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Changes were taking place in the Pakistani dressing room too. Discussing Inzamam ul-Haq's captaincy, Akhtar describes the team's growing radicalization. "To force grown-ups, as thought they were children, to do the namaz or zikr seems a bit strange to me. But some people thought that this was the way to take the team forward.Roza, namaz, tabliz were to be compulsory team events. Threats were used; if you don't pray with the team, you will be thrown out.
Islam has also given us instructions on when and how to pray. When the whole team got together for namaz, the bathroom floor would become wet and filthy. It was disgusting. Islam is all about purity, cleanliness. We began praying on air-planes, if you please. I firmly believe in namaz. However, a cricketer's primary duty is to play cricket. If you feel that cricket is less important, leave it - go out into the world and preach. When religion came into our dressing room, I thought, what hypocrisy!"
When asked why his attachment to his family saint and his deep religious belief still made him so uncomfortable with Inzamam's ways, he said: "Hypocrisy makes me uncomfortable. I am against imposing something on anybody - or me."
Islam has not 'united' Pakistan cricket team.
It just brings a false sense of pseudo-religiosity, the all-emotional 'Pehlay Allah ka shukar hay' speeches followed by a meeting with a bookie where you sell your country for some thousand rupees.
He's spot on: you shouldn't bring religion in the dressing room, or at least not in the coercive manners as some have done in the past.
You're paid to play cricket primarily, that's it, and if you pray, fair enough but don't play the tablighi jamaat with the rest of the players.
Islam has not 'united' Pakistan cricket team.
It just brings a false sense of pseudo-religiosity, the all-emotional 'Pehlay Allah ka shukar hay' speeches followed by a meeting with a bookie where you sell your country for some thousand rupees.
He's spot on: you shouldn't bring religion in the dressing room, or at least not in the coercive manners as some have done in the past.
You're paid to play cricket primarily, that's it, and if you pray, fair enough but don't play the tablighi jamaat with the rest of the players.
+1
Incidentally it was Waqar (not Inzi) who first started these 'pehley Allah ka hukar hay' post match speeches
islam has not 'united' pakistan cricket team.
It just brings a false sense of pseudo-religiosity, the all-emotional 'pehlay allah ka shukar hay' speeches followed by a meeting with a bookie where you sell your country for some thousand rupees.
He's spot on: You shouldn't bring religion in the dressing room, or at least not in the coercive manners as some have done in the past.
You're paid to play cricket primarily, that's it, and if you pray, fair enough but don't play the tablighi jamaat with the rest of the players.
Akhtar's new autobiography 'Controversially Yours' suggests Tendulkar was 'scared' of his short-pitched stuff. He must be joking!!
Ok seriously been watching through these various interviews & news reports and the people who are so offended and up tight really need to the stick out their back side.
The media has single handedly created controversy out of somthing which doesn't even be solid fact!
People need to wait and read the book them self before jumping on the badwaggon and just believing everything the media spoon feeds them!
Media: "Sachin is scared of fast bowling"
Akhtar: "On that particular day in Faislabad i felt Tendu didnt wanna play fast bowling i didnt call him a dar bokh or anything"
Media: "....so you came out on top then VS sachin??"
Media: "Sharukh Khan & Lalit Modi screwed you over"
Akhtar: "No lalat modi screwed me over..i never said Sharukh screwed me over"
Media: ".......so how exactly did sharukh screw you over?"
Media: "SO you regret going IPL?"
Akhtar: "No i loved the IPL...to play in india and see the indian people cheering for me was amazing!"
Media: "....so why did you hate IPL?"
Media: "Have you forgiven Afridi for dropping you in the 2011 WC SF?
Akhtar: Theres nothing to forgive him for. I was just devastated we lost. I just felt like it was soming which brought together the whole of Pak together and was sad to see us loose
Media: "So you think if you played you would win?"
Akhtar: "No i dont only Allah knows that but it was dissapointing"
Media: "....so still mad at Afridi for dropping you then?"
Media: "Pakistani greats ball tamper?"
Akhtar: "People all over the world ball tamper including the likes of sachin, english players, australian players"
Media: "....so why does Pakistan ball tamper?"
Media: "Who match fixed in Paks team?"
Akhtar: "I dont know but I said it happens"
Media: "how do you know if it happens or not?"
Akhtar: "I was approached"
Media: "So why didnt you name who match fixes?"
Akhtar: "Because i dont know if they have i just know we are approaced and happens all over the world"
Media: ".....so what % of Paks team match fixes??"
And then the one i find most annoying my self:
Media: "Sachin isnt a great"
Akhtar: "He is a great"
Media: "But he's not your fav"
Akhtar: "No"
Media: "Then he's not a great like Ponting, Viv & Lara?"
Akhtar: "Hes the greatest of them...but hes not my fav?"
Media: "...........so he's not a great?"
Seriously at times i just really feel like slapping the face off some of these annoying media reporters who are just looking to try and get a bite onto something they can make a big deal out of!!
Theres an 8 page thread on this forum, with a lot of people attacking Akhtar for these comments which none of us have seen him make but have just been fed to us by the media!
PLEASE PEOPLE AT LEAST WAIT FOR THE BOOK TO BE RELEASED FIRST!
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On a side note:
Media: "So Waqar & Wasim were greats but they were not good role models and captains and caused a lot of tension in the dressing room"
Akhtar: "Yes"
So i can see whyis annoyed but lets be honest...we all know that the 2 W's weren't exactly BFF's and that would have created friction in the changing room and wasnt the best example to set for the youngsters like Akhtar coming into the team!
Good post
He's clarified that he was just talking about that one series in Faisalabad when Teenda was having trouble with tennis elbow. As usual Indian media going nuts, Indian people going nuts, lols being delivered)
Tony Grieg tweets
Just an asskissing twit.
Seriously people just read the book before making stupid conclusions.
Tony Greig takes a shot at India whenever he gets a chance, I dunno what you are talking about here....
Ive just had a genius idea.
Kidnap Sachin.
Kashmir for ransom.
Problem solved.
our neighbours always envy sachin tendulkar including their cricketers..... their attempts are like spitting on the sun... Pakistanis including their cricketers always crying that sachin is not a match winner....
I remember.... who had started this? it is by Imran Khan... reason .... sachin and inzamam made their international debut at the same time... at that time imran predicted inzamam is better batsman that sachin... however, after 6-7 years sachin left inzy far behind.... it makes imran angry... In an interview to rediff.com in 2000, Imran was the 1st to say in jealousy that sachin is not match winner...... pakistanis and their players thinks that match winner is the player who throws his bat in air after scoring wining run, it doesn't matter to them if he scores 1,2,5 or 10 runs....
IMO matchwinner is a player whose contribution is big in winning his side..... that matchwinner gets man of the match award.... Sachin won MOM 62 times.... most in the world..
If sachin is not match winner, then i doubt there exist anyone!
Good post
He's clarified that he was just talking about that one series in Faisalabad when Teenda was having trouble with tennis elbow. As usual Indian media going nuts, Indian people going nuts, lols being delivered)
Astagfirullah!
I personally don't care about his opinion related to dressing room and Pakistan cricket, but leave Islam alone.
For the first time, i have witnessed Pakistan team gelled together through the whole 3 years period without any controversy (barring Akhtar controversies), and no oath taking, no undermining, and nothing at all. The biggest strength of Pakistan team was unity, and if Islam has united Pakistan cricket, then why not. If we follow Sunnah, and imposes Allaah's Laws on us in order to discipline us, and to protect us from drinking, partying, and any haraam activities which Pakistan team needed, and still need considering the amount of never ending controversies Pakistan team still has to face, and the latest issue is now as one struggle to respect the elder brother despite of differences, and before that, it was spot fixing, and 2009 was disaster because of the fact that our team has distanced themselves from Islam, and look at Pakistan situation, and how Allaah (SWT) has punished the team.
How can we pray Allaah (SWT) for victory if our team is enjoying haraam activities? Think about it. Allaah (SWT) answers to those who true follow the Sunnah, and pray Namaaz for the sake of Allaah (SWT) - not that one has to (feeling forced to do).
No wonder why the whole nation is messed, and to the extent, we have supporters endorsing political parties endorsing haraam activities, and prefer that over the Shariaw Law, and love of Pakistan, and unity of Pakistan.
Pakistan is lost, and need to get back to Islam truly. Both the nation and cricket team, and Insha'Allaah, it will get better.
Indian media is over-reacting.Everyone is entitled to their opinion.We all know where Sachin & Dravid stand,it hardly matters what a small time bowler says.
Poor post! Pakistan cricket teams no 1 priority shouldve been training, analysis and strategy - not prayer. Yes if players want to pray they can Nobody shouldve been coerced/forced/blackmailed into it
Pakistans focus was lost during 07 world cup, instead of preparing to do their best we relied on prayer. It was horrible to see our portly men in jubbas with big beards whilst other teams looked fit, sprightly and energetic
Poor post! Pakistan cricket teams no 1 priority shouldve been training, analysis and strategy - not prayer. Yes if players want to pray they can Nobody shouldve been coerced/forced/blackmailed into it
Pakistans focus was lost during 07 world cup, instead of preparing to do their best we relied on prayer. It was horrible to see our portly men in jubbas with big beards whilst other teams looked fit, sprightly and energetic
Ive just had a genius idea.
Kidnap Sachin.
Kashmir for ransom.
Problem solved.
SS you genious what if in response they kidnap Misblock ul Haq and demand Kashmir again![]()
SS you genious what if in response they kidnap Misblock ul Haq and demand Kashmir again![]()
what you will do if we kidnap afridi ??
we might get half of pakisthan![]()
what you will do if we kidnap afridi ??
we might get half of pakisthan![]()
I think you need to check out Hashim Amla's batting average.
Indian media is over-reacting.Everyone is entitled to their opinion.We all know where Sachin & Dravid stand,it hardly matters what a small time bowler says.
Indian media is over-reacting.Everyone is entitled to their opinion.We all know where Sachin & Dravid stand,it hardly matters what a small time bowler says.
what you will do if we kidnap afridi ??
we might get half of pakisthan![]()
SS you genious what if in response they kidnap Misblock ul Haq and demand Kashmir again![]()
That he is trying his best to clarify his stance on Sachin Tendulkar is proof that his observations on Sachin in the book may have been expressed differently. This only strengthens the claim that the book is geared to meet the needs of the market. In his interaction with me at his book launch in New Delhi, Shoaib went to great lengths to say that “on that particular day in Faislabad, Sachin may have been scared. That is not to suggest that Sachin was scared of me or he is not a great cricketer. I am only referring to that particular day.”
This, however, is not what comes out in the book, where he states, “I think players like Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid weren’t exactly match-winners to start with, nor did they know the art of finishing the game. I bowled (Sachin) a particularly fast ball which he, to my amazement, didn’t even touch. He walked away! That was the first time I saw him walk away from me - that, too, on the slow track at Faislabad. It got my hunting instincts up. In the next match, I hit him on the head, and he could not score after that.”
Waiting for an apology or backtracking on his opinion on Sachin and Dravid.
Indian media is over-reacting.Everyone is entitled to their opinion.We all know where Sachin & Dravid stand,it hardly matters what a small time bowler says.
our neighbours always envy sachin tendulkar including their cricketers..... their attempts are like spitting on the sun... Pakistanis including their cricketers always crying that sachin is not a match winner....
I remember.... who had started this? it is by Imran Khan... reason .... sachin and inzamam made their international debut at the same time... at that time imran predicted inzamam is better batsman that sachin... however, after 6-7 years sachin left inzy far behind.... it makes imran angry... In an interview to rediff.com in 2000, Imran was the 1st to say in jealousy that sachin is not match winner...... pakistanis and their players thinks that match winner is the player who throws his bat in air after scoring wining run, it doesn't matter to them if he scores 1,2,5 or 10 runs....
IMO matchwinner is a player whose contribution is big in winning his side..... that matchwinner gets man of the match award.... Sachin won MOM 62 times.... most in the world..
If sachin is not match winner, then i doubt there exist anyone!
So wearing a JUBBA, having a BEARED and praying 5 times a day means you are not well prepared,unfit and not energetic. Great!
Every pakistani bowler is high class for your bowler's sake. Learn to respect fast bowling if you wish that you have bowlers who genetically enhance from 70mph to 85mph+.
Small time bowler? he is better than ANY bowler your country of one billion has produced in its cricketing history
tsk tsk
Thats not what i said Our players focus was lost They were forced to pray There shouldve been no place for islamic lectures when they were together As cricketers their no 1 priority when they gt together shouldve been preparation and fitness geared towards winning cricket matches Not tableegh The disastrous 2007 WC campaign was a result of this
Yes,he is a small time player as compared to Sachin & Dravid.![]()
And I am entitled to my opinion.![]()
That's your opinion. You don't know about the truth nor do we. We can't just say it's because of this, resulted in poor WC 2007. WC 2007 wasn't belonged to us. We have to accept that it's Allaah's Will, and why? Because Pakistan didn't deserve to win WC 92, and WC T20 2009 either, but Pakistan miraculously made it to semi final, and especially during the Ramadan for WC 92. It was clear that Allaah (SWT) has laid out perfect setting for Pakistan to win both WC even though Pakistan didn't deserve to win both because of beginning of their disaster performance of both WC's.
Plus, it's because of Islamic activities, cricketers started to work hard, became proper disciplined, and behaved like Muslim at least (that's desperately needed in our cricketers because of their lack of discipline unfortunately), in comparable to England tour 2010 where most of our players were partying all night during the Test series. Meeting with bookers....etc.
No true Muslim will feel forced to pray because they are Muslim, and take Islam very seriously. The issues like partying, backbiting...etc, shows that we are not perfect, and some takes time to become proper Muslim, and some Muslim people embrace immediately.
Allaah (SWT) is The Most Merciful, Most Beneficent - That's we always begin with. You should also understand the word 'Merciful' and 'Most Beneficent'.
Since, you are blaming on Islamic activities for the Pakistan team performance. Why not add these; drug, backbiting, undermining, oath taking (strictly against Islam), spot fixing, match fixing, disrespecting coach, insulting someone on interview.....etc.
Yes,he is a small time player as compared to Sachin & Dravid.
And I am entitled to my opinion.![]()
Originally Posted by USIND
Yes,he is a small time player as compared to Sachin & Dravid.
And I am entitled to my opinion.
You wrote small time bowler. They are batsmen, do keep up.![]()
Plus, it's because of Islamic activities, cricketers started to work hard, became proper disciplined, and behaved like Muslim at least (that's desperately needed in our cricketers because of their lack of discipline unfortunately), in comparable to England tour 2010 where most of our players were partying all night during the Test series. Meeting with bookers....etc.
Please check again.![]()
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It's a cricket team. Religion should be kept seperate to cricket. Inzy and his anyone else should get on with their prayers without pressuring others to join in. They are paid to play cricket not do dawah to team mates. Akhtar has wrote he was threatned with beign dropped which is pathetic and harldy Islamic behaviour.
eh.. USIND you tricked KKWC![]()
I was referring to your ealier post. To help your poor memory
"Everyone is entitled to their opinion.We all know where Sachin & Dravid stand,it hardly matters what a small time bowler says. "
Just like the rest of India you don't know whether you are coming or going. Yorked by![]()
Seems like Akhtar has lit up a fire under Indians' ***'s!!
Cant wait to read this book!
Only one person has complained. The rest didn't, and perhaps, they wanted to pray. WC 2011 is where our team rumoured to have prayed Namaaz for the whole WC as well. That brought the best out of the team.
Just because they participate in Islamic activities, that doesn't mean they are not gonna concentrate on Cricket, fitness...etc. Why people get the impression that Islamic activities actually interfere their routine daily?
I would rather they stick with Islamic activities, rather than spot fixing, partying, hanging out with girls during the TOUR...etc.
Pakistan is an Islamic nation. The only way Pakistan will progress, not only as the nation, but also the team, is because of Sunnah. If we don't have support from Allaah (SWT), the nation along with the team will never succeed. We can't survive in today world without Allaah's support, and nor can Pakistan (surrounded by enemies anywhere).
How can we gain support from Allaah (SWT) in order to succeed? Follow the Islam, and Allaah's Laws. It's simple. Otherwise, it would be our fault, what 80's has repeated 90's, and then, 2000, and even, today with spot fixing. Islamic activities are only hope to prevent this dangerous disease now.
How can you trust Shoaib Akhtar in this case? Isn't the same man who has hit Asif with bat, took drug to defame the whole nation? Controversies, lack of discipline, lack of respect for the team and for the Chairman...etc are part of his life. Since, when he becomes trustworthy person now? I don't trust him.
Anyone could tell that what he is saying, actually encouraging more controversies to promote the book.
"Everyone is entitled to their opinion.We all know where Sachin & Dravid stand,it hardly matters what says" .
Only one person has complained. The rest didn't, and perhaps, they wanted to pray. WC 2011 is where our team rumoured to have prayed Namaaz for the whole WC as well. That brought the best out of the team.
Just because they participate in Islamic activities, that doesn't mean they are not gonna concentrate on Cricket, fitness...etc. Why people get the impression that Islamic activities actually interfere their routine daily?
I would rather they stick with Islamic activities, rather than spot fixing, partying, hanging out with girls during the TOUR...etc.
Pakistan is an Islamic nation. The only way Pakistan will progress, not only as the nation, but also the team, is because of Sunnah. If we don't have support from Allaah (SWT), the nation along with the team will never succeed. We can't survive in today world without Allaah's support, and nor can Pakistan (surrounded by enemies anywhere).
How can we gain support from Allaah (SWT) in order to succeed? Follow the Islam, and Allaah's Laws. It's simple. Otherwise, it would be our fault, what 80's has repeated 90's, and then, 2000, and even, today with spot fixing. Islamic activities are only hope to prevent this dangerous disease now.
How can you trust Shoaib Akhtar in this case? Isn't the same man who has hit Asif with bat, took drug to defame the whole nation? Controversies, lack of discipline, lack of respect for the team and for the Chairman...etc are part of his life. Since, when he becomes trustworthy person now? I don't trust him.
Anyone could tell that what he is saying, actually encouraging more controversies to promote the book.
I know what you meant but was just correcting you. Never mind. You call him a small time bowler, what does this make your bowlers? Think about it.
I know what you meant but was just correcting you. Never mind. You call him a small time bowler, what does this make your bowlers? Think about it.
Our bowlers utilize their credentials to best.Atleast,they're not brats & full of controversies & they don't point finger at others to hide their own short-comings.Akhtar,being so talented,was of no use when required the most (World Cup).
This is just my opinion.![]()
Our bowlers utilize their credentials to best.Atleast,they're not brats & full of controversies & they don't point finger at others to hide their own short-comings.Akhtar,being so talented,was of no use when required the most (World Cup).
This is just my opinion.![]()