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"Cricket boards should be sticking to each other and not taking legal recourse" : Ehsan Mani

As the International Cricket Council (ICC) dismissed the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB)’s case against the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) seeking compensation for India’s refusal to play bilateral series, PCB chief, Ehsan Mani, said it is time to move on.

Speaking to Sportstar a while after the ICC’s Dispute Resolution Committee termed the judgement as ‘binding and non-appealable’, Mani made it clear that the Pakistan board will try and restore normalcy.

“My attitude has always been that the cricket boards should be sticking to each other and not taking legal recourse but the situation is what it is,” Mani said.

“We accept the fact that the panel has made a ruling and it did not go in favour of PCB. We will move on from here. For the sake of cricket, both the boards need to get on and we will both put this behind and try and work together if we can,” Mani, who took charge as the PCB chief in September, said.

The PCB, under its then chairman, Dr. Najam Sethi, had claimed damages of approx ₹447 crore for India not playing any bilateral cricket with Pakistan despite a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), which guaranteed six bilateral series between 2015 and 2023.

The BCCI, from the beginning, has asserted that the MoU is not binding on them and a bilateral series can only be possible if the Indian government gives a green light.

While Mani believes that the boards should stick together, does that mean that he disapproves the stand taken by the previous board?

Mani, who has been the chief of the ICC in the past, however, doesn’t want to think that way. “I can’t talk about what the previous management did, but obviously they did it because they thought it was for the right cause. We should now move on, rather than looking back,” Mani said.

The PCB chief also believes that both the boards have ‘responsibility to the game in the end’ and is hopeful that the ‘focus will remain’ there.

With the decision going against the PCB, what are the chances of a bilateral series?

“At the moment, there are a couple of factors in India. Firstly, the Indian general election and secondly, the BCCI’s election. You have got a temporary board at the moment. Once these matters are out of the way, I hope the two boards will sit down together and explore the possibilities of playing each other,” a hopeful Mani said.

Herbert Smith Freehills along with British lawyer QC Ian Mills fought India’s case, while PCB was represented by Khwaja Ahmad Hosain, Advocate Supreme Court of Pakistan, Alexandros Panayides of Clifford Chance, London and Salman Nasser, PCB GM Legal Affairs.

The ICC’s Disputes Panel comprised Michael Beloff QC, Jan Paulsson and Dr Annabelle Bennett.


Link: https://www.sportstarlive.com/cricket/pcb-bcci-icc-dispute-resolution-committee/article25549266.ece
 
I heard this from Mani earlier as well and he's right.

He seems to have some diplomatic acumen.

On the other hand, Sethi totally ruined this thing. Ego too much to handle for him.

Why pick fights when your own previous actions were immature and wrong. He has wasted PCB's cash and also picked up the wrong fight.

Just a sweetened version of ijaz butt.
 
Sethi had to play to the gallery to look good and keep his job. He is, otherwise, a mature and practical person.
 
Lol. If Ehsan Mani and the PCB has decided to move on and suck it up, then no point talking about fighting the BCCI and the ICC anymore.

The more important and relevant question from here is how can the PCB salvage not only salvage its relationship with the BCCI and the ICC but actually get the financial situation of the PCB to the point where it actually looks like the second largest cricketing market in Asia
 
Lol. If Ehsan Mani and the PCB has decided to move on and suck it up, then no point talking about fighting the BCCI and the ICC anymore.

The more important and relevant question from here is how can the PCB salvage not only salvage its relationship with the BCCI and the ICC but actually get the financial situation of the PCB to the point where it actually looks like the second largest cricketing market in Asia

I think it already is. And I'm being serious here.
 
pathetic.

the kissing up begins

Keep the ego aside. It's a very smart move. There is a talk of change in the GOI in next elections. Pak needs the millions of dollars from India series for it's cricket development. The law suit was a failed step to begin with.
 
I think it already is. And I'm being serious here.

Agreed. Bcb despite having this golden opportunity starting 2009 couldn't significantly expand their clout.

No cricket in Pak at all. Financial hit.

Yet.

May have to do with very slow progress of BD national team particularly in Tests and ICC tournaments.
 
PCB made a big, big mistake by deciding against playing Bangladesh. Anyone can see it was all because of ego. It would have definitely been a good money maker.
 
PCB made a big, big mistake by deciding against playing Bangladesh. Anyone can see it was all because of ego. It would have definitely been a good money maker.

Yet another blunder by Sethi just cuz of ego.

I used to think he's smart, practical.

He has basically done what ijaz butt used to do out of ego.
 
Yet another blunder by Sethi just cuz of ego.

I used to think he's smart, practical.

He has basically done what ijaz butt used to do out of ego.

Ego has no place in the real, practical business world. It's all about making smart business decisions. Anyone with any doubt can look up to a certain American millionaire businessman by the name of Vince McMahon.
 
I heard this from Mani earlier as well and he's right.

He seems to have some diplomatic acumen.

On the other hand, Sethi totally ruined this thing. Ego too much to handle for him.

Why pick fights when your own previous actions were immature and wrong. He has wasted PCB's cash and also picked up the wrong fight.

Just a sweetened version of ijaz butt.

Mani has changed his tune since coming to the pcb. He was busy trolling the bcci when he was not in the pcb. Lots of ‘I would do this’ ‘I would do that’
 
BCB has definitely been doing well, but are they really financially doing better than the PCB?

"Bangladesh deserved to get more [revenue] than West Indies, Pakistan and Sri Lanka whichever criteria is being considered," Hassan said. "Performance is not the only factor. My first objective was to increase Bangladesh's share. We agreed on the financial model that not just Bangladesh, everyone else should get more money."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/19265181/new-perspective-bangladesh-bcb-president
 
PCB made a big, big mistake by deciding against playing Bangladesh. Anyone can see it was all because of ego. It would have definitely been a good money maker.

An ODI series will be a big money spinner for these two teams. I believe PCB is insisting that BD tour Pakistan and not UAE. I think it's not ego but a good move. If a fellow Asian Islamic country doesn't tour Pakistan, why will the western countries tour?
 
An ODI series will be a big money spinner for these two teams. I believe PCB is insisting that BD tour Pakistan and not UAE. I think it's not ego but a good move. If a fellow Asian Islamic country doesn't tour Pakistan, why will the western countries tour?

Requesting and demanding are two different things.
 
Requesting and demanding are two different things.

India and Pakistan have always viewed BD as a pushover considering they were behind BD's test status. BD has surely emerged out of their shadows in the recent past.
 
Is this the same Ehshan Mani who earlier used to attack BCCI at the drop of a hat.

But good to see him talking a lot of sense. Obviously if he bemieved what he's saying then as PCB Head, he would have witbdrawn the legal suit but that would have been end of his stint at PCB.

He is wrong on two counts though. Even a new Govt in 6 months from now in India or a new BCCI Governing body will not see much change in Ind-Pak cricket relations. The damage is now more at board level and will take longer for relations to normalise.
 
PCB made a big, big mistake by deciding against playing Bangladesh. Anyone can see it was all because of ego. It would have definitely been a good money maker.

Not really. It was a matter of principle and public opinion. The BCB had used the PCB for its own motives and shown complete arrogance and disrespect, promising to tour Pakistan in exchange for PCB support for their chairman as the ICC chairman. Making the PCB playing their home series in Bangladesh, refusing to tour Pakistan, Pakistan reciprocates by touring Bangladesh for their home series, the BCB goes back on their word and refuses to tour Pakistan. The PCB supported the BCB application for test match status back then and then supported the BPL by sending its players to the league.

Any self respecting board and nation would be upset and hurt and the PCB expressed that by refusing to be continuously screwed by the BCB again and again. Eventually you have to draw the line somewhere to say this is not on.
 
Lol at BCB being much better than the PCB financially. It certainly does not show on the ground? Didn't the BPL run into payment issues with the international players and had to be put off by a few years?

The PCB inspite of its financial tightness has run the PSL successfully 3 seasons in a row and is now approaching the 4th season and not a single international player has complained about payment issues. The PCB inspite of having to pay exhorbitant amount of money to play all its cricket in the UAE is doing decently in comparison to the Debt ridden Sri Lankan Cricket Board.
 
Not really. It was a matter of principle and public opinion. The BCB had used the PCB for its own motives and shown complete arrogance and disrespect, promising to tour Pakistan in exchange for PCB support for their chairman as the ICC chairman. Making the PCB playing their home series in Bangladesh, refusing to tour Pakistan, Pakistan reciprocates by touring Bangladesh for their home series, the BCB goes back on their word and refuses to tour Pakistan. The PCB supported the BCB application for test match status back then and then supported the BPL by sending its players to the league.

Any self respecting board and nation would be upset and hurt and the PCB expressed that by refusing to be continuously screwed by the BCB again and again. Eventually you have to draw the line somewhere to say this is not on.

Did the BCB at any point give their word that their team would tour Pakistan? I honestly don't know.
 
Bhaijaan always felt some of the people heading top posts in Pakistan cricket have always been hiding their incompetency with big talks. People really need to tell them to shut the hell up for once and focus on some actual real life work. For all the hype i rarely get to hear from BCCI with the exception of that BJP tool Anuraj Thakur and his hold didn't stay too long luckily for the good of Indian cricket.
 
Spot on. This wasn't the tone from Mani in the recent past It either means that Mani plays to the gallery (he is in charge of PCB now) or PCB is in really really bad shape
 
Not really. It was a matter of principle and public opinion. The BCB had used the PCB for its own motives and shown complete arrogance and disrespect, promising to tour Pakistan in exchange for PCB support for their chairman as the ICC chairman. Making the PCB playing their home series in Bangladesh, refusing to tour Pakistan, Pakistan reciprocates by touring Bangladesh for their home series, the BCB goes back on their word and refuses to tour Pakistan. The PCB supported the BCB application for test match status back then and then supported the BPL by sending its players to the league.

Any self respecting board and nation would be upset and hurt and the PCB expressed that by refusing to be continuously screwed by the BCB again and again. Eventually you have to draw the line somewhere to say this is not on.

Good post this.

There is a lot of misconception about PCB and BCB relations as if the former is at fault for it's ego.
 
Good post this.

There is a lot of misconception about PCB and BCB relations as if the former is at fault for it's ego.

There is no ego involved. It is one thing to accept dictation from the BCCI, but minnow boards and countries need to be shown their place, the second largest cricketing board and nation in Asia should not be accepting dictation and arrogance from a minnow cricketing country like Bangladesh.
 
Is this the same Ehshan Mani who earlier used to attack BCCI at the drop of a hat.

But good to see him talking a lot of sense. Obviously if he bemieved what he's saying then as PCB Head, he would have witbdrawn the legal suit but that would have been end of his stint at PCB.

He is wrong on two counts though. Even a new Govt in 6 months from now in India or a new BCCI Governing body will not see much change in Ind-Pak cricket relations. The damage is now more at board level and will take longer for relations to normalise.

Yes, Same Ehsan Mani who said that Legal Action by PCB will only back fire the Day, Najam Sethi filed the Legal suit against BCCI. Ehsan Mani was against this from day one.
 
Lol at BCB being much better than the PCB financially. It certainly does not show on the ground? Didn't the BPL run into payment issues with the international players and had to be put off by a few years?

The PCB inspite of its financial tightness has run the PSL successfully 3 seasons in a row and is now approaching the 4th season and not a single international player has complained about payment issues. The PCB inspite of having to pay exhorbitant amount of money to play all its cricket in the UAE is doing decently in comparison to the Debt ridden Sri Lankan Cricket Board.

Even IPL had payment issues at some point. The league salaries are not paid by the board but the franchises. There was a franchise disbanded in PSL recently because of financial issues. Does that mean PCB is bankrupt too? No. BCB has been making profits for the past few years. PCB has been losing money and hence the lawsuit.
 
There is no ego involved. It is one thing to accept dictation from the BCCI, but minnow boards and countries need to be shown their place, the second largest cricketing board and nation in Asia should not be accepting dictation and arrogance from a minnow cricketing country like Bangladesh.

Absolutely - I meant to say "it's so called ego" but that happens when I'm typing so fast at work lol.

BCB, their fans and their chairman/president Nazmul epitomise the intolerance that comes out of Bangladesh cricket.
 
Keep the ego aside. It's a very smart move. There is a talk of change in the GOI in next elections. Pak needs the millions of dollars from India series for it's cricket development. The law suit was a failed step to begin with.

Why is the PCB still dependent on the BCCI $$$ for its cricket development? Why is it not dependent on the Pakistan fans?

Looks like the PCB has done nothing to become self sufficient and generate its own revenues.
 
Lol at BCB being much better than the PCB financially. It certainly does not show on the ground? Didn't the BPL run into payment issues with the international players and had to be put off by a few years?

The PCB inspite of its financial tightness has run the PSL successfully 3 seasons in a row and is now approaching the 4th season and not a single international player has complained about payment issues. The PCB inspite of having to pay exhorbitant amount of money to play all its cricket in the UAE is doing decently in comparison to the Debt ridden Sri Lankan Cricket Board.

You are all over the place with this. Not sure why you are referring to SL board when comparing BD & Pakistan cricket boards.
 
Why is the PCB still dependent on the BCCI $$$ for its cricket development? Why is it not dependent on the Pakistan fans?

Looks like the PCB has done nothing to become self sufficient and generate its own revenues.

The PCB has developed the PSL. It is very easy to say the PCB has don't nothing to develop Pakistan Cricket and is dependent on the BCCI. I would like to see how all the other cricketing countries of the world fare if they do not get to play against India for a good 10-15 years and what their finances would look like.

The fact the PCB is holding its own in the absence of zero home series against India, zero international cricket in Pakistan for the last 10 plus years and has now developed the PSL is nothing short of remarkable.
 
Even IPL had payment issues at some point. The league salaries are not paid by the board but the franchises. There was a franchise disbanded in PSL recently because of financial issues. Does that mean PCB is bankrupt too? No. BCB has been making profits for the past few years. PCB has been losing money and hence the lawsuit.

The PCB disbanded the franchise immediately, the BCB took no action against the franchises and had to hold of on holding the BPL for a few years. If there was international cricket played in Pakistan and if Pakistan had successfully held a few home series with India, there would be no comparison between the financial situation of the PCB and BCB, the BCB would be a distant third and they would have no choice but to show more respect to the PCB and Pakistani Cricketers in general.
 
Why is the PCB still dependent on the BCCI $$$ for its cricket development? Why is it not dependent on the Pakistan fans?

Looks like the PCB has done nothing to become self sufficient and generate its own revenues.

Television rights have a major chunck tied up to Ind vs Pak series (60 out of 150 mil). IIRC the rigts expire in an year or two and PCB can negotiate a better deal. If fans watch every game that Pak plays with the same fervor as they do for indopak games, then there will be self sufficiency. So, yes, the PCB is dependent on fans. Also, it depends on purchasing power, economy and other issues that are not in PCB's control. PSL is a revenue generator and they have already done that.
 
The PCB disbanded the franchise immediately, the BCB took no action against the franchises and had to hold of on holding the BPL for a few years. If there was international cricket played in Pakistan and if Pakistan had successfully held a few home series with India, there would be no comparison between the financial situation of the PCB and BCB, the BCB would be a distant third and they would have no choice but to show more respect to the PCB and Pakistani Cricketers in general.

Ofcourse. If cricket is played in Pakistan and if India visited Pakistan regularly, there is no comparison with BCB. But that is not the reality and my comments were made based on the current situation.
 
You are all over the place with this. Not sure why you are referring to SL board when comparing BD & Pakistan cricket boards.

Giving an example. It is remarkable that the PCB is financially afloat in the absence of hosting India, in the absence of the absence of international cricket in Pakistan for the last 10 plus years, having to pay exhorbitant fees to host teams in India whereas a country like Sri Lanka which constantly hosts India in Sri Lanka, which has hosted the 2011 WC on its territory has ended up in an even poorer situation than the PCB and cannot even successfully hold its T-20 league.

People take a **** on the PCB unnecessarily at times, they have actually managed Pakistan Cricket and the PCB well in light of all these problems and challenges. Another cricket board would not have survived in these circumstances.
 
The PCB has developed the PSL. It is very easy to say the PCB has don't nothing to develop Pakistan Cricket and is dependent on the BCCI. I would like to see how all the other cricketing countries of the world fare if they do not get to play against India for a good 10-15 years and what their finances would look like.

The fact the PCB is holding its own in the absence of zero home series against India, zero international cricket in Pakistan for the last 10 plus years and has now developed the PSL is nothing short of remarkable.

So, you are of the opinion that the BCCI is the cash cow of the entire cricketing world. And pretty much all boards are leaching off the BCCI.

The PSL is a very good revenue generating product for the PCB. Has excellent growth potential. In fact, I would say that in that its likely that in the not too distant future, the PSL will be PCB's premier product. Surpassing even the national team.
 
Ofcourse. If cricket is played in Pakistan and if India visited Pakistan regularly, there is no comparison with BCB. But that is not the reality and my comments were made based on the current situation.

I am also talking about the current situation. Cricket Australia backed out of a bilateral tour by Bangladesh of Australia because Bangladesh were deemed unprofitable and too costly to host, Cricket Australia has never done that with the PCB and Pakistan Cricket team no matter how poorly we have played for a long time in Australia.

This so called talk of Bangladesh Cricket being financially superior to the PCB is all talk and not based on ground realities.
 
So, you are of the opinion that the BCCI is the cash cow of the entire cricketing world. And pretty much all boards are leaching off the BCCI.

The PSL is a very good revenue generating product for the PCB. Has excellent growth potential. In fact, I would say that in that its likely that in the not too distant future, the PSL will be PCB's premier product. Surpassing even the national team.

Ofcourse, the entire world feeds of the BCCI. Only England and Australia have a large enough domestic market to comfortably sustain themselves. Heck Pakistan even today given the ICC revenue sharing model is no 4 when it comes to Cricketing Market around the world followed by India, Australia and England.
 
I am also talking about the current situation. Cricket Australia backed out of a bilateral tour by Bangladesh of Australia because Bangladesh were deemed unprofitable and too costly to host, Cricket Australia has never done that with the PCB and Pakistan Cricket team no matter how poorly we have played for a long time in Australia.

This so called talk of Bangladesh Cricket being financially superior to the PCB is all talk and not based on ground realities.

Different things. Aussies not inviting BD is based on the interest of the series in AUS. BCB makes money based on their home series and their sponsors. There is a huge interest in BD and their country is also growing economically at a very brisk pace. They have been making profits for the past few years.
 
Different things. Aussies not inviting BD is based on the interest of the series in AUS. BCB makes money based on their home series and their sponsors. There is a huge interest in BD and their country is also growing economically at a very brisk pace. They have been making profits for the past few years.

I am not denying all this. But to saw the BCB is a larger cricketing market is not correct and is certainly not reflected in the ICC revenue sharing model.
 
There is no ego involved. It is one thing to accept dictation from the BCCI, but minnow boards and countries need to be shown their place, the second largest cricketing board and nation in Asia should not be accepting dictation and arrogance from a minnow cricketing country like Bangladesh.

There's the ego right there. Pakistan is in no position flex at the moment, better stay humble to avoid getting humbled. BCCI is humbling PCB now, and BCB will follow suit in 10 years.
 
'We didn't have all ends covered' - PCB chief admits after BCCI wins litigation

'We Didn't Have All Ends Covered' - PCB Chief Admits After BCCI Wins Litigation

PTI | Updated: November 22, 2018, 11:31 AM IST

Karachi: Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ehsan Mani admitted that they didn't have all ends covered while claiming Rs 447 crore compensation from the BCCI, which is the reason why they lost the arbitration case heard by ICC's Dispute Resolution Committee.

The PCB had claimed a hefty compensation from BCCI alleging that they didn't honour an alleged Memorandum of Understanding where six bilateral series' between 2015-2023 were agreed.

The BCCI always maintained that the one page letter signed by erstwhile secretary Sanjay Patel was only a letter of intent and they could possibly have never played without government permission due to prevailing tension between the neighbouring countries.

"It is disappointing. The fact is that before filing the case the PCB had consulted the queens counsel lawyers in England and were advised that the claim for compensation was strong and on this basis the PCB went into arbitration and litigation," Mani said.

The former ICC President, however, made the point that there is always a risk involved in litigation.

"When I took over, the proceedings of the case were nearly complete and if we had withdrawn, it would have shown us as weak. But whatever the situation is right now, we have to face it and move on," he said.

Mani replaced Najam Sethi who had spearheaded the move to file the litigation against the BCCI last year based on an alleged MoU.

Mani said personally he believed that ICC member nations should never go into litigation and arbitration and talks were the best options.

"The ICC Disputes Resolution Committee didn't accept the MOU as a legally binding agreement although they say morally India should have played against us. Perhaps the documentation on basis of which we decided to claim compensation was not as conclusive as we felt it was."

Asked about the BCCI official statement that India would now seek costs from Pakistan for the litigation, Mani said since they had won the case it was their right.

"If we had won the case we would have done the same. But we will also be filing for having a look at the costs involved in the case and how it should be shared."

Sethi had got the PCB's Governing Board to approve an amount of one million pounds to cover costs of the litigation, which involved hiring top queens counsel in the UK.

"Nearly 80 million rupees have been spent on the case," a PCB source said.

The stance taken by the BCCI in the Dispute Resolution Committee hearings was that the MOU was signed in return for Pakistan supporting the Big Three governance system and this didn't happen, so there was no question of playing the series.

Mani, however, made it clear that Pakistan would like to maintain its relations with the Indian board on basis of equality and would not beg for resumption of bilateral ties suspended since Mumbai terror attacks in 2008.

Link: https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...dmits-after-bcci-wins-litigation-1946673.html
 
The stance taken by the BCCI in the Dispute Resolution Committee hearings was that the MOU was signed in return for Pakistan supporting the Big Three governance system and this didn't happen, so there was no question of playing the series.

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Can someone explain this? What didn’t happen? We did support big 3 system right?
 
There's the ego right there. Pakistan is in no position flex at the moment, better stay humble to avoid getting humbled. BCCI is humbling PCB now, and BCB will follow suit in 10 years.

To be honest, BCCI coming on top was not really unexpected. It was the classic case of David vs Golaith but the PCB can hold their heads high and atleast claim that they tried their best to fight out of principle and didn't sit on their backsides and do nothing.

On the other hand, the law of averages will catch up with the BCB and Bangladesh Cricket and they will return to being minnows in no time. There is no reason for the PCB to be taking dictation from them and to accept being screwed over by minnows again and again.
 
Ofcourse, the entire world feeds of the BCCI. Only England and Australia have a large enough domestic market to comfortably sustain themselves. Heck Pakistan even today given the ICC revenue sharing model is no 4 when it comes to Cricketing Market around the world followed by India, Australia and England.

England and Australia are only 2nd/3rd because of history and economics. Pakistan and Bangladesh will easily pass them once their economic issues get sorted out and both are on a growth trajectory. Of course Bangladesh has the benefit of Indian friendship and the like but Pakistan has opportunities too with China and Africa.
 
England and Australia are only 2nd/3rd because of history and economics. Pakistan and Bangladesh will easily pass them once their economic issues get sorted out and both are on a growth trajectory. Of course Bangladesh has the benefit of Indian friendship and the like but Pakistan has opportunities too with China and Africa.

China does not play cricket. We have already seen what letting the Chinese in has done to our economy.
 
To be honest, BCCI coming on top was not really unexpected. It was the classic case of David vs Golaith but the PCB can hold their heads high and atleast claim that they tried their best to fight out of principle and didn't sit on their backsides and do nothing.

On the other hand, the law of averages will catch up with the BCB and Bangladesh Cricket and they will return to being minnows in no time. There is no reason for the PCB to be taking dictation from them and to accept being screwed over by minnows again and again.

They haven't become minnows yet though. BCB is still very well off financially (not talking about individual franchises in BPL). It's just that the cricket team is awful and has no talent. Even then, PCB should jave respected BCB. They're much stronger than SLC and CWI. At the end of the day, money matters most.
 
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