in England the ball talks.

Stats are important in cricket but they ain't everything. Fast bowling is an art and it can't be measured in stats :amir
 
He's a borderline ATG for me , hovering between a great and proper ATG. Especially if you look at his record in the last 8 years. He has nearly 400 wickets at a very good average but still overall record is not impressive. Jimmy was good away but did not blow away either India or OZ away like Steyn has done a couple of times.
True.
 
He will surpass McGrath pretty soon and as McGrath stated recently, no one will surpass Jimmy. The time of bowling test careers lasting this long and one being this dedicated are over.
 

Not at all.

His economy rate helps his average a lot.

Breakdown his numbers in a more detailed level and you will see.

When his team gets thrashed (opposition scoring 400 or 500+), he would end up with 30-6-60-3 (sometimes including tail). His average would read 20 but impact wise, he would be missing.

There are times when his stats flatter him (eg - UAE series, 2017 Ashes series).

This is not to say he is not great, which he is.

Amazing bowler.

But defo not ATG.
 
England seamer James Anderson insists he still "has a lot to offer" the Test team despite missing the bulk of the Ashes series with a calf injury.

Anderson managed only four overs in the first Test against Australia at Edgbaston and has not played since.

But England's leading Test wicket-taker has no plans to retire and aims to be fit to tour New Zealand in November.

"I don't feel 37. I feel in as good a shape as I ever have," he told BBC Sport.

Anderson says his immediate target is to be selected for the two Tests in New Zealand, before England then travel to South Africa for a four-Test series over Christmas and New Year.

He also refuses to rule out trying to be part of the England team that will attempt to regain the Ashes in Australia in the winter of 2021/22.

"I don't see why not," he said. "I still love playing the game and as long as I've got that hunger, I will try everything I possibly can to do that.

"I feel in great condition other than the calf, so it's a case of looking to the next challenge and trying to get on a winter tour."

Anderson was not part of England's World Cup-winning squad and was instead preparing for the Ashes by playing County Championship cricket for Lancashire.

He picked up 30 wickets at an average of just 9.37 but he injured his calf in a match against Durham at the start of July.

The man with 575 Test wickets missed the inaugural Test with Ireland at Lord's as a precaution before he was passed fit for the opening game of the Ashes at Edgbaston.

But he felt tightness in his calf after only four overs and did not bowl a single ball at Australia batsman Steve Smith, a player he had dismissed six times previously in Tests.

Smith has gone on to score 671 runs in the series to date as Australia retained the Ashes, taking a 2-1 lead into the final Test at The Oval, starting on Thursday.

"It's natural to think how you can affect a situation," Anderson said. "Leading up to the Ashes, you are constantly thinking about how the series is going to go and how you are going to bowl at certain players but you can't think about the what ifs.

"Steve Smith has been fantastic, comfortably the best player in the world at the moment, and unfortunately for us we haven't quite been able to get him out.

"To score over 300 runs more than anyone else in the series shows he has been the difference between the two sides."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/49648578
 
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