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Cricket is symbol of 'hope for treasure' for Afghan people: India

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Cricket is a symbol of "hope for treasure" in Afghanistan that is now battered by terrorism springing from safe havens in Pakistan, according to India's UN Permanent Representative Syed Akbaruddin.

The immortal lines of the Sufi mystic poet Rumi, "Where there is ruin, there is also hope for treasure", is the source of resilience for the Afghan people, Akbaruddin told the Security Council on Tuesday during a debate on Afghanistan.

He cited the emergence of the Afghan team as "the new sensation in the cricketing arena" as one of the symbols of this hope.

"Leaving behind the memories when sports was explicitly banned by the Taliban in Afghanistan," the nation's team has been "achieving extraordinary success,a he said.

Having qualified for the next Cricket World Cup, Afghanistan played its first game as a Test cricket playing nation in June at the Chinnaswamy Stadium in Bengaluru when it took on India, he said.

"While having made cricket grounds in India their home base, Afghan cricketers have flourished," he said, adding, "However, we look forward to the day when we too can play cricket with them on their soil."

The resilience of the Afghan people was being tried by the terrorist onslaught like the spring offensive from the Taliban that has taken many lives, he said.

"Such offensives are planned and launched from safe havens in the neighborhood of Afghanistan," Akbaruddin said pointing fingers at Pakistan.

"Notwithstanding the efforts made by the international community there are still those who provide sanctuaries to support the dark agendas of terrorist organisations like the Taliban, Haqqani Network, IS, Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Toiba and Jaish-e-Mohammad," he said.

He warned that the terrorism problem of Afghanistan was a global challenge with a reminder that "the same safe havens that sheltered (the late Taliban leader) Mullah Omar also sheltered Osama bin Laden," the Al Qaeda leader who launched the 9/11 assaults on the US in 2001 and other attacks around the world.

Bin Laden was killed by US Navy Seals in Abbottobad and Omar died in Karachi even as the world was looking for them.

"We do not need a catastrophe again to remind us that Afghanistan requires strong and steady international support in elimination of what is a threat to global peace and security," he added.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...eople-india/articleshow/64762199.cms?from=mdr
 
Does anyone else giggle every time an Indian even mentions Afghanistan? I do
 
Does anyone else giggle every time an Indian even mentions Afghanistan? I do

The only issue I have with internet threads is that "India" is too vague. For example, this statement should be attributed to "India's UN Permanent Representative Syed Akbaruddin", not top-down-left-right "India".
 
Why ? Indian afghanistan relations have been excellent.

Only because Pakistan provides a buffer zone and now takes the all the hostility which traditionally Afghans reserved for India. Does Pakistan get any thanks for it? Not a chance, but we will continue to provide the service regardless of lack of appreciation.
 
Only because Pakistan provides a buffer zone and now takes the all the hostility which traditionally Afghans reserved for India. Does Pakistan get any thanks for it? Not a chance, but we will continue to provide the service regardless of lack of appreciation.

Start training their civil servants instead of training terrorists and you will have their appreciation which you desire.
 
Start training their civil servants instead of training terrorists and you will have their appreciation which you desire.

Maybe house millions in your county to appreciate what it means to be humane.
 
Start training their civil servants instead of training terrorists and you will have their appreciation which you desire.

Makes you wonder why the USA has been fighting a war in Afghanistan for the last 17 years when all they had to do was train their civil servants.
 
Does anyone else giggle every time an Indian even mentions Afghanistan? I do

i don't know why it surprise you but Gandhari, who has been instrumental in portraying the imapct of woman in the ancient indian society was from.... Afghanistan. Since a part of our roots go back to afghanistan, certainly it will be mention every now and then.
 
The Indian will obviously point the fingers at Pakistan, but this idyllic Afghanistan/India relation is temporary, when Pak will get a genuine leader who'll ignite the fire of Islamic sentiments into Afghans it'll become clearer, otherwise Afghans have no real relationship to Hindu-majority India, apart from predatory raids for centuries and recent domination of Bollywood over the indigenous population.
 
i don't know why it surprise you but Gandhari, who has been instrumental in portraying the imapct of woman in the ancient indian society was from.... Afghanistan. Since a part of our roots go back to afghanistan, certainly it will be mention every now and then.

I can see the resemblance.
 
Don't think Americans are bemoaning the lack of appreciation from Afghans.

You didn't answer the point, which is why have the Americans been fighting a war for 17 years in Afghanistan if the answer was as simple as training their civil servants? Which was your advice for Pakistan after all.
 
You didn't answer the point, which is why have the Americans been fighting a war for 17 years in Afghanistan if the answer was as simple as training their civil servants? Which was your advice for Pakistan after all.

If this simple thing isn't clear to you, there is no point debating with you.
 
I can see the resemblance.

You don't posses the required knowledge about India to make the above conclusion. The Rolex watch thread, where you were called out even by Pakistani ppers is prime example of how lack of grasp in a subject leads to misleading conclusion.
 
Afghan cricket is the clear winner of the cordial relationship between India and Afghanistan. Establishing their cricket in India will pay huge dividends in the future. Access to world class coaching facilities, a magnificent cricket culture and the opportunity of earning millions by playing in the best league in the game. Moreover, they will get to play a Test against all touring teams in India.

Shifting their cricket base from Pakistan to India is the best thing Afghanistan has done in many years.
 
Afghan cricket is the clear winner of the cordial relationship between India and Afghanistan. Establishing their cricket in India will pay huge dividends in the future. Access to world class coaching facilities, a magnificent cricket culture and the opportunity of earning millions by playing in the best league in the game. Moreover, they will get to play a Test against all touring teams in India.

Shifting their cricket base from Pakistan to India is the best thing Afghanistan has done in many years.

Agreed. The bit in bold is particularly significant.

It is a shame we did not manage our relationship with Afghanistan better (not that the current head of ACB, Atif Mashal is blameless for his less than diplomatic handling of the ACB's relationship with the PCB) as it would have been great to see them play Test cricket in cities like Peshawar, Quetta and Karachi.
 
There is no point in debating because you don't address the points made and instead start going off in a different direction, so I agree it is pointless.

Unless you believe Americans are involved in terrorist activities in Afghanistan, your post doesn't make sense.
 
Why ? Indian afghanistan relations have been excellent.
Lol you don't know how racist afghans are against Indians lol...

There's some famous Afgani saying which derides Indians for being daal-khors and whatnot
 
Lol you don't know how racist afghans are against Indians lol...

There's some famous Afgani saying which derides Indians for being daal-khors and whatnot

That is why I said for Indians, the creation of Pakistan was actually a blessing as it created a buffer zone where Afghan's traditional hostility for daal khors could be displaced towards Pakistan whereas previously of course the wars between Afghans and Hindustan go back centuries long before Pakistan was even a concept.
 
i don't know why it surprise you but Gandhari, who has been instrumental in portraying the imapct of woman in the ancient indian society was from.... Afghanistan. Since a part of our roots go back to afghanistan, certainly it will be mention every now and then.

Afghanistan was Hindu/Buddhist much like India for centuries before Islam came and took over.

Until Islam arrived in Afghanistan, no Afghan ever raided India for loot or dominance.

Past is past and you have to move on and improve the relations. Its 2018 and you cannot harp on what happened 1400 years ago or 500 years ago.

Its in the benefit of both India and Afghanistan to have friendly cordial relations. Talent is always welcomed in India :sachin
 
Afghanistan was Hindu/Buddhist much like India for centuries before Islam came and took over.

Until Islam arrived in Afghanistan, no Afghan ever raided India for loot or dominance.

Past is past and you have to move on and improve the relations. Its 2018 and you cannot harp on what happened 1400 years ago or 500 years ago.

Its in the benefit of both India and Afghanistan to have friendly cordial relations. Talent is always welcomed in India :sachin

"Afghanistan" wasn't "Hindu/Buddhist". A "part" of modern day Afghanistan had Buddhist influences, the Gandharan civilization, with its epicenter in modern day Pak as well. That doesn't make "Afghanistan" a "Hindu/Buddhist" nation, esp. as I struggle to see when the populations there have ever been Hindus (I'm not talking of Punjabi-Khatri migrants in Kabul or so). We're not even sure how Buddhists they actually were (it's not because a dominant power has been of a religion that the population followed suit, look at Islam dominating many parts of India for nearly a millennia, yet the majority remains Hindu). In all probability the dominant faith was Zoroastrianism (as per legend Zoroaster reached "illumination" in Balkh, the oldest continuously inhabited city of modern day Afghanistan).

You just have to take random Afghans and Indians to see that they have nothing in common with each other whatsoever. Germans and English belong to a core population which diverged ways before the supposed "Islamic take over" in Afghanistan, yet similarities are still there (in genetics, languages, etc) as opposed to the Afghanistan-India case.
 
Afghanistan was Hindu/Buddhist much like India for centuries before Islam came and took over.

Until Islam arrived in Afghanistan, no Afghan ever raided India for loot or dominance.

Past is past and you have to move on and improve the relations. Its 2018 and you cannot harp on what happened 1400 years ago or 500 years ago.

Its in the benefit of both India and Afghanistan to have friendly cordial relations. Talent is always welcomed in India :sachin

Personally would love to see India launch a drive to re-establish Hindu and Buddhist temples in Afghanistan, along with nationwide screenings of Veer di Wedding to cement friendship and cultural exchange between the two countries.
 
Personally would love to see India launch a drive to re-establish Hindu and Buddhist temples in Afghanistan, along with nationwide screenings of Veer di Wedding to cement friendship and cultural exchange between the two countries.

I swear, every time you mention that movie to cement the "relationship", I get warm and fuzzy on the inside.
 
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