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Polygraph tests are known for their unreliability، their evidence can't be used and are being phased out in the West. Why are they still using it in Pakistan
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Polygraph tests are known for their unreliability، their evidence can't be used and are being phased out in the West. Why are they still using it in Pakistan
Noor’s mural defaced in Sialkot. I believe that there is so much hatred against women that even dead women are not spared.This is a direct result of decades of deep-rooted patriarchy and misogyny.
Seriously, this is a moronic post on your behalf.
You are talking about a country of 220 million people with literacy rate of 60%.
What else do you expect?
Yes, we have many, many typical problems that any third world country has, and yes we have our own growing pains but can't you see the opposite side of the coin?
If there is one incident of graffiti that must be condemned but then there is also an uproar in many areas of the entire country where people are supporting the victim and their family and demanding for justice. The PM himself is following up on this case.
The monster is locked up and on physical remand, there isn't seem to be a way out for him.
What else do we want IN THIS PARTICULAR case? Let the justice take it's course, and then we will talk.
And now, don't be among the sissies opposing death penalty when it's handed to him, and you start acting like a puppet deeming it to be cruel and brutal because some in the western world think so.
The same PM who enables and emboldens such acts of violence against women by saying that men are not robots and linking rape with choice of clothing. The same PM who has referred the domestic bill to the CII. The same PM who lacks the guts to speak about the widespread violence against women be it honour killings, rapes and acid attacks. The same PM who says women are treated very well in Pakistan compared to the West. We are the fourth worst country on this planet to be a woman but our PM downplays the plight of women in this country.
I can say with a lot of conviction that Imran Khan’s government narrative of women and its constant moral policing has given a freehand to abusers.
Just yesterday, protests organised for Noor were not given the green light to proceed. It it basically the state telling its women to be silent and wait to be murdered or assaulted.
What exactly do you want to happen in this particular case in the OP? Can you focus and precisely try to state your point in short and brief?
At least acknowledge the widespread violence against women, draw up policy regarding women protection, educate the masses, stop morally policing women and pass the domestic violence bill.
I just hope they hang this animal as quick as possible and start executing all the child molesters, rapists and kidnappers etc so all this sick breed of individuals actually start thinking about the consequence before doing such heinous crimes. Arresting and imprisonment isn't going to change anyone.
Probably true.
We already have an explosive growth in population. Why not reduce it a little by putting convicted rapists, killers and pedophiles to death?
I have no sympathy for these sick monsters. The world will be a better place without them.
Zahirs Father charged with the case to abetment or not?
The Islamabad High Court on Thursday conducted a hearing on the bail petition of parents of Zahir Jaffer — the prime suspect in Noor Mukadam's killing — with the defence counsel casting doubts on the police probe, saying it had “grey areas”.
Justice Amer Farooq Kayani heard the case in which Khawaja Haris, representing Zakir Jaffer and Asmat Adamjee, told the court that the police were solely relying on statements given by Zahir.
“Police didn’t speak to my clients ever since their remand was granted by the court,” he said.
Zahir’s parents were taken into custody on July 25 following the arrest of their son for allegedly concealing material facts from the investigation team. Subsequently, they had approached a district and sessions court for bail.
The sessions court had on Aug 5 dismissed the post-arrest bail applications of Zahir’s parents and observed that they had abetted the murder and had attempted to conceal material evidence.
The investigators, in a challan submitted to the sessions court on Sep 9, said Zahir had contacted his father, who was in Karachi, on the phone four times on the day of the incident on July 20 and the latter knew about Noor’s illegal detention and the situation at their home.
The challan said his parents never informed the police, and even after their son beheaded the girl, his father Zakir Jaffer tried to relax the murderer and told him: “You need not worry, I can handle this, I am sending people to rescue you and to dispose of the dead body."
According to the investigation report of Islamabad police, later, Zakir had sent five Therapyworks employees to his residence, where they tried to conceal the crime and attempted to destroy the evidence.
In the case hearing today, the defence counsel pointed out that while it was admissible that suspect Zahir called his parents, “but it could not be said what was talked about during the conversation.”
He said it was also not clear whether Zahir had informed his parents about the murder. “Even if it is known, and Therapyworks employees went there to destroy the evidence, the case [against parents] is still not justified,” Haris told the court.
The counsel said police only sought a two-day physical remand of Zahir’s parents, adding that the investigators could have sought a longer remand had there been enough evidence against them.
“It is written in the police challan that Zahir Jaffer informed his parents after the murder and they sent Therapyworks employees to the spot,” he argued.
He said the murder couldn’t have been assisted if it had already taken place.
“The police also mentioned in its report that the gardener prevented Noor from leaving the house, however, it is another debate that the gardener was not present there,” Haris claimed.
The counsel insisted there were “grey areas” in the police probe.
Before adjourning the hearing till Friday, the court asked Haris whether the Therapyworks employees were nominated in the case as suspects to which the counsel replied in the affirmative.
He also told the court that he would try to wrap up arguments in the case by tomorrow.
Noor, 27, daughter of former Pakistani diplomat Shaukat Mukadam, was found murdered at a residence in Islamabad's upscale Sector F-7/4 on July 20.
A first information report (FIR) was registered later the same day against Zahir Jaffer, who was arrested from the site of the murder, under Section 302 (premeditated murder) of the Pakistan Penal Code on the complaint of the victim's father.
In his complaint, Shaukat Mukadam had stated that he had gone to Rawalpindi on July 19 to buy a goat for Eidul Azha, while his wife had gone out to pick up clothes from her tailor. When he had returned home in the evening, the couple found their daughter Noor absent from their house in Islamabad.
They had found her cellphone number to be switched off, and started a search for her. Sometime later, Noor had called her parents to inform them that she was travelling to Lahore with some friends and would return in a day or two, according to the FIR, a copy of which is available with Dawn.com.
The complainant said he had later received a call from the suspect, son of Zakir Jaffer, whose family were the ex-diplomat's acquaintances. The suspect had informed Shaukat that Noor was not with him, the FIR said.
At around 10pm on July 20, the victim's father had received a call from Kohsar police station, informing him that Noor had been murdered.
Police had subsequently taken the complainant to Zahir's house in Sector F-7/4 where he discovered that his "daughter has been brutally murdered with a sharp-edged weapon and beheaded", according to the FIR.
Mukadam, who identified his daughter's body, has sought the maximum punishment under the law against Zahir for allegedly murdering his daughter.
The guys family and lawyers are working overdrive to exploit every single legal loophole to get him off on the insanity plea.
Any medical evidence that he is insane?
Even if there was, is it right to let him off on the murder charge? Whether someone is insane or not, once you commit murder, you deserve capital punishment or life imprisonment period
Court sentences Zahir Jaffer to death for murder of Noor Mukadam
A sessions court in Islamabad on Thursday sentenced primary suspect Zahir Jaffer to death for the murder of Noor Mukadam.
Zahir's household staff Iftikhar and Jameel — both co-accused in the case — were sentenced to 10 years in jail, while all others, including Zahir's parents and TherapyWorks employees, were acquitted.
Additional Sessions Judge Ata Rabbani announced the verdict, which was reserved on Tuesday following months of hearings.
Zahir, his father Zakir Jaffer, mother Asmat Adamjee and other suspects were present in the court when the verdict was announced.
Noor, 27, was found murdered at Jaffar's residence in the capital's upscale Sector F-7/4 on July 20 last year. A first information report (FIR) was registered the same day against Zahir Jaffer — the primary accused who was arrested from the site of the murder — under Section 302 (premeditated murder) of the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) on the complaint of the victim's father, Shaukat Mukadam, who is a retired diplomat.
Ahead of the verdict today, Zahir was brought to the court along with the other co-accused — Zakir Jaffer (Zahir's father), Iftikhar (watchman) and Jan Mohammad (gardener).
The lawyers, plaintiff Shaukat and other co-accused who are out on bail, including Therapy Works employees and Zahir's mother Asmat Adamjee, also arrived at the court.
After the court marked the attendance of Therapy Works employees, the judge ordered for the courtroom to be emptied, saying he needed to speak to the defendants. The quartet of detained accused, including Zahir, were later sent back from the court once the judge was done with them.
Case history
After the FIR was registered in the case and Zahir was arrested, his parents and household staff were also taken into custody by police on July 24 over allegations of "hiding evidence and being complicit in the crime". They were made a part of the investigation based on Noor's father's statement.
In his complaint, Shaukat had stated that he had gone to Rawalpindi on July 19 to buy a goat for Eidul Azha, while his wife had gone out to pick up clothes from her tailor. When he had returned home in the evening, the couple found their daughter Noor absent from their house in Islamabad.
They had found her cellphone number switched off and started a search for her. Sometime later, Noor had called her parents to inform them that she was travelling to Lahore with some friends and would return in a day or two, according to the FIR.
The complainant said he had later received a call from Zahir, whose family were their acquaintances. The suspect had informed Shaukat that Noor was not with him, the FIR said.
At around 10pm on July 20, the victim's father had received a call from Kohsar police station, informing him that Noor had been murdered.
Police had subsequently taken the complainant to Zahir's house in Sector F-7/4 where he discovered that his "daughter has been brutally murdered with a sharp-edged weapon and beheaded", according to the FIR.
Shaukat, who identified his daughter's body, has sought the maximum punishment under the law against Zahir for allegedly murdering his daughter.
Police later said that Zahir had confessed to killing Noor while his DNA test and fingerprints also showed his involvement in the murder.
Six officials of Therapy Works, whose employees had visited the site of the murder before police, were also nominated in the case and were indicted with six others, including Zahir Jaffer's parents, in October.
Talking to the media after the last hearing, Noor's father, Shaukat Mukadam, had said that he sought "maximum punishment" for the accused and reposed his confidence in Judge Ata Rabbani.
"He has conducted a fair and transparent trial," Shaukat had said of the judge's handling of the case, adding that he was "completely satisfied" with the investigation despite "some ups and downs" as he also commended the police for operating "under pressure".
"It was a difficult time but I had full faith in my daughter. Noor Mukadam was a good girl and she was not involved in anything wrong," Shaukat said.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1676810/court-sentences-zahir-jaffer-to-death-in-noor-mukadam-murder-case
Good but two items are missing.
1 - Absolutely no right to appeal against the verdict to Supreme Court or to the PM
2 - The penalty must be handed over in a week’s time. No exceptions!
Even the worst criminal has the right to appeal all the way up to SC.... that is just how the law works. Good thing is that the initial judgement is a death penalty, so any court hearing the appeal can at max convert it to life in prison (I sure hope not). No way this monster is getting off scot free.
Goes to show if the law takes its course, even the monster's wealth and influence could not save him. I wish our courts were this swift and just when presiding over cases of other influentials, political or otherwise.
Shahrukh Jatoi got a death sentence, he is still living a lavish protected life and the death sentence has been lifted. The victim, his father have passed away and most likely the victims family have put the saga behind them.
Won't be surprised to see Zahir Jaffar get off on some legal loophole or the other down the line