Current Pakistan Test bowling vs Indian Test bowling of 1990s

[Mamoon]

Srinath is massively underrated on this forum and in general as well. At home it was because of Kumble, but his career also coincided with fast bowlers like McGrath, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Donald, Pollock, Ambrose, Walsh etc.

 

[Hyperion66]

Srinath was a brilliant bowler. He got overshadowed because Kumble was the king at home. In the last phase of his career, he was overshadowed by the emergence of Zaheer Khan. If Shaheen can replicate him and take 500+ international wickets at an average of 29-30, he will become a Pakistan legend and the best Pakistani fast bowler after Imran, Wasim and Waqar.

Thanks for the input. I heard he was very fast during his initial years, probably his stat would look very different if he had a decent partner, we made him a workhorse. Same happened with Kapil and Zaheer as well, I really think they were much better bowler than their stats.

 

[Hyperion66]

Srinath’s new ball ability was very good..massively underrated because he doesn’t sell himself to media.

I agree 100%. Gave his all for the team. No nonsense, zero drama. He is underrated even in India I feel.

 

[Rightarmfast]

Srinath is massively underrated on this forum and in general as well. At home it was because of Kumble, but his career also coincided with fast bowlers like McGrath, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Donald, Pollock, Ambrose, Walsh etc.

Srinath was incredible. Unlucky that his career coincided with Wasim and waqar, Walsh and Ambrose, Pollock and Donald, Mcgrath, Gillespie, Gough and a few more. He was a tremendous new ball bowler, and bowled at very high pace. If playing today, he'd easily be one of the worlds best bowlers.

 

[Bhaijaan]

When I think of Srinath, certainly many great visuals hit my mind straight away. After Sachin, if anyone in that 1990s Indian team have his 101% for the team, it was Srinath and slightly ahead of Anil bhai who was a champion too but Srinath was a work horse who should have gotten his wickets at a much much better bowling average if he bowled in an all round world class bowling line up.

His bowling average if 28 but he was definitely a 24-25 average level bowler

The 13 wicket haul against Pakistan in Eden Gardens test was special.

He was deceptively quick, many times he bowed quicker than opposition bowlers..

 

[Ab Fan]

In 90s, India had Srinath, Kumble, Prasad and kuruville.

Srinath was pretty good but bowled a tad too short overseas and as a result leaked runs away from home.

Kumble in 90s was basically what Ashwin was in 10s.

Prasad was mostly average but he won us a world cup match vs Pakistan in 1999 by taking a 5-fer against them.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, Srinath was India's only saving grace in fast bowling department in the 1990s

Prasad, Agarkar emerged by late 1990s and they were ok.

 

[Shoaib88]

In 90s, India had Srinath, Kumble, Prasad and kuruville.

Srinath was pretty good but bowled a tad too short overseas and as a result leaked runs away from home.

Kumble in 90s was basically what Ashwin was in 10s.

Prasad was mostly average but he won us a world cup match vs Pakistan in 1999 by taking a 5-fer against them.

Who's Kuruville?

 

[Hitman]

Who's Kuruville?

Abey Kuruvilla. A hopeless trundler.

 

[Hitman]

Lol, like I mentioned before, I am not 15 year old. I was joking with that comment.

So how old are you really?

 

[Shoaib88]

Abey Kuruvilla. A hopeless trundler.

)

 

[Birdman]

We also had fixer Manoj Prabakar. Indians would bowl well in SENA countries, but. Was out batting and fielding that would let us down,

 

[Hitman]

We also had fixer Manoj Prabakar. Indians would bowl well in SENA countries, but. Was out batting and fielding that would let us down,

I still ROFL watching highlights of that trundler getting destroyed by Jayasuriya in the 1996 WC match. It was so severe that he had to start bowling spin later on to avoid himself from embarrassment )

Sachin scored such a masterful innings of 137 at a run a ball batting first, all of that was wasted by the bowlers.

 

[pillionrider]

Srinath was amazing in the latter half of his career. The first half was inconsistent. He also has/had a attitude that hasn't endeared him to media or people in general. I forget which tour, think the 2003 WC, but apparently Javagal was miffed with the selector's who'd dropped him and he refused to make himself available for selection even though Ganguly was keen on him. Eventually, Sourav - or so the story goes - who was in Bengaluru at the time traveled to Mysore, met him in person and convinced him to join the team.

He's also a distant relative on mother's side and lived in my apartment when I was a kid for a few years. Would sometimes drop me to school whenever he decided to go to the bank where he worked during off-season. I'd try to take my time getting out of the car so that as many kids entering through the gates would notice who I was with

 

[Hitman]

Srinath was amazing in the latter half of his career. The first half was inconsistent. He also has/had a attitude that hasn't endeared him to media or people in general. I forget which tour, think the 2003 WC, but apparently Javagal was miffed with the selector's who'd dropped him and he refused to make himself available for selection even though Ganguly was keen on him. Eventually, Sourav - or so the story goes - who was in Bengaluru at the time traveled to Mysore, met him in person and convinced him to join the team.

He's also a distant relative on mother's side and lived in my apartment when I was a kid for a few years. Would sometimes drop me to school whenever he decided to go to the bank where he worked during off-season. I'd try to take my time getting out of the car so that as many kids entering through the gates would notice who I was with

Wow, amazing. You you still keep in touch with him?

 

[pillionrider]

We also had fixer Manoj Prabakar.

Sure you got the right guy?

Prabhakar offered gentle swing that was sometimes useful. Good batting abilities too. Didn't he have a good tour of Pakistan once?

 

[Sir Alex]

Prabhakar was a decent all-rounder for his time. He should never have been the opening bowler. Used to open batting as well.

 

[pillionrider]

Wow, amazing. You you still keep in touch with him?

No not really. It was more like, he'd see me standing at the busstop and drop me sort of thing.

He was a chill guy in person and heavy smoker.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Wonder how many Pakistani posters here would prefer the Bharatiya bowling unit of 1990s over their current bowling team.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Javagal Srinath vs Shaheen Shah Afridi
Venkateshwar Prasad vs Naseem Shah
Ajit Agarkar vs Haris Rauf
Anil Kumble vs Shadab Khan
Robin Singh vs Imad Wasim

 

[kron]

This present Pakistani bowling attack (Test only) is shockingly bad. It was not this bad 2 years ago. Indian attack in 90's was probably better than this.

Pakistan haven't been able to replace Amir and Wahab. Musa seems ordinary. Naseem has potential but he is currently a work in progress.

Don't know about that man.
Indian attack was pathetic in 90s. Worst bowling attack.

 

[kron]

Javagal Srinath vs Shaheen Shah Afridi
Venkateshwar Prasad vs Naseem Shah
Ajit Agarkar vs Haris Rauf
Anil Kumble vs Shadab Khan
Robin Singh vs Imad Wasim

That's not the attack for tests bro. If that's the case then yes Indian one is better.

But mohanty and co if they played then I would rather have current Pakistan attack lol

 

[kron]

Srinath was a brilliant bowler. He got overshadowed because Kumble was the king at home. In the last phase of his career, he was overshadowed by the emergence of Zaheer Khan. If Shaheen can replicate him and take 500+ international wickets at an average of 29-30, he will become a Pakistan legend and the best Pakistani fast bowler after Imran, Wasim and Waqar.

If srinath had someone like bumrah to support him then his stats would be way better. Or say a wasim or waqar hypothetically.

He would average around 25.

 

[captain.hansolo]

That's not the attack for tests bro. If that's the case then yes Indian one is better.

But mohanty and co if they played then I would rather have current Pakistan attack lol

Mohanty was in the ODI attack for a brief period and he rode on the back of his swing bowling exploits against Pakistan in canada. For a brief while him and another dude offered a glimpse of a swing bowling attack worthy of respect… and throw in Prasad’s variation and Srinath’s pace and bounce, it seemed like things were on the up and up. But then if you look closely, Srinath was critically injured in the 90s and we had to try fellas like Kuruvilla and Johnson and Mohanty and Doda Ganesh… of which only Kuruvilla was half decent.

Prasad was not very effective on dead pitches thst were batsman friend.

Same with Mohanty, and the Johnson and Ganesh experiments ended early. Thankfully.

Then we found Agarkar who was very promising and save for a few test performances in the 2000s in Australia he too fell off the way side.

Our bowling in the 90s was pretty much spin centric. Post a decent total, scuff up the ball early and then Kumble bamboozle the opposition. It worked 1 in 3 times. Which is why our test record is shoddy in the 90s except when playing at home.

 

[sweep_shot]

Don't know about that man.
Indian attack was pathetic in 90s. Worst bowling attack.

That post was from 5 years ago.

 

[kron]

They averaged 38. In the last 2 years, this Pakistani unit has been averaging 50+.

Indian batting was crap too in 90s away from home. We mention bowlers hut batsmen couldn't face bounce above hip length or movement. They are just as bad.

Maybe if they could actually hold a bat vs pace and bounce Indian bowlers may have done the job better with the ball too in 90s.

 

[kron]

That post was from 5 years ago.

I only saw it now. Lol

 

[kron]

Mohanty was in the ODI attack for a brief period and he rode on the back of his swing bowling exploits against Pakistan in canada. For a brief while him and another dude offered a glimpse of a swing bowling attack worthy of respect… and throw in Prasad’s variation and Srinath’s pace and bounce, it seemed like things were on the up and up. But then if you look closely, Srinath was critically injured in the 90s and we had to try fellas like Kuruvilla and Johnson and Mohanty and Doda Ganesh… of which only Kuruvilla was half decent.

Prasad was not very effective on dead pitches thst were batsman friend.

Same with Mohanty, and the Johnson and Ganesh experiments ended early. Thankfully.

Then we found Agarkar who was very promising and save for a few test performances in the 2000s in Australia he too fell off the way side.

Our bowling in the 90s was pretty much spin centric. Post a decent total, scuff up the ball early and then Kumble bamboozle the opposition. It worked 1 in 3 times. Which is why our test record is shoddy in the 90s except when playing at home.

Oh God. Dodda and Johnson.

Johnson had pace but so erratic.

Terrible skills.