Criteria for player selection in Pakistan Cricket across all formats of the game

[Ali Active]

Step 1 : Make sure You are registered in PSL(Pakistan super league)

Step 2 : Play some flashy knocks
of 40 50
or take 3 wickets

That will get u talking among people and social media

Step 3 : After u have made some News in social media

Try to Make a statement about Babar azam that i try to learn from him he is great player

Try to be his Freind

Congratulations U are selected in Pct in All three formats.

This domestic list A all this and that is just drama. Only PSL matters and your freindship with babar

 

[Major]

Salman ALi Agha
Saud Shakeel
Iftikhar Ahmad
Usama Mir

These are 4 players i am telling you that got selected in the team based on their overall domestic performance and not just PSL performance.

 

[Ali Active]

Salman ALi Agha
Saud Shakeel
Iftikhar Ahmad
Usama Mir

These are 4 players i am telling you that got selected in the team based on their overall domestic performance and not just PSL performance.

Only Saud Shakeel
Ifti and salman got recognition through PSL
And other thing i forgot to mention
if babar finds u good enough u are in.
so u must impress babar to be in team

 

[Major]

Only Saud Shakeel
Ifti and salman got recognition through PSL
And other thing i forgot to mention
if babar finds u good enough u are in.
so u must impress babar to be in team

nope.

Ifti has been playing all domestic cricket, he has been performing in all domestic formats for Peshawar Region. He even captained his region in the final, performed and got selected.

Salman also has been playing domestic cricket.

Hassan Ali aswell was doing decently well for his first class team before he got into the test side. He got into the odi side due to the long list of injured bowlers and was the 4th or 5th option.

Babar messed up the spinners selection, that i agree with. But the batting did not fail us in this world cup. The captaincy and bowling is what failed us.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Only Saud Shakeel
Ifti and salman got recognition through PSL
And other thing i forgot to mention
if babar finds u good enough u are in.
so u must impress babar to be in team

Iftikhar's debut was in 2015, PSL hadn't started then.

 

[Rana]

Register with Saya Corps

That should help

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

I don't see anything wrong with the players they just lack discipline and that's due to no check and balance on players.
We need sincere coaches and honest management.

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

I don't see anything wrong with the players they just lack discipline and that's due to no check and balance on players.
We need sincere coaches and honest management.

Just imagine mickey giving motivational speech in english to our punjabis and pathans players. Lol

 

[Major]

Register with Saya Corps

That should help

than why did Abrar not play, he is registered with Saya

 

[Rana]

than why did Abrar not play, he is registered with Saya

Abrar got to travel didn’t he?

Exposure. Stayed in the news. Sponsors.

Kerching Kerching $$

 

[Major]

Abrar got to travel didn’t he?

Exposure. Stayed in the news. Sponsors.

Kerching Kerching $$

let me ask you again, why did Abrar not get to play?

Misbah already said that Babar was not ready to select Abrar and selected Shadab. Shadab is not represented by Saya

 

[Rana]

let me ask you again, why did Abrar not get to play?

Misbah already said that Babar was not ready to select Abrar and selected Shadab. Shadab is not represented by Saya

Let me remind you AGAIN.

Abrar being in traveling reserves regardless of whether he plays or not benefits his agency.

Just like Khushdil Shah and Haider Ali traveling the Southern Hemisphere last year with the Pakistan team benefits his agency. As long as you are in the picture, you are MONEY. Now don’t try to patronise me.

 

[Ali Active]

Iftikhar's debut was in 2015, PSL hadn't started then.

There will be some exceptions but majority of selections are based on this template

 

[Ali Active]

than why did Abrar not play, he is registered with Saya

Abrar got money
and babar was scared to play him because that will make him look like a. fool

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Saud, Iftikhar, Fahim, Agha, Rizwan, Babar, Abrar, Noman, Abid, Mir Hamza, Haris Sohail, Abbas they were all initially selected for their domestic performances. Even Fakhar was averaging around 50 in LA before getting picked up in PSL.

The fast tracking of pacers and spinners through PSL is something I am firmly against when it comes to ODIs and Tests. The likes of Hasnain, Musa, Ihsanullah, Wasim, Haris etc were selected for international cricket too soon especially those who got to play tests and we can see the results of them not being upto par.

But too much venom is being spat on Babar lately as if we were in finalists of 2015 and 2019 editions as well.

Abrar got into the test team by improving massively in FC cricket.
Fahim was picked for CT17 squad by being the highest wicket taker in the preceding LA tournament and got the PSL deal a year later.

If the likes of Amir, Imad and Azam get picked up for the next series (only Azam has been playing LA cricket), the same people will call it masterstrokes and workload management.

There definitely is nepotism and bias, but it's not something that's only started after 2019. It's been going on since day 1 of Pak Cricket.

 

[RyanRyan10]

There will be some exceptions but majority of selections are based on this template

You should give the right examples. Just having a PSL contact doesn't mean a player got picked because of the league.

 

[Saj]

let me ask you again, why did Abrar not get to play?

Misbah already said that Babar was not ready to select Abrar and selected Shadab. Shadab is not represented by Saya

Abrar is a travelling reserve.

He will be getting paid and getting financial benefits.

Everyone knows that.

 

[Major]

Abrar is a travelling reserve.

He will be getting paid and getting financial benefits.

Everyone knows that.

Is he a member of the squad? No he is not

The fairytale about Saya Corporation forcing their own players is getting old now.

If that was true, than when Misbah asked Babar to add Abrar in the squad, he would had done so instead of placing in the reserves.

Shadab is not represented by Saya, nor is Imam (Babar's best friend), or Naseem or Harris Rauf. And these were the core players of Babar.

 

[Saj]

Is he a member of the squad? No he is not

The fairytale about Saya Corporation forcing their own players is getting old now.

If that was true, than when Misbah asked Babar to add Abrar in the squad, he would had done so instead of placing in the reserves.

Shadab is not represented by Saya, nor is Imam (Babar's best friend), or Naseem or Harris Rauf. And these were the core players of Babar.

Is he geting paid? Yes he is

Do you really think they would have dared to have an entire squad from the same agency.

Given some of your posts, I wouldn't use the word fairytale if I were you.

 

[Major]

Is he geting paid? Yes he is

Do you really think they would have dared to have an entire squad from the same agency.

Given some of your posts, I wouldn't use the word fairytale if I were you.

There is a difference between getting paid and getting recognition for playing. Abrar is not a squad memeber. Saya represents Saim Ayub, and the technical committee wanted Saim in the team but not Babar.

If the whole Saya conspiracy existed, why is Imam not being represented by them? Imam's friend is the captain who is being represented by Saya, his 2 family members are represent by Saya, than shouldnt the easy target be Imam?

Players choose their agents on who can bring them better deals and be more open about the dealings.

Why should i be forced to accept that this whole story of Saya is not a fairytale, when infact it is.

 

[Rana]

Abrar is a travelling reserve.

He will be getting paid and getting financial benefits.

Everyone knows that.

But I don’t think Major understands that

 

[Rana]

If the whole Saya conspiracy existed, why is Imam not being represented by them? Imam's friend is the captain who is being represented by Saya, his 2 family members are represent by Saya, than shouldnt the easy target be Imam?

Imam is represented by his family registered agency if I am correct. Confirm this

 

[saqib.rai]

Step 1 : Make sure You are registered in PSL(Pakistan super league)

Step 2 : Play some flashy knocks
of 40 50
or take 3 wickets

That will get u talking among people and social media

Step 3 : After u have made some News in social media

Try to Make a statement about Babar azam that i try to learn from him he is great player

Try to be his Freind

Congratulations U are selected in Pct in All three formats.

This domestic list A all this and that is just drama. Only PSL matters and your freindship with babar

What is this post?

A character assassination on Babar?

What good is this doing to anyone?

As a poster mentioned,
Abdullah, Salman Agha, Saud, Iftikhar, Wasim jnr either have pretty ordinary PSL numbers or have not played PSL at all

Why isn't Azam Khan, Asif Ali, Khushdil in the squad? They fulfill the requirements that you have mentioned?

Why can't we just accept that these 15 were the best available players. And that NO ONE was hard done by not being selected

 

[Saj]

There is a difference between getting paid and getting recognition for playing. Abrar is not a squad memeber. Saya represents Saim Ayub, and the technical committee wanted Saim in the team but not Babar.

If the whole Saya conspiracy existed, why is Imam not being represented by them? Imam's friend is the captain who is being represented by Saya, his 2 family members are represent by Saya, than shouldnt the easy target be Imam?

Players choose their agents on who can bring them better deals and be more open about the dealings.

Why should i be forced to accept that this whole story of Saya is not a fairytale, when infact it is.

I don't think you have a clue regarding agents and players and how all this works.

Frankly it's a waste of time even trying to explain how it all works to you.

You are very naive regarding this.

 

[Farabi]

Salman ALi Agha
Saud Shakeel
Iftikhar Ahmad
Usama Mir

These are 4 players i am telling you that got selected in the team based on their overall domestic performance and not just PSL performance.

What is this post?

A character assassination on Babar?

What good is this doing to anyone?

As a poster mentioned,
Abdullah, Salman Agha, Saud, Iftikhar, Wasim jnr either have pretty ordinary PSL numbers or have not played PSL at all

Why isn't Azam Khan, Asif Ali, Khushdil in the squad? They fulfill the requirements that you have mentioned?

Why can't we just accept that these 15 were the best available players. And that NO ONE was hard done by not being selected

As far as batting is concerned, you guys are right that all the players are domestic performers but may have got that extra recognition and push with PSL. These were more or less the best batters available based on past records.

However, the selection for bowling in ODIs seems to be influenced by PSL, because of the myth "Bowling mai, you dont need experience". One can argue why Nauman Ali, Zafar Gohar, Kashif Bhatti, who have a huge body of work as spinners cannot get a break in the ODI side? We saw how test class spinners did so well in the world cup in India.
Similarly, why didn't Abrar get any chances sooner when he did well vs Eng in the test series.
As for pacers, why didn't Pakistan give Sameen Gul and Mir Hamza chances to inject some experience.

 

[Farabi]

There is a difference between getting paid and getting recognition for playing. Abrar is not a squad memeber. Saya represents Saim Ayub, and the technical committee wanted Saim in the team but not Babar.

If the whole Saya conspiracy existed, why is Imam not being represented by them? Imam's friend is the captain who is being represented by Saya, his 2 family members are represent by Saya, than shouldnt the easy target be Imam?

Players choose their agents on who can bring them better deals and be more open about the dealings.

Why should i be forced to accept that this whole story of Saya is not a fairytale, when infact it is.

These are all great points. Reducing incompetence down to conspiracy theories is an easy cop out in Pakistan. A lot of Saya represented players did not get the preferene, and many of the buddies are not in Saya anyways.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

As far as batting is concerned, you guys are right that all the players are domestic performers but may have got that extra recognition and push with PSL. These were more or less the best batters available based on past records.

However, the selection for bowling in ODIs seems to be influenced by PSL, because of the myth "Bowling mai, you dont need experience". One can argue why Nauman Ali, Zafar Gohar, Kashif Bhatti, who have a huge body of work as spinners cannot get a break in the ODI side? We saw how test class spinners did so well in the world cup in India.
Similarly, why didn't Abrar get any chances sooner when he did well vs Eng in the test series.
As for pacers, why didn't Pakistan give Sameen Gul and Mir Hamza chances to inject some experience.

It's said Zafar Gohar isn't interested in playing for Pakistan since last year and half. Even though the guy should be our prime spinner in tests. If it's true, it's damning as to why he doesn't want to play for Pak.

 

[saqib.rai]

As far as batting is concerned, you guys are right that all the players are domestic performers but may have got that extra recognition and push with PSL. These were more or less the best batters available based on past records.

However, the selection for bowling in ODIs seems to be influenced by PSL, because of the myth "Bowling mai, you dont need experience". One can argue why Nauman Ali, Zafar Gohar, Kashif Bhatti, who have a huge body of work as spinners cannot get a break in the ODI side? We saw how test class spinners did so well in the world cup in India.
Similarly, why didn't Abrar get any chances sooner when he did well vs Eng in the test series.
As for pacers, why didn't Pakistan give Sameen Gul and Mir Hamza chances to inject some experience.

True.
Could have been tried. Maybe they would have succeeded or maybe they would have failed

However, once you were selecting the squad for the Asia Cup and World Cup, selecting these 15 made sense

 

[Farabi]

True.
Could have been tried. Maybe they would have succeeded or maybe they would have failed

However, once you were selecting the squad for the Asia Cup and World Cup, selecting these 15 made sense

It depends on who you ask right.
Nawaz and Shadab’s bowling performance in ODIs has been below average for couple of years now. Asia cup was continuation of that poor form, not an aberration.

If my understanding is right, a technical committee was formed under Misbah and Hafeez, who also recommended that Pakistan take Abrar and Imad. Many people on this forum including the media were also
Asking for these changes, but they didn’t happen.

So, no, it’s not true that these were the best 15 available prior to the World Cup. Shadab and Nawaz did not deserve a spot in this team, nor did Usama Mir.

As for planning and prep leading into the Asia cup, there is a gap in thinking. We haven’t tried FC/Test spinners in our ODI lineups for ages. There has been a preference for spinners who can bat a bit.
If this doesn’t change, more humiliations await us in these conditions

 

[Farabi]

And before you quickly jump on Imad being a mediocre bowler

I agree both Imad and Nawaz are mediocre bowlers. The difference is batting. Imad is a solid no6/no7. The guy has 40+ average and 100+ SR. He is easily the best batting allrounders in Pakistan who offers decent and tidy 5 overs or so with the ball. Nawaz is nothing more than glorified tailender to be honest.

 

[Ahmed216]

True. Pak ODI and Test cricket has been in decline since advent of PSL that's why I hate that tournament

 

[Major]

I don't think you have a clue regarding agents and players and how all this works.

Frankly it's a waste of time even trying to explain how it all works to you.

You are very naive regarding this.

So if i dont believe in a conspiracy narrative than i am naive. That is wonderful logic

 

[Saj]

So if i dont believe in a conspiracy narrative than i am naive. That is wonderful logic

You have absolutely no clue about how Pakistani players work with agents, the number of agents they have, how they work with them, so I would suggest to you to stop making a fool of yourself regarding this.

 

[searacer932]

Step 1 : Make sure You are registered in PSL(Pakistan super league)

Step 2 : Play some flashy knocks
of 40 50
or take 3 wickets

That will get u talking among people and social media

Step 3 : After u have made some News in social media

Try to Make a statement about Babar azam that i try to learn from him he is great player

Try to be his Freind

Congratulations U are selected in Pct in All three formats.

This domestic list A all this and that is just drama. Only PSL matters and your freindship with babar

In addition to the above sing 'Dil Dil Pakistan'

 

[RidiculousMan]

Salman ALi Agha
Saud Shakeel
Iftikhar Ahmad
Usama Mir

These are 4 players i am telling you that got selected in the team based on their overall domestic performance and not just PSL performance.

Saud was selected in ODIs based on his Test performance though. Tayyab on the other hand the domestic performer was brushed aside.

 

[FearlessRoar]

The only criteria they follow are favoritism and performance in the PSL. They don't care about who is performing well in first-class cricket. Here, I give two examples: Fawad Alam and Mir Hamza.

 

[saqib.rai]

The only criteria they follow are favoritism and performance in the PSL. They don't care about who is performing well in first-class cricket. Here, I give two examples: Fawad Alam and Mir Hamza.

Name ONE cricketer in the current test team who got there because of PSL performance? just ONE

Propaganda spread by media And believed by idiots

As for Fawad Alam, with Azhar, Younis, Misbah, Asad he just couldn't fit. Hard luck to him. Good player couldn't get his share of opportunities because of a stable middle order at the time

And we all saw the mighty Mir Hamza in the test matches against New Zealand where he went wicket-less

So stop portraying our cricket as if even basics are not being followed correctly

 

[VForVendetta]

Step 1 : Make sure You are registered in PSL(Pakistan super league)

Well, Imam never even sniffed close enough to a PSL contract. That didn't stop him to become a freeloader for over five years & getting royal treatment. Sometimes being friends with the clique is the only criteria to get selected. As a bonus if you happen to share blood with some past legends then it just guarantees you lengthier picnic tours. Imam & Usman fit that classification properly.

Step 2 : Play some flashy knocks
of 40 50
or take 3 wickets

That will get u talking among people and social media

Step 3 : After u have made some News in social media

Try to Make a statement about Babar azam that i try to learn from him he is great player

Try to be his Freind

Congratulations U are selected in Pct in All three formats.

This domestic list A all this and that is just drama. Only PSL matters and your freindship with babar

 

[ahmadharis1]

PCB clearly does not care about domestic cricket at all. PSL is the only criteria for selection in all formats


2022 One Day Cup

Top Run Scorers
- Tayyab Tahir
- Haseebullah Khan
- Saim Ayub
- Kamran Ghulam
- Imran Butt

Top Bowlers
- Usama Mir
- Ihsanullah
- Mohammad Junaid
- Kashif Bhatii
- Amad Butt

Only Usama Mir and Ihsanullah was selected for the ODI team, and Ihsanullah got one measly match, and that was on the basis of PSL performance


And last year's 50 over domestic stats of players who "earned" their spots

Agha Salman- 0 matches
Saud Shakeel- 0 matches
Ifthikar Ahmed- 0 matches

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Simple criteria, if you have source so u can borad the bus without any talent.