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British press not holding back now India's been added to the red list, was only a matter of time. Even children are being rushed to hospital which was non existent during the first wave. Boris needs to be held accountable if the Indians returning to the UK start spreading this new mutation forcing another lockdown
 
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Really worrying and sad news coming out of India.

Hope all the Indian pper's and their families remain safe.
 
Allah reham karay things not looking good in India. May Allah give strength to them to fight this deadly virus. I was reading a tweet of a hopeless girl in Delhi asking for help find a medicine called Remdesivir. Made me very sad her mother and father are in hospital fighting for life.
 
There has been a 1500% increase in Covid cases in WB during last month.

What a foresight from ECI to organize 8-stages polls there!
 
The rich will get the medicine and hospital beds, the poor will die on the streets.

Yup that's how cruel the real world is. Never felt so disturbed for watching sufferings of our arch rivals but this just proves at end of the day day humanity trumps hatred. Wish all the best for Indians and wish they soon see the end of this nightmare. It's the poor who suffer no matter what country or religion they belong.
 
One of my staff working out of India is running around her town - changed 3 hospitals so far to find oxygen to save her husband.
 
The rich will get the medicine and hospital beds, the poor will die on the streets.

They have shortage of beds, oxygen, drugs and ventilators. They exported them (may be for business) and neglected their own population. A rich man would also struggle to survive in such conditions.

India has a really idiotic government who has planned to fail. They had like 9 months to prepare, what were they doing? Modi is really incompetent, why did he hold massive election rally and allow the Hindu religious gathering?

I do really feel for the ordinary people.
 
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Tbh I have heard about the cases but when you see the stats you sort of become immune but last night I was flicking through the channels and I saw NDTV and suddenly the stats had faces and immediately, you put yourselves in their situation and when I heard some of the stories, it scared the crap out of me. May Allah keep them and the whole World safe.
 
How the 2nd Covid wave is different and why the next 4 weeks are crucial
Aditi Prasad, Hindustan Times, New Delhi


India’s total active Covid-19 caseload crossed the 2 million mark earlier this week with a mammoth surge in new infections.

The second surge of coronavirus sweeping the country is frightening. There is an unprecedented surge in new infections, more and more deaths are being reported and the healthcare system is caving under the pressure of patients lining up even as essentials like medicines, oxygen, ICU beds are in short supply. Tragic stories of long queues outside hospitals, medical stores and overflowing crematoriums are not just limited to a few hotspots anymore as the disease seems to be spreading at a faster pace than any time before in the last one year.

Here’s a brief look at some top line numbers with some perspective to understand how this second wave is different and the manner it is affecting India.

DAILY CASELOAD

Even as several states have imposed curfews and lockdowns hoping to break the transmission chain, India witnessed a fresh high of 2.95 lakh new Covid-19 cases in the last 24 hours. To put that number in perspective, till about a fortnight ago, the number of people infected was just about a third of this figure at 1 lakh cases per day. Till two months ago India was recording just 10,000 fresh cases per day. That’s the speed with which new infections are growing.

India’s total active caseload crossed the 2 million mark earlier this week with a mammoth surge in new infections. This number has doubled dramatically in barely 10 days. It was only on April 10 that active cases in the country had crossed the 1 million mark.


POSITIVITY RATE

Another remarkable feature about this second wave in India is the very high positivity rate or the number of people infected versus total tests conducted. India’s daily positivity rate has doubled from 8% to 16.7% in the last 12 days according to health ministry data – a grim milestone, reinforcing the view that the virus has spread at a much faster rate during the last month.

“The numbers are likely to go up further in the coming days. The healthcare system is already on the verge of collapse,” says Dr. Rommel Tickoo, Director of Internal Medicine at Max Healthcare who believes that the more virulent mutant strains could be behind this second surge. “It is quite common for viruses such as these to mutate and stronger mutated variant virus will spread faster,” adds Dr Tickoo.

India announced detection of the new "double mutant" variant of the coronavirus in March. Termed B.1.617, this variant carries markings of two virus mutations - E484Q and L452R – and experts believe it to be more infective and faster spreading. “In this second surge, we see that transmission is faster. If one person in a household is getting infected, the whole family gets the virus, including the staff,” says Dr Tickoo.

“This time around we are not seeing many asymptomatic positives. Every person has some or other mild symptoms. The disease is spreading faster than before. Lung condition is also deteriorating a little earlier than before,” says Dr Amit Thadani, Director, Niramaya Hospital in Navi Mumbai.

CASE FATALITY RATE

Take a look at the case fatality rate or the percentage of Covid-positive patients who did not survive and the situation looks grim again. In the six months before the start of the second wave, India’s CFR was only 1.1%.

But if we look at the number of deaths in the last week then this number is rising. According to an HT Analysis - which accounts for a two-week lag in deaths occurring on average since infection - 1.6% of the people who got infected in the week ending April 4 are dead.

The percentage may appear small but look at absolute numbers and you realize that even a slight uptick in fatality rate means hundreds of additional deaths. In fact, the death toll in the last 24-hours has crossed 2,000 for the first time since the pandemic's outbreak.

India’s health infrastructure is already overwhelmed with the second surge and the steep spike in cases. Doctors believe that the next three to four weeks are absolutely critical in terms of the spread of the infection. “We need people to take all necessary precautions and abandon all carelessness. Wear double masks, wash hands frequently and maintain social distancing,” they urge unanimously, adding that everyone eligible should immediately get vaccinated.

And with faster-transmitting variants of the virus at play in this second wave, that may well be the right way forward.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/analysis/how-the-2nd-covid-wave-is-different-and-why-the-next-4-weeks-are-crucial-101618985790591.html
 
I remember at the start of the pandemic, there was a lot of gloating and rhetoric coming from India that "Pakistan corona ke maut mare ga" which was a bit bizarre considering the fact it was a worldwide problem.

However, seeing the current ground realities, I feel sorry for these people and hope things get better soon.
 
The rich will get the medicine and hospital beds, the poor will die on the streets.


A surge in the pandemic like this was expected to cause shortages in a country like India. When even many advanced countries have faced shortages of beds, medication and ventilators, it would be naiive to think that India would have it any easier.

I hate to say this but the fault lies entirely on the 'chalta hai' attitude that is prevalent in many Indians. Most people did not take social distancing or the wearing of masks seriously and these are the two most effective solutions. They carelessly visited friends and relatives at the height of the pandemic. I heard from my family that people in my city put fake press stickers on their vehicles so they could violate curfew rules (the press was exempted). All over the country, people have been violating curfews left, right and centre. Even many of the vaccinated people threw all caution to the winds, when it was clearly stated to them that the vaccine would be effective only a month or so after the second dose. They started moving around, meeting people and stopped wearing masks right after the first dose. With such carelessness, ignorance and arrogance ruling the roost the inevitable had to happen.

The worst part is that a number of innocent and well-behaved people have ended up suffering because of these rule-breaking morons.

If this does not teach India and Indians a lesson, nothing else will.
 
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A surge in the pandemic like this was expected to cause shortages in a country like India. When even many advanced countries have faced shortages of beds, medication and ventilators, it would be naiive to think that India would have it any easier.

I hate to say this but the fault lies entirely on the 'chalta hai' attitude that is prevalent in many Indians. Most people did not take social distancing or the wearing of masks seriously and these are the two most effective solutions. They carelessly visited friends and relatives at the height of the pandemic. I heard from my family that people in my city put fake press stickers on their vehicles so they could violate curfew rules (the press was exempted). All over the country, people have been violating curfews left, right and centre. Even many of the vaccinated people threw all caution to the winds, when it was clearly stated to them that the vaccine would be effective only a month or so after the second dose. They started moving around, meeting people and stopped wearing masks right after the first dose. With such carelessness, ignorance and arrogance ruling the roost the inevitable had to happen.

The worst part is that a number of innocent and well-behaved people have ended up suffering because of these rule-breaking morons.

If this does not teach India and Indians a lesson, nothing else will.

From what i heard its also true in PK. Unfortunately, actions have consequences but seeing the pain of the relatives outside hospitals was too much to bare. This one women went throttle at Modi for his rallies in Bengal as people were dying in Delhi and other places.
 
Have you seen something like this before?

BJP MP Poses in Front of Vehicles Carrying Dead Bodies, Twitter Calls it ‘Shameful Photo Opportunity'

Bhopal: A controversy has erupted in Madhya Pradesh after a video purportedly showing a BJP MP and former mayor of Bhopal Alok Sharma, flagging off six mini trucks which are meant to carry dead bodies to the cremation ground. In the video, Sharma is seen posing in front of the six garland covered ‘Mukti Vahans’ meant to carry corpses from different hospitals in Bhopal. It is also alleged that one of these “shav vahans” carrying a dead body was stopped for the photoshoot.

https://www.india.com/viral/video-b...d-bodies-twitter-calls-it-disgusting-4599342/


Jaahil politicians and their jaahil supporters. :facepalm
 
News Reports Of Bodies Piling Up Creating Panic Amid Pandemic: BJP Leader

ndore: BJP general secretary Kailash Vijayvargiya today urged media persons to report positive stories on those serving the pandemic-affected people and said that media reports showing bodies of COVID-19 victims piling up is spreading panic among people.

Doctors, paramedical staff, NGOs and people from other fields are working continuously to serve the Covid-affected people, he said.

"I request to the people in the media... you are everyday showing piles of dead bodies (of COVID-19 victims), suffering and agony of dying patients. This is creating panic among common people," Kailash Vijayvargiya told reporters.

"If you look at history, a pandemic comes once every 100 years. In such a situation, the media should show how doctors and paramedical staff are working continuously,' the leader said.

The BJP leader said many non-medical persons and NGOs are also serving the coronavirus-affected people. "This, too, should be shown to the public as it is very essential for creating a positive atmosphere," he said.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/new...demic-bjp-leader-kailash-vijayvargiya-2418146
 
Have you seen something like this before?

BJP MP Poses in Front of Vehicles Carrying Dead Bodies, Twitter Calls it ‘Shameful Photo Opportunity'

Bhopal: A controversy has erupted in Madhya Pradesh after a video purportedly showing a BJP MP and former mayor of Bhopal Alok Sharma, flagging off six mini trucks which are meant to carry dead bodies to the cremation ground. In the video, Sharma is seen posing in front of the six garland covered ‘Mukti Vahans’ meant to carry corpses from different hospitals in Bhopal. It is also alleged that one of these “shav vahans” carrying a dead body was stopped for the photoshoot.

https://www.india.com/viral/video-b...d-bodies-twitter-calls-it-disgusting-4599342/


Jaahil politicians and their jaahil supporters. :facepalm
What a publicity hungry tool, learnt it from none other than the master himself!
 
Regardless of the political differences we have with the Indian government as a human being you have to empathise with the people as they are in a really sad and desperate situation regarding the current Covid wave.

Hope they get out of this soon, watching the BBC reports would make even the most stubborn upset.

As one headline put it the India government has simply panicked and abandoned the people, but this can happen anywhere when a crisis happens and you don’t prepare for the worst.
 
Nashik: Oxygen leak leaves 22 Covid-19 patients dead in India

At least 22 Covid patients have died in a hospital in India after they lost oxygen supply due to a leak.

The incident occurred on Wednesday while an oxygen tanker was refilling a storage tank at the Zakir Hussain hospital in Nashik city.

It is unclear how the accident happened and why it interrupted supply to patients.

But officials said there was no oxygen flowing to ventilators for about 30 minutes, leading to the deaths.

"We will enquire into the matter and take action," the city's municipal commissioner Kailash Jadhav said.

The hospital had called in tankers after it had begun to run out of oxygen. Hospitals across the country are struggling to keep oxygen supply going amid soaring demand.

"We want strict action against the culprits," Amol Vyavhare, whose grandmother was one of the patients who died due to a lack of oxygen, told BBC Marathi.

Vicky Jadhav, whose grandmother was also among those who died, said she was "doing fine" when he left the hospital to bring her food.

"That's when I got a call that she had become critical. When I asked hospital authorities, they said that there is no oxygen left in the hospital."

Maharashtra, where Nashik is located, is one of India's states worst affected by coronavirus and is facing a huge shortfall in oxygen.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56830418
 
https://twitter.com/ICMRDELHI/status/1384762345314951173?s=09

Covaxin neutralizes UK Brazil and the Indian variant of the Wuhan corona virus.

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Looks like the Indian owned Covaxine might be the best vaccine to fight the Corona Virus, amazing achievement by the Indians....

Is there any reason why India cant produce it in huge quantities to jab the Indian public ? I am hearing a lot of Indian vaccine supplies are almost finished. Surely they have the capability to mass produce.
 
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Looks like the Indian owned Covaxine might be the best vaccine to fight the Corona Virus, amazing achievement by the Indians....

Is there any reason why India cant produce it in huge quantities to jab the Indian public ? I am hearing a lot of Indian vaccine supplies are almost finished. Surely they have the capability to mass produce.

700mn doses of Covaxin this year.
 
Most number of Covid cases ever on earth in a single day in a single country today! 3.10L cases today in India.
 
Make that 3.15L cases in a single day! 8k more cases than previous worst in US!
 
Make that 3.15L cases in a single day! 8k more cases than previous worst in US!

With India’s population that was always a likelihood to be honest.

But India’s testing rate isn’t as high as US was when they made the record.
 
Triple mutation Covid variant in India? Here's what we know so far
NEW DELHI: Even as India continues to witness an unprecedented surge in Covid cases, a new triple mutant strain has emerged as a fresh threat in the battle against the pandemic, reported IANS.

Here's what we know so far ...
* Late last year, scientists had detected a new variant, called B.1.617, with two mutations - the E484Q and L452R. This double mutant strain was first detected in Maharashtra.
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* Experts believed that India's ongoing second surge is fueled in part by double mutant strain of the virus, which is said to be more infectious.

* The third mutation is said to have been evolved from the double mutation where three different Covid strains have combined to form a new variant.



India has a double mutant Covid variant. Should we worry?


* Two of these triple mutant strains have been found in samples collected from Maharashtra, Delhi, West Bengal and Chhattisgarh.

* Viruses mutate all the time, as part of evolutionary biology. Some mutations weaken the virus while others may make it stronger, enabling it to proliferate faster or cause more infections.

* So far, India's health ministry has only acknowledged the presence of the “double mutant”. However, it has only been identified as a "variant of interest" and not a "variant of concern".

* The mutated strains of the virus can be detected through genome sequencing of samples collected from different states.


* "As the virus spreads, it gets more opportunities to acquire mutations and evolve at a faster rate. This is a natural aspect of virus life-cycle but it is very important that we track these changes (virus surveillance) and follow the important viral characteristics associated with these mutations," Dr Veena P Menon, faculty-in-charge, Clinical Virology Laboratory, Amrita Institute of Medical Sciences, Kochi told IANS.

* The evidence so far suggests that none of the important virus variants are associated with increased severity. However, an increased transmissibility is associated with the UK variant (lineage B1.1.7) while the Brazilian and South African variants exhibit ability to escape vaccine-induced immunity.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-what-we-know-so-far/articleshow/82183386.cms
 
‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell
Many falsely believed that the country had defeated Covid. Now hospitals are running out of oxygen and bodies are stacking up in morgues

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by Hannah Ellis-Petersen in Delhi
Wed 21 Apr 2021 07.15 EDT

Looking out over a sea of jostling, maskless faces gathered at a political rally in West Bengal on Saturday, the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, proudly proclaimed that he had “never ever seen such huge crowds”. A mask was also noticeably absent from Modi’s face.

That same day, India registered a record-breaking 234,000 new coronavirus cases and 1,341 deaths – and the numbers have kept rising since.

The country has descended into a tragedy of unprecedented proportions. Almost 1.6 million cases have been registered in a week, bringing total cases to more than 15 million. In the space of just 12 days, the Covid positivity rate doubled to 17%, while in Delhi it hit 30%. Hospitals across the country have filled to capacity but this time it is predominately the young taking up the beds; in Delhi, 65% of cases are under 40 years old.

While the unprecedented spread of the virus has been partly blamed on a more contagious variant that has emerged in India, Modi’s government has also been accused of failures of political leadership from the top, with lax attitudes emulated by state and local leaders from all parties and even health officials across the country, which led many to falsely believe in recent months that India had defeated Covid.


“Leadership across the country did not adequately convey that this was an epidemic which had not gone away,” said K Srinath Reddy, president of the Public Health Foundation of India.

“Victory was declared prematurely and that ebullient mood was communicated across the country, especially by politicians who wanted to get the economy going and wanted to get back to campaigning. And that gave the virus the chance to rise again.”

In West Bengal, where Modi’s government has refused to curtail the drawn-out state elections that his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is hoping to win, Modi and his home minister, Amit Shah, continued their public meetings and roadshows into this week even as queues of ambulances lined up outside hospitals across India. On Saturday, the same day as Modi’s rally, the state registered 7,713 new cases – the highest since the pandemic began. Three candidates running in the election have died from the virus. By Sunday, #ModiMadeDisaster began trending on Twitter.


Doctors on the frontline broke down, speaking of the deluge of dying Covid patients they had been unable to treat due to a lack of beds and inadequate state and central government preparation.

Dr Amit Thadhani, director of Niramaya hospital in Mumbai, which is only treating Covid patients, said he had given warnings about a virulent second wave back in February but they had gone ignored. He said now his hospital was “completely full and if a patient gets discharged, the bed is filled within minutes”. Ten days ago, the hospital ran out of oxygen, but alternative supplies were found just in time.

“There are people lined up outside the hospital trying to get in and every day we are getting calls every 30 seconds from someone trying to find a bed,” said Thadhani. “Most of these calls are for patients who are critically ill and do need hospital care but there just isn’t enough capacity and so there is a lot of mortality happening. Everyone has been stretched to their limit.”

Thadhani said this time round the virus was “much more aggressive and much more infectious” and was now predominately affecting young people. “Now it is people in their 20s and 30s who are coming in with very severe symptoms and there is a lot of mortality among young people,” he said.

Health workers and relatives carry the body of a man who died from coronavirus disease, at a crematorium in New Delhi.
Health workers and relatives carry the body of a man who died from coronavirus, at a crematorium in New Delhi. Photograph: Adnan Abidi/Reuters
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The haunting blare of ambulance sirens continued to ring out across the capital almost non-stop. Inside Lok Nayak government hospital in Delhi, the largest Covid facility in the capital, overburdened facilities and a shortage of oxygen cylinders meant there was two to a bed, while outside patients waiting for beds gasped for air on stretchers and in ambulances, while sobbing relatives stood by their sides. Some sat with oxygen cylinders they had bought themselves out of desperation. Others died waiting in the hospital car park.


In Mumbai, which was the first city to bear the brunt of the second wave, Dr Jalil Parkar of Lilavati hospital said that “the whole healthcare system has collapsed and doctors are exhausted”.

“There is a shortage of beds, shortage of oxygen, shortage of drugs, shortage of vaccines, shorting of testing,” said Parkar.

“Even though we opened another wing for Covid, we still don’t have nearly enough beds, so we have had to put some patients in the corridors and we have turned the basement into a triage area for Covid patients. We have people waiting in ambulances and wheelchairs outside the hospital and we have to sometimes give them oxygen out there. What else can we do?”


Even those in the upper echelons of power struggled to find beds for their loved ones. Vijay Singh Kumar, the national minister for transport and a BJP MP in the state of Uttar Pradesh, resorted to Twitter with the plea: “Please help us, my brother needs a bed for corona treatment. Now beds are not being arranged in Ghaziabad.”

Announcing a six-day lockdown to prevent the complete collapse of the healthcare system, Delhi’s chief minister, Arvind Kejriwal, did not mince his words. “The Covid situation in Delhi is grim,” he said on Monday. Over 99% of ICU beds in the capital were occupied that day and by Tuesday, several of Delhi’s top hospitals, all with hundreds of Covid patients, had declared oxygen emergencies, warning they had just hours of supplies left.


States such a Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh stand accused of covering up the true death toll from coronavirus, with the numbers of bodies stacking up in hospital morgues far outnumbering official fatality figures. Among the worst-hit cities in Uttar Pradesh was Lucknow, where 22-year-old Deepti Mistri – a mother of one who had no pre-existing health conditions – was among the city’s dead, after falling ill with Covid on 14 April.

Her uncle Saroj Kumar Pandey, an ambulance driver who raised her from childhood, said he had desperately tried to find her a hospital bed when, two days later, her oxygen level began to drop dangerously to below 50% but could not find anywhere that had room.

A notice about the shortage of coronavirus vaccine supplies is seen at a vaccination centre, in Mumbai.

“I realised Deepti needed oxygen immediately so I arranged for a cylinder for her myself,” he said. “I put her into the back of a relative’s car with the oxygen while I went around to a dozen private and government hospitals trying to find her a bed and a ventilator. But nowhere would take her.”

Eventually, late at night on 16 April Pandey found her a bed in a small six-bed private clinic in Lucknow. It was not a Covid hospital but they agreed to take her for a single night to give her oxygen while Pandey continued his search for a hospital bed. “We kept looking all night but nowhere had a bed or ventilator for her,” he said. “In the morning the clinic discharged her at 5am, so we had no choice but to bring her home. Deepti died a few hours later because she did not have oxygen and hospital care. She should be alive today.”


Twitter and Facebook have become a devastating catalogue of hundreds of thousands of urgent pleas for help finding hospital beds, oxygen, plasma and remdesivir, the drug experimentally used to help treat Covid patients, which remains in short supply in hospitals across the country.

The dead, meanwhile, have continued to overload crematoriums and graveyards in the states of Uttar Pradesh, Gujarat and Delhi faster than they could be burned, and families waited days to cremate their loved ones. On Sunday, Delhi’s largest cremation facility, Nigambodh Ghat, ran out of space, despite doubling its funeral pyres to more than 60.

State governments in Delhi and Mumbai have been scrambling to rebuild the temporary Covid facilities they had dismantled months earlier, while the central government announced an amping up of the vaccination programme which would mean anyone over the age of 18 will be eligible from 1 May, though a shortage of supplies remains an issue.

An edict from the government ruled that all oxygen meant for industrial use would now be diverted to hospitals to meet the unprecedented demand, and Indian railways said they were all set to operate special trains specially designed to carry liquid oxygen and oxygen cylinders, dubbed the “Oxygen Express”. Thousands of Covid beds have also been arranged in train carriages.

Still, many fear that it is too little, too late. “The seriousness of the situation should have been realised months ago but instead governments were in denial and gave out messages that the virus was not that dangerous any more,” said Thadhani. “I’m worried that we still have not seen the worst.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1619005174
 
With India’s population that was always a likelihood to be honest.

But India’s testing rate isn’t as high as US was when they made the record.
Still it all feels really scary! Our pedestrian testing rate has been our bane, amongst lot of other factors and I've been stressing on it since last year.

All this for what? Just for us to look good in terms of low infection rate vis-à-vis our population and how things were under control?

Had we tried to take this menace head on last year itself instead of wheeling out peripherals like doubling rate etc, things may not have come to such a pass as they've today!

We had amongst lowest number of daily cases this time last year was due to miniscule testing we did, lowest number of tests with relation to our burgeoning population! Period!
 
Bhramar Mujherjee, a professor at Michigan University says that there is massive under-reporting of the cases in India. Even during first wave there were 11 times more cases than reported. That is crazy. If it’s true surely BJP is responsible for that?

This is news no. 1 here in Norway’s biggest paper.

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/...doedsfallene-kan-vaere-hoeyere-enn-registrert

I wrote about this in the IPL thread.

Australia and New Zealand allow symptom-free citizens to return from overseas into 14 days hotel quarantine.

At the height of the American pandemic, 2% of arrivals from the USA tested positive in quarantine. At that time their population was 328 million, they had 200,000 cases per day and just under 4,000 deaths per day.

In both Australia and New Zealand, currently just under 12% of arrivals from India test positive. Meaning India’s pandemic is six times worse than America’s ever was.

Even if Indian healthcare was of US standards, and patients weren’t sharing beds, and hospitals weren’t running out of oxygen, that would imply that currently India - with a population 4.2 times larger than the USA - would be expected to currently have at least 840,000 cases per day and 16,800 deaths per day.

In reality, crowding, poor healthcare and reliance on daily income probably mean that India currently has double those figures - around 1.7 million cases per day and 30,000 deaths.

Unfortunately too many governments in developing countries from Tanzania to Pakistan have learned that if you avoid testing sick and dying people you can make your statistics look deceptively good.
 
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Bhramar Mujherjee, a professor at Michigan University says that there is massive under-reporting of the cases in India. Even during first wave there were 11 times more cases than reported. That is crazy. If it’s true surely BJP is responsible for that?

This is news no. 1 here in Norway’s biggest paper.

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/...doedsfallene-kan-vaere-hoeyere-enn-registrert
Things like the Bhopal story really betray just how misleading the official stats are.

But, like in Pakistan and Tanzania, this deception is surprisingly easy to execute in a developing country. People are so used to people dying prematurely in their forties, fifties, sixties and seventies that each additional premature death does not arouse the same suspicion that it would in a western country.
 
Nashik: Oxygen leak leaves 22 Covid-19 patients dead in India

At least 22 Covid patients have died in a hospital in India after they lost oxygen supply due to a leak.

The incident occurred on Wednesday while an oxygen tanker was refilling a storage tank at the Zakir Hussain hospital in Nashik city.

It is unclear how the accident happened and why it interrupted supply to patients.

But officials said there was no oxygen flowing to ventilators for about 30 minutes, leading to the deaths.

"We will enquire into the matter and take action," the city's municipal commissioner Kailash Jadhav said.

The hospital had called in tankers after it had begun to run out of oxygen. Hospitals across the country are struggling to keep oxygen supply going amid soaring demand.

"We want strict action against the culprits," Amol Vyavhare, whose grandmother was one of the patients who died due to a lack of oxygen, told BBC Marathi.

Vicky Jadhav, whose grandmother was also among those who died, said she was "doing fine" when he left the hospital to bring her food.

"That's when I got a call that she had become critical. When I asked hospital authorities, they said that there is no oxygen left in the hospital."

Maharashtra, where Nashik is located, is one of India's states worst affected by coronavirus and is facing a huge shortfall in oxygen.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56830418

Very Tragic.
Saw the news videos and my it is heart rending, wish the staff were more careful in handling Oxygen
 
New Delhi: In a worrying development, India’s daily coronavirus case surge crossed the 3-lakh mark on Thursday, April 22. The country has reported a single-day spike of 3,14,835 new COVID-19 cases on Thursday morning, the highest surge for any country in the world since the pandemic began.

As per data available, the United States had recorded the previous highest daily case count of 3,07,581 COVID-19 cases on January 8 this year.

India also recorded 2,104 deaths over the last 24 hours along with 1,78,841 discharges, as per the Union Ministry of Health and Family Welfare.

India’s COVID-19 caseload has now risen to 1,59,30,965 infections with total recoveries of 1,34,54,880. The cumulative death toll stands at 1,84,657 with 22,91,428 active COVID-19 cases.

A total of 13,23,30,644 people have been vaccinated against the COVID-19 disease in the country so far.

On Wednesday, with the COVID-19 crisis in the country appearing to be going out of control amid a shortage of beds, oxygen and anti-viral medicines, the Central government sought to quell the panic and came with statistics to show the severity and virulence of the virus in the second wave is almost the same as during the first one.

The government, however, also admitted that there was no indication of a downtrend in the COVID graph yet.

The government also informed that around 21,000 people had contracted COVID-19 after being administered the first dose of a vaccine. Some 5,700 people tested positive after receiving both doses.

Union Health Secretary Rajesh Bhushan informed the press that the COVID-19 positivity rate in 146 districts was higher than 15 per cent, while it ranged between 5 and 15 per cent in 274 districts.

"We are in the midst of the second wave of the pandemic and we are still seeing an upsurge. We cannot comment when the numbers will come down," ICMR Director General Balram Bhargava said.

The press conference was held amid a growing panic that the second wave could cause greater havoc in the country compared to the first one.

Responding to a question as to how the second wave caught the country unaware, Bhushan said, "Today is not the time to go into why did we miss or did we miss or did we prepare. It is time to jointly face the pandemic. Once we emerge from it successfully, then probably... we would be able to deliberate on this."

"All the energies of the Centre and states are focused in a collaborative manner to tackle this, save lives and to ensure our health system is strengthened," he stressed.

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...r-for-any-country-since-pandemic-began/748122
 
Bhramar Mujherjee, a professor at Michigan University says that there is massive under-reporting of the cases in India. Even during first wave there were 11 times more cases than reported. That is crazy. If it’s true surely BJP is responsible for that?

This is news no. 1 here in Norway’s biggest paper.

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/...doedsfallene-kan-vaere-hoeyere-enn-registrert

For pakistanis everything is by Bjp. Not that its surprising.

Bjp doesn't report cases. Each state reports its cases separately. There are both BJP and non BJP run states in India.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is spreading his nonsense backed by no source. This is spreading fake news at the time of a pandemic.
 
If India had then attempted a scientific assessment of its first wave, there might have been lessons for the future. It would have found that many people were still vulnerable to the virus. India’s most recent nationwide sero-survey conducted during December 2020 and January 2021 indicated that more than one in five Indians had been exposed to the virus, but the proportion of those with antibodies in urban slums was over twelve percentage points higher than in rural areas.

While officially recorded deaths appeared to show that India’s mortality from Covid was far below that in much of the developed world, government authorities largely ignored warnings from the first wave: the death report infrastructure was underpowered at the best of times, and health authorities were actively undercounting Covid deaths. Official mortality data was last recorded in 2018.

Despite its world-class genomic sequencing infrastructure, India also fell far behind on this front. It did virtually no sequencing between July and December 2020, Gagandeep Kang, one of India’s most respected virologists, told me. Even since then, India has sequenced less than 1% of total Covid-19 samples between January and March 2021, citing a lack of funds. This means that many important questions about the Indian outbreak can’t be answered – there are hypotheses that the new “double mutant” variant that originated in India, and is now the UK’s fastest growing variant, could be more transmissible or evade immunity, but there is little evidence to substantiate this yet. Other hypotheses around the new surge include a high rate of reinfections and breakthrough infections in people who are already vaccinated, but again no data is yet available.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/21/indias-government-abandoned-citizens-deadly-second-covid-wave?fbclid=IwAR3QZ_ZjXahAsMmhQaRSCOWndV7zgnLtsLDHx4SY2n_yNtSK88vasrZXcEM
 
I wrote about this in the IPL thread.

Australia and New Zealand allow symptom-free citizens to return from overseas into 14 days hotel quarantine.

At the height of the American pandemic, 2% of arrivals from the USA tested positive in quarantine. At that time their population was 328 million, they had 200,000 cases per day and just under 4,000 deaths per day.

In both Australia and New Zealand, currently just under 12% of arrivals from India test positive. Meaning India’s pandemic is six times worse than America’s ever was.

Even if Indian healthcare was of US standards, and patients weren’t sharing beds, and hospitals weren’t running out of oxygen, that would imply that currently India - with a population 4.2 times larger than the USA - would be expected to currently have at least 840,000 cases per day and 16,800 deaths per day.

In reality, crowding, poor healthcare and reliance on daily income probably mean that India currently has double those figures - around 1.7 million cases per day and 30,000 deaths.

Unfortunately too many governments in developing countries from Tanzania to Pakistan have learned that if you avoid testing sick and dying people you can make your statistics look deceptively good.

Where is your source of your claims for death rates in India?

Unless you have a credible source this is just fake news being spread because of your bias.
 
I am seeing figures like these when it comes reporting of deaths in India.

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If this is the case, this would be a massive underreporting of deaths.
 
India Tripple mutant :

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Reddy said: "A double mutant was first reported with features that were previously noted in Brazil and South Africa and then in California.

"Another mutant has been described and found in other parts of India.

"While the double mutant has been noted in more than 20 countries, this triple mutant which has just been described has been tracked in India and I'm sure it will be tracked elsewhere too.

"But how dangerous is it and how it can escape vaccine potential?



link - https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...tening-world-surges/ar-BB1fVfSE?ocid=msedgntp
 
As mentioned on the chart, they are comparing official number of Covid deaths vs cremations at sites specifically for Covid.

I see only 5 cities being mentioned. Do we have similar data for whole country?
 
Australia will restrict the number of flights returning from India and other red-zone countries to contain the risk of more virulent strains of Covid-19 spreading, the Australian government said on Thursday.

After a meeting of the National Cabinet, Prime Minister Scott Morrison told reporters he would announce in the next 24 hours when the new restrictions will come into force.

The new restrictions will reduce 30% of direct flights from India to Sydney and chartered flights that land in the Northern Territory.

"We're in the middle of a global pandemic that is raging. And Australia has been successful throughout this pandemic ... to have very effective border arrangements," said Morrison.

"There will continue to be the opportunity for those to return from places like India but in very controlled circumstances," he added.

Australia has placed a limit at 5,800 per week on the number of citizens or permanent resident entering the country's borders before quarantining for two weeks in hotels.

India recorded a massive surge of over 3 lakh fresh daily infections on Thursday which is more than the case being reported from United States at the peak of the pandemic there last year.

https://www.timesnownews.com/busine...ndia-other-covid-19-red-zone-countries/748276
 
I think it’s the list of places which has tweaked their data the most. Almost everyone are doing it with the exception of Maharashtra, and out of this Gujarat definitely takes the cake here
 
Still it all feels really scary! Our pedestrian testing rate has been our bane, amongst lot of other factors and I've been stressing on it since last year.

All this for what? Just for us to look good in terms of low infection rate vis-à-vis our population and how things were under control?

Had we tried to take this menace head on last year itself instead of wheeling out peripherals like doubling rate etc, things may not have come to such a pass as they've today!

We had amongst lowest number of daily cases this time last year was due to miniscule testing we did, lowest number of tests with relation to our burgeoning population! Period!

With nearly 200,000 tests/million population, India's testing rate is far from pedestrian. Many other countries are a lot worse.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The spread in India is primarily due to a reckless and carefree population, the vast majority of which has not taken basic precautions like mask wearing, social distancing and staying at home seriously. And then we have also been allowing all sorts of markazes and Khumb melas to go on unhindered.
 
With nearly 200,000 tests/million population, India's testing rate is far from pedestrian.
Obviously not talking about current times. Was talking about last year during first wave. It was amongst lowest in entire world.
 
I think it’s the list of places which has tweaked their data the most. Almost everyone are doing it with the exception of Maharashtra, and out of this Gujarat definitely takes the cake here

What about Karnataka? Are the numbers being fudged here as well? :inti
 
With nearly 200,000 tests/million population, India's testing rate is far from pedestrian. Many other countries are a lot worse.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Even if you go with current trends, our testing rate (1.94L tests/million population) is worst amongst top-14 affected nations, bar Brazil (1.33L tests/million population).

So if we can't test enough even now, when else will we?
 
How did they know who died of Covid and who died of other causes?

If normally there were 20 crematoriums in a April over past ten years and now there are 50 then it’s safe to assume that majority of the extra 30 this year are due to Covid even if official data says 10 Covid deaths
 
If normally there were 20 crematoriums in a April over past ten years and now there are 50 then it’s safe to assume that majority of the extra 30 this year are due to Covid even if official data says 10 Covid deaths

heh? how that works?

Anything that exceeds get attributes to covid?
 
heh? how that works?

Anything that exceeds get attributes to covid?
What other event is going on that suddenly the average number of crematoriums in one month is so vastly higher than the average data for that month over past 10 years
 
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It is scary and sad to go on Indian twitter and read all these tweets requesting oxygen, beds,medicines and then reading that some of those who were asking are dead and need nothing any more and a fair few seem to be young men and women, young fathers and mothers.

The Indian institutional system has collapsed but it was never robust to begin with - India manages to survive because of the goodness of a lot of ordinary Indians and that is again seen on twitter and on ground where a lot of Indians are helping other Indians.

I have donated a small sum of money to Hemkunt foundation who were helping with the farm protests and are now helping with oxygen cylinders, we all should try and help in whatever way we can.
 
Covid-19: Passengers from India can't fly to UAE from April 24, says notice sent to travel agents


Airlines flying to the UAE will not accept passengers from India, Khaleej Times has learnt. This is effective from 2359 hours, April 24, according to notices sent by UAE-based airlines to trade partners.

The Covid safety measure will be in place for 10 days, the notice said.

Transit passengers from India are not allowed to enter the UAE, unless they had been staying in other countries for 14 days.

Departure and cargo flights will continue to operate as usual between both countries.

UAE citizens, diplomatic missions and official delegations are exempted.

When Khaleej Times checked, we were unable to book flights from the UAE to Indian destinations after April 24 on the Emirates, Etihad, flydubai and Air Arabia websites.

Doctor breaks down explaining Covid-19 situation in India

This came as India recorded the world's highest daily tally of 314,835 new Covid-19 infections on Thursday as a second wave of the pandemic raised new fears about the ability of crumbling health services to cope.

At least eight countries around the world have announced travel bans and restrictions on passengers from India to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

Health officials across northern and western India including the capital, New Delhi, said they were in crisis, with most hospitals full and running out of oxygen.


https://www.khaleejtimes.com/corona...om-april-24-says-notice-sent-to-travel-agents
 
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It is scary and sad to go on Indian twitter and read all these tweets requesting oxygen, beds,medicines and then reading that some of those who were asking are dead and need nothing any more and a fair few seem to be young men and women, young fathers and mothers.

The Indian institutional system has collapsed but it was never robust to begin with - India manages to survive because of the goodness of a lot of ordinary Indians and that is again seen on twitter and on ground where a lot of Indians are helping other Indians.

I have donated a small sum of money to Hemkunt foundation who were helping with the farm protests and are now helping with oxygen cylinders, we all should try and help in whatever way we can.

The situation was much the same in many European countries last year, despite their excellent medical infrastructure.
The government may be inefficient in India, and the mostly careless India population is most definitely to be blamed. India may not be perfect, far from it, but to say that there is a 'Institutional collapse' is just plain nonsense. We have the most serious pandemic since the black plague on our hands, and medical infrastructure is breaking down in many places, not just India. So let's stay away from the pointless criticism and keep agendas out of it.

I'm sure there are many elements in the Indian government who are working day and night, as are the common people, to meet this challenge. Let's not undermine their efforts.

And thank you for your help. I'm sure it will be of benefit to someone in these trying times.
 
Given China has about the same population as India, what did China do that India is not?
China has a real dictatorship with strong control over information flow. You can also ask what did China do but US, UK is not ?
 
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With nearly 200,000 tests/million population, India's testing rate is far from pedestrian. Many other countries are a lot worse.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The spread in India is primarily due to a reckless and carefree population, the vast majority of which has not taken basic precautions like mask wearing, social distancing and staying at home seriously. And then we have also been allowing all sorts of markazes and Khumb melas to go on unhindered.

Read this up. There maybe a lot of fudging in the official testing being done.

https://theprint.in/iwitness/testin...at-happened-when-i-went-to-kumbh-mela/642232/

Testing negative without even giving a sample: What happened when I went to Kumbh Mela.

Testing negative without even giving a sample: What happened when I went to Kumbh Mela
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Kumbh Mela, Haridwar: On 15 April, I was sitting in my hotel room in Haridwar, filing a report on the Kumbh Mela’s third shahi snaan (royal bath), when at 8.44 am, I got a text message (image below) from the Government of India saying my sample for a Rapid Antigen Test (RAT) had been successfully collected, along with the routine advice to isolate.

That’s odd, I thought. Curious, I clicked on the link that accompanied the message. A PDF (embedded below) of the ICMR Specimen Referral Form, complete with my name and phone number, opened up. It showed that my sample had been collected in Haridwar and that my result was negative.




This outcome would have not been alarming, except that I had never taken a RAT, had not filled out any Specimen Referral Form (SRF) and wasn’t at any testing facility at the time my sample was purportedly collected. In fact, at the time I was sitting in my hotel, typing out a story.

So, what had just happened?

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The Uttarakhand government had on 25 March, made it mandatory for anyone attending the Kumbh Mela to have tested negative in a RT-PCR test.

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Like many others, I had presented my negative certificate while crossing the Narsan border on 13 April. Booths had been set up to collect information of travellers coming in, and were manned by police personnel and volunteers.


A pair of volunteers, who worked with one of the three empanelled private laboratories making registrations and conducting tests, had noted down my name and address, and stamped a piece of paper that acknowledged my result was negative. I was allowed to enter without any hassle.


At the time, I didn’t think much of the exercise, but when I received the text message two days later, I called one of the volunteers whose numbers I had happened to take down.

“We have to register every negative RT-PCR report that comes our way and generate an SRF number with it. We registered the negative result and did your entry through the Rapid Antigen Test, and put it as negative,” he said. He explained they were having data entry problems, which is why I had received the message two days later.

“It’s not just you, we have done this with everyone who presented a negative RT-PCR certificate to us,” the volunteer assured me.


Instead of assuring me, though, it made me wonder what this would mean for the state’s positivity rate, and how this data could disrupt the big picture of gauging how Uttarakhand was handling its Covid situation.

Also read: Govt ‘data’ on Covid cases, and ‘fresh start’ for virus at Kumbh Mela

A double negative
Not everyone who attended the mela had the same experience, it turned out. Most other travellers I had spoken to said they hadn’t received any such text message. But I wasn’t the only one either.

A doctor, who did not wish to discuss the matter particularly, said he had a similar experience in March. In his case, the ICMR SRF showed his sample had been taken by a private laboratory for an RT-PCR test, and that the results were not in yet. He had escalated the matter to authorities immediately.

When I spoke to the Chief Medical Officer of Haridwar, Dr S.K. Jha, he said, “This is incorrect and we will look into it. This shouldn’t be happening, as police should check the negative certificates and let those cars go. We will take corrective measures immediately.” Dr Jha oversees testing of travellers at the Narsan border.

Data from the Haridwar health department shows that on 15 April, till 8pm, 2,987 people had been tested at the Narsan border, and 2,875 had already been tested and shown their result before passing through. Three diagnostic labs — Tata Medical and Diagnostics, Dr Ahuja’s Pathology Lab and Novice Pathology — had been empanelled by the government to conduct tests at the border.

“This isn’t the protocol that is meant to be followed. We empanelled private labs to help us out for the Kumbh mela. No one with a negative RT-PCR should be re-tested nor their number used to produce a RAT report when a sample wasn’t given. We will look into this,” Dr Jha added.

Also read: Returning from Kumbh Mela? Delhi govt makes 14-day home quarantine mandatory

Chaos at Kumbh
At the Kumbh Mela, I spent two days reporting on the lack of enforcement of Covid-19 norms on the ground, and the subsequent exodus of seers who tested positive after participating in the shahi snaans.

Several doctors and nursing staff who were in charge of testing at the mela said seers were outright refusing to get tested, and in some cases, aggressively so. By evening, as it inched closer to the time for the Ganga Aarti began, crowds on the banks of the river only swelled — people pressed up together like dozens of sardines in a can. By then, police were also making no efforts to maintain social distancing among people, and testing booths remained largely empty.

ThePrint's Simrin Sirur at the Kumbh Mela
ThePrint’s Simrin Sirur at the Kumbh Mela
Although the mela will now continue only “symbolically”, the effects of Covid-19 infections can already be felt in the small district, which recorded 634 cases on 18 April.

This will likely reverberate across the state, which is seeing a similar spike in cases and test positivity, which is currently at 8 per cent.

“The state government allowed this to happen. It’ll wreck havoc, and we will have to be the ones to clean up the mess,” an official in the district health department told me.

(Edited by Manasa Mohan)
 
Chinese have a strong & intelligent leadership.

Modi & Co would struggle to run my local corner shop.

Agree and this is one of those instances where a 'dictatorship' has benefit. No winging around, just get on with - order from the top.

Unlike the democratic world where leaders couldn't initiate a lockdown because elections were around the corner and parties were afraid of losing votes.
 
China has a real dictatorship with strong control over information flow. You can also ask what did China do but US, UK is not ?

That's simple. China went into lockdown asap. While USA/UK leaders delayed the lockdown and closure of flights in fear of being accused of racism/xenophobia.
 
That's simple. China went into lockdown asap. While USA/UK leaders delayed the lockdown and closure of flights in fear of being accused of racism/xenophobia.

Even today more people are dying in US and UK than daily cases in China. There is no lockdown in China now.
 
The situation was much the same in many European countries last year, despite their excellent medical infrastructure.

This is not based on facts. In Europe, People were not dying on the streets and footpaths waiting and hoping to be allowed in the hospitals. Death rates were as bad or worse but there weren’t seen of people pleading for hospital beds and ventilators and seeing their relatives die in front of the hospital entrance..
 
Even today more people are dying in US and UK than daily cases in China. There is no lockdown in China now.

Not true. Today less people are dying in USA/UK due to vaccine rollout. In UK it is less than 20 a day now.

However USA and UK were very late in imposing a lock down which did lead to a high number of deaths.

Ps: There was a lock down China. Wuhan for starters.
 
This is not based on facts. In Europe, People were not dying on the streets and footpaths waiting and hoping to be allowed in the hospitals. Death rates were as bad or worse but there weren’t seen of people pleading for hospital beds and ventilators and seeing their relatives die in front of the hospital entrance..
Plenty of people died in the west in old age homes without even reaching hospitals.
 
Plenty of people died in the west in old age homes without even reaching hospitals.

I assume you're Indian?

You seem to be playing down the seriousness of the situation in India. Perhaps im mistaken.

Can you please in detail explain the current Covid wave in India from your pov? How bad is it?
 
Not true. Today less people are dying in USA/UK due to vaccine rollout. In UK it is less than 20 a day now.

However USA and UK were very late in imposing a lock down which did lead to a high number of deaths.

Ps: There was a lock down China. Wuhan for starters.
China is reporting ten new cases a day. The virus escaped Wuhan reached every where in the world, but didn't spread in other parts of China ! Stranger than fiction.
 
Even today more people are dying in US and UK than daily cases in China. There is no lockdown in China now.

China has very strict lockdown. My friend went to meet her dad in China last month.

When she landed she had to do forced 10 day quarantine in a hotel in Beijing. And then she went on train to her home city and she had to do another mandatory quarantine.

Their initial lockdown and quarantine measures are very strict
 
I assume you're Indian?

You seem to be playing down the seriousness of the situation in India. Perhaps im mistaken.

Can you please in detail explain the current Covid wave in India from your pov? How bad is it?

I don't know. Only hear about deaths in media. Covid has been spreading in my apartment complex for more than a month now, but nobody has died. People are recovering in home quarantine.
 
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