Could Babar Azam's T20 performances lead to IPL allowing Pakistani players?

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan players are not excluded for the lack of talent. These Aussie coaches bring in some useless players every year. I am sure Pak players are likely to be better than them. It is the political scenario that is the main reason. Not BCCI. Including Pakistan players will significantly increase the viewership. Not like Pakistan born or Pakistan origin players don't take part. As long as they don't represent Pakistan they can still play. Imran Tahir is an example. Azhar Mahmood played. Pak origin players like Moeen Ali is playing.

 

[shamaan]

I'm not talking about the abilities of the concerned players. IPL franchises are extremely hard on convicted match/spot fixers and won't pick them even if they picked 10 wickets or scored a 50 ball double hundred every game...

And no. The current Amir is not the same bowler as he was in 2017 and he won't outperform Bumrah, Bhuvi and even Shaheen if he does play the T20 wc. Hasan Ali and Bhuvi outperformed him in the CT2017 and Bumrah, Shaheen and arguably even Mustafiz outperformed him in the 2019 world cup so don't know how you derived that "just like he did" part....

Shaheen has outperformed archer,bumrah and the rest

 

[Napa]

But Didn't Pakistan tour India in 2012/13? The political focus is more on Kashmir now I believe and I don't think any series is happening as long as Modi is PM.

For Pakistan to play in ipl there has to be a govt change.. the modi govt would never allow pak players in the ipl they get their votes on anti pak agendas..

Why only Modi? IK too. Nawaz Sharif tried to reduce the hostility between India and Pakistan and was called "traitor", "friend of enemy", "sell-out" etc. etc.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Why only Modi? IK too. Nawaz Sharif tried to reduce the hostility between India and Pakistan and was called "traitor", "friend of enemy", "sell-out" etc. etc.

The issues between Pakistan and India can not be resolved because both countries can not compromise on Kashmir issue.Modi's actions in Kashmir has made it impossible to find a solution.

 

[Napa]

The issues between Pakistan and India can not be resolved because both countries can not compromise on Kashmir issue.Modi's actions in Kashmir has made it impossible to find a solution.

Don't blame just Modi for the dysfunctional relations between India and Pakistan.

I disagree that Kashmir is essential for improving relations between the two countries. If Kashmir was essential then you might as well give up all hope of improved relations for a few hundred years because at this point in time and for the next few hundred India will be too strong for Kashmir to be wrested from it.

Nawaz realized that Kashmir was a dead end for Pakistan, and he wisely chose to improve relations with India without making Kashmir a precondition. His approach would have brought massive economic and other benefits to Pakistan, but he was called a "traitor", "friend of the enemy" etc.

IK got off to a great start for improving relations with India by calling Modi "small man" and "Hitler"

 

[UzmanBeast]

IPL will never allow Pakistani players unless the political situation improves. Even then, there will still be internal politics and a lack of trust, so don't get your hopes up at all.

Rather than talking about politics and pointing fingers, I think that fans on both sides need to start demonstrating some maturity and stop the needless fights they have between one another.

Cricket is a passionate sport, I agree, but real change starts from the people themselves, not the government.

Just enjoy the sport, enjoy good cricket where it happens.

 

[Smbhayi]

I think he would be selected (to tap into the huge Pakistani market) but would warm the bench most of the time as his customary 50 (38) won't be worth risking the overseas spot. There are dozens of Indian batters who are perfectly capable of doing that.

Franchises usually go for X-factor overseas batsmen who are capable of upping the ante at any time or the ones who can chip in with a few overs. That is why you see a guy like Ben Cutting playing but not Joe Root...

And yet Smith selected again and again and again despite not having good record or strike rate...

 

[Smbhayi]

There are more chances of Mumbai Indians picking up Naseem Shah for 20M USD than Amir or Sharjeel getting even a base bid.

Rcb will go for Amir, amir just need to put some past pic in twitter..

 

[Mamoon]

Not after getting humiliated by Zimbabwe.

IPL franchises will not take note of an innings against a bunch of bowlers who are not good enough to get IPL contracts.

There are better local and foreign batsmen than Babar in IPL and he doesn’t add anything to the league which is already a bigger brand than Pakistan cricket itself.

Besides, it is not even about performance. It is the aftermath of PCB’s arrogance and delusion in 2009.

 

[Mamoon]

The comparison with Tom Brady is highly inappropriate. Babar does not have 1% the status and legacy in cricket that Brady does in NFL.

 

[Saurav]

no franchise will go for foreign specialist opener who is not a big hitter

Shaheen has better chance

 

[Banton10]

No team will want an opner who will play 40(40) type inning 3-4 times in 14 matches.

 

[Mamoon]

We should not kid ourselves – we treat Babar like a king because we are a joke of a team with no batting talent, but in India, he will only be viewed as a decent batsman and nothing more.

Depending on the franchise, he could regularly find himself on the bench as well, like Williamson does at SRH.

We should not forget that Joe Root was snubbed by IPL franchises in spite of having an excellent WT20 in India where he helped England chase 230 against South Africa.

Babar is at the same level as the support cast of Indian batting. The likes of Kohli and Sharma are simply in a different league.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

We should not kid ourselves – we treat Babar like a king because we are a joke of a team with no batting talent, but in India, he will only be viewed as a decent batsman and nothing more.

Depending on the franchise, he could regularly find himself on the bench as well, like Williamson does at SRH.

We should not forget that Joe Root was snubbed by IPL franchises in spite of having an excellent WT20 in India where he helped England chase 230 against South Africa.

Babar is at the same level as the support cast of Indian batting. The likes of Kohli and Sharma are simply in a different league.

Kane was injured that's why he did not play for first 3 games.

 

[shamaan]

No team will want an opner who will play 40(40) type inning 3-4 times in 14 matches.

He will be allowed to express himself if he ever did play in the ipl

 

[The lone Ranger]

No.1 player David Malan has been warming up the bench for 4 matches in a row. No way would babar get a chance in the playing eleven in the first half of the tournament.

 

[MenInG]

The world's fastest pacer also expressed his view on how big it would be to see Babar Azam play with Virat Kohli in the IPL.

"It would be great to see Babar Azam and Virat Kohli opening the innings together in the IPL one day," Akhtar said.

What an exciting moment that would be. In the auction, Babar would go for 15-20 crore INR and could be the most expensive Pakistan player," Akhtar added.a

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/n...-worth-15-20-crores-in-ipl-says-shoaib-akhtar

 

[cric64]

The world's fastest pacer also expressed his view on how big it would be to see Babar Azam play with Virat Kohli in the IPL.

"It would be great to see Babar Azam and Virat Kohli opening the innings together in the IPL one day," Akhtar said.

What an exciting moment that would be. In the auction, Babar would go for 15-20 crore INR and could be the most expensive Pakistan player," Akhtar added.a

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/n...-worth-15-20-crores-in-ipl-says-shoaib-akhtar

Although I am not sure about the 15-20 crore thing, but it will certainly be a delight to watch Babar play alongside Kohli and company. A great player and a thorough gentleman.

 

[sweep_shot]

I don't think so.

The issue is political.

 

[MenInG]

In an interaction on the Peshawar Zalmi podcast, Babar was asked to choose the better league between IPL and BBL. Babar, who has played in neither of the leagues yet in his career, picked the Australian T20 league.

''The conditions over there in Australia are different. The pitches over there are really fast and you get to learn a lot. Whereas in IPL, you get the same Asian conditions,''

 

[topspin]

Bottling big matches with 42 off 36 ball type performances isn't going to help the elevate the status of Pakistani batsmen in T20 cricket.

IPL aren't missing out Babar nor are they missing out on Rizwan.

 

[Rana]

Yep I don’t think the IPL need an overseas player who strikes at 110-120 against proper bowling attacks

 

[ArabKnight]

Babar Azam doesn’t play international T20 leagues.

He doesn’t play CPL, BBL, BPL, etc.

Why is he dodging these tournaments?

 

[topspin]

Babar Azam would be more suited for the upcoming Ramadhan Cup.

 

[Rana]

Forget IPL, not sure if his performances cut it for PSL.

Babar Azam would be more suited for the upcoming Ramadhan Cup.

I’m sure Rizwan is playing that. The very next day after a Pakistan match

 

[topspin]

I’m sure Rizwan is playing that. The very next day after a Pakistan match

I would much rather watch him and Babar in the Ramadhan Cup. At least they can boss that.

 

[IMMY69]

Captaincy aside he's still head and shoulders above any batsman Pakistan has produced in the last decade or so and one of the very best batsmen in the world.

You have to be an imbicile not to enjoy his batting especially when in full flow.

 

[Rana]

Captaincy aside he's still head and shoulders above any batsman Pakistan has produced in the last decade or so and one of the very best batsmen in the world.

You have to be an imbicile not to enjoy his batting especially when in full flow.

Yes in Tests and ODI.

Aesthetics have no value in T20 cricket

 

[ArabKnight]

I’m sure Rizwan is playing that. The very next day after a Pakistan match

A helicopter from his compound in Peshawar will embark to some local ground in Karachi. It will land on the outskirts of the inner circle of the field. Rizwan will step out of helicopter in full batting gear, a bat in his hand, & have exuding confidence.

He will slowly stroll onto the pitch & casually get into his batting stance to open the innings. Everyone stares intently with extreme astonishment of what they are witnessing. Totally unbeknownst to everyone, including the opposing team, that this will occur. A story to be remembered by future generations. Ahhh, yes, indeed. This is the chronicles of Rizwan.

 

[Suleiman]

Hilarious thread. Some Babar and Rizwan fans really live in a mini fantasy land. These fans unfortunately unknowingly bring the criticism upon their favorites.

Babar and Rizwan are alright t20 players. Average or above average in terms of the entire world, arguably some of the best IN Pakistan only. Babar is somewhere at the bottom of sixes hit by t20 batsmen across the world internationally, and is far from an ATG or anything in the format, so yea im sure IPL would gobble him up.

 

[Suleiman]

We should not kid ourselves – we treat Babar like a king because we are a joke of a team with no batting talent, but in India, he will only be viewed as a decent batsman and nothing more.

Depending on the franchise, he could regularly find himself on the bench as well, like Williamson does at SRH.

We should not forget that Joe Root was snubbed by IPL franchises in spite of having an excellent WT20 in India where he helped England chase 230 against South Africa.

Babar is at the same level as the support cast of Indian batting. The likes of Kohli and Sharma are simply in a different league.

Most Pak fans have awoken to reality. It’s just a small vocal minority that call him king etc, only because they are so starved and desperate a batsman to get behind

 

[topspin]

Hilarious thread. Some Babar and Rizwan fans really live in a mini fantasy land. These fans unfortunately unknowingly bring the criticism upon their favorites.

Babar and Rizwan are alright t20 players. Average or above average in terms of the entire world, arguably some of the best IN Pakistan only. Babar is somewhere at the bottom of sixes hit by t20 batsmen across the world internationally, and is far from an ATG or anything in the format, so yea im sure IPL would gobble him up.

But according to [MENTION=143541]KingOfPakBreakfast[/MENTION] anyone with this view has an agenda against Babar and Rizwan.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

But according to [MENTION=143541]KingOfPakBreakfast[/MENTION] anyone with this view has an agenda against Babar and Rizwan.

I actually agree with [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] ‘s view of Babar and Riz’s current ability.

People like to live in a polarised world and jump into camps. I like to be objective about players.

At the end of the day I’m a Pakistan fan rather than a camp X or a camp Y fan. It’s not that deep.

 

[topspin]

I actually agree with [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] ‘s view of Babar and Riz’s current ability.

People like to live in a polarised world and jump into camps. I like to be objective about players.

At the end of the day I’m a Pakistan fan rather than a camp X or a camp Y fan. It’s not that deep.

I agree it's not that deep. That's why you shouldn't draw conclusions such as "you have an agenda against Babar and Rizwan".

I don't rate them for cricketing reasons. If I had an agenda against Babar, I wouldn't want him in the Test and ODI team. Also, I wouldn't regard Babar as an ODI ATG.

I used to like Rizwan and was desperate for him to play in the 2019 WC (which he should've) but he's been a let down with the bat after his brief purple patch.

 

[Rana]

[MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION]

Babar and Rizwan not sold in hundred draft









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[Cric1234]

[MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION]

Babar and Rizwan not sold in hundred draft









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People in England must have seen their batting vs Reece Topley and Mark Wood in a few matches against England followed by the World Cup in Australia unlike biased Pakistan fans they have proper analysts who can work out weak bowling statpadders versus batsmen who can actually score quickly against better bowling.

 

[topspin]

In all seriousness, time for Babar and Rizwan fan club to get to grips with reality.

The English understand modern demands of T20 cricket so it comes to no surprise that they've not been sold in the Hundred draft.

Only Misbah fans and other Pakistan cricket fans stuck in the past, rate this T20 opening pair.