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Indians need to realise that their masses are just like any other human being in the world and are prone to this virus. There is nothing to be proud of even if the “numbers” are low.
 
I really hope poor people don't get this disease. it's been brought to India by rich people and I don't really care if they die or not.
 
Whatever they are doing with other patients, in short getting more covid positive patient is better than getting after 14 days when they have infected others also
 
Whatever they are doing with other patients, in short getting more covid positive patient is better than getting after 14 days when they have infected others also
Care to explain what “they” are doing?
Your post seems to be all over the place and doesn’t explain what you wrote in your earlier post.
 
One way to look at the government numbers is by checking the fatality percentage and see how that compares with the world mean when countries have tested extensively eg: Germany has a fatality rate of 0.5 while South Korea is near 1.5%

India atm is near 3%. Assuming the worst case we probably have 5X undetected cases in the country. The current numbers are not huge, but if they remain undetected we may have a catastrophe on our hands.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">VIDEO: India's city of Guwahati is turning its trains into isolation wards for positive COVID-19 cases and an indoor stadium into a quarantine centre for suspected cases as it prepares for the coronavirus pandemic. India has so far recorded 873 cases <a href="https://t.co/qNk5lJ0tI1">pic.twitter.com/qNk5lJ0tI1</a></p>— AFP news agency (@AFP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1244544281886494720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2020</a></blockquote>
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One way to look at the government numbers is by checking the fatality percentage and see how that compares with the world mean when countries have tested extensively eg: Germany has a fatality rate of 0.5 while South Korea is near 1.5%

India atm is near 3%. Assuming the worst case we probably have 5X undetected cases in the country. The current numbers are not huge, but if they remain undetected we may have a catastrophe on our hands.

This is indeed fine as long as the fatality rate is reported accurately.
Not sure about the voracity of The Print report posted earlier in this thread but this excerpt is concerning:

You have to be really naive to believe India’s official numbers of coronavirus patients — and then there are those who have died of sudden pneumonia without being tested or counted as coronavirus deaths.
 
Personal protection equipment (PPE) kits are used by medical personnel working in isolation areas and intensive care units to protect them from acquiring infections. They were not being manufactured in the country. With the prospect of huge requirement of PPEs arising in the near future, the Government of India made proactive efforts to promote their manufacturing in the country.

Ministry of Textiles and Ministry of Health and Family Welfare have been working together in this endeavour. Domestic manufacturers rose to the occasion and so far 11 manufacturers have cleared quality tests. Orders for 21 lakh PPE coveralls have been placed on them. Currently they are supplying 6-7,000 coveralls per day and this is expected to go up to 15,000 per day within the next week. One more manufacturer has qualified today and an order of 5 lakh coveralls has been placed with him.
 
Stones pelted at cops in Solapur. A complaint has been registered against 100 villagers.
 
The Centre has asked several automobile manufactures to manufacture ventilators in order to be used at hospitals treating coronavirus patients.

State-owned Bharat Electronics Ltd has been asked to manufacture 30,000 ventilators in the next two months and Noida-based firm Agva Healthcare has been given an order by the government to manufacture 10,000 ventilators within a month.
 
Wow... I just bumped on this video. This 14 year old kid predicted this to happen in August last year.

Instead of merely “bumping” into the video maybe you should have started watching it!!
I watched the first 3-4 minutes and the young lad mentioned tensions in nations to the North West of India, specifically Iran, Pakistan & Afghanistan.
Please tell him the virus spread from the East and is a global phenomenon now.
 
This is indeed fine as long as the fatality rate is reported accurately.
Not sure about the voracity of The Print report posted earlier in this thread but this excerpt is concerning:

Frankly I don’t believe opinion pieces unless they provide evidence to back their claims. News media is sold out on both sides of the political spectrum in India so believing any one blindly is foolhardy
 
In God’s own country (Kerala), 1 died of Covid-19 but 7 commit suicide after alcohol ban

ERNAKULAM: The alcohol ban in Kerala seems to be killing more people than the virus itself in the state, which has one of India’s highest per capita liquor consumption. The state, like the rest of India, has been forced to go dry in the wake of the ongoing 21-day nationwide lockdown.

In the past week, seven people committed suicide out of depression over not being able to buy alcohol in Kerala, while the virus has resulted in one casualty so far.

On Saturday alone, two people committed suicide in Kerala’s Kollam, another person killed himself in Kannur, two suicide attempts were made in Malappuram and a 35-year old was transferred to a de-addiction center after he turned violent in Kottayam district, according to various reports. The state has an estimated 1.6 million liquor addicts.

To be sure, the state saw this coming.

Despite a popular backlash, Kerala held out for weeks without taking a decision, before finally shutting down bars and state-licensed beverage outlets last week. When questioned, chief minister Pinarayi Vijayan had cited the social problems an alcohol ban would create as a reason for not shutting not down bars.

His fears may have come true. The state’s hospitals and frontline health and community workers— already burdened by the coronavirus scare— are overwhelmed by families approaching for help because of withdrawal symptoms of alcoholics, forcing the state to issue a set of guidelines to control the situation.

The guidelines have asked primary health centres to manage the bulk of the withdrawal symptoms, so that bigger medical colleges are not burdened with such cases. The government has asked every district hospital to ready 10 to 20 beds for patients seeking de-addiction, according to Kiran PS, the nodal officer for the state’s mental health programme.

After the alcohol ban, the 14405 toll free number of Kerala’s Excise department’s de-addiction programme called ‘Vimukthi’ is flooded with distress calls until, at times, as early as 4am. Mental health specialists working in the call centres recounted cases as strange as someone hallucinating about a child buried in his courtyard, or refusing to accept their own house.

Some were plainly screaming, they said, that they will die if refused alcohol anymore. Also, there is a spike in people trying to get drugs sometimes used to treat alcohol addiction or induce alcohol-like effects, said PV Tomy, Ernakulam district president of All Kerala Chemists and Druggists Association.

Flooded with the distress, Vijayan on Saturday said the state will provide liquor to the addicts if their doctors prescribe so. Local reports say de-addiction centers are also seeing a spike.

Source: https://www.livemint.com/news/india...suicide-after-alcohol-ban-11585483376504.html
 
In God’s own country (Kerala), 1 died of Covid-19 but 7 commit suicide after alcohol ban

ERNAKULAM: The alcohol ban in Kerala seems to be killing more people than the virus itself in the state, which has one of India’s highest per capita liquor consumption. The state, like the rest of India, has been forced to go dry in the wake of the ongoing 21-day nationwide lockdown.

In the past week, seven people committed suicide out of depression over not being able to buy alcohol in Kerala, while the virus has resulted in one casualty so far.

On Saturday alone, two people committed suicide in Kerala’s Kollam, another person killed himself in Kannur, two suicide attempts were made in Malappuram and a 35-year old was transferred to a de-addiction center after he turned violent in Kottayam district, according to various reports. The state has an estimated 1.6 million liquor addicts.

To be sure, the state saw this coming.

Despite a popular backlash, Kerala held out for weeks without taking a decision, before finally shutting down bars and state-licensed beverage outlets last week. When questioned, chief minister Pinarayi Vijayan had cited the social problems an alcohol ban would create as a reason for not shutting not down bars.

His fears may have come true. The state’s hospitals and frontline health and community workers— already burdened by the coronavirus scare— are overwhelmed by families approaching for help because of withdrawal symptoms of alcoholics, forcing the state to issue a set of guidelines to control the situation.

The guidelines have asked primary health centres to manage the bulk of the withdrawal symptoms, so that bigger medical colleges are not burdened with such cases. The government has asked every district hospital to ready 10 to 20 beds for patients seeking de-addiction, according to Kiran PS, the nodal officer for the state’s mental health programme.

After the alcohol ban, the 14405 toll free number of Kerala’s Excise department’s de-addiction programme called ‘Vimukthi’ is flooded with distress calls until, at times, as early as 4am. Mental health specialists working in the call centres recounted cases as strange as someone hallucinating about a child buried in his courtyard, or refusing to accept their own house.

Some were plainly screaming, they said, that they will die if refused alcohol anymore. Also, there is a spike in people trying to get drugs sometimes used to treat alcohol addiction or induce alcohol-like effects, said PV Tomy, Ernakulam district president of All Kerala Chemists and Druggists Association.

Flooded with the distress, Vijayan on Saturday said the state will provide liquor to the addicts if their doctors prescribe so. Local reports say de-addiction centers are also seeing a spike.

Source: https://www.livemint.com/news/india...suicide-after-alcohol-ban-11585483376504.html

[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] as we predicted number of alcoholics committing suicide will be higher than corona casualties
 
Care to explain what “they” are doing?
Your post seems to be all over the place and doesn’t explain what you wrote in your earlier post.

How can I know what doctors are doing or how they are treating patients, you should ask somebody like [MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] for detail information about patient, if I am not wrong she is doctor
 
How can I know what doctors are doing or how they are treating patients, you should ask somebody like [MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] for detail information about patient, if I am not wrong she is doctor
I don’t need to ask any doctor because as far as I am aware there is no available treatment for this virus. I asked you specifically because you are posting half-baked theories on how to counter this illness with treatment.
In future I know to take your posts with a sackful of salt.
 
I don’t need to ask any doctor because as far as I am aware there is no available treatment for this virus. I asked you specifically because you are posting half-baked theories on how to counter this illness with treatment.
In future I know to take your posts with a sackful of salt.
I know there is no treatment but when people says doctors are treating covid positive patients means whatever observation they are doing or how they are looking after patient , I don't care how you take my post, I don't write for u, you can put me on ignore list when ever you want.
 
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India's COVID-19 lockdown hits HIV+ and chronic patients hard

On the morning of March 26, the third day of lockdown in India's capital over coronavirus fears, 15-year-old Himanshu's mother tried to board a state-run bus to collect her son's medicines for HIV from a government-run hospital.

It was her scheduled day to pick up the monthly anti-retroviral therapy (ART) drugs, the HIV-suppressing drug that has to be taken lifelong, provided free of charge to patients registered with government hospitals.

But with strict travel restrictions in place, the conductor did not allow her on the government-run bus, despite her furnishing the "green book" provided by the Kalawati Saran Children's hospital located in central New Delhi's Gole Market area.

Himanshu's father volunteered to go by bicycle to pick up the drugs instead, but a policeman stopped him and turned him back, as well.

"Sometimes, the Delhi police see your hospital book and let you go. But sometimes, they will see the word HIV and chase you," says Loon Gangte, co-ordinator of the Delhi Network of Positive People - a collective that works for people living with HIV.

"It is the term HIV. They think we are all sex workers and drug addicts. Yesterday [March 25], police beat up one of our outreach workers who was trying to organise. There is still prejudice even though it is now against the law to discriminate against persons with HIV."

HIV-positive people

India is believed to be home to the third-largest population of HIV-positive people in the world. There are 21.4 million Indians living with HIV, according to the National Aids Control Organisation data in 2017.

The Indian government provides ART to all HIV+ people registered in government hospitals, most of whom are overwhelmingly the poor and rely on public transport.

But public transport across the country, including metro rails, taxis as well as buses, have been banned as Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi imposed a lockdown on Wednesday and urged people to maintain social distancing to prevent the spread of coronavirus that has killed more than 30,000 people worldwide.

The move seems to be taking a toll on the HIV-positive people along with other patients with chronic conditions.

The government clarified that people would be allowed to go out for essential supplies, including groceries and medicines, without being asked for documentation to prove the nature of their trip.

Many patients, who live in smaller towns or rural areas but are registered with the government hospitals in cities are finding it difficult to travel amid the ban on public transport. Many were forced to use private transport, such as cycles or motorbikes to travel.

Himanshu's parents, who live in a working-class neighbourhood of Jahangirpuri in New Delhi, eventually walked to the hospital and walked back home, 19km (11.8 miles) on foot each way.

"I have applied to the police for a traffic permit. I want to be able to reach them on my bike when the police stops anyone," Gangte said.

"But the lines at the police station are so long, the first day it was almost two kilometres (1.25 miles) long. I came away because I am already immune-compromised; HIV itself means immunity deficiency. But when my outreach worker was beaten, I decided to brave the crowds to apply for the permit."

Lack of planning

Critics have accused the government of imposing the lockdown for 1.3 billion people without proper planning.

Over the past week, social media has been full of imagery and stories of policemen beating up vendors, smashing shops, deflating the tyres of vendor carts. In one striking photograph, a policeman is beating a person with a lathi while speaking on the phone.

Tens of thousands of migrant workers have been stranded in cities following the shutdown of businesses and factories, with many walking hundreds of kilometres to reach their homes amid lack of transport.

Modi addressed the nation twice in the past 10 days but failed to spell out specifics of how people are to manage their essential needs during the 21-day lockdown period, in particular, people with special needs and chronic conditions, who need regular access to medicines, diagnostic tests and other healthcare.

A government circular listing released after PM's speech last Tuesday failed to mention support services for chronic patients. There were no directives on the vast numbers of health personnel who work in small concerns or provide home services and lack company ID cards.

What has followed is confusion, delays and anxiety.

Mary Lama* (name changed), an HIV-positive patient diagnosed with cancer of the tongue, has been advised a number of tests before her surgery initially scheduled for early April.

This week, she received an SMS informing her that her MRI appointment was delayed minutes before she was about to leave home for it. Her calls to the laboratory received a standardised response that all tests were delayed by the lockdown.

"I am unable to contact her doctors at the hospital to tell them about the tests, and the treatment is also delayed," said Naresh Lama, Mary's husband.

"Will the cancer not spread without treatment?" There are 1.6 million living with cancer as of 2018, according to Indian government data.

Auto-immune and rare conditions

Karishma Khemlani, who describes herself on her Twitter as a person with 17 incurable conditions, is used to planning ahead because she cannot afford to take chances.

It is a preparedness for crises developed over 17 years of living with auto-immune and rare conditions. A week before the Janta Curfew (public curfew last Sunday), she placed an order for her immunosuppressant drug CellCept at her local pharmacy. These drugs are specialised, lifesaving and rarely available without order. But as March 22 drew near, her pharmacy and all the pharmacies in her locality in Andheri, Mumbai, was unable to deliver the drug.

Khemlani is an enterprising social media activist and a tweet about running out of medicines was retweeted several times. Eventually, a journalist with a press pass scoured the city, and secured supplies for her.

There is little data available on patients with rare, chronic conditions like Khemlani's. The government estimate relies on a global statistic - 6 to 8 percent of the population has rare diseases - the population of 1.3 billion A sudden lockdown like this may have left many without stocks of their hard-to-source medication.

In other places, drugs are available, but transport is not. An official of the pharmaceutical giant Novartis, who did not want to be identified, said immunosuppressants are available at their centre in the eastern city of Kolkata, but patients have to travel to collect medicine that their agents and courier companies would normally have delivered.

Immunosuppressants are a lifeline for organ transplant patients. India maintains no national organ transplant registry, and data is, therefore, based on projections.

The government's own undated estimate is that 6,000 kidney, 1,500 liver and 25,000 corneal transplants are performed annually, in addition to much smaller numbers of heart and lung transplants. All transplant patients require immunosuppressants to ensure their bodies do not reject the transplanted organs.

"We could quickly be facing a non-COVID humanitarian crisis if the government fails to act to restore health services, particularly for those with critical conditions that require sustained medication/treatment," said Malini Aisola, public health activist and co-convenor of the All India Drug Action Network.

"Measures can be put in place, such as stringent infection control protocols and triaging systems, to make the necessary care available. As sound public health policy, the government should be concerned with meeting needs of special groups because they are in fact more vulnerable and risk worse outcomes in the event of COVID-19 infection due to lower immunity and preexisting conditions. Unfortunately, from the stories emerging, the government seems to be lurching from crisis to unfolding disaster."

Kidney transplant patients

The stories of kidney transplant candidates dealing with exhausting trips to hospital for their weekly dialysis appointments have been reported from Mumbai and the southern city of Chennai.

Sejal Jobanputra, a chronic kidney disease patient who lives in Kandivali in Mumbai city, said her Whatsapp group of kidney patients all spoke of long strenuous, and sometimes harassed, trips to hospital as some policemen did not understand why they were travelling, even after they showed their hospital records. Other policemen, however, were helpful.

"I realised I am lucky among them because my hospital is also in Kandivali," said Jobanputra, over a chat on Whatsapp. A phone conversation was not possible because she suffers from hearing impairment.

"But it is exhausting for me to stand for even 10 minutes. Policemen kept directing me to the bus-stand, but it is physically impossible. I went back home, and rescheduled my appointment. My family will drop me to hospital."

India has 34 million patients in need of dialysis as of 2018, according to the national dialysis registry, with 220,000 patients added every year.

Although age is not a chronic disease, the elderly are also left vulnerable in the lockdown. There is no government data available, but an estimate by the home healthcare service venture Medwell suggested that India has the second-largest geriatric population in the world, numbering 104 million.

Medwell defined geriatric as those over the age of 60, and estimated home healthcare services to be $1.5bn market in India, mainly providing care for chronic conditions at home.

Home healthcare workers have been severely affected by the closure of transport services, especially as they often do not possess company identification cards stating they are health workers.

This leaves many of the elderly, who live alone and are sick, without essential support.

Even those who live with family face the real possibility of dying without medical help.

On Thursday, journalist Joanna Lobo tweeted to the chief minister of Goa state about her grandmother, Lourdes Lobo, in the village of Camurlim, who is 111 years old.

She had taken a turn for the worse during the previous weekend as the state went into lockdown.

No doorstep medical assistance was available, no grocery stores were open, and her parents who live nearby were unable to step out of their homes. The family increasingly prepared for the traumatic possibility that the old lady might pass away at home without any assistance.

"At least my aunts are with gran," said Lobo. "There are octogenarians who live alone in our village. I wonder how it is for them."

The special secretary in the Delhi government's health and family welfare department, the principal secretary of the country's health and family welfare department and the National Aids Control Organisation did not respond to emails before the time of the publication of this article.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...iv-chronic-patients-hard-200329200022525.html
 
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] as we predicted number of alcoholics committing suicide will be higher than corona casualties

It was a politically motivated decision initially the govt chose not to close it because it anticipated these consequences but when the central govt published the essential services list and beverages were not in the list ,they had to close down. Some alternatives should be there to provide alcohol for those susceptible to withdrawal. 10-15% of our population are alcoholics. I sincerely think some practical guidelines will follow or else situation is going to be worse,both for public and us doctors. I know what i am saying is not scientifically correct, but what can be done right now to prevent a disaster like this? Brace yourself for a vyajamadyadurantham now.
 
How close are we to a vaccine? I saw one news story which read that a hospital in the States was trying a blood transfusion from a coronavirus recovered patient into a currently infected patient to see how effective the anti-bodies are.

Tbh, we are trying to do this in Kerala. We have assigned a specific team of transfusion medicine doctors and haematologist to develop this convalescent sera from the recovered patients in Trivandrum.Kerala Govt is also supporting us so hopefully we will get positive results asap.:)
 
Coronavirus: In Bareilly, migrants returning home sprayed with 'disinfectant'

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Migrant labourers returning to their homes from cities were forced by the administration in Bareilly to take an open bath in groups with disinfectant before they were allowed entry into the district.

As per a footage of the incident, a group of migrants, including women, were seen squatting on the road near a checkpoint in Bareilly as officials in full protection gear spray a solution through a hose pipe on them. The migrants are not only clothed but also have their luggage strapped onto their bodies even as they get drenched. While at least two officials film the incident, one of them can be heard asking the migrants to keep their eyes closed.

In Bareilly, migrants given bath with sanitiser on the road




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A screen grab of healthcare workers bathing migrants before entering the town of Bareilly on Monday.
A screen grab of healthcare workers bathing migrants before entering the town of Bareilly on Monday. | Photo Credit: Special Arrangement
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It's more important to save them...getting wet does not mean much, says nodal officer in-charge of COVID-19 in Bareilly
Migrant labourers returning to their homes from cities were forced by the administration in Bareilly to take an open bath in groups with disinfectant before they were allowed entry into the district.

As per a footage of the incident, a group of migrants, including women, were seen squatting on the road near a checkpoint in Bareilly as officials in full protection gear spray a solution through a hose pipe on them. The migrants are not only clothed but also have their luggage strapped onto their bodies even as they get drenched. While at least two officials film the incident, one of them can be heard asking the migrants to keep their eyes closed.

In Bareilly, migrants given bath with sanitiser on the road


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The nodal officer in-charge of COVID-19 in Bareilly, Ashok Gautam, confirmed that the administration did bathe the migrants with disinfectant, chlorine mixed with water, but clarified it was not a chemical solution.

Mr. Gautam said the administration had resorted to spraying the migrants with the disinfectants after the huge rush of incoming migrants who arrived in special buses run by the government. “We tried to keep them safe, asked them to shut their eyes,” he said.

Mr. Gautam also justified the step, saying it was necessary to eradicate the possible spread of the disease.

“It's natural they will get wet. It was out attempt to get the clothes wet as it would be better so that whatever signs of virus possibly on it (clothes) will get destroyed,” Mr. Gautam told The Hindu.

“It's more important to save them...getting wet does not mean much,” he said.

The official also said the bathing of migrants would not happen again as their rush into the district had stopped.

Ashutosh Parashari, Medical Officer, Bareilly, said sodium hypochlorite solution was sprayed on the migrants. Sodium hypochlorite is commonly used as a disinfectant. "It does not have such hazards...that's why it was used," he said.

Sodium hypochlorite used on migrants?
Chief Fire Officer, Chandra Mohan Sharma, said sodium hypochlorite was used to sanitize places in the districts, including the bus stand where the migrants were given a bathe. The bus station was sanitized because it had seen big crowds of migrants over the past two-three days, said the official, while admitting that the sodium hypochlorite was harmful for human bodies.

"Because it has chemicals, it is strictly prohibited to spray on human bodies. We have directions to spray it on non-living things like metal surfaces, cardboards and closed walls," he said when asked by reporters if the solution could be sprayed on the humans.


"The chemical is hazardous. It has its own properties, naturally it can cause harm but until it comes in direct contact with human ears or eyes," he said.


Mr. Sharma said he was probing the incident but claimed prima facie that the chemical was not used on the migrants, even as footage showed that the migrants were made to squat and instructed to close their eyes before being sprayed with the disinfectant.

The migrants may have inadvertently exposed to the fog of the chemical but didn't come in direct contact, he said, adding that the migrants may have reached the fogging site while they were waiting for a bus or moving past it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...-open-with-sanitiser/article31204430.ece/amp/
 
Didn’t know asking for an ambulance to cross the border so that the patient gets care an “early care” is equal to being a lowlife.

I clearly said , its not about that one off issue . I was talking about the media
 
People who are now coming to karnataka for treatment are from border areas, some of them are permanent residents of karnataka, the hospitals in karnataka are easily accessible for most of them.

its not just from border areas , its cos Mangalore and Manipal has better medical facilities than any city in Kerala
 
Divided Delhi under lockdown: 'If coronavirus doesn't kill me, hunger will'

India’s shutdown is catastrophic for Muslims driven from their homes by sectarian carnage and now without food or shelter.

It wasn’t possible for Mohammed Idrish to watch Narendra Modi’s address to the nation last Tuesday exhorting 1.3 billion Indians to stay at home. His TV was looted along with everything else in his home in Delhi during the recent anti-Muslim riots in the Indian capital.

When Idrish, a carpenter, heard about Modi urging Indians to stay at home to stop coronavirus spreading, he shook his head again and again. “I don’t understand … I don’t understand. Doesn’t he know we have no home?”

On 25 February, his house in Shiv Vihar was among many reduced to a charred ruin by mobs. The ferocious violence that engulfed the north-east of the city for four days – mostly Hindu mobs killing Muslims and destroying property – left 53 dead and thousands injured.

Families ran with only the clothes they were wearing and mobile phones in their pockets. Hundreds were housed in the Eidgah relief camp, a collection of tents set up in the courtyard of a mosque in Mustafabad.

The camp was a temporary home for Idrish, his parents, wife and four children. It gave them shelter and safety while they waited for compensation to renovate their home. But on Monday the Delhi authorities ordered families to leave the crowded camp for fear it provided the ideal conditions for a perfect viral storm.

The camp’s days were numbered even before Modi imposed an unprecedented nationwide lockdown last week, as Delhi had already banned any gathering of more than 30 people.

“From fire burning my home to a camp, I am now being thrown out of a tent because of the coronavirus. I don’t understand. They have told me to leave and go and rent a room but what do I pay the landlord?” said Idrish.

The Delhi government says it is giving all the families some rations and 3,000 rupees (£33 ), the minimum rent for a small room. This leaves no additional money for food. Most landlords also demand a month’s deposit. Some families have received rations, others have received money, some have received both, and others neither.

Idrish was given lentils, sugar and rice, and told to leave. After scouring the alleyways around the camp, he found a landlord who agreed to let the family stay in one room for two or three days. “I don’t know what I will do in a few days. He will want rent naturally but I don’t have anything. I lost everything. I am desperate to work to feed my family, I want to work, but with the lockdown, I can’t even work,” he said.

The lockdown is catastrophic for the poor in India who live from day to day. Drivers, maids, auto-rickshaw drivers, carpenters, electricians, plumbers, artisans and street vendors buy lentils or vegetables to feed their families from the day’s earnings. There are no reserves, well-stocked freezers, or anything saved for a rainy day. As one daily wage labourer said: “If the coronavirus doesn’t kill me, hunger will.”

For the Muslims whose lives have been devastated by the riots, all of this applies, but worse. With no homes, the Eidgah camp was their main sanctuary, unless they could depend on the charity of relatives who put them up. Many are grieving for loved ones who were beaten to death, lynched or set on fire. The pain of losing a home is still fresh. Now the coronavirus is battering them all over again.

“My wife snorted with anger when she heard Modi telling us all to stay at home. Our house was torched. Nothing, not even a clothes hook was left untouched by the fire. Only the walls are left. What home is Modi talking about?” said Abdul Satter, a welder.

He would like to return to start cleaning up his house in Purana Gaon, a village near Khajuri Khas, Delhi, but he and his wife, Mehtab, fear further violence from their Hindu neighbours. “All I have is the blanket I grabbed after my son called us saying a mob was coming and told us to run as fast as we could. I thought the blanket would at least cover my children if we had to sleep on the street,” said Mehtab.

Mehtab said she understood the need to take drastic measures to protect people. Delhi has had 30 coronavirus cases and one death. The Eidgah camp – packed with families in unsanitary conditions – is a potential disaster area, she concedes.

What she doesn’t understand, however, is where the government expects people like her to go. While some families have received compensation, many others are still waiting for their claims to be processed by the Delhi government.

“If we had got compensation, we could at least have started repairing our homes. I got 25,000 rupees (£257) for my family’s immediate needs but there are 18 of us who live together and that money is almost finished. You tell me, where should I go? Where?” said Mehtab.

By Wednesday, with the tents coming down, she and her family had divided themselves among four relatives in the city. With the lockdown in force, they will not be able to see each other for three weeks.

A short distance away, Chandu Nagar, Delhi, has become a refugee colony for riot victims. Some of the Muslim families here have opened their homes to complete strangers. Since a mob burned their two-storey home in Shiv Vihar, Mumtaz Taufir has lived in a rented room measuring 10 x 10ft with his parents, four brothers and their wives.

Taufir watched Modi’s address in his landlord’s living room. “I wanted to tell him we have become beggars overnight and don’t even know what the word home means. If we had a home, we’d be happy to stay in it. But it’s gone,” he said.

What’s equally worrying for him is that the Delhi government’s attention will be focused exclusively on fighting the coronavirus for some time. “It means it will take us even longer to get compensation,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-...own-if-coronavirus-doesnt-kill-me-hunger-will
 
its not just from border areas , its cos Mangalore and Manipal has better medical facilities than any city in Kerala
Go through my post again, people who are now heavily dependent on hospitals in case of emergency on mangalore hospitals are those who living in border areas.
 
Also there are many hospitals in northern kerala with good facilities so dependency on karnataka hospitals except manipal for some specialised treatments is reducing
 
500+ Muslims from all over India gathered in #Nizamuddin mosque to offer prayers. Some of them are suspected to have symptoms of Corona.
What the **** they doing
 
Kerala has now surpassed Maharashtra in the total number of active cases

I am actually proud of that number. Because we are detecting Covid + in the early stage itself and thereby reducing ARDS and death.
 
Go through my post again, people who are now heavily dependent on hospitals in case of emergency on mangalore hospitals are those who living in border areas.

I was not complaining about people from Kerala accessing these Hospitals , I dont even believe in these borders between states . The current situation is not ordinary , you cant blame Karnataka for thinking about its people .
 
It’s not a point scoring exercise

I didn’t mean it as a point scoring exercise instead general public (esp in Kerala) is worried about the increase in cases here even after this much precaution. But the truth is we are detecting them early so it’s good as of now.
 
A total of 174 possibly infected #COVID19 patients have been admitted at Lok Nayak Hospital, of which 163 patients are from Nizamuddin. 85 patients came yesterday while 34 were admitted today. We have made all arrangements for them: Senior Official, Lok Nayak Hospital, Delhi
Sharam to ati ni h inko ,namaj padna jaruri h na. idiots
 
I didn’t mean it as a point scoring exercise instead general public (esp in Kerala) is worried about the increase in cases here even after this much precaution. But the truth is we are detecting them early so it’s good as of now.

Ok I read it incorrectly as gloating about the death rate
 
The Hero Group has pledged Rs 100 crores as aid for the ongoing #COVID19 relief-efforts in India. Half of this sum, Rs 50 crores, will be contributed to the PM-Cares Fund and the remaining Rs 50 crore will be spent in other relief efforts.
 
Tbh, we are trying to do this in Kerala. We have assigned a specific team of transfusion medicine doctors and haematologist to develop this convalescent sera from the recovered patients in Trivandrum.Kerala Govt is also supporting us so hopefully we will get positive results asap.:)

That's great! I really hope how the Nipah virus was eradicated quickly same is the case with corona. Though corona doesn't seem that deadly but is more contagious which makes it hard to stop.
 
Delhi Government to ask police to register FIR against Maulana of Markaz, Nizamuddin: Delhi Govt

Around 300-400 people had attended a religious gathering at Markaz & 163 people from Nizamuddin, likely to be infected with #COVID19, have been admitted to Lok Nayak Hospital, Delhi.
 
500+ Muslims from all over India gathered in #Nizamuddin mosque to offer prayers. Some of them are suspected to have symptoms of Corona.
What the **** they doing

ohh my god
You are right, tow people died today in Vijayawada, AP who attended prayers in that mosque and remaining family members tested positive.

Estimated total 200 people infected, now government started identifying all.

Over 500 attend religious event.
7 now #Covid19 positive.
4 who attended event (from J&K,AP & TN) later died.
34 showed symptoms yest, quarantined.
150 show symptoms today, quarantined.
 
looks like this is going to be very big.

Delhi: Dozens of coronavirus cases across the country traced to Tablighi Jamat Mosque in Nizamuddin, hundreds in hospital, 2000 quarantined, area sealed off.
About 300 people are suspected to have been infected by the Corona Virus while attending a religious gathering at a mosque in Nizamuddin.
 
Seems as if the supporters of a certain party are rejoicing at the fact that corona might be spreading through the Muslim community, they can't seem to hide their glee.
 
500+ Muslims from all over India gathered in #Nizamuddin mosque to offer prayers. Some of them are suspected to have symptoms of Corona.
What the **** they doing

Delhi licked

A total of 174 possibly infected #COVID19 patients have been admitted at Lok Nayak Hospital, of which 163 patients are from Nizamuddin. 85 patients came yesterday while 34 were admitted today. We have made all arrangements for them: Senior Official, Lok Nayak Hospital, Delhi
Sharam to ati ni h inko ,namaj padna jaruri h na. idiots

Delhi Government to ask police to register FIR against Maulana of Markaz, Nizamuddin: Delhi Govt

Around 300-400 people had attended a religious gathering at Markaz & 163 people from Nizamuddin, likely to be infected with #COVID19, have been admitted to Lok Nayak Hospital, Delhi.

The gathering was earlier this month before the lockdown and before the government had issued any protocol regarding mass gatherings at mosques, gurdwaras, churches or mandirs.
Stop spreading lies because you don’t have the ability to disseminate information correctly
 
BREAKING:

169 Corona positive cases so far TODAY - the most in a day in India!

Last 4 days have been very alarming:
March 27 - 151 cases
March 28 - 143 cases
March 29 - 110 cases
March 30 - 169* cases

Total cases now cross 1300!
 
The gathering was earlier this month before the lockdown and before the government had issued any protocol regarding mass gatherings at mosques, gurdwaras, churches or mandirs.
Stop spreading lies because you don’t have the ability to disseminate information correctly

Did anyone here mentioned before lockdown?
You better stop creating non sense.
 
More than 200 positive #Corona cases have been found in Kerala and Maharashtra.

Over 35% of India’s cases have been reported from these two states.

Less than 100 cases in each of the other states so far.
 
BREAKING:

169 Corona positive cases so far TODAY - the most in a day in India!

Last 4 days have been very alarming:
March 27 - 151 cases
March 28 - 143 cases
March 29 - 110 cases
March 30 - 169* cases

Total cases now cross 1300!

It'll go up for a while. I hope, the upward curve doesn't become too steep. It'll be futile to think these numbers will be less than previous days at this moment.
 
It'll go up for a while. I hope, the upward curve doesn't become too steep. It'll be futile to think these numbers will be less than previous days at this moment.

yes, its going up


Total - 1315
New - 176
Active - 1145
Recovered - 136
Dead - 34
 
Maybe you need to read what was posted. I’ll repost it for your benefit

Do you understand now or do I need to spell it out for you, Einstein?

you need to read carefully, no one didn't mentioned the time lines.
We are just updating latest list and source of contamination.
 
BREAKING:

169 Corona positive cases so far TODAY - the most in a day in India!

Last 4 days have been very alarming:
March 27 - 151 cases
March 28 - 143 cases
March 29 - 110 cases
March 30 - 169* cases

Total cases now cross 1300!

Heard nearly 40 recovered and discharged in Maharashtra today . So that’s good news
 
Seems as if the supporters of a certain party are rejoicing at the fact that corona might be spreading through the Muslim community, they can't seem to hide their glee.

Is Tableeghi Jamaat same all over the world?

Read that they violated gathering laws in Pakistan. Now they have done it in Delhi and Tamil Nadu.

If corona spreads through Muslim community, it will hit others as well. Nothing to be happy about it. Everyone needs to be protected and everyone needs to learn and respect the law .

We are all in this together. Every community, every nation.

We can fight over our issues later. Right now we need to fight together.
 
Back from the dead

But even in the midst of rising cases, Kerala recorded a major triumph. An old couple, who had been in critical condition ever since they we admitted to Kottayam Medical College on March 9, have fully recovered. Thomas (93) and Mariamma (86) were the parents of the Ranni native who had returned from Italy on February 29 and set fire to the post-Wuhan COVID-19 phase in Kerala.

Initially, the couple were admitted to the Pathanamthitta General Hospital but with their health worsening they were urgently shifted to Kottayam Medical College. Thomas had a heart condition and soon enough he developed respiratory problems. His oxygen levels plummeted to alarming levels and he had to be put on ventilator, and within 24 hours he suffered a heart attack.

Mariamma, on her part, had urinary problems and she also contracted a severe bacterial infection to go with the sevre virus attack. It was four days ago that Thomas was taken off the ventilator.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/englis...-kerala-pinarayi-vijayan-daily-cases.amp.html
 
you need to read carefully, no one didn't mentioned the time lines.
We are just updating latest list and source of contamination.

I mentioned the time line because your compatriot tried to infer this happened recently. Hence my exposure of his comment regarding the need to make pray.
A comment that is both ill conceived and wholly incendiary given the religious gatherings took place before the lockdown and before the government issued any protocol around mass gatherings.
The only person trying to create “nonsense” here is the douche you’re trying to cover for.
 
I'll pray that as less positive cases should come out those 2000 quarantined in delhi. Also let's pray that the positive ppl recover soon.The positive news is slowly but surely ppl r recovering as we have 137 recovered with nearly 1100 active cases (indians).

This virus may have been brought by foreigners who visited this religious gathering.

But I believe central govt should have screened/quarantined passengers from middle east in first week of march. They screened/quarantined only ppl cmg from china & europe etc,. & avoided these gulf country passengers.

Let's hope & pray that people recover soon
 
People here and on Twitter are posting as if
This happened 2 days ago

This gathering happened before lockdown just like many other gatherings in India. Some of these muslim haters are trying to prove that only muslims are breaking rules in India. They are forgetting that 2 days ago thousands of people gathered at Delhi UP border also that too after the lockdown. Jow you can imagine how many people got infected due to this.
 
1,889 suspected COVID-19 patients admitted in Mumbai

A bulletin by the BMC on Monday said that a total of 1,889 suspected patients of coronavirus have been admitted in hospitals in Mumbai since 25 march and a total of 8,134 have been admitted in the OPD wards of various hospitals.

Source - Firstpost.

Looks like things are going to get messy in Mumbai in the coming weeks. Lot of international travelers in the city.

Just praying and hoping for the best. Mumbaikars please take note.
 
Read that they violated gathering laws in Pakistan. Now they have done it in Delhi and Tamil Nadu.

They met at the mosque in Nizamuddin earlier this month before any lockdown or any Indian government protocol around mass gatherings.
In short this was just as likely to occur at any gurdwara, mandir or church because despite the Indian government having plans in place that were “pre-emptive, pro-active and graded” since the virus first struck in Wuhan they have been sitting on their hands whilst whistling in the wind.
 
The truth about India's numbers:
https://mobile.twitter.com/srivatsayb/status/1244646294791925760

Only 30 tests per million.
Only 30.

No wonder there have been so few cases recorded.
 
This gathering happened before lockdown just like many other gatherings in India. Some of these muslim haters are trying to prove that only muslims are breaking rules in India. They are forgetting that 2 days ago thousands of people gathered at Delhi UP border also that too after the lockdown. Jow you can imagine how many people got infected due to this.
These bloody sanghis are so shameless. Even at this hour, they don't forget their deep hatred for Muslims.
 
These bloody sanghis are so shameless. Even at this hour, they don't forget their deep hatred for Muslims.

I used to think that they only hate Pakistani muslims but after Delhi riots and this lockdown it is pretty clear they hate muslims in general. They are only highlighting muslims breaking the lockdown. People of all religions are involved in this. :inti
 
I used to think that they only hate Pakistani muslims but after Delhi riots and this lockdown it is pretty clear they hate muslims in general. They are only highlighting muslims breaking the lockdown. People of all religions are involved in this. :inti
They conveniently forgot not to comment on their darling bisht's insistence on gathering 100-odd people for his showoff in Ayodhya, after the lockdown was announced.
 
Even at this hour they don't forget to chant mantras for their ishtdev...Worse still, they don't forget to wish ill will for the ones opposing their god.
 
I used to think that they only hate Pakistani muslims but after Delhi riots and this lockdown it is pretty clear they hate muslims in general. They are only highlighting muslims breaking the lockdown. People of all religions are involved in this. :inti

By They did you mean NDTV??

300 In Hospitals For Coronavirus Test, Many More Quarantined After Delhi Mosque Gathering

Over 300 people in Delhi have been taken to different hospitals to be tested for coronavirus after a gathering at a mosque that featured visitors from Malaysia, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia and Kyrgyzstan. One man has died and 10 more have tested positive for COVID-19 after attending the event earlier this month.

Worries of a large group getting the infection revolve around the gathering of Tableeghi Jamaat preachers at Alami Markaz Banglewali Masjid in Nizamuddin in mid-March before Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced a nationwide 21-day lockdown.

Authorities zeroed in on the shrine complex after it was found to be the common factor between a patient who died in Srinagar and 11 Indonesians who tested positive in Telangana. The police say they have been trying to convince the organisers to vacate the building since March 24.

https://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/cor...-2-000-quarantined-after-mosque-event-2202935
 
India #Corona Update:

New cases today - 179 - most in a single day
Deaths today - 7 - most in a single day

Total cases - 1318
Total deaths - 34
Total recovered - 137
Total active cases - 1147
 
They met at the mosque in Nizamuddin earlier this month before any lockdown or any Indian government protocol around mass gatherings.
In short this was just as likely to occur at any gurdwara, mandir or church because despite the Indian government having plans in place that were “pre-emptive, pro-active and graded” since the virus first struck in Wuhan they have been sitting on their hands whilst whistling in the wind.

Wrong.


religious programme was organised at the ‘markaz’ (the mosque) around March 18 and more than 500 people from various States had attended the programme; many of them had returned.


https://www.thehindu.com/news/citie...ms-area-cordoned-off/article31204617.ece/amp/





Coronavirus outbreak: No religious, social, political gatherings of over 50 in Delhi till March 31


https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/m.ec...hi-till-march-31/amp_articleshow/74650421.cms


Gathering banned in Delhi on 16th march. They kept having gathering even on 18th.
 
And if anything this conference in mosque and Mumbai issue prove why lockdown was necessary.
Mosque may have started the chain reaction AP, Telengana, Kerala, TN, Karnataka and Kashmir are affected by this, specially Kashmir where most of cases have been found related to the person that died in Srinagar was coming from this mosque, and might have solved the issue of Karnataka man death..
Atleast after lockdown they have manage to make sure virus related cases be it in Mumbai or other places don't move and they can be isolated.
 
Yes congress spokesman is the source.

So what?

Wikipedia says the same. I shared the link and no, no random person can edit that page as it is locked.

You're always so quick to question the source when something is against you, but believe everything that fits your narrative. :shakemyhead:

I still remember when you refused to believe that some Hindus were putting up a RSS flag on a mosque during the Dehli riots even though you were shown all the evidence.
 
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