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Incredible! :bow:

WI's have been overly criticised and ridiculed after their first Test loss and there have been calls for 2 divisions, but what a slap in the face of their critics! EXCELLENT!

Hopefully this is a new dawn for WI's cricket, there are some decent players coming through and this win would have done a world of good for cricket in the Caribbean!
 
Windies complete the greatest chase ever in testing conditions! Simply brilliant!

What a performance from Windies! :salute Hope in particular was outstanding.

On another note, England choke again. :yk
 
Not many thought they could compete at Headingley.

Not only did they compete but won in style - chasing 300+ on the 5th day. A special moment to savour.
 
Hopefully this will put an end to the 'How did Pak lose a match against this team' type of silly threads for good...when two teams meet, if conditions don't help one over the other significantly...both teams have the same chance and both are there to win the game!

Anything can happen against any team...hats off to this WI team; talk Naah you haterz!
 
I'd say in these circles probably me and only [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] had faith they'd improve on the 1st Test performance but even before the series folk completely wrote them off and the English especially where incredibly obnoxious :mv This is even bigger then winning those World T20's !
 
Always lovely when our boys from the Caribbean notch up a win.
 
Not many thought they could compete at Headingley.

Not only did they compete but won in style - chasing 300+ on the 5th day. A special moment to savour.

Outstanding, and they won despite all those dropped catches ! this Test could have been all over within 3 days had they held onto their catches :akhtar but what an accomplishment, never mind rebounding from the 1st Test loss, to pull of such a challenging chase is even more remarkable; excellent character and fight !
 
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Sri Lanka demolishing India at the CT (where it really matters), Zimbabwe beating Sri Lanka and now this! Cricket most certainly has a bright future. :shafiq2
 
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] [MENTION=139981]HitWicket[/MENTION] [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] I dedicate this lovely song to you guys:


:akhtar :viv

Don't FORGET !

England will always be the West Indians personal Rag Doll :lara
 
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Superb win and congratulations to everyone involved in West Indies cricket.

Remarkable victory.
 
Given the circumstances this has to be one of the West Indies greatest Test win in their rich history, has to be up there!
 
Well done WI.They have now won a test match in UAE in England.Thats decent away performance.
 
For the first time in years, I've seen WI play an away test and not regretted watching it.

They were great, but the fielding side gave second chances to everyone who ended up scoring a hundred and a fw fifties.

This kind of fielding won't win them many matches.
 
Congrats well played. Reallyyyy happy.

But team is still carrying 2-3 passengers and can be even better. Need a better spinner (may be Nikita Miller?) and bring Bravo and Hetmyer at 2 and 3.
 
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] [MENTION=139981]HitWicket[/MENTION] [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] I dedicate this lovely song to you guys:


:akhtar :viv

Don't FORGET !

England will always be the West Indians personal Rag Doll :lara

James is a fair bloke. He wanted a contest and he got one. You don't see him being biased.
 
Now only if Australia looses tomorrow it would make my day!
 
Excellent performance from the WI today but it does not eclipse the awful performances over the past number of years. They seem to be improving with numerous flashes in the pan being a possible sign of something greater to come.
 
England will not win the Ashes in Australia, at times they are bit inconsistent.
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] tharay dadpotray lagi lagi paagal hoi jasan.
 
Remarkable victory. I thought it was over after Ali's innings yesterday. Major props to Braithwaite and Hope!
 
Congratulations to the West Indies!

Tbh, they should have bagged this game by day 4 considering the amount of catches they dropped!
 
Some top class players in this team;

Shay Hope
Kraig Brathwaite
Shannon Gabriel
Kemar Roach
Jason Holder

Roston Chase isn't too bad as an all-rounder either
 
Some top class players in this team;

Shay Hope
Kraig Brathwaite
Shannon Gabriel
Kemar Roach
Jason Holder

Roston Chase isn't too bad as an all-rounder either

Recently, Chase has been their best batsman.
 
Exciting match. Had a feeling WI would win yesterday after stumps. Shame I couldn't follow most of the day due to work but I watched the last 2-3 hours and it was really exciting. England can say that they shouldn't have declared etc but nobody can deny WI were the better team and deserved to win this test match more than England.
 
This really is something

Congrats
 
Congrats WI. Remarkable victory and really wanted them to win.

BUT how is this the greatest come back victory? They were leading by almost 170 runs in the first inning. In fact should have won without any sweat.
 
Congrats WI. Remarkable victory and really wanted them to win.

BUT how is this the greatest come back victory? They were leading by almost 170 runs in the first inning. In fact should have won without any sweat.

Comeback after the first Test. Did you see some of the comments from pundits, calling this one of the worst teams and what not? That's why it's a big deal.
 
Always great to see England lose. Congrats to West Indies on a brilliant chase.
 
Congrats well played. Reallyyyy happy.

But team is still carrying 2-3 passengers and can be even better. Need a better spinner (may be Nikita Miller?) and bring Bravo and Hetmyer at 2 and 3.

Take West Indian spinners' domestic averages with a huge grain of salt. Some WI fans say Miller's a domestic bully who's adept at exploiting those slow turners in the Caribbean.

But I agree they should upgrade on Bishoo - he lacks the control and pace through the air of a Yasir Shah and doesn't have a good googly hence why some WI fans call him "Nogooglyshoo".
 
Some top class players in this team;

Shay Hope
Kraig Brathwaite
Shannon Gabriel
Kemar Roach
Jason Holder

Roston Chase isn't too bad as an all-rounder either

Roach is bowling very wide of the crease since his comeback from a near career ending 2014 car accident. Compare his release points between the 2012 tour of England and this series. Maybe [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] can explain as I don't understand it - he's a bigger threat when bowling closer to the stumps.

He's also lost his pace since his car accident, average pace has been early to mid 80s. He did get some swing though.
 
The pitch was more suitable but still a great win Root underestimated Windies chasing capability should've batted them out of the game made them chase 350+ in 80 overs.
 
Roach is bowling very wide of the crease since his comeback from a near career ending 2014 car accident. Compare his release points between the 2012 tour of England and this series. Maybe [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] can explain as I don't understand it - he's a bigger threat when bowling closer to the stumps.

He's also lost his pace since his car accident, average pace has been early to mid 80s. He did get some swing though.

Due to lack of pace. If he comes closer and bowls a straighter line, considering his height and inconsistent action, he'll get picked off very easily. The angle gives him greater margin for error because the batsman will be taking a risk every time. Roach is just a temporary fix. It's unfortunate what's happened to him but they'll move on when Alzarri develops.
 
I'd say in these circles probably me and only [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] had faith they'd improve on the 1st Test performance but even before the series folk completely wrote them off and the English especially where incredibly obnoxious :mv This is even bigger then winning those World T20's !

Before the series started, I wrote that Windies would be more competitive than South Africa. I'm happy to have been proved right.
 
Congrats WI. Remarkable victory and really wanted them to win.

BUT how is this the greatest come back victory? They were leading by almost 170 runs in the first inning. In fact should have won without any sweat.

People were questioning WI test status, and some were comparing them to the likes of Ireland and Afghanistan. This victory is a big deal, a very big deal
 
Greatest comeback victory in history?

Are you going to tell VVS Laxman, or am I?

Well done to the West Indies.

Managerial ineptitude has made them lose a generation of cricketers, but they are the wrong side of 30 anyway now.

We (England) have major problems with our batting at 2, 3 and 5 and with a lack of pace in our bowling.

I don't care how Haseeb Hameed and Steven Finn's form is. I want them in every Test squad.
 
Congrats to Windies,wish they played often like this!

Not the greatest comeback though,away maybe that to against a much better team!
 
Heartiest congrats to West Indies for making one of test cricket 's greatest comebacks ever after literally looking dead and buried at Edgbaston .It staged one of the greatest ever winning chases in a 4th innings and one of the best test wins ever by an underdog.Test cricket won a victory yesterday .West Indies ressurected the glory of the days when they were a truly great team. ,reviving memories of those days yesterday.Great to see the light of Calypso cricket shimmer after very long in England.Arguably Hope played one of test cricket's classic knocks in a run chase.
 
Calypsos revived or ressurected the spirit of yesteryears when they were a champion team.Arguably West Indies best ever performance in. 4th innings run chase.Bratwaithe and Hope were truly brilliant.
 
Now where is the thread that was belittling this west Indies side and asking how can Pakistan lost 2 tests to this side?

Hahaha That thread disappeared fast...
 
remarkable victory. Congrats Windies, hope they keep consistency. Stuart law should be very proud of the effort from the boys. To make comeback against one of top test teams on their own den is incredible.
 
Regret missing this match. I thought it was all over when England declared. Didn't see the final day. But wow what a performance. Windies cricket is going to get better. Slowly but surely they'll become a better team
 
West indies are a better test side than us it would seem.

Well done

Brilliant.

Shai Hope

Meet the real Brathwaite - Kraig Brathwaite.
 
A nice tight slap on the faces of people who were saying India don't deserve their #1 test rank because that has come due to bullying teams like WI.
 
Greatest comeback victory in history?

Are you going to tell VVS Laxman, or am I?

Well done to the West Indies.

Managerial ineptitude has made them lose a generation of cricketers, but they are the wrong side of 30 anyway now.

We (England) have major problems with our batting at 2, 3 and 5 and with a lack of pace in our bowling.

I don't care how Haseeb Hameed and Steven Finn's form is. I want them in every Test squad.

Finn has nothing but bounce and Aussie's never get intimidated by bounce.
Hameed is good, I agree. But I would take Jennings over him.
 
For the first time in years, I've seen WI play an away test and not regretted watching it.

They were great, but the fielding side gave second chances to everyone who ended up scoring a hundred and a fw fifties.

This kind of fielding won't win them many matches.

What was interesting was that both sides caught poorly- could be Headingly is a tough ground to field at?
 
What was interesting was that both sides caught poorly- could be Headingly is a tough ground to field at?

Maybe? Haven't really thought about that and don't remember commentators mentioning it. To my eyes only a few looked tough, but still were not the sort you'd need Collingwood to catch. And there were many dollies. England's catching in Tests has been poor more recently.
 
West Indies did what the great Pakistan cricket team couldn't do in England. Hold out on a Day 5 wicket and chase 300+.

Shame on Pakistan for the way they threw the Edgbaston test away.

Hoping for a windies triumph in the 3rd Test, so that PPers realise how overrated the 2-2 result in England was last summer.
 
West Indies did what the great Pakistan cricket team couldn't do in England. Hold out on a Day 5 wicket and chase 300+.

Shame on Pakistan for the way they threw the Edgbaston test away.

Hoping for a windies triumph in the 3rd Test, so that PPers realise how overrated the 2-2 result in England was last summer.

Why do people need to take a swipe at one team in order to praise another ?

Disregarding the fact Pakistan have chased 300+ targets in the 4th innings on two separate occasions before, the conditions were different. England got much more reverse swing on the 5th Day last year at Edgbaston. Here the field was dampened due to overnight rain so there wasn't much reverse.

Pakistan fans should remember the opposition are allowed to play well too, not every defeat is a case of us "throwing it away". Where Windies do deserve credit over us is that they rotated strike a lot better on the fifth day whereas we were simply looking to survive instead of playing our natural game.

Anyway England have convincingly beaten Australia and South Africa at home so for us to get the results we did last summer, beating them convincingly in two Tests having not played Tests in England for 6 years, was a great effort.
 
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Congratulations. What a historic victory. Winning after England's declaration at England.
 
Why do people need to take a swipe at one team in order to praise another ?

Disregarding the fact Pakistan have chased 300+ targets in the 4th innings on two separate occasions before, the conditions were different. England got much more reverse swing on the 5th Day last year at Edgbaston. Here the field was dampened due to overnight rain so there wasn't much reverse.

Pakistan fans should remember the opposition are allowed to play well too, not every defeat is a case of us "throwing it away". Where Windies do deserve credit over us is that they rotated strike a lot better on the fifth day whereas we were simply looking to survive instead of playing our natural game.

Anyway England have convincingly beaten Australia and South Africa at home so for us to get the results we did last summer, beating them convincingly in two Tests having not played Tests in England for 6 years, was a great effort.
Lets not make it about Pakistan we should be praising West Indies incredible feat, people should give credit where due instead of spewing their agendas due to insecurity.
 
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Take West Indian spinners' domestic averages with a huge grain of salt. Some WI fans say Miller's a domestic bully who's adept at exploiting those slow turners in the Caribbean.

But I agree they should upgrade on Bishoo - he lacks the control and pace through the air of a Yasir Shah and doesn't have a good googly hence why some WI fans call him "Nogooglyshoo".

Haha thanks. Yeh not a fan of Bishoo. They should find someone better.
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] You may have a certain opinion on Bischoo but not like he has ever been treated adequately by management or his team, when he burst onto the scene there was a lot of promise but they did not elevate his development and he hasn't been incredible in the most recent Test but they've under bowled him which makes his selection bizzare, leggies rely on confidence and rhythm more then most bowlers and giving a few overs here and there whilst expecting magic to happen is naive, not even Warne could strike in such fashion !
 
Waiting to see [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] to start similar 'Congratulations' thread for BD's first ever victory over Australia :D
 
What does it feel like losing test matches to the windies? We Indians wouldn't know since we haven't lost a single test match against them since 2002 :srini
 
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Amazing.
Westindies are proving to be a better touring team than India.

Everyone is a better touring team then India, give Ireland a few Tests to get going and even they will be a better touring Test team then India !
 
Incredible! :bow:

WI's have been overly criticised and ridiculed after their first Test loss and there have been calls for 2 divisions, but what a slap in the face of their critics! EXCELLENT!

Hopefully this is a new dawn for WI's cricket, there are some decent players coming through and this win would have done a world of good for cricket in the Caribbean!

This could be the greatest comeback victory if the comeback is counted as starting from the beginning of the Test.

The greatest comeback at any point must be when Dravid walked in to bat in Kolkata 2001 with India 4 down in the second innings and still behind after being made to follow on by Australia. Australia were on a 16 game win streak.

It may be argued that the greatest was Australia's comeback after 8 wickets down and 51 runs ahead of Pakistan in Sydney 2010, but it is not clear if that match was fairly played.
 
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Utterly heartwarming performance. It was a pure joy to watch Shai Hope bat in this test match, the most masterful piece of test match batting since Laxman at Kolkata in 2001.
 
This could be the greatest comeback victory if the comeback is counted as starting from the beginning of the Test.

The greatest comeback at any point must be when Dravid walked in to bat in Kolkata 2001 with India 4 down in the second innings and still behind after being made to follow on by Australia. Australia were on a 16 game win streak.

It may be argued that the greatest was Australia's comeback after 8 wickets down and 51 runs ahead of Pakistan in Sydney 2010, but it is not clear if that match was fairly played.

Start of the Test I highly doubt any team would have as low odds as WI's and then to bounce back it was incredible, punters who put a wager on the WI's must be filthy rich right now :))

But during there must be loads of risings from the dead
 
Band Bajan: Seven players from Barbados helped West Indies shock England

It would still be premature to link the astonishing five-wicket win to some sort of dramatic revival in West Indies cricket. But, when West Indies chased down 322 in the second Test in Leeds, they had completed arguably the greatest turnaround in cricket history.

AS A child, Kraigg Brathwaite was scrawny and puny. And he would often get picked on and bullied in the school bus. Brathwaite, however, had protection. He had Rihanna. The future pop sensation was four years older than her Combermere schoolmate and would board the bus from the same stop in St Michael. Rihanna, then simply Robyn Fenty, would not only put Brathwaite on her lap; she would also beat up any kid who dared to bother the future West Indies opener.

Rihanna didn’t stop looking out for Brathwaite long after they’d both passed out of school. In fact, the fashion diva provided front-row seats to not just Brathwaite, who was the West Indies under-19 captain then, but the entire team for her concert in the USA when they were there for a camp before the junior World Cup in 2012.

Brathwaite, now 24, has grown taller with time. But he still possesses one of the slightest frames going around in international cricket. Over the last five days, he was up against some of the meanest bullies with ball in hand at England’s favourite bullying ground. But Brathwaite didn’t need any saving against the likes of James Anderson, Stuart Broad and Ben Stokes at Headingley. He was the one saving the West Indies and their legacy. He did have familiar company at the other end though in compatriot Shai Hope. Interestingly enough, they were two among seven players from Barbados in the playing XI — on a day the tiny island got its first-ever Grand Slam tennis player in Darian King at the US Open — most of whom had a role to play in the West Indies making history.

While Brathwaite, with scores of 134 and 95, helped West Indies do something nobody expected of them, Hope ended up doing something that nobody else had done before. He became the first batsman to score a century in each innings of a first-class match not only at Headingley, but anywhere in the county of Yorkshire, where cricket’s been played for a century and a half. Jason Holder led from the front with a crucial cameo in the first innings and pressure spells with the ball in both. He also sent a text to his entire team on the morning of the fifth day asking them to believe, which they did. Roston Chase slowed England down with wickets in the second innings and shared a steadying partnership with Hope during the run-chase, while Kemar Roach led the bowling attack both on the field and, it’s learnt, in the dressing room. Shane Dowrich was neat behind the stumps and present at the crease when the winning runs were scored. Trinidad’s Shannon Gabriel and Jamaica’s Jermaine Blackwood were stars too in the eventual victory but in many ways the Leeds victory was a throwback to the times when West Indian cricket success generally revolved around a bunch of individuals from an island the size of Chennai — around 167 square miles — and a population of under 3 lakh.

It would still be premature to link the astonishing five-wicket win to some sort of dramatic revival in West Indies cricket. There have been way too many false dawns in the Caribbean over the last decade after all. But like Michael Atherton put it, when West Indies chased down 322 in the second Test in Leeds, they had completed arguably the greatest turnaround in cricket history, only a week after they were humbled and humiliated within three days at Edgbaston.

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AMONG THE many rave reviews that came the West Indies’ way was one from Ian Botham, who wrote about how world cricket needs a vibrant West Indies team. It’s a statement we’ve heard over and over again as the men from the Caribbean have tried to climb out of the deep and dark hole their cricket has found itself in during the 21st century. But perhaps, what it needs is a vibrant Barbados cricket team. For, like history suggests, some of West Indian cricket’s greatest moments have come when they have had generous representation from the tiny country, which per capita possesses the most prosperous cricketing legacy compared to any other cricketing nation. And not just because Everton Weekes, Clyde Walcott and Frank Worrell were born in the same neighbourhood.

But right from the time of the 3Ws to when Wes Hall and Charlie Griffith terrorised opposition batsmen with Garry Sobers, Seymour Nurse and Conrad Hunte shifting yardsticks with the bat, West Indian cricket has always thrived on a generous dollop of Barbados talent. When they dominated the world during the 70s and 80s, there were the likes of Viv Richards and Andy Roberts from Antigua and Jamaica’s Michael Holding and Jeffrey Dujon. But even then, no island was represented as well as Barbados — Gordon Greenidge and Desmond Haynes destroyed attacks at the top with Malcolm Marshall and Joel Garner destroying batting line-ups with the ball. Most of the reserve pacers, from Winston Davis to Wayne Daniel, came from there too.

And perhaps, it’s no coincidence that the downfall of West Indies cricket has coincided with Barbados’ own talent drain. Just take the 2000s. Only 25 cricketers from Barbados have appeared in Tests for West Indies in the last 17 years, seven of whom played at Leeds. Only three of those managed to play over 30 matches. Fidel Edwards ended up with 55 while Brathwaite and Roach presently sit on 39 each. Overall in this period, Bajans have appeared in 404 matches. That pales in comparison to those played by the Jamaicans, Trinis and even the Guyanese — who during the days of Bajan domination had minimal representation. Generally there was only Clive Lloyd, with Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan coming later. For the record, when West Indies last won a Test in England — at Edgbaston in 2000 — they had only one Bajan in the team, opener Sherwin Campbell. But though the democratisation of cricket in the Caribbean is not a bad thing, it doesn’t seem to have resulted in much success.

The most common cause given for the fall of Barbados cricket is the state of the pitches. The Kensington Oval at its prime lived up the reputation of being the home of the most fearsome fast bowlers in the world. But somehow through the 90s and during this century, the pitches have been more in favour of spin. And it’s said to be across the island too and has seen Barbados not winning a single four-day title in the last 10 years. Matches get over within two days, and the pitches deteriorate so rapidly that the home team is often keen on declaring with a low total just so that they can skittle out hapless visiting teams.

The clubs, even the historic ones, have as a result struggled to produce talent. Take Pickwick Cricket Club, which is housed at the Kensington Oval, and was once home to Worrell. So too Hope. Pickwick was in fact relegated to the second division last year, and it’s seen Hope play in the lower leagues, often batting alongside Hayley Matthews, the teenaged West Indian women’s cricketer who won them the World T20 final last year. Hope, who came into the Leeds match with a Test batting average of 18, was only the third middle-order batsman from Barbados after Carlisle Best and Dwayne Smith to score a Test century since Sobers retired in 1974.

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BARBADOS CELEBRATED the 50th anniversary of its independence only last year and has always been considered the most British of the islands. It’s even referred to as Little England by some still. Everyone from Richard Branson to Mick Jagger own houses on the island and often show up for the cricket, or have done so in the past. The Tridents, the Caribbean Premier League team that represents the island, is owned by Vijay Mallya. But the benefactor responsible for the renaissance of cricketing talent in Barbados is one that nobody in the island had ever heard of before.

He was neither a famous musician nor a businessman. Lord Robert Gavron, who passed away in 2015, was a publisher and a philanthropist who fell in love with Barbados. To such an extent, that at the turn of the century he set up the Lord Gavron Scholarship for promising young cricketers. Over the years, he spent over a million pounds on developing and giving opportunities to budding talent from the island, even setting up scholarships for them in England.

For the record, six of the seven Bajans who played the Leeds Test — Kyle Hope the only exception — were winners and beneficiaries of the Gavron scholarship or in the words of the late Lord’s wife, were Bob’s boys. And Bob’s boys were responsible for more than half the wickets and nearly 90 per cent of the runs that West Indies scored during their famous win.

There are some in the Caribbean who have turned their nose up at the burgeoning of Bajan presence in the West Indian team, putting it down to Holder being the captain. The Headlingley Test should have those detractors to rest. Holder is slowly but surely developing into a decent all-rounder — he’s scored the most Test runs at No.8 over the last two years — and has held this team together despite the never-ending crisis. Chase has emerged as the most consistent batsman of the side — averaging in the mid-40s — and a useful spin bowler. Roach has returned stronger and keener to play Tests after a two-year hiatus while Brathwaite remains the bedrock of the batting line-up, now with Hope showing signs of sharing the burden.

But again, only a similar performance at Lord’s in the third Test will justify any talk of the Leeds win having been a step towards a brighter future for West Indies cricket. They’re only a loss away from slipping back into the abyss they’ve existed in for a long time and for the “it is what it is” diatribe to take over again. But for now, the cricket world can sit back and savour what was a terrific Test win orchestrated by a bunch of young underdogs.

This time, nobody was asking the cricket world to remember any names, Brathwaite or otherwise, and there was no manic dancing at the end of it but just two very cool young men walking off the field nonchalantly. Unlike the World T20 wins, the scenes at Headlingley didn’t thrill the hearts of the cricket world, they warmed them.

http://indianexpress.com/article/sp...ite-west-indies-vs-england-shai-hope-4821425/
 
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