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Cow slaughter, India’s gau rakshaks (cow vigilantes), and lynchings

No need to abandon secular laws, you can just ignore them and put faith in the Indian courts to deliver a sympathetic verdict to Hindutvas.

These are Indian courts, they have sent ministers, chief ministers to jail. I know the concept of independent judiciary is alien to our neighbours, where everything is viewed with religious glasses.
 
Disgusting creatures, they even made the guy hit a female accompanying him. They must be proud of themselves, how brave of them to gang up on weak looking humans.
 
These are Indian courts, they have sent ministers, chief ministers to jail. I know the concept of independent judiciary is alien to our neighbours, where everything is viewed with religious glasses.

Your neighbours have also sent Pakistani ministers to jail, so I guess your neighbours judiciary must be as independent and free of religious tint as your own marvellous Indian courts.
 
Your neighbours have also sent Pakistani ministers to jail, so I guess your neighbours judiciary must be as independent and free of religious tint as your own marvellous Indian courts.

Neighbours have a very miniscule minority population.
 
Yeap, I have my suspicion that Pulwama may have been a setup, however I have no evidence to back it up...... Let me tell you the scenario here, even if there was all the proof in the world that Pulwama was a setup, I would still prefer Modi over little boy Rahul Gandhi

Your thinking truly deserves a

:salute
 
These are Indian courts, they have sent ministers, chief ministers to jail. I know the concept of independent judiciary is alien to our neighbours, where everything is viewed with religious glasses.

Religious glasses? India elected a PM because he stoke religion.

Get out of here with your ignorance. Lol
 
India is going down the drain as a secular nation as expected.

Thanks to all the Modi supporters and so called gau rakshaks who take law in their hands. Thanks to Pragya Thakur also. :inti
 
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Modi has nothing to do with any of this. He can't keep a watch on every incident in the country, neither he asked the culprits to process the act.

Yes he asked them to so because an act of silence will be followed by him for such crimes.
 
Religious glasses? India elected a PM because he stoke religion.

Get out of here with your ignorance. Lol
Other reasons why he won :

He saved indian people from Pakistan.
He killed 300 terrorists.
He brought back Shri Abhinandan Ji to India like a boss.
He has helped google wipe Pakistan out from their google maps.

Rockstar Shri Narendra Modi Ji ki Jai Ho.

:inti
 
I never thought I would say this but I wish the subcontinent had been partitioned effectively. A Muslim country, a Hindu country, an independent North East and Dravida Nadu, maybe (depending on referendum) more like Khalistan, Balochistan, tribal country etc. There will never be peace here in current setup. Maybe with 5-6 separate countries we could have enjoyed more internal peace, better external relations and been in an EU like arrangement. Things are going to only get worse with rising population, unemployment, divisions, religious extremism and less resources per capita.
 
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Thanks to all the Modi supporters and so called gau rakshaks who take law in their hands. Thanks to Pragya Thakur also. :inti

From the India of Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Azad, Rajaji to one of Modi, Shah, Yogi, Maharaj, Pragya. What a great fall this democracy has seen. Indians were never like this, BJP and RSS have infected our citizens with hate virus. Even if they are defeated it will take decades to undo the harm. Opposition parties are now so scared of being seen as enemies of Hindus that they are preferring silence when these incidents happen. Hatred will lead us nowhere, I can not believe educated Indian PPers are defending the extremists.
 
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From the India of Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Azad, Rajaji to one of Modi, Shah, Yogi, Maharaj, Pragya. What a great fall this democracy has seen. Indians were never like this, BJP and RSS have infected our citizens with hate virus. Even if they are defeated it will take decades to undo the harm. Opposition parties are now so scared of being seen as enemies of Hindus that they are preferring silence when these incidents happen. Hatred will lead us nowhere, I can not believe educated Indian PPers are defending the extremists.

Biggest threat to India.

India is a special country, no amount of money will be able to turn back this hate fill politics and rhetoric.

India's biggest threat is internal not from external.
 
Out of curiosity, what is his religion according to you?

Dont know. But it certainly is hinduism. His mother is a catholic. His father was born to a Parsi father and a brahmin mother. Hinduism is inherited through lineage of ones father.

Rahul Gandhi claimed the gotra of Nehru when he was in a temple. He surely hasnt inherited that.
 
Dont know. But it certainly is hinduism. His mother is a catholic. His father was born to a Parsi father and a brahmin mother. Hinduism is inherited through lineage of ones father.

Rahul Gandhi claimed the gotra of Nehru when he was in a temple. He surely hasnt inherited that.

Meant to say, Is it certainly Hinduism?
 
Dont know. But it certainly is hinduism. His mother is a catholic. His father was born to a Parsi father and a brahmin mother. Hinduism is inherited through lineage of ones father.

Rahul Gandhi claimed the gotra of Nehru when he was in a temple. He surely hasnt inherited that.

Rahul Gandhi says he’s Hindu Brahmin
 
Dont know. But it certainly is hinduism. His mother is a catholic. His father was born to a Parsi father and a brahmin mother. Hinduism is inherited through lineage of ones father.

Rahul Gandhi claimed the gotra of Nehru when he was in a temple. He surely hasnt inherited that.

It's only Brahmins for whom this passing down through son thing applies. And even there, there are examples you see where this has not been followed and fellow Brahmins are fine with it.

You're a Hindu if you believe you are Hindu. If Rahul truly believes he's a Hindu, he's Hindu.
 
Congress is the ruling party in Madhya Pradesh. What is the government doing to prevent such crimes?
 
It's only Brahmins for whom this passing down through son thing applies. And even there, there are examples you see where this has not been followed and fellow Brahmins are fine with it.

You're a Hindu if you believe you are Hindu. If Rahul truly believes he's a Hindu, he's Hindu.

All hindus inherit their fathers caste and gotra.

Yes if he believes he is a hindu he can be a hindu, but he cant convenietly claim Nehru's caste and gotra.
 
How on earth has this devolved into a thread on whether Rahul Gandhi is Hindu or not? :13:

BJP 2.0 off to a great start by their standards, kudos :14:
 
No, because you will not understand it if I have to tell you this, it is better for me not to tell you anything at all. :faf

Some of you have a very warped sense of what secularism means. Hence no answers but just deflect.
 
Cow slaughter is banned. Not eating beef.

Try again.

The only reason cow slaughter is banned is because cow is revered in the Hindu religion and hence a national government enacting laws based on the beliefs of a certain religion, any religion be it of the majority, is against the very idea of secularism. You need to educate yourself before you act like an expert.
 
All hindus inherit their fathers caste and gotra.

Yes if he believes he is a hindu he can be a hindu, but he cant convenietly claim Nehru's caste and gotra.

In 21st century educated secular india we are talking about caste and how they can only be inherited from fathers
 
BJP MP terms death of 19 year old in Belagavi as murder by cow smugglers; Post-mortem confirms suicide

“Shivu Uppar, a 19Yr old boy was murdered &hanged in Bagewadi Bus stand in Belagavi. He was hacked to death just for protecting cows from the cow smugglers, that was the only mistake he did. I demand CM to deal this sternly & arrest the culprits.”

The above message has been tweeted by BJP MP from Karnataka, Shobha Karandlaje, along with disturbing images of a young boy hanging from his neck.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shivu Uppar, a 19Yr old boy was murdered &hanged in Bagewadi Bus stand in Belagavi.<br><br>He was hacked to death just for protecting cows from the cow smugglers, that was the only mistake he did.<br><br>I demand CM to deal this sternly & arrest the culprits.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OmShanthi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OmShanthi</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForShivuUppar?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JusticeForShivuUppar</a> <a href="https://t.co/xIwU5Zavlq">pic.twitter.com/xIwU5Zavlq</a></p>— Shobha Karandlaje (@ShobhaBJP) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShobhaBJP/status/1132649540484341768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Karandlaje’s tweet has been retweeted over 2000 times since it was posted on May 26. Several individual users have shared this message on Twitter, that Shivu Uppar was hacked to death because he was protecting cows from cow smugglers, in effect giving a communal turn to the incident. The tweet below, posted by a user has been retweeted over 2000 times so far.

The message has also been shared on Facebook by a page Justice For Hindus. The fake news website Dainik Bharat has also published an article stating that Uppar was killed by cow smugglers.


Post-mortem report confirms suicide

The claim that 19 year old Shivu Uppar was murdered by cow smugglers is false. This has been confirmed by Commissioner of Police, Belgaum. In a conversation with Alt News, B S Lokesh Kumar, Commissioner of Police, Belagavi (Belgaum) said, “It is a case of suicide. We have received the post mortem report. It clearly says ‘suicide by hanging”. Moreover there are no injury marks on the body of the deceased, according to the report“. He added, “The deceased had a quarrel with his family. The family members have given a complaint saying the boy committed suicide. Unnecessarily, people are spreading false news for which SP Belgavi has taken action.”

Alt News also spoke to Sudheer Kumar Reddy, SP Belgaum, who confirmed that two persons have been arrested on the charge of spreading fake news that the youth was killed by cow smugglers. The same has been reported by News18.

19 year old Shivu Uppar, according to the post-mortem report, had committed suicide. The BJP MP from Karnataka had earlier indulged in misinformation when the death of a youngster in December 2017 had been falsely portrayed as ‘murder by jihadi elements’.

https://www.altnews.in/bjp-mp-terms...y-cow-smugglers-post-mortem-confirms-suicide/
 
Some of you have a very warped sense of what secularism means. Hence no answers but just deflect.

I can't say about anyone else, but I am sure what I am talking about, but whatever makes you sleep well at night.

Like I mentioned before I am not fond of wasting on people who just read something to counter it rather than understanding it or you can say, nationalists who are proud of something they didn't choose.
 
India’s ‘cow vigilantes’

A mob in eastern India has beaten to death three men suspected of trying to steal cattle, police say.

They say the suspects were caught by villagers in the Bihar state as they were trying to load a buffalo and a calf onto a lorry on Friday morning.

This is the latest in a spate of "cow vigilante" attacks that have provoked alarm among religious minorities and socially underprivileged classes.

Hindus consider cows sacred and killing them is taboo.


Media captionNawal Kishore Sharma explains how the vigilante patrols work
Three villagers were later arrested in connection with the lynching.

The Hindu chant that became a murder cry
A night patrol with India's cow protection vigilantes
How WhatsApp helped turn an Indian village into a lynch mob
Is India descending into mob rule?
Critics have accused the governing Hindu-nationalist BJP of not doing enough to rein in such violence.

Several dozen people have been killed and hundreds injured in mob attacks since 2014, when the BJP came to power, but there have been convictions in only a handful of cases.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi has been criticised for not condemning the attacks quickly or strongly enough.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49049372
 
3rd class people doing 3rd class things in a 3rd class country. This is undefendable.

A country where the worth of a human is less than cattle.

All the liberal ****** who might be happy with this situation must remember that these goons will also start targeting youngsters for holding hands and lovers in parks. But wait, they have already been doing this for a while now.

India slowly getting talibanized by Hindu extremists. I know some of my friends who are pro-bjp who do not make a noise when these things happen. But troll congress and bad mouth other parties for being pseudo secular.

21 cities in India will be running out of water in the next few years. But people are more worried about what someone is planning on eating.
 
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Isn't this the India you wanted.

I know many secular liberals who voted for BJP. But those guys are all Hindus. They were looking for someone who can lead the country to great heights and they saw Modi as the man. These guys will never face the Cow vigilante attacks. Poor low class Muslims are the ones that get targeted. Nobody really cares about them.
 
Look at this photo - relatives of the dead literally begging the police to take action. Because they know that many times the police look the other way when it comes to these killings.

Vile vile human beings these cowards are and those who encourage and enable them are just as bad.

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[MENTION=7898]Gabbar Singh[/MENTION], based on the photo, as I guessed, these Muslims are low caste ones. They are a soft target for the chaddi brigade.
 
RIP tragic.

Sadly with pandit brigade Modi and BNP in charge again, this will only increase. Hindu extremists see this as an opportunity to attack Muslims.

They dont care about cows othewise India wouldnt export so much beef.
 
Those Muslims should migrate to Muslim countries (if possible). No need to stay in India and get killed.
 
This is why the support for Khalistan is gaining momentum among Pakistanis around the world. After Indian Muslims, they will come for Sikhs next.
 
This is why the support for Khalistan is gaining momentum among Pakistanis around the world. After Indian Muslims, they will come for Sikhs next.

If both Muslims and Sikhs joined forces in India, they could overtime take over India from Hindu radicals. Lets be real, Hindus are not renowoned for combat.
 
This is why the support for Khalistan is gaining momentum among Pakistanis around the world. After Indian Muslims, they will come for Sikhs next.

I think there was a rise in attacks committed against Sikhs in parts of India in the aftermath of Operation Bluestar. Correct me if i’m wrong.
 
I think there was a rise in attacks committed against Sikhs in parts of India in the aftermath of Operation Bluestar. Correct me if i’m wrong.

There was but it's not at the full scale because the primary targets of these mobs are Muslims, if they accomplish their mission which is to wipe/drive out Muslims from "their land", the next targets will be Sikhs.
 
...and Indians here lecture us Pakistanis on human rights issues when such things are now happening there every day. I am sure Indian Muslim's will now clearly understand why Pakistan was formed, right Owaisi bro's?? No matter how much they hate Pakistan these lynchings are not stopping anytime soon. The Indian police is now infested with RSS thugs and hooligans as well looking on when such attacks take place, they smile and make jokes instead of helping the victims. Just a matter of time before some big Muslim celebrity suffers the same fate then the whole thing is gonna explode.
 
If both Muslims and Sikhs joined forces in India, they could overtime take over India from Hindu radicals. Lets be real, Hindus are not renowoned for combat.

You mean if 20% of the population join hands, they can defeat 80% of people? :facepalm:

I like how you are combining Muslims and Sikhs. The radicals on both sides will be killing each other given a chance. Heck, Muslims themselves are so fragmented. The delusion is too much here.
 
...and Indians here lecture us Pakistanis on human rights issues when such things are now happening there every day. I am sure Indian Muslim's will now clearly understand why Pakistan was formed, right Owaisi bro's?? No matter how much they hate Pakistan these lynchings are not stopping anytime soon. The Indian police is now infested with RSS thugs and hooligans as well looking on when such attacks take place, they smile and make jokes instead of helping the victims. Just a matter of time before some big Muslim celebrity suffers the same fate then the whole thing is gonna explode.

Indians have no moral authority or high ground to lecture anyone. We are a shameful society who aspire to be like West. But the Jahil elements in the society are too stupid and radicalized to let that happen anytime soon.
 
You mean if 20% of the population join hands, they can defeat 80% of people? :facepalm:

I like how you are combining Muslims and Sikhs. The radicals on both sides will be killing each other given a chance. Heck, Muslims themselves are so fragmented. The delusion is too much here.

40,000 British troops were only need to occupy the whole of India. It's an easy place to take over, just see it's history.

Something has to give soon, Hindu extremists cant continue this barbarism.
 
Fair to say that both Pakistan and India are countries with a bad human rights record. There’s too much whataboutism on both sides.
 
What happens when/if a Salman or Shahrukh Khan is attacked like this?. For sure Pak has an abysmal human rights record as well but we are not beating up and lynching non Muslims like minorities are suffering in India. We are not trying to change their eating habits either. I have no problem when the standard bearers of the developed world lectures and condemns Pak on human rights issues at all. India for goodness sake you gotta be kiddin' me seeing all that goes on there! I'd be damned to listen to those hypocrites.
 
Modi for Pakistan has been the best thing to happen, he is utterly ruining India and taking India down a path from which we have only just starting coming back ourselves. The day Indian Muslims commit terror attacks Indian will blame Pakistan, forgetting the trouble being formented right now has nothing to do with Pakistan.
 
Disgusting to be honest, many minorities who are oppressed made their feelings very clear during the World Cup. It's actually a blessing that England defeated India, I love it when good triumphs over evil; doesn't always happen but I enjoyed this tournament
 
I guess this must be the Indian lifestyle that Mamoon was lamenting over. If Nawaz Sharif had stayed in power maybe one day all Pakistanis could have got a taste of the high life. :(
 
Indian muslims love their country.

Let them deal with this, India is a democracy and I think there will be a course correction at some point.
 
I know many secular liberals who voted for BJP. But those guys are all Hindus. They were looking for someone who can lead the country to great heights and they saw Modi as the man. These guys will never face the Cow vigilante attacks. Poor low class Muslims are the ones that get targeted. Nobody really cares about them.

On twitter, facebook etc. you can see thousands of comments by people, who seem pretty educated and well versed in English, defending such acts and saying all sorts of communal things. What do you make of that? Just go to any of such news post on twitter or facebook and then read the comments and you will know what i am talking about. Its as if all the educated psuedo-secular people have come out of closet now that hindutva politics is getting more power in India. If the educated people speak like this, then thats a really scary situation.
 
Look at this photo - relatives of the dead literally begging the police to take action. Because they know that many times the police look the other way when it comes to these killings.

Vile vile human beings these cowards are and those who encourage and enable them are just as bad.

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You are forgetting one thing here.

Many a times police file cases against the victims themselves and put charges of cow slaugher/smuggling on them. These people might be begging for them not do that.
 
[MENTION=7898]Gabbar Singh[/MENTION], based on the photo, as I guessed, these Muslims are low caste ones. They are a soft target for the chaddi brigade.

2 Hindus and 1 Muslims, I just read the news. This piece doesn't tell you about that the 2 of the 3 were Hindus. It is the mob justice mentality of people which is shocking. The laws of land should take care of these rougue elements.

Also people shout of killing publicly rapists and murders, this mentality also needs to stop. Indian people are very immature democracy yet.
 
2 Hindus and 1 Muslims, I just read the news. This piece doesn't tell you about that the 2 of the 3 were Hindus. It is the mob justice mentality of people which is shocking. The laws of land should take care of these rougue elements.

Also people shout of killing publicly rapists and murders, this mentality also needs to stop. Indian people are very immature democracy yet.

It is a law and order problem. Hardly shocking, when the laws of the land don't protect people from cattle thieves and smugglers, just a matter of time when people went rogue and started breaking the very law which was of no use to them.
 
If both Muslims and Sikhs joined forces in India, they could overtime take over India from Hindu radicals. Lets be real, Hindus are not renowoned for combat.

Lets be real, Muslims are not going to take over India. The sikhs are not friends of the Muslims, all their heroes are known to have killed or fought muslims.

Next time ask your elders what happened in East Pakistan.

You and your islamic supermacist dreams.
 
[MENTION=7898]Gabbar Singh[/MENTION], based on the photo, as I guessed, these Muslims are low caste ones. They are a soft target for the chaddi brigade.

Muslims? Really? Low caste?

Two were hindus and one muslim.

There was no cow there. One Buffalo and then 3 goats were stolen.
 
Surely just a matter of time before the moderate Hindus and the majority of Muslims combine to take over India.
How long before India becomes an Islamic Country?
 
If both Muslims and Sikhs joined forces in India, they could overtime take over India from Hindu radicals. Lets be real, Hindus are not renowoned for combat.

Agreed. After the Balakot airstrikes from India, we need to take a hardline approach, especially as they support separatist movements in Balochistan, KPK and Afghanistan.
 
To many incidents happening lately. Looks like law and order issues in India. Are the people just not happy or satisfied with their lives to turn to this savagery?

We saw the fake news form india media during abhinandans capture and balakot tree massacre. Now it seems continuously we are hearing about lynchings. Where is this society headed? Fake news , watsapp brigades and attacking the marginalized of society.
 
40,000 British troops were only need to occupy the whole of India. It's an easy place to take over, just see it's history.

Something has to give soon, Hindu extremists cant continue this barbarism.

Lol, a good slap on the face of Hinduvita supporters.

Also the muslim demographics share is bigger than what officially get reported. More than 20% of population. Secondly those saying abt fragmented Indian muslims forget to mention that Hindus themselves are much more fragmented along the lines of Caste, Ethnicity etc its common knowledge that Northand South indians dont look eye to eye.
 
40,000 British troops were only need to occupy the whole of India. It's an easy place to take over, just see it's history.

Something has to give soon, Hindu extremists cant continue this barbarism.

Yes which included Pakistan as well. Pakistan area has been won and occupied by various forces throughout history. People of that area give up easily.

The world seem to worry about Islamists at this point in time. Their barbarism globally is causing lots of worries
 
Lol, a good slap on the face of Hinduvita supporters.

Also the muslim demographics share is bigger than what officially get reported. More than 20% of population. Secondly those saying abt fragmented Indian muslims forget to mention that Hindus themselves are much more fragmented along the lines of Caste, Ethnicity etc its common knowledge that Northand South indians dont look eye to eye.

Lol. Did you forget that Pakistan was a part of British India and the muslims were no better in their opposition to British?

Worry about your own country, which has already been broken after 1947. You guys have issues with Pashtuns with Balochs and god knows who else.

It amusing seeing Pakistanis giving lectures on national integration, minority treatement etc.
 
Lol. Did you forget that Pakistan was a part of British India and the muslims were no better in their opposition to British?

Worry about your own country, which has already been broken after 1947. You guys have issues with Pashtuns with Balochs and god knows who else.

It amusing seeing Pakistanis giving lectures on national integration, minority treatement etc.

Indians do the same thing.

How long have we heard the myth for that hindus were at 20% of the population of Pakistan at partition and are now at 2% because Pakistan exterminated or converted them all? :moyo2

Worry about your own country first before you tell others to worry about their country first :smith
 
nothing to be shocked about. this is just another day in Incredible India.
just sit back, relax and enjoy the process of talibanization on our eastern border.

and remember this. these indians, when they die, they get reincarnated as cows.

and bakra eid is fast approaching, the cows will be sacrificed in droves, and there is nothing that the hindutva can do about it.
 
Lol. Did you forget that Pakistan was a part of British India and the muslims were no better in their opposition to British?

Worry about your own country, which has already been broken after 1947. You guys have issues with Pashtuns with Balochs and god knows who else.

It amusing seeing Pakistanis giving lectures on national integration, minority treatement etc.

Irony is that an Indian telling Pakistanis to mind their own business “ON” a Pakistani Forum!

As for human rights violations, its not india’s own business. Its crime against humanity. As usual when the idiots run out of logical arguments to defend a wrong doing, they resort to tactics like these.
 
Yes which included Pakistan as well. Pakistan area has been won and occupied by various forces throughout history. People of that area give up easily.

The world seem to worry about Islamists at this point in time. Their barbarism globally is causing lots of worries

History shows that Indians like to be subjugated and are easily conquered by any invading army. Their Maha rajas were even happy to trade in their daughters to the new rulers to retain some powers (hence many Rajput queens & consorts of mughals) All the muslim rulers of indian arrived with a numerically inferior army but still ended up ruling India for centuries. This is why native Indian kings never conquered or expanded anywhere beyond sub-continent. Infact india itself wasnt a country before Mughals.

Its only 70 years since British left, lets how long can INDIA stay together as a country. Something that didn’t exist before the mughal dynasty.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A 25 year old transporting buffalo meat in a pick up truck from Ghasera to a shop near Gurgaon's Jama Masjid was allegedly beaten with sticks by a group of men this morning. Accused also allegedly misbehaved with police personnel who reached the spot. FIR lodged. <a href="https://twitter.com/IndianExpress?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IndianExpress</a> <a href="https://t.co/UPUXjNfIpm">pic.twitter.com/UPUXjNfIpm</a></p>— Sakshi Dayal (@sakshi_dayal) <a href="https://twitter.com/sakshi_dayal/status/1289187262169636864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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