Current India T20I batting versus Pakistan T20I batting

[B_Positive]

My vote would be to India. Pakistan has better bowling. Bowlers like Amir, Usman Khan, Hasan Ali and Shadab just make that bowling lineup the best at present but Indian batting lineup is also the best in the world at the moment.

 

[Titan24]

Tbh in T20s the difference between both batting lineups is not much but when it comes to ODIs the difference widens but mainly due to the experience of India’s top 3 who have around 400 ODIs between them while Pakistan’s top 3 in which played in CT17 or last series have almost 100 matches between them.

I believe that with Fakhar and Babar in the top 3 our batting after sometime will definitely improve in ODIs as well.

 

[the_outsider]

India plays SL more than any other side so if scoring 180+ consecutively four times was so easy why didn't India's superior batting manage it? Also congratulations for ignoring the fact that 2 of the scores were against NZ in NZ. Just another mindless troll from across the border.

I'm sorry nobody told you that being a good batting side means more than posting 180+ scores four times.

If I start counting the number of times India has scored over 300 in just recent times we will be here all day. If we are talking about T20s then in Australia India scored 190+ twice and then chased down the highest runs ever in Australia (some 200+) in 3 consecutive games. So wouldn't that automatically mean India is miles ahead?

Don't bring any random stat that is designed to "prove" your point and waste my time. Talk about trolls.

 

[the_outsider]

What are you on about man? We have scored heavily against the likes of England and NZL as well. And how on earth is that an Australia B side? It is the regular Australia side which has beaten NZL and Eng.

What are you talking about? The game Pakistan won yesterday in the tri-series wasn't against Australia's B side?

Let me refresh your memory by reposting what you posted above after Pakistan's win last night:

"Smashed the aussie attack today, posting highest total against Australia. I know which one would be my pick alongwith a better bowling attack."

I can't believe how ridiculous this is.

 

[GrandMaster]

It's Fakhar Vs Team India. If you have someone like Talat in top 3 and an allrounder like Nawaz, that says a lot about the Pakistan batting standards.

 

[Syed1]

It's Fakhar Vs Team India. If you have someone like Talat in top 3 and an allrounder like Nawaz, that says a lot about the Pakistan batting standards.

Talat is a pretty good batsman and despite struggling for form he is still managing to score handy runs. Like his 30 today.


Nawaz bats at number 9.


First educate yourself before mouthing off.

 

[GrandMaster]

I am commenting on the basis of what I saw. Talat might be a good batsman but he was nothing less than a club level cricketer in yesterdays match. Same goes for Nawaz, he was looking clueless in the second T20 match against Aus.

Are you saying Nawaz is a specialist bowler and was selected on the basis of his bowling skills alone? You probably need to educate yourself.

Talat is a pretty good batsman and despite struggling for form he is still managing to score handy runs. Like his 30 today.


Nawaz bats at number 9.


First educate yourself before mouthing off.

 

[nandys]

Head to head t20 world cup records speak for themselves.
Put this question to rest

 

[Lefthanded]

No one in Pakistan's team is on the level of Kohli, Dhawan, Rohit etc. They have Dhoni, and we have Sarfraz. Their elder statesman Raina might be past his best and Shoaib Malik might edge him but that's about it.

 

[the_outsider]

No one in Pakistan's team is on the level of Kohli, Dhawan, Rohit etc. They have Dhoni, and we have Sarfraz. Their elder statesman Raina might be past his best and Shoaib Malik might edge him but that's about it.

Are you saying Dhoni and Sarfraz are equally good? Surely you're joking.

Malik might actually edge out Raina. I can agree with that.

 

[the_outsider]

Head to head t20 world cup records speak for themselves.
Put this question to rest

You would think right? At least I can understand that the WC wins have spanned over many years. But the T20 record of 5-0 has happened between 2007-16, not even a full decade.

You would think a stat as heavily one-sided as this would end the discussion.

 

[nandys]

Then i don't know how much they again and again want to get wasted.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I am commenting on the basis of what I saw. Talat might be a good batsman but he was nothing less than a club level cricketer in yesterdays match. Same goes for Nawaz, he was looking clueless in the second T20 match against Aus.

Are you saying Nawaz is a specialist bowler and was selected on the basis of his bowling skills alone? You probably need to educate yourself.

KL Rahul looked like a club cricketer today against England, specially the way he got worked out by Plunkett. Won't even start with the legend that is Hardik Pandya

 

[Slim]

KL Rahul looked like a club cricketer today against England, specially the way he got worked out by Plunkett. Won't even start with the legend that is Hardik Pandya

He got told its not patta flat bread day today. )

 

[Slim]

Dhoni an often hated player saved face for the best batting lineup while rockstars showed their aukat.

 

[nandys]

Given how fragile pakistans batting is.
If they would have batted here, they surely would have been bundled out for under 100.

 

[OmarKhan99]

Given how fragile pakistans batting is.
If they would have batted here, they surely would have been bundled out for under 100.

You do know that is the same ground and conditions in which Pakistan comprehensively beat England by 8 wickets last year and chased 302 against England and won by 4 wickets in 2016?

Pakistan is pretty mercurial, but saying that we would "surely" be bowled out for less than 100 is absolutely atrocious.

 

[nandys]

And given if you don't know the difference between a t20 and and a 50 over match.l, more so that the pitch prepared on the day certainly matters, i can't take you seriously.

Try again.

 

[Minnowbasher]

If it's the "Mickey mouse" format why does it matter? Suddenly the format matters when India does well but when Pakistan becomes number 1 t20 side the format is Mickey mouse. It's a format of the game get over it ppl. India has the better batting side while Pakistan has the better bowling side.

 

[nandys]

Certainly some members didn't notice that these t20 are start of a big series and getting players to get access to playing time before the big series didn't come in their minds.

Afterall some teams love to play t20s against minnows and if the other country finally tries to play some t20s against the top teams then they can't stop their insecurity.

 

[Titan24]

And when was the last time India won 14 out of 16 T20 matches and scored 180+ scores in 4 consecutive matches?

 

[Minnowbasher]

Currently in t20:
Fakhar=Dhawan
Babar=Rohit
Talat<<<<kohli
Malik<Rahul
Sarfraz=dhoni
Asif Ali>Raina
Faheem=pandya
Shadab=kuldeep/chahal
Hasan>bumrah
Amir>kumar
Usman=umesh yadav

Fakhar and babar in t20 are as good as dhawan and rohit if you look at averages so I put them as equal.
Sarfraz atm is about equal to dhoni imo.
Asif Ali is better than raina as he is more expolosive.
Shadab is equal to kuldeep as shadab was as difficult to pick when he started playing but eventually started to get found out. Same will happen to kuldeep.

 

[Slim]

And when was the last time India won 14 out of 16 T20 matches and scored 180+ scores in 4 consecutive matches?

Thankgod, that my fellow Pakistanis are realizing this as well. We tend to underestimate our team and the other side tends to overhype their team all the time.

We are the best t20I team in each and every department hands down.

England comes as second.

 

[Titan24]

Currently in t20:
Fakhar=Dhawan
Babar=Rohit
Talat<<<<kohli
Malik<Rahul
Sarfraz=dhoni
Asif Ali>Raina
Faheem=pandya
Shadab=kuldeep/chahal
Hasan>bumrah
Amir>kumar
Usman=umesh yadav

Fakhar and babar in t20 are as good as dhawan and rohit if you look at averages so I put them as equal.
Sarfraz atm is about equal to dhoni imo.
Asif Ali is better than raina as he is more expolosive.
Shadab is equal to kuldeep as shadab was as difficult to pick when he started playing but eventually started to get found out. Same will happen to kuldeep.

If you look at SR Fakhar is better, but why compare it with indian batting as its not the standard in T20 Pak is the no1 T20 side and have been setting new records in the format.

 

[Slim]

If you look at SR Fakhar is better, but why compare it with indian batting as its not the standard in T20 Pak is the no1 T20 side and have been setting new records in the format.

Agree, our real competition is England and not India.

 

[Titan24]

Thankgod, that my fellow Pakistanis are realizing this as well. We tend to underestimate our team and the other side tends to overhype their team all the time.

We are the best t20I team in each and every department hands down.

England comes as second.

Exactly record speaks for itself. We have been top notch in both batting and bowling, No1 T20 batsman is ours, No2 T20 bowler is ours and we are ranked No1

 

[Joseph Gomes]

If it's the "Mickey mouse" format why does it matter? Suddenly the format matters when India does well but when Pakistan becomes number 1 t20 side the format is Mickey mouse. It's a format of the game get over it ppl. India has the better batting side while Pakistan has the better bowling side.

It doesn't matter. T20Is are useless, only the WC matters. Hoover it's still fun to grind stats.

 

[Slim]

It doesn't matter. T20Is are useless, only the WC matters. Hoover it's still fun to grind stats.

Yes now that India has lost a match, it doesnt matter again anymore. Predictable.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Currently in t20:
Fakhar=Dhawan
Babar=Rohit
Talat<<<<kohli
Malik<Rahul
Sarfraz=dhoni
Asif Ali>Raina
Faheem=pandya
Shadab=kuldeep/chahal
Hasan>bumrah
Amir>kumar
Usman=umesh yadav

Fakhar and babar in t20 are as good as dhawan and rohit if you look at averages so I put them as equal.
Sarfraz atm is about equal to dhoni imo.
Asif Ali is better than raina as he is more expolosive.
Shadab is equal to kuldeep as shadab was as difficult to pick when he started playing but eventually started to get found out. Same will happen to kuldeep.

Shadab=Kuldeep?

In no format is Sarfaraz equal to Dhoni.

Asif Ali who? How many runs does he have in T20s?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Thankgod, that my fellow Pakistanis are realizing this as well. We tend to underestimate our team and the other side tends to overhype their team all the time.

We are the best t20I team in each and every department hands down.

England comes as second.

You are the best T20 team in each and every department on PP. In real world you are not.

 

[Minnowbasher]

Shadab=Kuldeep?

In no format is Sarfaraz equal to Dhoni.

Asif Ali who? How many runs does he have in T20s?

Sarfraz recently has been doing good and I haven't seen a good performance from dhoni in a while in t20s. Today he was too slow and it cost India the game.
Suresh Raina who? The guy who tries to play ugly swings against short ball? The guy who failed his fitness test and consequently was dropped from indian xi?
Kuldeep will get worked out. England are horrible against spinners yet they still played him well today. When shadab started he also looked unplayable.

 

[Minnowbasher]

You are the best T20 team in each and every department on PP. In real world you are not.

And who decides that. You? I don't refer you being the person that decides rankings. Check on icc page Pakistan is number 1. No need to get salty about it.

 

[Kroll]

You are the best T20 team in each and every department on PP. In real world you are not.

Yeah, but in real world, Pakistan is still no.1. If we all disagree or agree - that's the reality.

 

[nandys]

Didn't i tell you not to bother answering anyone.
Enjoy the answer and with that the laughter.
Now it would be quite helpful to drop this question.

As i stated the the worldcup t20s records are generally more apt in stating who is good as teams play their best side in thess games and are more serious which is not the case in bilaterals and......
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I don't think the h2h records look good for our pakistani friends.

 

[Bubby]

Typical Indians. They never accept defeat do they.

We gleefully accept defeat but to say Rahul is a club level player shows ur understanding of the game.

 

[Bubby]

Despite a bad day for batting our team managed to put a strong fight and coz bowling did step up big time, badly missed bumrah here people taking a shot need to understand this is beginning of the tour and team needs time to acclimatise,doesnt happen overnight.

 

[Slim]

You are the best T20 team in each and every department on PP. In real world you are not.

Even in real world, we are the number 1 T20I team. At least check facts before mouthing off. )

 

[Slim]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Atherton "England and India are 2 good sides going head to head, probably the 2 top One-Day sides in the world but not necessarily the best T20I sides as Pakistan have been quite brilliant for a while now" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvIND</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1015329421375492097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[the_outsider]

And when was the last time India won 14 out of 16 T20 matches and scored 180+ scores in 4 consecutive matches?

India has won 19 of their last 24 matches. Scored 190+, 185+ and then chased down 200+ against Australia in Australia in consecutive games.

You guys live in your own bubble and that why you think everyone else is worse than you, especially India.

In T20WC the h2h is 5-0 in India's favour. And that streak is only 9 years old.

Pakistan is a good LOI side. But your T20 ranking shouldn't be hyped up too much.

 

[ExplicitAI]

India's batting is clearly overall better, they'll show their red hot form in ICC tournaments which is a norm. Pak's batting is not too bad they've got all their bases covered of which India don't, like our middle order is pretty decent whereas India's middle order consists of an ageing Dhoni.

 

[Bubby]

India's batting is clearly overall better, they'll show their red hot form in ICC tournaments which is a norm. Pak's batting is not too bad they've got all their bases covered of which India don't, like our middle order is pretty decent whereas India's middle order consists of an ageing Dhoni.

But it's not that we don't have guys to replace him,.

 

[Dingolfy]

But it's not that we don't have guys to replace him,.

Pant can replace him in T20.

 

[Bubby]

Pant can replace him in T20.

Pant can replace him in Odis too

 

[nandys]

India's batting is clearly overall better, they'll show their red hot form in ICC tournaments which is a norm. Pak's batting is not too bad they've got all their bases covered of which India don't, like our middle order is pretty decent whereas India's middle order consists of an ageing Dhoni.

Given that your middle order consists of sarfraz ahmed and i guess hussain talat, i wouldn't be saying anything even near to what you said.

No matter how much aged Dhoni is. He is still better than any middle order batsmen you have.

So good luck with that.

 

[Syed1]

Certainly some members didn't notice that these t20 are start of a big series and getting players to get access to playing time before the big series didn't come in their minds.

Afterall some teams love to play t20s against minnows and if the other country finally tries to play some t20s against the top teams then they can't stop their insecurity.

Yeah you are right some teams love to play T20s against minnows just like India played two against Ireland a couple of weeks ago.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Given that your middle order consists of sarfraz ahmed and i guess hussain talat, i wouldn't be saying anything even near to what you said.

No matter how much aged Dhoni is. He is still better than any middle order batsmen you have.

So good luck with that.

How? Dhoni was never a force in T20 even when he was at peak of his power in the one dayers. He is a tuk tuker in T20.

 

[TeymurBlake]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Atherton "England and India are 2 good sides going head to head, probably the 2 top One-Day sides in the world but not necessarily the best T20I sides as Pakistan have been quite brilliant for a while now" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvIND</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1015329421375492097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That personally is something we all need to expect, Pakistan is No.1 in T20I today FACT. They can only beat what's in front of them and aren't perfect by any means especially if you look at the loss to Australia a couple of days ago. With that being said we have done extremely well for ourselves and should look at ranking with pride as we have been brilliant in the last couple of games.

 

[Minnowbasher]

We gleefully accept defeat but to say Rahul is a club level player shows ur understanding of the game.

And when did i say that?

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

When we're number 1 the ranking does not matter, when we've won 85+% of our games that's because we've been playing against minnows, all our players are inferior to Indians because something something & something.....

Aur kuch ??

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Atherton "England and India are 2 good sides going head to head, probably the 2 top One-Day sides in the world but not necessarily the best T20I sides as Pakistan have been quite brilliant for a while now" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvIND</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1015329421375492097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Looks like Atherton has joined the dark side after all

Good that we are getting recognition and being brought up even when we aren't playing in the series.

 

[kuskash]

When we're number 1 the ranking does not matter, when we've won 85+% of our games that's because we've been playing against minnows, all our players are inferior to Indians because something something & something.....

Aur kuch ??

No, Pakistan is the no. 1 in T20s and thats the reality, no shame in accepting it. They did very well whoever the opposition on schedule and that is the fact.

 

[Cozyrensetter]

Currently in t20:
Fakhar=Dhawan
Babar=Rohit
Talat<<<<kohli
Malik<Rahul
Sarfraz=dhoni
Asif Ali>Raina
Faheem=pandya
Shadab=kuldeep/chahal
Hasan>bumrah
Amir>kumar
Usman=umesh yadav

Fakhar and babar in t20 are as good as dhawan and rohit if you look at averages so I put them as equal.
Sarfraz atm is about equal to dhoni imo.
Asif Ali is better than raina as he is more expolosive.
Shadab is equal to kuldeep as shadab was as difficult to pick when he started playing but eventually started to get found out. Same will happen to kuldeep.

What nonsense.Shadab is no match for Kuldep.Hasan >Bumrah You must be joking.Bumrah can bowl pinpoint yorkers over after over.No name Asif Ali is equal to Raina who is a proven Matchwinner.
This Pakistan team is overreliant on Fakhar for a good score.

 

[Duckworth Lewis]

Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli are much more reliable than Fakhar, Harris, Babar

 

[Balthazar]

I feel Pakistan has the upper hand if the discussion is only about current players. This is a lowest point for Indian cricket.

But India has much better talents in the domestics.

 

[nandys]

Yeah you are right some teams love to play T20s against minnows just like India played two against Ireland a couple of weeks ago.

Good finally you have got a reason to say something. I guess you don't know the number of t20s you played against minnows . And just because of your insecurity you have started howling now that india played t20s against a minnow team.

All those t20s against scotland and a west indies c team really makes the so called no 1 team invincible.

 

[nandys]

How? Dhoni was never a force in T20 even when he was at peak of his power in the one dayers. He is a tuk tuker in T20.

In t20s generally he comes 5 or 4 down and comes when 2 or 3 overs left. You can't expect any batsmen to hit from first ball.
Ofcourse unless you are talking about the legendary......
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...Afridi(the bust)

 

[Usman Chadda]

What nonsense.Shadab is no match for Kuldep.Hasan >Bumrah You must be joking.Bumrah can bowl pinpoint yorkers over after over.No name Asif Ali is equal to Raina who is a proven Matchwinner.
This Pakistan team is overreliant on Fakhar for a good score.

Shadab is a much better batter and fielder than Kuldeep, while Kuldeep is a slightly better bowler

Hasan is a strike bowler while Bumrah is more of a containment option

Raina has regressed immensely, even with all that experience. No comparison with Asif, since the latter hasnt even played ten international matches

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sarfraz recently has been doing good and I haven't seen a good performance from dhoni in a while in t20s. Today he was too slow and it cost India the game.
Suresh Raina who? The guy who tries to play ugly swings against short ball? The guy who failed his fitness test and consequently was dropped from indian xi?
Kuldeep will get worked out. England are horrible against spinners yet they still played him well today. When shadab started he also looked unplayable.

Sarfaraz isnt even half the batsman Dhoni is even today. Dhoni had the 2nd best SR for the team today.

Asif Ali lol. Not even 150 runs lol. Try better.

Let Kuldeep get worked out. Then we will see. Shadab is not evrn close.

 

[Lefthanded]

Are you saying Dhoni and Sarfraz are equally good? Surely you're joking.

Malik might actually edge out Raina. I can agree with that.

Oh God no. I should've been clearer.

Dhoni is a legend, and Sarfraz is just a chubster who has anger management issues. Sarfraz might coast in a Pakistani T20 team, but all-round he belongs in an associate side.

 

[Mr.Q]

Obviously India’s batting is better. The Indian batting lineup is composed of pretty much the same set of batsmen for ODIs and T20s. Our top order is the best in the world and is well ahead of Pakistan’s. Pakistan has some young batsmen in their team now. Most of them (except Babar) are pinch hitters. Pinch hitting works in T20s and they bat deep. So while the considerable difference in skill/talent is still there, in terms of effectiveness the gap isn’t as big as many people think it is in T20s.

 

[big_gamer007]

Raina needs to retire and enjoy life now.. Focus on his academy and groom youngsters..

We need to get youngsters in T20, Dhoni should retire as well from T20.

T20 is a place to groom youngsters unfortunately we seem to be playing people who are past it and have don’t everything there is to do.

 

[ExplicitAI]

Given that your middle order consists of sarfraz ahmed and i guess hussain talat, i wouldn't be saying anything even near to what you said.

No matter how much aged Dhoni is. He is still better than any middle order batsmen you have.

So good luck with that.

Sarfraz and Dhoni are two completely different types of batsman with a different style of play, honestly speaking we haven't got a near perfect team combination but at the moment we're doing decent.

 

[nandys]

Sarfraz and Dhoni are two completely different types of batsman with a different style of play, honestly speaking we haven't got a near perfect team combination but at the moment we're doing decent.

Good that you acknowledge both are different.
And simply the fact that one has given many memorable finishes, performances, and has been able to give his country a world cup while the other doesn't nearly any memorable performance, yet, in this full cricketing history, from t20s to tests, and then saying that this guy is better than the other guy and also claiming that pakistan has a settled middle order with sarfrazas the moddle order batsman should be a blasphemy, don't you think so?

Indian middle order consisting of raina, dhoni is among one of the best, that is why they have been able to sustain around top in the odi rankings for, i guess, years now.

 

[Abdullah719]

Tired of removing rubbish posts from this thread.

More of the same nonsense and it will be a ban.

Stick to the topic.

 

[ExplicitAI]

Good that you acknowledge both are different.
And simply the fact that one has given many memorable finishes, performances, and has been able to give his country a world cup while the other doesn't nearly any memorable performance, yet, in this full cricketing history, from t20s to tests, and then saying that this guy is better than the other guy and also claiming that pakistan has a settled middle order with sarfrazas the moddle order batsman should be a blasphemy, don't you think so?

Indian middle order consisting of raina, dhoni is among one of the best, that is why they have been able to sustain around top in the odi rankings for, i guess, years now.

When I said both of them are different I'm simply talking about the way they bat. Dhoni has always been the type to play unorthodox shots and just simply smash the leather out of the ball. Sarfraz is a much shorter player who relies on cheeky shots to score his runs, tends to sweep balls more but has recently worked on his six hitting shots such as the slog sweep (he's practiced it in the English domestic T20 tournament), don't really get why people are comparing the two since they're both wicket keepers and have also won ICC trophies.

 

[nandys]

When I said both of them are different I'm simply talking about the way they bat. Dhoni has always been the type to play unorthodox shots and just simply smash the leather out of the ball. Sarfraz is a much shorter player who relies on cheeky shots to score his runs, tends to sweep balls more but has recently worked on his six hitting shots such as the slog sweep (he's practiced it in the English domestic T20 tournament), don't really get why people are comparing the two since they're both wicket keepers and have also won ICC trophies.

Well i am happy for you that you have finally found a worldclass keeper.
Good for you.

 

[ExplicitAI]

Well i am happy for you that you have finally found a worldclass keeper.
Good for you.

Same way I feel about Dhoni

 

[nandys]

Same way I feel about Dhoni

Good then.

 

[Slim]

If someone still thinks that Indian batting is better than Pakistani batting then may Allah help them get cured off their delusions and clear away the malice and jealousy from their hearts.

Like i said, our real competition is England.

Pakistani team number 1 in each and every department. Cannot get better than this. What a team! akistan:

Breaking records every day. :

 

[Slim]

Obviously India’s batting is better. The Indian batting lineup is composed of pretty much the same set of batsmen for ODIs and T20s. Our top order is the best in the world and is well ahead of Pakistan’s. Pakistan has some young batsmen in their team now. Most of them (except Babar) are pinch hitters. Pinch hitting works in T20s and they bat deep. So while the considerable difference in skill/talent is still there, in terms of effectiveness the gap isn’t as big as many people think it is in T20s.

Indian fans are living in the past with havebeens like Raina, Rohit and Dhoni in their squad. Over reliance on Kohli is another factor too.

However, in reality, the overhyping of Indian fans brings so much criticism to their team. Otherwise, i think they are a fairly above average side; right below Pakistan, England, Australia, SA.

 

[OneTip-OneHand]

If someone still thinks that Indian batting is better than Pakistani batting then may Allah help them get cured off their delusions and clear away the malice and jealousy from their hearts.

Like i said, our real competition is England.

Pakistani team number 1 in each and every department. Cannot get better than this. What a team! akistan:

Breaking records every day. :

Such hyperbole!!! When your entire batting heavily depends on one batsman. It’s either Fakhar or nothing. If you think Pakistani batting is better than Indian batting then may Jai Shri Ram help you get cured off your delusions.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This Indian batting is overhyped. Depends too much on Kohli in crunch games.

 

[Slim]

Such hyperbole!!! When your entire batting heavily depends on one batsman. It’s either Fakhar or nothing. If you think Pakistani batting is better than Indian batting then may Jai Shri Ram help you get cured off your delusions.

Hahaha, you lot still living in your delusional word? Batting depending on one batsman, who knows that better than Indians. First Tendulkar and now Kohli.

I dont have to live in an alternate world, the facts are for all to see. The number 1 T20I team. :

 

[Slim]

This Indian batting is overhyped. Depends too much on Kohli in crunch games.

Need more people like you.

Hoping to see a comment from the bhaijan on this topic. [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION]

 

[Tyler Durden]

If someone still thinks that Indian batting is better than Pakistani batting then may Allah help them get cured off their delusions and clear away the malice and jealousy from their hearts.

Like i said, our real competition is England.

Pakistani team number 1 in each and every department. Cannot get better than this. What a team! akistan:

Breaking records every day. :

Hold your horses! If not for Fakhar today, this Pak would have crumbled in pressure like how they lost 2 wickets in the 1st over. Yes! Fakhar is the only player who's a match-winner in this Pak lineup and all others are passengers. Shoib is gonna retire in few months and I don't see any other senior taking responsibility in his place. The new comers? Talats and Farhans and Haris Sohails in the top 3? well I saw enough of them already and they look like complete club level batsmen trying with no foot movement and terrible technique. No comparision with Indian couterparts!

 

[Sidilicious]

Wow! Must confess, this Fakhar chap is brilliant.

In T20Is, will now put the Pakistan batting better than Indian batting.
In T20Is, Indian batting < Pakistan Batting
They have more explosive guys, which the Indians dont.

Though,
In ODIs, Indian batting > Pakistan BAtting
In Tests, Indian Batting >> Pakistan Batting

 

[Sidilicious]

Hold your horses! If not for Fakhar today, this Pak would have crumbled in pressure like how they lost 2 wickets in the 1st over. Yes! Fakhar is the only player who's a match-winner in this Pak lineup and all others are passengers. Shoib is gonna retire in few months and I don't see any other taking responsibility in his place. The new comers? Talats and Farhans and Haris Sohails in the top 3? well I saw enough of them already and they look like complete club level batsmen trying with no foot moment and terrible technique. No comparision with Indian couterparts!

But they didnt. Fakhar played one hell of an innings.

Couldn't you say the same for India. If top 3 doesnt score in ODIs, we will hardly get to 200. But that doesnt make the Indian batting poor. The top 3 are the reason for a formidable Indian batting.

So Fakhar is a big reason for the formidable Pakistan T20I batting.

 

[OneTip-OneHand]

Hahaha, you lot still living in your delusional word? Batting depending on one batsman, who knows that better than Indians. First Tendulkar and now Kohli.

I dont have to live in an alternate world, the facts are for all to see. The number 1 T20I team. :

Hahaha. You got me. Hahaha

By the way arguement changed to rankings from better batting discussion.

And congratulations on beating Australia
(Even if we don’t know who D Arcy Short, Stoinis, Alex Carey, Ashton agar, Wildermuth, Jhye Richardson are)

A win is a win. Hahaha

 

[Slim]

Wow! Must confess, this Fakhar chap is brilliant.

In T20Is, will now put the Pakistan batting better than Indian batting.
In T20Is, Indian batting < Pakistan Batting
They have more explosive guys, which the Indians dont.

Though,
In ODIs, Indian batting > Pakistan BAtting
In Tests, Indian Batting >> Pakistan Batting

I agree!

In tests especially and ODIs, Indian batting is far more experienced and thus better in terms of quantity and quality. We have the likes of Azhar and Shafiq in tests who are duds as compared to YK, MOYO. We have a lot to improve in tests and in ODIs we are almost there.

 

[Darkrai]

Indians do over-hype their batting but for a good reason-their batting is superb. Our batting is finally getting better but we still got a long way to go before we can compare it with Eng and Ind.